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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Panzzer on February 15, 2006, 03:58:46 PM
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The first games have been kinda disappointing. Well, Finland won Switzerland 5-0, but the games haven't been that good - yet. The best one I've seen this far is the Latvia-USA, that was fun & exciting to watch (well, I'm still watching it, but I don't know if this is live or not -- edit: the third period hasn't been as much fun as the first two). But I'm expecting the tempo to go up (and to see more checks) when the games get tougher...
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USA vs. Latvia was a tie 3-3. :cry
Its so much slower then the new NHL. As cool watching Ovechkin and Afiniganov play on the same line.
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I just watched a collage of the Slovakia-Russia game (5-3). Man, did they score beautiful goals in that one! Not much to see in the defensive play in that game, though. But they (both teams) have skill in their power plays.
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Drury could of made a good goal in the 3rd if wasnt for the hooking.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
USA vs. Latvia was a tie 3-3. :cry
Its so much slower then the new NHL. As cool watching Ovechkin and Afiniganov play on the same line.
Jeebus, I thought letting the Italians have two goals was bad. :confused:
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I'm with ya on that...the games so far have been somewhat dull. I think they will get more exciting as we get further into it.
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best thing I've seen so far was men's downhill and men's half pipe
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Now that I think of it. Out of the tons of hours of all the events Ive watched so far. its been pretty dull. Mens halfpipe and luge have been best so far.
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Downhill and hockey has been fun to watch.
Half pipe is dull no matter who is doing it. Same goes for moguls... BOORING.
Figure skating is dull, but the women are enjoyable to watch (for obvious reasons).
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Originally posted by Sandman
Figure skating is dull, but the women are enjoyable to watch (for obvious reasons).
why am I thinking you're the kind 'o guy who'd like synchronized swimming?:O
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I liked the moguls, fast-paced and it was quite easy to understand the score count (compared to half-pipe). I haven't seen any of the figure skaters as yet (but there's a young woman from my home town competing in there). :)
Uh, this thread was about the ice hockey... I'm still betting my euros on Canada.
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Figure skating was on here yesterday. Wasnt very impressive. Alot of falls.
Ive found curling to be imensely boring but extremly addicting to watch.
Im gona bet my money on Canda to win both gold in Mens and Womens. U.S. will take silver in both.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Ive found curling to be imensely boring but extremly addicting to watch.
Pool, combined with chess... on ice. It is addicting to watch. :)
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
why am I thinking you're the kind 'o guy who'd like synchronized swimming?:O
Two words: Estella Warren.
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The opening round robin matchups are lousy... the NHL players are all tired, as they had games on the weekend then hopped on a plane to Turin, 6-9 timezones away, and you've got good teams playing chumps. The later round robin games will be better, players getting used to eachother, etc... Canada vs. CZE will be one to watch for sure. Czech's are gonna get destroyed, tho. The elimination round will be great. I look forward to watching Canada stomp Sweden in the gold medal game :aok
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Figure skating was on here yesterday. Wasnt very impressive. Alot of falls.
Ive found curling to be imensely boring but extremly addicting to watch.
Im gona bet my money on Canda to win both gold in Mens and Womens. U.S. will take silver in both.
Yeah, we always win curling. I find it addictive as well... I've been trying to understand all the stuff they yell while sweeping since 1998. "HARRR HARRRR YARRRR WAIT YARRRRRRRRRRR"
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Originally posted by wetrat
Yeah, we always win curling. I find it addictive as well... I've been trying to understand all the stuff they yell while sweeping since 1998. "HARRR HARRRR YARRRR WAIT YARRRRRRRRRRR"
I think they try to be pirates.
The Czech Republic is screwed goalie wise. Hasek is out with a hamstring injury. :aok
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
The Czech Republic is screwed goalie wise. Hasek is out with a hamstring injury. :aok
Hasek is overrated.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
I think they try to be pirates.
The Czech Republic is screwed goalie wise. Hasek is out with a hamstring injury. :aok
Vokoun is better anyway... they'll be fine.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Hasek is overrated.
he is now. Hes to old. Not toention hes a salamander.
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Originally posted by Panzzer
The first games have been kinda disappointing. Well, Finland won Switzerland 5-0, ..
5 of my Dallas Stars are going to bring you guys a medal home:D
btw, anyone know what channel Team USA is going to be on??:huh
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medals will go like this:
gold: Canada
silver: Sweden
bronze: Russia
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Originally posted by Slash27
btw, anyone know what channel Team USA is going to be on??:huh
1500 EST On USA (Live)
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
1500 EST On USA (Live)
:aok
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If you watch CNBC they will show what time and what channels events will be shown on tv every once in awhile.
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Curling has a nude calendar.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
he is now. Hes to old. Not toention hes a salamander.
it's so true :lol
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
he is now. Hes to old. Not toention hes a salamander.
Not to mention*
Hockey game today! USA!
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For the first time in years I see Russian team PLAYING and not simply skating slowly for fun.
For first time in history they skrewed up the first game at Olympics, but I hope they will at last do their best. In Italy we have enough Russian and xUSSR fans, unlike 2002 when it looked like Russians were not allowed to play against their NHL masters.
And last year we had a beautiful championship, really worth watching. We also won European Series and Dynamo Msk won Euro club championship.
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Wooo U.S. wins over Kazakhstan 4-1.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
USA vs. Latvia was a tie 3-3. :cry
Its so much slower then the new NHL. As cool watching Ovechkin and Afiniganov play on the same line.
Finally got a chance to watch the game. Rather pathetic showing by the USA team. There are just two NHL players on the Latvia team while all of the USA team plays for the NHL.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Finally got a chance to watch the game. Rather pathetic showing by the USA team. There are just two NHL players on the Latvia team while all of the USA team plays for the NHL.
But you do have to factor in that all but three players arrived the day before.
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USA Womens just lost to Sweden 3 to 2 in a shootout. :confused:
Well done Sweden.
Go Canada!!!!
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Go Canada!!!!
CA-CH 0:2
:rolleyes:
RU-KZ 1:0
:rolleyes:
BTW, this time we have three Russian teams in Olympic hockey.
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Congratulations Suisse!
Looks like quite a few teams have a shot in this tournament.
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USA just lost 2 to 1.
Looks like one of the Russias' will win the gold this year.
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Jarkko Ruutu is an IDIOT! The coach of the Finnish ice hockey team (Westerlund) is an idiot (for choosing Ruutu in the team)! stunninghunks!
I'm watching the Cze-Fin -game right now, those idiots are ruining the game for me...
Oh... Go Switzerland!!!
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Ha! Finland leads 2-1. :)
Wtg Lehtinen!
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Jere Lehtinen rules!
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... Selanne scores! :)
edit: Lehtinen ... scooooorees! !!! :aok
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Ha! WTG Finland! (Cze-Fin 2-4)
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
USA just lost 2 to 1.
Looks like one of the Russias' will win the gold this year.
Yeah we lost but that was one heck of a game.
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USA just lost to Slovakia... WTG Slovakia! (Sorry, I was watching the Cze-Fin -game which Finland won!). (what SA2 was saying)...
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Originally posted by wasq
Jere Lehtinen rules!
Something we've known around here for years:D
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Figure skating was on here yesterday. Wasnt very impressive. Alot of falls.
A lot of falls??! Damn I missed it. What are you talking about? Falls are THE best part of figure skating. :D
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There was no blood or face plants. Not impressive.
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My view of the hockey tournament so far..
Best games so far...
Russia-Slovakia
Canada-Switzerland
Canada-Finland
Most impressive teams so far (not in a ranking order)..
Slovakia
Russia
Finland
Switzerland
Most disapointing teams so far (not in a ranking order)..
Canada
Czech Rep
Sweden
Jarku Ruuttu should have been banned from the entire olympic games.
Tex
Ps. Best hockey accomplishment so far... Swedens win over US in the womens semi final. Ds.
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Originally posted by TexMurphy
Most disapointing teams so far (not in a ranking order)..
Canada
It boggles my mind. I mean our checking line is Joe Thornton, Kris Draper and Shane Doan.
In thier defence, Gerber had the game of his life. But against the Finns....if they played all three periods like they did in the second they probably would have won. Hell if the game was decided by the high-light reel they would have won, so absolutely beautiful plays...that they couldn't capitalize on. But man, did they look like crap in the first.
PS: Something I noticed during the Fin game. During the powerpls the right defenceman let the puck out of the Fin zone no less then three times. I know McCabe was responsible for at least one of those...heartbreaking.
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Canada made it quite easy for the finish goalie (hate spelling his name).
Sure canada played at a fantastic pace and had tons of shots but there where no one timers, no deflections just straight on shots.
Sure playing crash the net and scoope for rebounds is a good way to up the pace and create scooring chances. But you need to set up the onetimers and to deflect the shots when you have men infront of the net. If you dont do that it becomes too predictable and relativly easy for the goalie.
Also its painfull to watch Chris Pronger on big ice. He is sooo slow its painfull he looked like a cone on the ice.
Tex.
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...I just plain don't want to talk about Pronger. :o
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WTG Team Finland! And too bad for my American friends here. :p
Fin-USA 4-3.
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:mad: :furious :t :D
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Only 4:3?!
From what I saw - Finns had to tear Americans into a Union Jack.
I am going home now, to see the last period of Russia-Canada. If I'll see the whole game - I'll have a heart attack.
Is there a possibility for Finns and Slovaks to meet before final? They are definetly two best teams at the Olympics.
BTW, is it true that Finnish team consists only of NHL players? I have heard on Russian TV that the only player from Finnish league is a third goalkeeper from Karpat (BTW, a funny name for a Finnish team),
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Here are the non-NHL players:
3 Petteri Nummelin, Lugano SUI
25 Jukka Hentunen, Lugano SUI
30 Fredrik Norrena, Linköping SWE
32 Niklas Bäckström, Kärpät
77 Antti-Jussi Niemi, Frölunda SWE
Only Bäckström is from Finnish league (Oulun Kärpät), so the Russian TV is correct in that sense.
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Originally posted by Boroda
I am going home now, to see the last period of Russia-Canada. If I'll see the whole game - I'll have a heart attack.
Same here, I'm just going to check the score from time to time.
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Screw the hockey, Im watching curling :aok
BTW, there was nothing wrong with Ruutu's check, it was a hands down check and Jagr put his head down just before the impact, also I wonder why he is using that JOFA relic from the 80's.
Jarkko :aok
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Curling situation is looking pretty good at the moment :)
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Congratulations Russia, certainly the better team won. :aok
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Congrats Russia.
Rematch in 4 years.
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What a huge refering mistake....
Canada should have had the equalizer... it hit the back of the net and went back in under the keeper BEFORE the ref blew the whistle....
But then... said it before... Pronger.... he might as well retire.. but so can AT LEAST 30% of the defenders in the NHL...
We are going to see a HUUUUGE shift in defenders over the next two three years... to smaller and faster defenders...
Tex
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Originally posted by TexMurphy
Canada should have had the equalizer... it hit the back of the net and went back in under the keeper BEFORE the ref blew the whistle....
I couldn't tell, would love to see/hear the video.
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Showed it on TV here several times from several angles.
It was a hard shot that went in and bounced out very quickly. It bounced back in under the goalie. Wasnt a issue of just cutting the puck bounced of the back of the crease.
Tex
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Originally posted by TexMurphy
Showed it on TV here several times from several angles.
It was a hard shot that went in and bounced out very quickly. It bounced back in under the goalie. Wasnt a issue of just cutting the puck bounced of the back of the crease.
Tex
Yeah, clearly saw the puck go it, but was it before or after the whistle?
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I saw Bettman on the Olympics the other day. FWIW, I think he's wrong.
Bringing the NHL to the Olympics hasn't helped hockey and it certainly hasn't helped the NHL.
I think it's high time we let the "amateurs" play again or at the very least, keep the major leagues out.
It's just not worth it. Off the top of your head without doing any research can you name the three teams that medaled in 2002? How about 1998? Every hockey fan I know can tell you where they were when the U.S. won the gold in 1980, but will be hard pressed to remember what has happened since.
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Originally posted by Sandman
It's just not worth it. Off the top of your head without doing any research can you name the three teams that medaled in 2002?
Nope, just gold and silver. But that was the only game that counted. As far as helping hockey, I don't know. But our win in Salt Lake city was massive, I mean truely massive here. It brought our country together like nothing in my lifetime. Heck maybe like nothing since the Canada/Soviet Hockey Summit in '72.
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@Subject of Canadas goal.
The whistle came when Nabokov was on the ice. The puck went under him in and out which and hence the puck was in the net before the whistle.
I mean you cant really blame anyone no one saw it not even the players.
@Subject of NHL and Olympics
The biggest problem with hockey on a global level is that NHL is a bunch of arrogant arses and think they are above the international ice hockey federation.
Due to this ice hockey doesnt have a world championship where the best players compete against each other. Its a scandal in it self. Every sport worth the name has a world championship where the best athletes compete against each other. Soccer, Athletics, Alpine sports, Basketball, Rugby, you freekin name it.
But not hockey.
This is the biggest problem hockey has when it comes to spreading the sport.
Currently the Olympics is the only championship where the best players face of against each other for their nation. Dont give me the crap about the NHL propaganda tournament called World Cup where Canadian refs referee games between Canada and the Czech Rep. Where everything is setup to create Canada vs US finals.
If the World Championships would have involved the best players then the NHL could have stayed out of the olympics. But now, no way.
Imho what hockey as a global sport needs is for the NHL to become part of the IIHF and have the following tournament schedule.
World Championships every 4 years, between olympic years.
Olympics every 4 years.
World Junior Championships every year.
Tex
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"Due to this ice hockey doesnt have a world championship where the best players compete against each other."
Yes it does..
http://www.iihf.com/archive/archive.htm
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Those who lost just didn't want to win as much as the other teams. You can't just assume you are going to win because you come from a good league, you still need to work your bellybutton off.
Case and Point, US Basketball team 2004 Olympics.
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Originally posted by TexMurphy
This is the biggest problem hockey has when it comes to spreading the sport.
Tex
I'm trying to figure out why the sport needs to be spread.
From what I can see, market share has absolutely zero to do with the quality of the games played.
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Originally posted by Panzzer
WTG Team Finland! And too bad for my American friends here. :p
Fin-USA 4-3.
Congrats !
I missed it, work sucks.
It sounds like it was a good game though.
btw 5 of the Dallas Stars ar Fins.
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Russia-Canada game with US judge. WTFG. I love olympics. And I still can't understand why Canada Cup stayed in Canada in 1981.
Unfortunately, in semi-final Russia meets Finland. It means that we'll get bronze again :(
I bet ten to one on Finland :(
But OTOH I already said that Slovaks will win over CZ.
If our team will win - i think that Msk will simply blow up. Kaboom.
After 1999 world championship in Leningrad... Well... That time Russian team was #13. Slogan was "Pack up and go back to your America!". Now we have a TEAM. Not only a gang of North American stars.
When I was a kid we all waned to be like Kharlamov. Or as Tretyak. Kharlamov-Petrov-Mikhailov, Fetisov-Larionov-Krutov - Real Men.
Nice to hear "Ros-Si-Ya!" and good old "Shai-Bu! Shai-Bu!" from Russian fans in Italy.
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In some countries the olympics are like bigger than saturday morning cartoons. Seriously, I'm not exaggerating.
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Originally posted by Suave
In some countries the olympics are like bigger than saturday morning cartoons. Seriously, I'm not exaggerating.
You see, we don't make tanks any more, so we need a substitute :D
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YIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIHAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
4-0
Eat that Boroda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
Off to a bar to get seriously wasted! :D
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Originally posted by Boroda
You see, we don't make tanks any more, so we need a substitute :D
Ah but you do, good ones too.
http://www.interdacom.ru/~tanks/
Too bad they cost more than my car. :eek:
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Originally posted by Boroda
Unfortunately, in semi-final Russia meets Finland. It means that we'll get bronze again :(
I bet ten to one on Finland :(
I have to admit that you were right. ;) Finland had a very solid performance from all the lines and the goalie. Not too many good scoring chances for Russia. With a similar game in the final, Sweden shouldn't be too much of a threat to Finland's gold. :D
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Originally posted by Panzzer
I have to admit that you were right. ;) Finland had a very solid performance from all the lines and the goalie. Not too many good scoring chances for Russia. With a similar game in the final, Sweden shouldn't be too much of a threat to Finland's gold. :D
Exactly. And we still have to beat Czechs, our traditional opponent.
Nordic final and Slavonic game for the third place.
This year it's no doubt that Finns deserve gold. They are simply better then others.
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Isn't looking too good for Russia now, Czechs lead 2-0. Oh well, a period and a half to go still. I hope that Russia can equalize and then win the bronze...
edited a period later: Looks like team Russia didn't recover from their loss to Finland yesterday - they haven't been even close to the level they were against Canada. 2-0 still, Russia hasn't produced any decent attacks. :(
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Sorry, Boroda, Russia will have to leave the Olympics without a medal... :(
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WTG Nashville Preds. Vokoun, Erat & Zidlicky beat the Rus!
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Originally posted by Krusher
THE MAN WHO SHOT ALL OVER LIBERTY VALANCE
btw 5 of the Dallas Stars ar Fins.
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Originally posted by Panzzer
Sorry, Boroda, Russia will have to leave the Olympics without a medal... :(
Second time in 50 years...
What really surprises me is how Swedes could win in final. After they lost to Russia 5:0, and after their poor playing in Euro finals last year.
Russians got what they deserved, but I am really sorry about Finns :(
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Im gona bet my money on Canda to win both gold in Mens and Womens. U.S. will take silver in both.
:rofl :D :rofl :D :lol :rofl
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The Finnish Team really couldn't play at same level as they did in the game against Russia which IMO was maybe the best play I've ever seen from the finns.
Silver Medal is a good achievement considering the low expectations before the tournament. Great hockey with a great attitude.
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Yup Wmaker. The Finnish team played some awsome hockey. Watched most of their games later in the tournament, specially the one against Russia and they were just awsome. The Russians just couldn't do anything against it.
Silver Medal is great, it really is. I'm very happy that the finals were between Finland and Sweden, like I said in another thread, Scandinavia rules!
And it makes me so much happier that two of the three big ones were kicked out before the Semi finals :D
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WTG Sweden :aok
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The final like the entire tournament never really took off... sure was a tactically well played game but still never really felt intense, except for last 5min...
Looking at just that game Sweden deserved the win but over the entire tournament... definatly not... just the fact that they folded against slovakia to get switzerland sucked arse and made it hard for me to really enjoy this win...
Finland was the best team of the tournament but it doesnt help when you dont win the final...
Imho this tournament was the farwell tour of the old stars... and it was a farwell performance in the spirit of "we take up place for the younger generation just because of our name and paychecks".
Look at Canada, satisfied with past performance and no hunger at all.
Look at the US, so pathetically slow that the famous american heart and grit didnt help em.
Look at Russia, the young generation carrying the old generation to what looked like a team effort... Im thinkin of players like Yashin, waste of space.
Look at Sweden, no speed old but so tactically smart that they managed to save a bit of energy for the final and hence win it.
Look at the Czech Rep, built around the old stars who didnt show any hunger at all.
The tournament would have been much more intense and enjoyable if Canada, US and Czechs would have been more hungry.
The only teams I really enojyed watching hockey wise was Finland, Slovakia and Russia (half of the team).
Next time in Vancouver Im quite sure we will see a totally different style of hockey. What Finland, Russia and Slovakia showed was a pretaste of the futre hockey. Fast and high paced. The new rules in the NHL will promote the development of fast players both forwards AND defenders. Speed will be much more of a factor over the comming years and it will show in what teams will dominate over the next few years.
Sweden, Canada and the US will have some big catching up to do over the next few years. I just cant see Sweden and US beeing powerhouses in Vancouver if the game turns towards speed. Slovakia and Russia have a big advantage in speed atm. Russia will have a marvelous team over the next decade and if slovakia can develope a goaltender of class they will be breathing down the russian neck. Finland is a bit hard to tell for me as most speed comes from older players atm and the younger finish players arnt making an impact yet (NHL wise). Czechs have a tradition of speed as well but I do feel the next generation beeing a bit thin.
Anyways still feels like this tournament was a "end".
Tex
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Look at Russia, the young generation carrying the old generation to what looked like a team effort... Im thinkin of players like Yashin, waste of space.
IMO Russia hardly desirved to be in the Olympics after the games they played. Too much roughing and they aimed more towards hurting the other team players then they did winning games.
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Congratulation Sweden!!!!:aok
It was great game!
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Gongrats Sweden...
I hate to admit but Sweden really played better this time , Finns were standing on wooden legs until last 5 mins....
I think Swedish team always has somekind of psychologigal advantage during matches... and lots of luck!
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Basically the game comes down to the last save by Lundqvist on Jokinen. It was a great play by Finland and an incredible save.