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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: culero on February 15, 2006, 09:37:34 PM
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My apologies if this question's been answered before. I've seen it said that HTC policy is against this, but I can't find anything in a forum search about it from HTC.
I constantly see people here complaining about what others enter into the text buffer, and moderation of that is constantly discussed. Given that, I fail to understand why it wouldn't be desirable for players to have the ability to have a persistent squelch list.
What's up there? What's the downside?
culero
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I thought the perma squelch would be a waste of coad, what with so many other things to work on. Now, I think I'd rather see that added than new planes. I'm trying to search and find the old permasquelch thread, but I can't find it.
It'd be interesting to hear his views on it now, especially with the other discussion going. I'm not coming up with a lot of cons atm. I know there's a few folks I'd love to never see or hear a single word from again though.
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this is an old subject and even turned up on the new wishlist... i am all for it
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I've wanted it from day one. HTC don't like the idea.
PS... I don't know alot about coading but it would be a simple .txt file just like any other settings/config file ie: joystick, views, etc... Shouldn't be too difficult.
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You know, if it were limited to 3 names, like on the ignore list for BBS, I just dont see why its a problem.
I've noticed that some guys go thru phases, and later seem to stabilize (med adjustments? :lol) -- maybe the permasquelch could last only a month, reset each tour.
I'd even pay perks to permasuelch a couple guys.
Honestly there are some hwo have ABSOLUTELY nothing redeeming to say, and whose manner poisons the whole arena. I dont start a session with squelch commands, and I find myself getting irritateed when one of the offenders starts up. I have to restrain my impulses to respond, and I dont always do the wise thing and squelch before I've commented, maybe adding to the problem. Permasquelch could cut down on reveryone's retaliatory urges and localoize the contagion to the troublemaker's pc's...
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why not just add a 'right click, squelch' option to the roster?
you could even have a 'favorites' list for squelch :)
but honestly, why can't you guys just ignore people?
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because johnnywaah, rmaniac and windX drive everyone nuts. i would love a perma squelch
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they dont drive me nuts, i just laugh at the people who let them wind them up.
just IGNORE THEM.
i know thats rich coming from me, but you dont hear me asking for perma squelch.
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Rather than a perma squelch list I would like a perma "bad word list"
A list of words that are filtered out of the radio bar that we can add to as we wish..........
A bit like parental control code................
Then it does not matter who said it and which channel was used we dont have to see it.
and it would sit on the FE.
Just dont store them as txt files as they would make strange reading:huh
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Originally posted by Tilt
Just dont store them as txt files as they would make strange reading:huh
Kind of like a MadLibs for Tourette's sufferers. :huh
Still interested in HT's views on the matter. The idea of a text file we could edit (similar to the ignore feature we have on the bbs) seems like a good one.
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
but honestly, why can't you guys just ignore people?
Do you?
Ever?
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
I thought the perma squelch would be a waste of coad, what with so many other things to work on.
Send me the COAD. 30 mins should be plenty.
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"honestly, why can't you guys just ignore people?"
Well. The game is about people playing with (and against) other people. Due to the shear numbers online there's bound to be a sizable cadre of anti-social, retarded types in the mix.
Too often thier whiney, idiotic, sniveling, diahreal rants push the radio text of normal, decent, adjusted and socialable players rapidly off the radio buffer.
And it's usually the same morons who repeatedly need to be squelched and ignored. So to to add insult to injury not only do normal people have to endure this never ending jeuvinile crap they are forced to perform the chore of squelching others every time they log on.
And that's just the country channel. At least 200 has to be selected deliberately. Range vox is the worst.
The problem and the pLaYsKoOl atmosphere cheapens the game environment and many players often say to themselves "fediddle this baloney" and log off - some just unsub from the game altogether.
So honestly?
Why can't some people just control themselves?
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If the text buffer is bothering you and your not deaf.
You spend too much time reading the text buffer LMAO
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New words to add to the text filter:
-dweeb
-cheat(s)(ing)(er)
-Ho(ing)(er)
...sure theres more to add....lol
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Tilt for President!
I mean seriously...why use Mods where human error or favoritism could be present, when you could solve the problem with simple settings?
This would also put an end to people claiming (right or wrongfully) that the mods arent being fair.
Permasquelch and a Custom "Personal" word Filter of our own both get my vote.
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Why not squelch whole squads? :D
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About the behavior on Range vox:
Although my son loves to see and hear what's going on (especially during base captures), I still have to keep the headphones on because of the twits that throw a very metaphorically colorful tantrum when things don't go their way. Just sucks I guess for a kid that wants to learn the game.
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Originally posted by ThunderEGG
About the behavior on Range vox:
Although my son loves to see and hear what's going on (especially during base captures), I still have to keep the headphones on because of the twits that throw a very metaphorically colorful tantrum when things don't go their way. Just sucks I guess for a kid that wants to learn the game.
pull up the roster, right click their name, and select REPORT VOX.
I PROMISE you that will help.
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I hear ya' Lute
I've done that a few times. TY for your suggestion, though.
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Originally posted by Westy
"honestly, why can't you guys just ignore people?"
Well. The game is about people playing with (and against) other people. Due to the shear numbers online there's bound to be a sizable cadre of anti-social, retarded types in the mix.
Too often thier whiney, idiotic, sniveling, diahreal rants push the radio text of normal, decent, adjusted and socialable players rapidly off the radio buffer.
And it's usually the same morons who repeatedly need to be squelched and ignored. So to to add insult to injury not only do normal people have to endure this never ending jeuvinile crap they are forced to perform the chore of squelching others every time they log on.
And that's just the country channel. At least 200 has to be selected deliberately. Range vox is the worst.
The problem and the pLaYsKoOl atmosphere cheapens the game environment and many players often say to themselves "fediddle this baloney" and log off - some just unsub from the game altogether.
So honestly?
Why can't some people just control themselves?
Well said!
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A big part of 'just ignoring' the problems is the squelch. A permasquelch that mutes upon logging in helps avoid confrontations. :)
or else make some kinda macro and develop your own list
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I was never "for" the permasquelch option, for the same reason that I was against the dropping of Ch2 and the use of Ch200. It simply sidesteps the problem and doesnt address it directly. If you let people get away with being abusive and give the excuse "well you can squelch them, you can not tune to 200, etc............." you are as good as condoning the behavior. Putting a text filter in is great. Human mods still need to be there though to answer the problem of abuse of vox. Basically you have to set limits and you have to stand by them. Allowing abuse of those rules leads eventually to total disregard and then a huge blowup when you finally have to put a foot down. If simple rules were enforced properly, no one would ever feel like they had lost anything and there wouldnt be any complaints.
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
I was never "for" the permasquelch option, for the same reason that I was against the dropping of Ch2 and the use of Ch200. It simply sidesteps the problem and doesnt address it directly. If you let people get away with being abusive and give the excuse "well you can squelch them, you can not tune to 200, etc............." you are as good as condoning the behavior. Putting a text filter in is great. Human mods still need to be there though to answer the problem of abuse of vox. Basically you have to set limits and you have to stand by them. Allowing abuse of those rules leads eventually to total disregard and then a huge blowup when you finally have to put a foot down. If simple rules were enforced properly, no one would ever feel like they had lost anything and there wouldnt be any complaints.
I don't "condone" the behavior, HT does by "allowing abuse of those rules".
They will NEVER be able to "enforce" the simple rules properly.
Those of us who are tired of the BS and having to type .squelch moron 10 times everytime we log in are simply looking for an easier option.
Would be great if everytime I logged in the chat read:
.join requests will be shown in chat bar
.permasqulech list has been loaded
That'd be pure nirvana. No not you Nirvana. ;)
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I understand what you want. I'd even welcome it myself. The problem is its the easy way out, and its not the right way. If you allow it to go on without drawing a line it will continue to escalate. Just because you can put blinders on and not see it doesnt make it go away. And yes, it can be enforced. I've seen it done quite effectively, and it didnt do a thing to ruin anyone's good time. Because they knew the rules, and they knew they would be enforced.
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I have a perma-squelch and I recently updated it... both my keyboard and my sticks allow macros to be set up in this way.
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
I understand what you want. I'd even welcome it myself. The problem is its the easy way out, and its not the right way. If you allow it to go on without drawing a line it will continue to escalate. Just because you can put blinders on and not see it doesnt make it go away. And yes, it can be enforced. I've seen it done quite effectively, and it didnt do a thing to ruin anyone's good time. Because they knew the rules, and they knew they would be enforced.
I think HTC recognizes the problem, which is why they've increased the number of moderators. I agree 100% that squelching leaves the stink on the channel, and many will not protect themselves by squelching. Doing things right means changing the abusers behavior -- but
"Abuse" is real, but not easy to quantify with 1's and 0's. So, the human element is crucial. Solving the abuse issue will take a large number of moderators in order to have adequate coverage, and fair application of the rules will require that the moderators be trained.
That takes time.
HTC has recognized the problem, assessed it, and come up with a plan. The mere fact that the moderator force has been increased means that things were being addressed even before the issue slopped all over the BBS. Remember that while we addicts get annoyed by the nastiness, HTC may lose potential long term subscribers because of a dysfunctional few. The stakes are higher for them than for us.
Lets see what happens, and chill out for now.
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Originally posted by Delirium
I have a perma-squelch and I recently updated it... both my keyboard and my sticks allow macros to be set up in this way.
I had hoped HT would rise to the occasion eventually, well, maybe someday. I guess I'll have to try and figure something else out.
Sad that so few can spoil the fun for so many. That's life though, no reason this "game" should be any different.
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All due respect, folks, but I would sure like to hear someone from HTC give an answer.
culero (likes to listen to horses)
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I believe this would be a desirable feature.
I've played other games where you could have a permanent squelch list. It worked well. AH2 already remembers your favorite rides, the skins you choose for them and the load out you last used. I don’t see a reason it couldn’t remember this as well.