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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DREDIOCK on February 16, 2006, 08:19:08 AM
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Can someone please explain to me why...
CURLING IS AN OLYMPIC SPORT?????
And how in the hell does anyone consider anyone who participates in this....activity an ATHLETE??
Interesting to watch. (for about 5 minutes) but not what I would call gripping competition.
Its about the same as calling people who plays Horseshoes, Pool or your local Janitor who sweeps and mops floors"Athletes"
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I would say that they (curlers), are just as athletic as shooters. Should we call shooters athletes? What about archery? Luge?
Of course there's always this Hotties with brooms: U.S. women curlers have sex appeal (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/special_packages/olympics/13850335.htm)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I would say that they (curlers), are just as athletic as shooters. Should we call shooters athletes? What about archery? Luge?
Of course there's always this Hotties with brooms: U.S. women curlers have sex appeal (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/special_packages/olympics/13850335.htm)
archery yes. Luge yes.
Both things that require both skill and at least a certain degree of physical fitness.
Shooters. no
Any redneck can be a shooter
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I'm a new "fan" of this sport. Its actually really great when you get into it. Tactics are just as important as curling a great stone. You don't have to be as fit as in many other sports, but that also goes for alot of other sports.
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Any redneck can shoot, but not all rednecks can shoot well. It takes a certain degree of dexterity and skill to shoot at Olympic levels.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Can someone please explain to me why...
CURLING IS AN OLYMPIC SPORT?????
And how in the hell does anyone consider anyone who participates in this....activity an ATHLETE??
Tell that to my sister-in-law who just quite competive curling. She worked out every day that she could (weights and running) to be in condition, as did the rest of her team. Right now she is in Torino with the woman's team.
Only the ignorant would say curlers, at the competive level, are not athletes.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Tell that to my sister-in-law who just quite competive curling. She worked out every day that she could (weights and running) to be in condition, as did the rest of her team. Right now she is in Torino with the woman's team.
Only the ignorant would say curlers, at the competive level, are not athletes.
Cool! Whats her name, and what team is she on?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
I'm a new "fan" of this sport. Its actually really great when you get into it. Tactics are just as important as curling a great stone. You don't have to be as fit as in many other sports, but that also goes for alot of other sports.
As an activity I can see how it would be fun to do.
And it is certainly more fun to watch then say. Bowling or Golf.
I just dont see what place it has as an olympic event
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Tell that to my sister-in-law who just quite competive curling. She worked out every day that she could (weights and running) to be in condition, as did the rest of her team. Right now she is in Torino with the woman's team.
Only the ignorant would say curlers, at the competive level, are not athletes.
Work out??
To be in condition for what?
To slide a 42 pound granite stone across the ice?
Exactly what was the weight traingin and running for?
Tell her to come over to my house and she can get all the conditioning she needs mopping my floors.
Althete indeed.
Nonesence
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Sorry Nilsen, won't give it out.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Sorry Nilsen, won't give it out.
But the team then?
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How could you question Luge? Luge is all about the start...get a good start and you have a chance. That is why most lugers are former sprinters, very much althletes.
Bermuda's one and only participant in these winter olympics is a guy named Patrick Singleton. His event is the Skeleton. Sort of like luge except instead of lying on your back you go head-first on your stomach.
He competes tomorrow in round one.
Go PAT!!!!!!:aok
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Nilsen
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DREDIOCK, as I said ignorant.
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Oh Im crushed.
Namecalling makes you soooo much more mature and worldly and just does everything to make your opinion more valid
she still aint an athlete
and calling me ignorant wont make her so no matter how many times you try LMAO
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Nilsen
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DREDIOCK, as I said ignorant.
Oh.. they are real contestants then.
Your guys beat ours today, but im not sure if the women have met yet.
-edit- they meet in 2 hours actually! :)
good luck
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Can someone please explain to me why...
BASEBALL IS AN OLYMPIC SPORT?????
And how in the hell does anyone consider anyone who participates in this....activity an ATHLETE??
Interesting to watch. (for about 5 minutes) but not what I would call gripping competition.
Its about the same as calling people who plays Horseshoes, Pool or your local Janitor who sweeps and mops floors"Athletes"
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Doh! That's right, it's NOT an Olympic sport anymore!
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your in good company, this guy doesnt think they are athletes either, for reasons of his own..
Finally, tonight, the Winter Games. Count me among those who don’t like them and won’t watch them ... Because they’re so trying, maybe over the next three weeks we should all try too. Like, try not to be incredulous when someone attempts to link these games to those of the ancient Greeks who never heard of skating or skiing. So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world’s greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the Winter Games look like a GOP convention. Try not to point out that something’s not really a sport if a pseudo-athlete waits in what’s called a kiss-and-cry area, while some panel of subjective judges decides who won ... So if only to hasten the arrival of the day they’re done, when we can move on to March Madness — for God’s sake, let the games begin." -Bryant Gumbel
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One could argue that if it needs to be judged, it's not a sport.
In the winter olympics, that rules out:
Figure Skating, Snowboarding, Freestyle Skiing, Ski Jumping (though they could get rid of the sissy judging and just go for distance).
But leaves curling.
In the summer olympics, it rules out:
Gymnastics, ??
If you also discount any sport where a significant edge goes to the equipment, that pretty much only leaves Nordic Skiing and speed skating in the winter (though we could debate over alpine skiing).
It only discounts bicycling and yachting in the summer.
Seems like Bryant Gumble has a point.
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Originally posted by Samiam
Can someone please explain to me why...
BASEBALL IS AN OLYMPIC SPORT?????
And how in the hell does anyone consider anyone who participates in this....activity an ATHLETE??
Interesting to watch. (for about 5 minutes) but not what I would call gripping competition.
Its about the same as calling people who plays Horseshoes, Pool or your local Janitor who sweeps and mops floors"Athletes"
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Doh! That's right, it's NOT an Olympic sport anymore!
It was an olympic sport but at least its a real sport and not just an activity.
Because to play it at a high level
It requires you to be physically fit at the very least, You have to be able to Run fast ,catch, and throw fairly long distances, or faster then your average person.
I find it interesting to watch...for about 5 minutes also before I am bored to tears with it also. But at least its a sport.
Now Curling may be more of a sport then say...a game of Monopoly or Chess. But its far closer to monopoly then it is baseball
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Interesting to watch. (for about 5 minutes) but not what I would call gripping competition.
It's about as exciting as womens golf
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So appearently the Australian mogul gold medalist Dale Begg-Smith is also a spyware kingpin. Now some are even calling for an IOC investigation.
article on Spam Kings (http://spamkings.oreilly.com/archives/2006/02/asterisk_on_popup_moguls_gold.html)
I'd say I'm on the fence about it. Spyware creators and distributors should be beaten sensless on principle, and it violates the olympics code of ethics. However, he won because he did better than everybody else, not because the spyware helped him across the line faster.
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Did you guys miss the fact that the "women of curling" calendar has been released? I'd post a pic, but Suzzy would track me down.
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
It's about as exciting as womens golf
oh dont even get me started on golf reguardless of gender.
Watching golf is only slightly more exiting then watching grass grow and slightly less exiting then watching snow melt
Though if forced to watch, (and it would take force) I'd much rather watch female golfers then male ones
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At least in curling it doesn't take a judge to tell you who won.
I would get rid of:
Ice Dancing
(I'd get rid of the other figure skating but wouldn't get away with it.. at least I would bring back school figures part)
Aerial trick ski jumping
Half pipe
the judgement part of ski jumping
In the Summer games:
Diving
Rythymic gymnastics
Synchronized swimming
Half the medals in regular gymnastics along with music in the floor exercise
More or less anyting that requires that we throw out the high and throw out the low and average the rest then multiply by the degree of difficulty.
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Originally posted by JimBear
your in good company, this guy doesnt think they are athletes either, for reasons of his own..
Finally, tonight, the Winter Games. Count me among those who don’t like them and won’t watch them ... Because they’re so trying, maybe over the next three weeks we should all try too. Like, try not to be incredulous when someone attempts to link these games to those of the ancient Greeks who never heard of skating or skiing. So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world’s greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the Winter Games look like a GOP convention. Try not to point out that something’s not really a sport if a pseudo-athlete waits in what’s called a kiss-and-cry area, while some panel of subjective judges decides who won ... So if only to hasten the arrival of the day they’re done, when we can move on to March Madness — for God’s sake, let the games begin." -Bryant Gumbel
I can't let this slide without at least pointing out how racist this sounds. But then I keep forgetting that he's black so he is allowed to be a racist.
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Originally posted by Mighty1
I can't let this slide without at least pointing out how racist this sounds. But then I keep forgetting that he's black so he is allowed to be a racist.
I was thinking almost those exact same words
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huge winter sports fan here and belive it or not I really do enjoy curling as well.
I do agree that it does fall into the debate of "what is a sport" but I really dont care its got TONS of tactics, TONS of skill involved and curling games can be extreamly exciting.
Imho its just as much a sport as baseball. Baseball is alot of tactics and alot of skill but hardly a exhausting sport either.
Using the argument that curling shouldnt be in the olympics due to lack of physical exhausting activity is imho stoopid. Why? Because then once we get rid of curling we have to get rid of Half Pipe as its not as physically demanding as cross country skiing. Finally we would end up with the olympics consisting of two (at best) disciplines 50km Cross Country and 10km skating, well maybe the downhill could survive.
One of the reasons that Ive over the years gotten really into curling when it comes to the olympics is that our commentator is really great. A good commentator who can explain the sport and its tactics at a good level is really important.
Tex
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She's on the Hunters Toilet Paper Team?
:huh
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Gumbel should strap on a pair of skiis and a rifle and see if he can finish the biathalon course within several hours of the time Olympians can.
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Olympians? WE prefer to be called Olympianees!
:D
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By the way, Baseball and Softball have been dropped from the London games.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Aerial trick ski jumping
Half pipe
What?!
I want to see you even try what some of those competitors do. Doing multiple backflips high above the ground on skis and not dieing is a skill in my book, not a passtime for us regulars.
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i tried watching curling lol I can't figure out the stupid rules, I watched it for about 30 minutes and I link it in the same category as chess and poker... a hobby not a sport, a sport consists of actually breaking a sweat, if you don't sweat its not a sport
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and playin chess outside on a hot day does not count lol
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AH2 should be a olympic sport :)
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Looking at porn can break a sweat.
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"Looking at porn can break a sweat."
I'm not sure how you would compete in that, but if you were "racing" other people to ummm... do something something lol... then I would classify it as a sport
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Sport (noun) :
Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
An active pastime; recreation.
:aok
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tex..you obviously have never snowboarded in a halfpipe..let alone get to a skill level where theses guys are launching...i dotn liek all the spins..im more of a large air style guy but..its no joke and cross countyr skiers wont break there spine if they ski wrong
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Originally posted by JimBear
"... So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world’s greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the Winter Games look like a GOP convention. ..."[/b] -Bryant Gumbel [/B]
Gumbel is a racist, corporate choad.
Here's a good read. (http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=63192).
Oh... and the HBO Sports Message Boards (http://boards.hbo.com/category.jspa?categoryID=600000000&start=0#topics) are lighting up.
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(http://www.usolympicteam.com/cassieandjamiejohnson-actio.jpg)
This is why I like curling
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I would say that they (curlers), are just as athletic as shooters. Should we call shooters athletes? What about archery? Luge?
Of course there's always this Hotties with brooms: U.S. women curlers have sex appeal (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/special_packages/olympics/13850335.htm)
Did anyone else get a giggle out of them saying how popular the women's "pole vault" was? They can vault my pole anytime :aok :aok :rofl :noid
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Dear Fans of Real Sports,
I would like to take this opportunity to explain my remarks made on the February 7th episode of "Real Sports." Many of you seem to think that I discount the achievement of white athletes because of the paucity (I love that word) of black athletes. You couldn't be more wrong. White athletes do the best they can, considering their limited skills and genetic gifts.
Let's be honest, a few more trips up the chairlift and I could have dusted Alberta Tomba (my ski instructor at Aspen said I was WAY better than Goldie Hawn AND Kurt Russell). Eric Heiden? He's just lucky my cousin doesn't like the ice. Bonnie Blair? My grandmother was faster in sneakers.
I also apologize for limiting my remarks to the Winter Olympics. Let's examine other sports where there is a paucity (ooh goody, used it again) of black athletes.
The only reason Lance Armstrong won seven Tour de France championships was because my brother Greg chafes in lycra. Hell, if you gave the average brother some water wings, they would have smoked Mark Spitz easy. (Do you realize how slow the swimmers must have been going in Munich if a Jewish guy won seven gold medals?)
And don't even mention Wayne Gretzky. Like I said, my cousin isn't fond of the white stuff (it's a color thing).
I know what you're going to say -- if black athletes are so superior in every regard, why is there an occasional white athlete who doesn't completely stink in sports with a paucity (three times, yahoo!) of white athletes? Simple -- the GOP makes us promise to take it easy on a few of you guys every few years so you'll watch programs like mine. C'mon, how else can you explain Larry Bird (beyond white), Sandy Koufax (Jew again) and Tom Brady (hot ex-fiance)?
So, to all you white Republicans who can't stand the truth, I apologize if my remarks were misconstrued. Simply put -- you guys suck and HBO doesn't have the balls to do anything about it.
B. Gumbel
Real Sports
HBO
I can't tell if it's real or not. Some people are treating it like it is.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I can't tell if it's real or not. Some people are treating it like it is.
It's satire.
Oh... and on the HBO forums, the posts begin at the bottom and work up.
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Here is the real quote
"Finally, tonight, the Winter Games. Count me among those who don’t like them and won’t watch them ... Because they’re so trying, maybe over the next three weeks we should all try too. Like, try not to be incredulous when someone attempts to link these games to those of the ancient Greeks who never heard of skating or skiing. So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world’s greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the Winter Games look like a GOP convention. Try not to point out that something’s not really a sport if a pseudo-athlete waits in what’s called a kiss-and-cry area, while some panel of subjective judges decides who won ... So if only to hasten the arrival of the day they’re done, when we can move on to March Madness — for God’s sake, let the games begin."
No one would care, in fact many on this BBS would probably agree with him if he'd just left out the stupid race card.
I agree.. he's a choad.
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Originally posted by Samiam
One could argue that if it needs to be judged, it's not a sport.
Actually not true.
I think there is at least 1 one that needs to jbe judged (to keep people from getting killed) that nowbody can really argue is a sport. Though not in the Winter Olympics
Boxing
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Curling Teams are made up of the BEST WHITE Middle class housewives and stay at home dads the GOP has to offer. Cleaning up after 2 year old twins with a penchant for slinging Koolaid all over the floor...can teach you to mop in a hurry. :)
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
What?!
I want to see you even try what some of those competitors do. Doing multiple backflips high above the ground on skis and not dieing is a skill in my book, not a passtime for us regulars.
Not argueing that doing a mobius is not difficult. Its fun to watch.
Watching the trapeze act at a circus is terrific. I just do not consider doing circus tricks should be considered equal to running a 2:08 marathon or lifting a world record weight.
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Apples and oarges I guess. Everyone has their own opinions on what makes the Oylimpics.
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
tex..you obviously have never snowboarded in a halfpipe..let alone get to a skill level where theses guys are launching...i dotn liek all the spins..im more of a large air style guy but..its no joke and cross countyr skiers wont break there spine if they ski wrong
you totally missunderstood my entire point.
Im a hardcore skiier that loves to live in the backcountry and Ive been skiing for 28 of my 31 years... so I know very well what every skiing discipline requires...
The point I was making was that if you say that one sport (curling in this case) isnt physical enough for the olymipcs and get rid of it then next time there will be another sport which aint physical enough. What Im saying is that there are several components to sports and that skill and tactics shouldnt be underated.
Halfpipe and freestyle jump are two extreamly skill based sports yet not very physicaly demanding if you compare to the 50km cross country.
Im pointing this out because you CANT judge sports on only their need of physical exhaustion.
Curling requires a crap load of skill, tactics and mental strength.
Halfpipe requires a crap load of skill, body control and mental focus.
Skii jumping requires a crap load of skill, body control and mental focus.
Free style jump requires a crap load of skill, body control and mental focus. (and bindings that dont come off:) )
Cross country requires alot of skill, physical fittnest and tactics.
None is a lesser sport then the other.
Tex
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Originally posted by TexMurphy
None is a lesser sport then the other.
Tex
well said
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And let's not forget vulching...
Synchronized Vulching
Free-Style Vulching
These require patience, timing, several ounces of back pressure on the stick, extensive conditioning & training and hand-eye coordination.
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I'll admit that I watched some of the curling this weekend, mostly because I was too tired from playing beach volleyball to roll over and change the channel. But seriously, my wife did get into it and was trying to follow along with the rules. Seemed fairly cerebral.
The Olympic sport that I got the biggest charge out of (so far) is the snowboard cross! Holy crap! :O They should have snowboardcross races every weekend on tv. It could fill the slot right before NASACAR coverage starts.
Snowboardcross is da bomb!
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gotya tex..
Ok...how about Ice Dancing?....holy sheite...
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Boardercross! Boardercross Boardercross Boardercross! That's what it's been called for better than 10 years, and now the Olympics come along and think they can change the name to "Snowboardcross" and make it the next curling. :furious /rant
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Both bordercross and skiiercross rocks... I which the later could be added to the games as well..
As for bordercross... one song comes to minde.... Red Hot Chillipeppers... Give it away...Give it away...Give it away...Give it away...now... ;) Christ she must be killing her self now...
Figure skating is another sport that Ive always really enjoyed when it comes to the olympics... very athletic, very skilled and the sport with the best looking female bodies ever... no other female athletes have so fantasticly tuned bodies... Skiiers, skaters, sprinters ect have proportionally too well trained legs... swimmers, rowers, ect have proportionally too well trained upper boddies... mid, long distance runners are too skinney... figure skaters... perfect... ;)
Tex
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smokin hot
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