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Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Morpheus on February 16, 2006, 12:41:16 PM: I just ordered trackIR. I've been playing these two jet sims constantly the past month. I loved lockon back in the day when it first came out, just picked up a copy of Falc4 and the new Lockon FC and can't put them down.

Do any of you who play lockon or falcon4 (i think there's a couple of you) use trackIR? I cant stand the horrible view system for lockon, falcon 4 is no better really. How hard is trackIR to hook up and program with either of these two sims? I know absolutely nothing about trackIR but I've seen films made with it and it looks unbelievable. Tracking tiny dots with no icons is next to imposible with the standard view system in either of these two sims. And playing with icons on is way too easy and takes the fun out of BVR with red dots all over the sky. I hope trackIR will make a difference in that respect.

Morph
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Furball on February 16, 2006, 01:09:35 PM: i coulda sent you it morph, i have TrackIR sitting in a drawer doing nothing.
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Morpheus on February 16, 2006, 01:13:56 PM: no way
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Furball on February 16, 2006, 01:16:34 PM: serious, if u want it, post your address in squad forum.

i think its a TrackIR3 Pro, i dont have any of the reflective dots anymore though.
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Morpheus on February 16, 2006, 01:35:55 PM: that reminds me, i still have to get hubs watermelon to him. :eek: what a pos i am to let that slip my mind. i got the box of good sitting right behind my door grrr fk.

how much you want for it?

i'll post my addy in the squad forum.

i bet shipping from over there to here isn't going to be cheap.
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Curval on February 16, 2006, 02:05:16 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
serious, if u want it, post your address in squad forum.

i think its a TrackIR3 Pro, i dont have any of the reflective dots anymore though.

ROFL

I just sent Stringer mine...sans reflective dots too. No idea where they went.
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Morpheus on February 16, 2006, 02:28:33 PM: lol you dont like it or what?

I've heard alot of good things about it.

I'll hijack my own thread and post the link to a film I just finished for lockon.

The high quality link isn't working yet, Im uploading the film now. Should work in an hour or so. The low res is up. Its my first lockon film so go easy on the bashing. :)

High Quality Version (http://www.furballunderground.com/films/promises_high.wmv)

Low Quality (http://www.furballunderground.com/films/promises.wmv)
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: indy007 on February 16, 2006, 02:36:21 PM: Neither F4 or F4:AF support more than yaw & pitch movement. It kinda sucks. However, it still is better than the normal view system. I love the game, but hate the view system. However, to make up for this chronic flaw, you can force multi-monitor support on it using ATI cards & Hydravision. There's threads over at Frugal's & Viperpit.org that cover how to do it. I can't wait to have working MFD's... that's gonna be spiffy. To your original question, it wasn't hard to setup at all, since there's only 2dof. I don't use mine much really, only click it on when I start to decelerate & crank after an aim120 release, or when I notch & sprint away.

LoMac is the same as F4, kinda neutered. In FC you get 1 extra dof, Z axis iirc. LoMac: Black Shark, whenever it comes out, will bring in true 6dof trackIR usage and will hopefully feel very similar to AH. Gotta wait a bit for that one though :(
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Curval on February 16, 2006, 02:40:34 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Morpheus
lol you dont like it or what?

Was that directed at me?

If so, no...I didn't like it.

I move around alot while flying...never realised how much until I tried the Track IR. It made flying with it really tough.

I also did feel a bit sick at times too...motion sickness.
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Estel on February 16, 2006, 03:22:05 PM: BTW, the Black Shark beta video is out. Looks very good.
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: LePaul on February 16, 2006, 03:46:29 PM: Check the Falcon 4 Allied Force section of the SimHq.com forums. Lots of posts and such about using TrackIR

Recall Falcon is a massive re-do/code cleanup of the original game. Its vastly more stable now. Its also built around DirectX 7. Now if these guys re-do the graphics engine...or the whole game...around the newer versions....oh my, we should have a really sharp looking game. That would mean the stunning LoMac style graphics with the very in depth avionics, etc.
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: g00b on February 16, 2006, 04:14:30 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Morpheus
lol you dont like it or what?

I've heard alot of good things about it.

I'll hijack my own thread and post the link to a film I just finished for lockon.

The high quality link isn't working yet, Im uploading the film now. Should work in an hour or so. The low res is up. Its my first lockon film so go easy on the bashing. :)

High Quality Version (http://www.furballunderground.com/films/promises_high.wmv)

Low Quality (http://www.furballunderground.com/films/promises.wmv)

Nice vid Morph! You in a Lock-On Squad? I'm in the 169th Panthers squad, exclusive beta test squad for Lock-On, care to join us?

Did you actually fly any of the planes in that vid or just just set up a mission and film it?

g00b
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Morpheus on February 16, 2006, 06:24:02 PM: Thanks g00b. The hires version of the film shoudl be up. Its a big boy though... Anyone download that? Just curious as to the download time from my server.

Yeah I flew the lead F-14. It was 004. And I took the SU's off. kept the pheonix missils shooting to a minimum as the SU's wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell in even seeing the tomcats. :D

I would love to fly with you guys if you have room. Are you testing black shark? I am dying to see what that is like. PM me through my site if you want, or here is fine too. Let me know.

Thanks again
Morph
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: RedTop on February 16, 2006, 06:49:45 PM: Only took a couple of minutes Morph.

Been thinking about Lock On FC. Think Il;l get it. With the system I have...should be very nice.

Edit...

TrackIr works fine for me. I have only used it in AH. Hard to get used to...but fun and a new thing to the game for realism so to speak. Good Luck with it.
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: LePaul on February 16, 2006, 08:23:58 PM: If it wasnt for that dang spyware (Starvector) crap...Id do the Lock On thing. Sigh!
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Morpheus on February 16, 2006, 09:57:03 PM: I have no problems with anything that deals with Lockon. I installed the new gold pack after about a year of not having anything from lomac on my PC and its' still running fine. That was almost 2 months ago. Maybe I'm just the lucky one.
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Octavius on February 16, 2006, 09:59:10 PM: LOMAC and TrackIR is great. I tried flying without it a few times, and it's a big hassle.
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Morpheus on February 16, 2006, 10:26:08 PM: That's right, you bastige. I forgot you have trackIR. I saw your P40 film on the net from AH and was drooling. It seems to add so much dimension to a flight sim. And that was just from watching a low res film with someone else behind the stick.

Did you get motion sickness? I dont really get sick from that sort of thing. I can take a pretty good beating up in the air irl and am fine. Though i imagine it could be a different kind of sick.
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Octavius on February 16, 2006, 10:43:00 PM: I dunno, everyone reacts differently. HT said he felt sick after testing it the coad ingame. :D I felt queezy for maybe an hour, but I was smiling cause it was so ****in cool the first time with full movement (6dof) :)

You see that film when Saw hosted it? or did it show up elsewhere? The naturalpoint dudes threw it in their fan video section before I could blink. :)
Title: TrackIR for Lock-on and Falcon4 AF
Post by: Morpheus on February 16, 2006, 10:48:29 PM: I cant remember where I found it to be honest. I was on the net and just heppened to do a search for something like Aces High and Movies/Films and that came up some place. It was cool as hell to see it in use.