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Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Morpheus on February 16, 2006, 01:53:06 PM
The Low quality is finished. High quality is rendering now and should be up in a few hours. The 2nd link will NOT work until the hires film is finished. Ill let you know when its up. Hires version has better looking eye candy.

Low Quality (22mb) (http://www.furballunderground.com/films/promises.wmv)

High Quality (larger file size) (http://www.furballunderground.com/films/promises_high.wmv)
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Stratocaster on February 16, 2006, 01:57:36 PM
AMAZING.. I shed a tear everytime I think of the tomcat as being on its last tour :( great film
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Pooface on February 16, 2006, 02:00:59 PM
i know, poor tomcats :(
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Pooface on February 16, 2006, 02:20:52 PM
good movie morph.



i have one question, is flaming cliffs a patch/mod, or is it another game completely? i have LOMAC, and that looked really cool. any way i can get flaming cliffs? or do i buy it somewhere?
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Morpheus on February 16, 2006, 02:22:51 PM
Thanks.

F/C is an addon to modern air combat, and yeah, you have to buy it. In a store or on line.
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Pooface on February 16, 2006, 07:10:33 PM
cc cool, maybe i'll check it out
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Casper1 on February 17, 2006, 08:27:34 AM
Nice film Morph...

I gotta get that game...
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Krusty on February 17, 2006, 12:10:39 PM
That's pretty cool, I especially like the graphics that game has for explosions.

I noticed some jerking/stuttering in the motion of some of the shots, and was wondering if that was simply an issue with the view keys in-game, like we have with AH?
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Morpheus on February 17, 2006, 12:32:22 PM
where?
Title: Nice
Post by: Spiffing on February 17, 2006, 12:56:03 PM
Very nice I like the flow of the movie. Good shots of the low alt formation. I'm guessing you use Sony Vegas or something like that right?

Top film
Title: Re: Nice
Post by: Pooface on February 17, 2006, 01:08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Spiffing
Very nice I like the flow of the movie. Good shots of the low alt formation. I'm guessing you use Sony Vegas or something like that right?

Top film



spiffing, you dont NEED a good editor to make a good film. up till now all my films were done in windows movie maker. i just got hold of vegas, so im hoping all my films will look even better in the future. if you need any tips or help just PM me, i'd be happy to help
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Morpheus on February 17, 2006, 01:19:47 PM
There is a reason the real life pros who do it for money use vegas.
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Bogie603rd on February 17, 2006, 01:44:21 PM
Its a nice film Morpheus! I really enjoy watching Modern-Day Aircraft Formations. Also, the fight scenes had some awesome shots! You should submit it to LO-MAC for an "intro":aok
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Krusty on February 17, 2006, 05:39:19 PM
Morph: Specifically? They were all in the same type of chase view. The Su's taking off, some in-flight chase scenes, but not the group formation ones. It looked a little like keys were being pressed to hold the view in position, but that's my only guess.
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Pooface on February 17, 2006, 05:54:10 PM
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Originally posted by Morpheus
There is a reason the real life pros who do it for money use vegas.



yes, vegas is very good. but if you dont have it, and dont have the money to get it, it doesnt mean you cant make a decent film in WMM

people seemed to like my battle of britain film, that was all done in WMM. of course, there are very annoying aspects to WMM, but if its all you have, it doesnt matter
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Morpheus on February 17, 2006, 07:36:18 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Morph: Specifically? They were all in the same type of chase view. The Su's taking off, some in-flight chase scenes, but not the group formation ones. It looked a little like keys were being pressed to hold the view in position, but that's my only guess.


word
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: B@tfinkV on February 17, 2006, 11:29:12 PM
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Originally posted by Pooface
yes, vegas is very good. but if you dont have it, and dont have the money to get it, it doesnt mean you cant make a decent film in WMM

people seemed to like my battle of britain film, that was all done in WMM. of course, there are very annoying aspects to WMM, but if its all you have, it doesnt matter



does anyone still pay for software??

omg, no one told me.
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Morpheus on February 18, 2006, 12:23:37 PM
krusty. for one let me start off by saying that any film I post isn't to gain the aprovale of the masses. rather its to show you the work i've done... and if you like it or not, it makes no difference to me.

the "jitter" was intentional. most of the films i've seen are far too molded, rock steady, and look nothing like the real deal. IRL you have camera bounce, shake, movement... AH films look so far from what plane to plane views look like. I went with a "raw" feeling on some shots because, well I felt like it. To break out and come up with something new, you have to try different things. Sometimes they come out looking spectacular, other times they come out looking just ok... and then other times they need to just be done over.

Frankly I'm happy with how the film came out. I cant' forget that it is the first film I've done using lockon. Even though their film viewer makes aces high film viewer look like a little toy, it deffinatly takes time to learn and master. Master meaning getting every bit you can from one single shot.
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: B@tfinkV on February 18, 2006, 12:38:59 PM
i thought the film was grade A, for what its worth.

not as good as AHP&P though.
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: eilif on February 18, 2006, 12:55:24 PM
nice storytelling, its tougher with rocket combat, i like the final shots where the one tomcat is in the forground and all you can see is its nose and canopy which makes it look like a group of birds, specialy how they moved. looping that awfull music around 3 times didnt help but over all nice work.
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Kazaa on February 18, 2006, 06:37:09 PM
Yeah..... that’s what I’m talking about, raid video Morpheus !

FYI I just got this game today, I had it on demo for about A week or so & I fired my 1st missile this afternoon, hooray for me :D.

I am newbie at this game so I’m not doing to well, all these buttons to press ohhhhhh.
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: [Sg]ShotGun on February 18, 2006, 07:38:21 PM
Well I had some problems with 'IRL' there morph.

In flight, 14s dont jitter, they pitch and slide in thermals, but they dont jitter like there are goin down a very bumpy road. except when being shot from the cat.
Ya ever see the combat films of journalists from within a 17 looking at 3 other 17s rolln in the thermals?? You can still reed the numbers on the other aircraft.



Its difficult to fault you morph, you'r a prolific filmer and extraordinary pilot.

Does you fighter 'jitter' when you fly?
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Morpheus on February 19, 2006, 12:26:25 PM
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but they dont jitter like there are goin down a very bumpy road.


Yes they absolutely do.

You cant see this from a cockpit cam. But from a hand held digital camera there is plenty of bumps. Other times, not so much. Depending on air conditions.

You will almost certainly never simulate real true to life actual camera movements in any computer sim. The only thing that comes close to actual human movements in a sim is trackIR which inputs the movements from your head into the game thus adjusting views acordingly. Which makes for some killer films.

http://www.furballunderground.com/films/jtr.wmv

That is just one example of how "bumpy the road" can be up there. And I was doing my absolute best to hold this camera as rock solid as posible. The day was calm, no wind to speak of.
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Swarmed on February 19, 2006, 09:09:21 PM
Good film. There's a lot of cool stuff that can be done with LOMAC with videos.

Next film, I'd like to see some in cockpit action with missile launches, lock ons, and head movements.

And it's obvious you're trying to make money at this by making the American's have uber perked rides, and nerfing those (IRL) uber Russian rides. :p
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Morpheus on February 19, 2006, 09:38:19 PM
rofl, actually swarm, in all honesty... If  you set F14 AI's out on CAP/Intercept and they're armed with Aim54s' it turns into a turkey shoot... And the russians get pwned from 100 miles away.

As the title says, "first" so Im deffinatly all for requests.... They're alot of fun to make, and the more-different ideas the better.
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Bogie603rd on February 21, 2006, 12:02:18 PM
Like I said earlier in this post, "Submit it for an intro to LOMAC";)
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Morpheus on February 21, 2006, 12:06:06 PM
hehe, well i will be the first to admit that its not good enough for something like that. maybe down the road when I come out with something else that is far better than this I would think about that. but there are alot of VERY good film makers for lock-on... The competition is far stiffer than AH's. The best AH film looks elementry compared to some mediocre lock-on films.
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Bogie603rd on February 23, 2006, 10:02:47 AM
Well, you could try submitting it, they might just trim some of the scenes of formations out. Plus... how can you expect AH film makers to be better when WWII pilots only had black & white cameras stuck in the nose of their planes. Who knows what all junk other than oil hit the nose while flying?:p :aok
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Gianlupo on February 25, 2006, 01:57:35 PM
Morph, nicely done, as always. I'm sure you'll make great movies with Lomac :)

Just one thing: I see your point about camera bumping, but I think you put in too much jittering. A military jet plane is heavier and more stable than a biplane. Just my .02 $
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Bogie603rd on February 27, 2006, 10:38:57 AM
Lol Gian, it seems you charge extra for "useless info":rofl
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Gianlupo on February 27, 2006, 10:53:05 AM
:confused: Sorry I didn't get it.....
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Kermit de frog on February 27, 2006, 01:38:23 PM
0.02 $ is equal to $0.02 which is equal to 2 cents.


:D :D :D
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Gianlupo on February 27, 2006, 01:44:48 PM
Well, don't you say "my 2 cent" when you want to tell someone your humble opinion?

[I hate this cultural misunderstandings! :p]
Title: My first Lock-on film
Post by: Bogie603rd on February 28, 2006, 09:41:08 AM
lol Gian, are you THAT desperate for 2 brass pennies? Why dont you go hog a few from some 6 year old on the streets?:aok