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Title: tracers....
Post by: ridley1 on February 16, 2006, 04:23:12 PM
branching off from the collision thread....

forgive me but I'm not sure who said it but one line was

"especially with tracers off"

what are the pros and cons of tracers on/off?
Title: tracers....
Post by: hitech on February 16, 2006, 04:44:01 PM
Pros: Off

You do not tip the enemy off to your shot if they do not know you are there.

You will learn a steadier aim, hence more bullets on target with tracers off.
(i.e. you tend not to follow your tracers)


Con.
You have no ideaction of where the lead point is.
Title: tracers....
Post by: Meatwad on February 16, 2006, 04:49:07 PM
I always flew with my tracers off
Title: tracers....
Post by: bigsky406 on February 16, 2006, 04:54:33 PM
Basically tracers work both ways.

You see where your bullets are going.
They see where your bullets are coming from.
Title: tracers....
Post by: DadRabit on February 16, 2006, 04:59:37 PM
tracers off......

as said above, it betters ur aim, makes u a better gunner plus u get a second chance if u miss   :D

same thing goes for gv's and field guns.   turn em off.  u not a threat if they not see u  :D

S!
Title: tracers....
Post by: Schatzi on February 16, 2006, 05:22:21 PM
Turned tracers off. Was a hard time at first.

Turned tracers back on. Hit% dropped from a steady 7-9 to 1.5.



TRACERS OFF!!!!!!
Title: tracers....
Post by: Bear76 on February 16, 2006, 05:28:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Pros: Off

You do not tip the enemy off to your shot if they do not know you are there.

You will learn a steadier aim, hence more bullets on target with tracers off.
(i.e. you tend not to follow your tracers)


Con.
You have no ideaction of where the lead point is.


ideaction?
Title: tracers....
Post by: zorstorer on February 16, 2006, 05:30:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bear76
ideaction?



Combine "Idea" and "Action" = Ideaction :D


Not sure why HT would do this but it makes sense ;)
Title: tracers....
Post by: hitech on February 16, 2006, 06:24:12 PM
Me either, not sure what I edit to make that word, was supose to be just idea.
Title: tracers....
Post by: Saintaw on February 16, 2006, 06:33:30 PM
You just r_trim(idea, action)ed  ;

:D :p
Title: tracers....
Post by: ROC on February 16, 2006, 06:50:06 PM
Not sure which is worse.  The  Grand PooBah of AH making up words, or my reading over it, understanding it, not realizing it Wasn't a word until it was brought up  :huh
Title: tracers....
Post by: TexMurphy on February 16, 2006, 06:52:13 PM
HT you forgot a disadvantage of having tracers turned off...

Hard to force enemies into manouvering. With tracers on you can fire a few burst their way when they are out running you and they might panic and manouver, allowing you to catch them. This cant be done without tracers.

Infact this is the only tracer functionality I miss... When I miss a shot I do know in 95% of the time if I aimed to close or too far from the enemy plane... the rest of the 5% go into the cathegory "shouldnt have pulled the trigger"...

Aim gets better without tracers, enemies dont know you are there untill you hit (or they see you) and views get less cluttered...

Tex
Title: tracers....
Post by: ThunderEGG on February 16, 2006, 07:02:11 PM
HiTech,

By chance did the President attend your school of spelling?:D
Title: Tracers
Post by: Patches1 on February 17, 2006, 04:38:23 AM
Get in close to your target and whether tracers are on, or off, you will kill him. I fly with tracers on...but I try to get very close before I shoot.
Title: tracers....
Post by: AWMac on February 17, 2006, 04:43:15 AM
Tracers on bed sheets or pillow covers that the 'ol Lady doesn't remember will get you Turfluffied!!!!

Ohhh wait we're talking Game here... Never Mind.

Mac
Title: tracers....
Post by: Mustaine on February 17, 2006, 10:20:02 AM
he meant iNdication...

i understanded it :p
Title: tracers....
Post by: dedalos on February 17, 2006, 10:24:56 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Me either, not sure what I edit to make that word, was supose to be just idea.


indication.  You proly changed indication to idea :rofl
Title: tracers....
Post by: Iceman24 on February 17, 2006, 10:38:25 AM
i was the person talking about tracers in that "collisions" thread. I was talking about HO's and that if I get in that position I generally won't fire in that position but if someone else trys to face shoot me, I generally just aim straight for the cockpit and shoot until they blow up and fly right through there debris, then I said since I don't use tracers it works well because they can't actually see mee firing, there is a small muzzle flash and if you look close you can see your brass bullet casings falling from the guns, but thats about it, nothing that you would ever notice in a dogfight
Title: tracers....
Post by: Ohio43 on February 17, 2006, 11:04:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by DadRabit
tracers off......

as said above, it betters ur aim, makes u a better gunner plus u get a second chance if u miss   :D

same thing goes for gv's and field guns.   turn em off.  u not a threat if they not see u  :D

S!


 Huh..I been playing the game for about 6 mos. and had tracers turned off. Planes dont have tracers, but gv's and field guns have them.  Is there a seperate place in the setup to turn gv's and field guns off?
Title: tracers....
Post by: Iceman24 on February 17, 2006, 11:17:51 AM
"Is there a seperate place in the setup to turn gv's and field guns off?"

oh thanks for posting that, reminded me of something i've been meaning to ask...  

I have tracers turned off, when I get in a field gun I can't see any tracers firing on my end, but I have had squaddies that tell me they CAN see my tracers, I'm wondering if somethings messed up on my end and I'm just not seeing them and you can't turn them off in gv's,  or if friendlies can see them for some reason... anybody else had this issue ?
Title: tracers....
Post by: DoKGonZo on February 17, 2006, 02:45:01 PM
You probably want tracers on when you start because the gunnery model does take time to get the hang of. Especially if you fly more than on plane.

Once you start getting kills semi-predictably turn tracers off. There will be a tendency to want to turn 'em back on at first because suddenly you aren't getting hits. Solution: drop convergence by 50 or 100 and move in closer for your shots.

Oh, and when you switch to having tracers off use a plane with lots of ammo for a week or two - because you'll be spraying a lot of lead as you adjust.
Title: tracers....
Post by: Lye-El on February 17, 2006, 05:58:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Iceman24
"Is there a seperate place in the setup to turn gv's and field guns off?"

oh thanks for posting that, reminded me of something i've been meaning to ask...  

I have tracers turned off, when I get in a field gun I can't see any tracers firing on my end, but I have had squaddies that tell me they CAN see my tracers, I'm wondering if somethings messed up on my end and I'm just not seeing them and you can't turn them off in gv's,  or if friendlies can see them for some reason... anybody else had this issue ?


GV tracers operate at whatever you have set for a plane or vice versa however you want to look at it. You turn them on or off in the same place you do for a plane.

If you have tracers on in a GV some people can't see their own tracers. Supposedly with a LCD monitor they show up. The problem seems to affect those of us that use CRT monitors. Some of us anyway.
Title: tracers....
Post by: OOZ662 on February 17, 2006, 08:52:38 PM
Any normal gun will NOT have tracers if they're turned off. MBT/Light Tank guns (not flak, M16, ect.) will still show a tracer for ranging purposes.