Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Oldman731 on February 17, 2006, 07:59:21 AM
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Checking the roster last night, I think the main reason for the bizarre numbers imbalance was the appearance of several Allied squadrons. Folks, this is a Very Good Thing. One of the factors I've always believed held this arena back was that people want to fly with their squadrons, and their squadrons fly in the MA. Getting them in here is worth putting up with some ganging.
To the squadron folks: Thank you very much for coming into AvA. Possibly some of you can cross-train on Axis planes, so that when the numbers are like they are last night, you can all agree to grab your favorite leather ride. Just a suggestion, I'm not terribly knowledgeable on how squadrons work. Anyway, it was good to see the participation.
- oldman
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I agree! Id love to see squad come in here and play. It also alot of fun to fight against squadmates.
On another note Oldman...with the coming of the new map, I had a question. Is it possible to see how many of each aircraft type are lost in an arena? If so, could that be used in future campaigns, to show the losses, and perhaps deplete pools of aircraft?
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It's kind of hard to entice others to go help the very people that insult them constantly on these boards, or channel 200.
Besides the Allies are a bunch of no skill weenies, who can't get organized.;)
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I think the fact that numbers are 41-14 and all the ducksford beagles are on the side with 41 illustrates, justifies and reinforces the insults.
78th eats worms:p
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Thanks for making my point.:aok
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Your welcome.
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Well, that exchange pretty much solidified me as an Allied flier.
The 4th FG Debden Eagles were there last night too, escorting the 78th in an airfield strike.
Oldman, we will continue to do missions in the AvA arena and will encourage our members to fly here as much as possible. However as to switching sides, I have done so on occasion here. And I must say that I prefer to fly and die as Allies rather than fly with the Axis who were clannish and more concerned with climbing to altitude and getting 2 or 3 on 1s than assisting someone with 2 or 3 on them.
The 4th FG is obviously an Allied squadron and we will continue to fly as allies. It seems to me that the Axis would be better served in getting organized and gaining more squadrons on their roster rather than proving once again that JG54 has less class than the elementary schools they are obviously still attending.
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Originally posted by Fencer51
Well, that exchange pretty much solidified me as an Allied flier.
Limp wristed, jelly bellied, weak kneed, loose boweled squads need all the solidifying they can get, glad I could help, Fencer.:D
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Originally posted by KONG1
Limp wristed, jelly bellied, weak kneed, loose bowled squads need all the solidifying the can get, glad I could help, Fencer.:D
Does the Librarian of your elementary school know you are hogging that computer?
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Originally posted by Fencer51
Does the Librarian of your elementary school know you are hogging that computer?
Quiet! It’s nap time.
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Originally posted by KONG1
I think the fact that numbers are 41-14 and all the ducksford beagles are on the side with 41 illustrates, justifies and reinforces the insults.
78th eats worms:p
Honestly Kong. I had no idea there was that kind of numbers difference last night. I logged on around 9:55 EST , and there were red dots all over the map. We had a missionarrangement with the 4th FG. jester had set it up but could not fly due to a family emergency. So I was scrambling to put something together since the 4th was ready to go, and the 78th was in the dark. I usually keep chnl 200 squelched , so if there was anything said about it there I wouldn't have seen it.
There was no shortage of LW on the first mission we flew. We were harrassed by 262s, and 109s well behind the front as we flew to the target. Our last two missions were also met with LW planes able to make runs on us as we were climbing out of our base. I have no idea when the big numbers disparity took place.
I don't get to fly as much as I like. Some of you have the luxury of spending a couple of hours here every night. Tuesdays , and Thursdays , are when I get to spend my time flying. Then it's usually an hour and a half max. So to be honest JG54s enjoyment is not high on my list of priorities.
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Originally posted by Shifty
Honestly Kong. ...
Honestly Shifty…
I’m just yanking your chain (the one between the waistband of your tutu and the biker wallet stuffed in your garter belt).
:)
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Originally posted by Shifty
It's kind of hard to entice others to go help the very people that insult them constantly on these boards, or channel 200.
Heh. Shifty, it's surprising to find that you are such a warm and sensitive geezer after all!
I suggest it shouldn't be looked at as "helping" any side, or any group of people on that side (or even any single person on that side). There can't be a lot of fun in flying a 3 v 1 - this is a way to improve your own experiences!
- oldman
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Re: Squadrons
To quote Martha, "It's a good thing..."
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Originally posted by KONG1
Honestly Shifty…
I’m just yanking your chain (the one between the waistband of your tutu and the biker wallet stuffed in your garter belt).
:)
I lost the wallet , some little girl stole it while I was painting my nails.:furious
I know your yanking my chain. I know I wouldn't want to be one of the 14 facing 41 as well. If I get a chance to fly and it's not a squad time I'll swap if the numbers are out of whack. I did it Sunday afternoon. I don't check the numbers much. Usually the Axis are aggressive and flying into Allied airspace, so it never occurs to me theres a balance problem. If I have to hunt for a fight , thats when I notice the sides are out of whack.
OM I agree except on squad nights. If it's squadnight for JG54 and they got a numbers advantage. No way in hell do I expect them to send over N7, or Kong , or Wildesau to help us. It's their squadnight to do their LW thing. Thats what squadnight is for. Same for us.
The balance issue can also be affected by the "I have to fly the side with the best plane crowd", as much as any squadron. Look and see who was over with the axis flying 109s, and 110s during the early days of this setup, and are now over flying late model spits every day. Or who was flying pick whatever uber allied plane you wish, and now can be found zipping around in a 262............You might want to start a thread informing those guys about the fun of flying a plane that's more of a challenge. That could also help bring balance to the arena.
To be honest though. You really can't blame anybody for what they fly. Or what side they fly for , or why they fly for that side, or that ride. It's their business , and their money. God I can't believe how much time I've wasted typing all this dribble.:huh
Tuesdays, and Thursdays the 78th FG will be Allied. Any other day I'll do what I can. There thats better already.
:)
Kong, OM, Fencer.
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When I log in, I always check the numbers and go to the side that has the lowest. Unless I'm going as cannon fodder in a bomber for some of Filth's bombing missions.
The LW side is always happy to see me, especially Storch (because he knows that he is safe from my superior flying abilities :) ).
Actually I suck at this game but have fun anyway.
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Shifty,
I'm here, I got your 6......though I'm not quite sure what's going on.:huh
And if it were not for my numbers alot of you guys would not be aces!
so and so shot you down
so and so shot you down
so and so shot you down
so and so shot you down
so and so shot you down
so and so shot you down
so and so shot you down
I'm certified as a HALO jumper now. :aok
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Originally posted by KONG1
I think the fact that numbers are 41-14 and all the ducksford beagles are on the side with 41 illustrates, justifies and reinforces the insults.
78th eats worms:p
Where the heck are the Latvians??? The Lento--Bean.... whatever squad... the heck did they run to? Go find out Kong
Sinker <>Axis Cruds
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Originally posted by XAKL
Where the heck are the Latvians??? The Lento--Bean.... whatever squad... the heck did they run to? Go find out Kong
It's 5 or 6 AM there when we're in primetime here. Get a clue stink.
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Ever notice how mediocre pilots do more fighting on the BBS than in the game:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by KONG1
It's 5 or 6 AM there when we're in primetime here. Get a clue stink.
Kong you monkey brain, your memory is bad as them primates. Just few weeks ago they were posting how they were dominating the AVA . I just haven't seen them since or their domination.
Sinker <>Axis Cruds
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Actually, Kong is right. It would be the morning hours in Latvia, when it is the prime time somewhere else in the world. But I haven't seen any Latvian squads, though...
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Originally posted by XAKL
Just few weeks ago they were posting how they were dominating the AVA . I just haven't seen them since or their domination.
Could be a quirk in timing, but . . .
My impressions have been a lot of different Allied flyers on who were no where to be seen when it was only Spit 1s and etc. Now that the "favorite rides" are in the AVA, just seems more (different) people flying allieds. And those that are flying are doing so with confidence and an aggressiveness that just wasn't there earlier.
Example, I personally didn't see (or maybe didn't notice) the 78th very much early on . . . saw them plenty last time I was on (at 41-14 odds). The axis "domination" that occurred earlier may never have occurred had such folks been on then in the numbers they seem to be more recently.
Now, did they really wait until the 51 was available to show up en mass? Or was it just perception / timing quirk on my part?
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880 FAA flew LW last night to help the numbers as did many other pilots when the imbalance was recognized. Note the term I used and I hope maybe a few people will learn a thing or two from it. Ask politely on ch200 and I am certain you will get a favorable response.
Where the heel do some of you lose sight of the fact that we play this game to have fun???
Oh yeah and Oldman, stop making mention of the Squadrons this isn't the kind of publicity we need. :D
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Squadrons are good, more would be nice, especially one or two more Axis squads.
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Originally posted by E25280
Could be a quirk in timing, but . . .
Example, I personally didn't see (or maybe didn't notice) the 78th very much early on . . . saw them plenty last time I was on (at 41-14 odds). The axis "domination" that occurred earlier may never have occurred had such folks been on then in the numbers they seem to be more recently.
We've been there every Tuesday , and Thursday, flying Allied no matter what the ride. In fact even before it was the AvA. We've flown more Spit I , and P-47 missions then anything else on squad nights. We dropped the Spits and Hurris as soon as the P-47 came out. So your theory that we are responsable for the numbers inbalance, or we didnt show until the P-51 came out doesn't hold water. If you havent seen us it may be due to fact we fly in this arena only. Or that JG54 was killing us off a lot more earlier on. There seems to be more targets for them now.
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sides imbalanced?? 99th FS go to the lowest number.
more targets! :aok
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Originally posted by Shifty
We've been there every Tuesday , and Thursday, flying Allied no matter what the ride . . . So your theory that we are responsable for the numbers inbalance, or we didnt show until the P-51 came out doesn't hold water.
That's why I qualified it as a possible quirk of timing. Should have added bad memory. Either way, wasn't meant as a dig . . . hope you didn't take it as such. Also didn't intend to imply it was "all your fault", although now that I re-read what I wrote I can see how it sounded that way.
Originally posted by Shifty
Or that JG54 was killing us off a lot more earlier on. There seems to be more targets for them now.
That was really the point I was trying to make. Seemed to be lots more allied than before. Thought additional squads might have had something to do with it. Some squads in the MA only fly certain planes, so I thought it was possible some additional squads came on because their "ride" is always the 51d or 47 or something.
I didn't know if that was the case for you guys or not, so thought I would ask. Thanks for the answer!
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The more that A vs A discussion becomes centered on squads, vulching and alt-monkeys, the less the differences are from CT-- 41 agin 14 isn't gonna bring in a lotta people
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Originally posted by E25280
That's why I qualified it as a possible quirk of timing. Should have added bad memory. Either way, wasn't meant as a dig . . . hope you didn't take it as such. Also didn't intend to imply it was "all your fault", although now that I re-read what I wrote I can see how it sounded that way.
That was really the point I was trying to make. Seemed to be lots more allied than before. Thought additional squads might have had something to do with it. Some squads in the MA only fly certain planes, so I thought it was possible some additional squads came on because their "ride" is always the 51d or 47 or something.
I didn't know if that was the case for you guys or not, so thought I would ask. Thanks for the answer!
Well one thing for certain. I'll keep an eye on numbers more now. Like I said in an earlier part of the thread. I didnt notice the numbers were out of whack. Maybe because I logged on late and was rushed to get us going. Plus we were being intercepted before we could get to where the map showed the fight to be.
I wouldn't like being on the recieving end of a 41 to 14 tidal wave myself.
I'll do what I can in the future to help out. We've struggled through this setup until just recently. Theres no use in denying the fact JG54 has cleaned our clocks a number of times, since we started this squad in the old CT in November.
After they lay a few hurtins on you, it doesn't enter your mind that they may be struggling , on the other side with numbers or anything else.
I understand OMs point that squads should try not to overwhelm the place with numbers. I'll try and follow the Gunfighters, and 880 FAA's example. I also understand how you may not have noticed us with our less then stellar performance thus far. We're working on it.
E25280
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Hello.
Just to let you peeps know, 249raf are flying on wednesdays and sundays 9pm UK time
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If i remember correctly, the jg44's did a 262 run the other day :aok