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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Gunzo on February 17, 2006, 09:26:26 PM
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I entered a dogfight in the DA today, and after a short but fairly good fight it had settled into a horizontal turn on the deck. We had similar aircraft, so it was going to take a while, but I was turning better and making small gains, and with the odd yo-yo thrown in I felt that a few more turns would bring the kill. That’s the nature of the Lufbery, with similar aircraft, once you are in one, it’s generally a fight to the death and the best option is to max perform your aircraft and hope you can do it better than the other guy, out turn him, take the shot and collect the pelt.
However, after a few turns the guy I was fighting came up on vox and said “is that all you can do”, “you can’t do anything but turn” and then he levelled off and tried to extend. To me it seemed like he was caught between a rock and a hard place. He could stay in the turn and eventually give me a close range deflection shot, or he could try to extend and use a standard guns defence. Of course the best option was to out turn me, but he couldn’t do it. So it looked like he opted for the second choice and as he extended I followed at around 500 and after a few short bursts killed him.
That’s when the fun started! He shouted that he had broken off the fight and that I shouldn’t have killed him. That’s when one of his Squad mates vulched me. So I took off again only to get vulched by another member of the same Squad on the runway. After getting airborne and trying to get the vulcher, I was vulched again by yet another member of the same Squad… there were maybe 5 of them all buzzing around the same base.
It took me a minute to figure out what was happening. I was being gangbanged by a Squad. So, I took off from another base and got a little revenge… Revenge is good! These guys didn’t like their own medicine and pretty soon I had all 5 of them chasing me around, plus one of their groupies.
So when they couldn’t kill me that way, they wanted to duel. So after duelling three of these guys, and killing them all, I was hearing every whine in the book. The best part is that in the last duel, exactly the same thing happened that I described in the beginning. I got into a lufbery that went around and around with a few small yo-yo’s and we eventually reached the deck, where I was gaining angles. You can tell how close I was too a shot in the turns because when he broke off I was only 250 behind and he died real quick. Once again, he had expected me to let him live because he had broken off the fight!
What’s wrong with that?
Well, these guys were members of the LTAR Squad and after I shot down the first one of them they reacted like playground bullies. After I killed them all, they behaved like cry babies.
I guess some squads have very low recruitment standards :)
Gunzo
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Have any film? Not being there myself to see what transpired I will reserve comment except to say the situation you describe when your caught in a low alt. turn fight was described in an article I read as "the first pilot to make a mistake dies"
I would like to see any films of these low alt. tun fights you have....or anyones for that matter.
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LTAR's in planes? No wonder... there's a reason they're a ground vehicle skwad.
:D
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:lol
Now that is an AAR.
When people (especially established MA skwads) start vulching you because you killed them trying to run from a duel, you're on the right path. :aok
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They kept on getting out-turned? Well of course that is whats going to happen when they put wings on a Panzer!
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:lol LTARs
You guys really need to mature. Duel it to the death and don't act like a banana when you lose because you can't fight. If you're going to break off the fight, you can clearly use for hand to hit F12 and say discontinue or something.:rolleyes:
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Sounds like sour grapes to me ... nice going ... you outflew him ... he deserved to get popped. There is no breaking off in the DA when in a duel ... you either survive or die.
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Yup, you won, they lost. Only rules are: Set a ceiling, agree on plane, guns, and fuel, an no HOs on the merge...
If there are a bunch of people, give a chk6 before engaging...
This running cus you are losing isn't a "rule", it doesn't even make sense.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
:lol
Now that is an AAR.
No kidding! especially from a first time poster!
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How can you expect the LTAR to behave correctly in the DA ?
you believe in miracle ?
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Originally posted by Brenjen
I would like to see any films of these low alt. tun fights you have....
I have an excellent film of one of those fights from start to finish, well worth watching!
The merge, the eventual lufbery, the break off, and a pretty good kill shot, followed by the guy complaining about it. I just watched it and I notice that after he broke off, he didn't just level off, he was executing evasive maneuvers, as though he too believed it was still "fights on". His name was Maxis780.
Since I'm naming names, the one who started it all with the "I broke off" whining was LTARkilz, with backup vulching by SEtate, and Maxis780 they even had a cheerleader JK566.
Now how can I post this film? I can't figure it out, are there any free file hosting services that are easy to use and link to that you guys recommend?
Gunzo
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Now that is an AAR.
Originally posted by Waffle BAS
No kidding! especially from a first time poster!
and your real ingame gameid name is?
2 post............killing everyone you encounter.........hook not big enough for me....... regardless of film or no film
welcome to the AH messageboards if ya new, enjoy the community :aok
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Whats your ingame name?
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There is no crying in basball...
gatr
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# of posts on the BBS has nothing to do with anything. Film of one encounter is better than no film at all & I for one would like to see it for one reason as a learning tool, for another secondary reason, as proof of claims. There are plenty of free hosting sites out there....just do a search here & you'll see what others are using. If you can't find one...P.M. me & I'll give you an E-mail addy to send it too. That goes for anyone who has good low level turn fights on film. I enjoy watching them almost as much as playing the game.
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Etiquette? in a fight? oh brother.
i was in a 1v1 other night, we ended up on the deck in a Lufbery, forget what plane v plane, i was riding the stall, horn never shut off, i was gaining angles, just a little more and i would have a shot, ............then..........my wing ............hit a tree..................
was laughing so much, had to take a break.
MAG44
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I'd start filming more, but I'm more likely to get footage of me embarrassing MYSELF than making the other guy look bad. :D
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If you post your film Gunzo,you may wanna delete some of the text.
I was in there that evening when this occured and you seemed to be taunting them alot and lots of name calling.Just so you dont come off trying to sound like a martyr or victim here.You have good E management and the 2 times I fought you were game,but after myself and zaphod beat you ,you wouldnt fight us any longer.So it seems to me that you picked a fight with them after you vulched LTARKIlz on the take off.I've reviewed the film I have of the incident and it appears that you would extend beyond a reasonable distance and wait for them to break off then come in on them when they got into another fight.At one point in the film you stated you were getting some distance but you were completely out of icon range with them at the time,which puts you over 6k away.I understand the concept of extending but there's a certain distance that at which you are no longer extending but running.
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Well, I'm not going for the LTAR bashing party, I've always found them to be good people. However, the only times you get an out from me in a duel is if you are out of ammo or out of fuel. And normally, I'd think you'd check that sort of thing before you go starting a duel. But still. If they let me know they are bingo on one or the other, I let them go.
Thats just my personal rules. From what I've seen of the rest of ya, its fight to the death. They should have expected that from the start, or asked for specific rules before engaging. They didnt, so they got what they deserved. Just my .02
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Ok, here is the film:
http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gunzo/film53b.zip
Hope that works...
Gunzo
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The Ltars make a fun fight because they don't quit but they do use about any gamey thing they can think of.
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Originally posted by VIC
If you post your film Gunzo,you may wanna delete some of the text.
The worst thing I said was calling them “LTARDS”… I wouldn’t delete that, because the ones I came in contact with were.
I was in there that evening when this occured and you seemed to be taunting them alot and lots of name calling.
As I said, there were five of them, and they were using bully tactics to vulch and gangbang me, they started it and I was pretty miffed. The LTARD comments seemed appropriate at the time.
I've reviewed the film I have of the incident and it appears that you would extend beyond a reasonable distance and wait for them to break off then come in on them when they got into another fight.
Yep, but at that point I was after revenge flying a Tempest against them and they were chasinig me in mostly Spit16s and a 262 so there was a lot of running involved, but the important thing was that I killed and frustrated them enough to get to duel them without getting vulched by their buddies.
You have good E management and the 2 times I fought you were game,but after myself and zaphod beat you ,you wouldnt fight us any longer.So it seems to me that you picked a fight with them after you vulched LTARKIlz on the take off.
Ok, this is one of the major problems in the DA, you saw me vulch LTARkilz, but that was in revenge after I’d already been vulched several times by them after the stunt I posted earlier. The problem is, you only had part of the picture, you only noticed once the retaliation was under way.
As for our fights, I enjoyed them, I like to try lots of different planes, and I start duels even when I’m low on E having just left a fight, or when I’m flying an inferior aircraft because I think it is good practice, I don’t care much if I win or lose, it is the experience and practice that I value. I really wanted to fight you and Zaphod a lot more, but the LTARS and their silly antics spoiled my fun, and it seems in the DA that is the way of things. Don’t worry Creton, I will be there often, but slightly earlier, and I’m looking forward to many more good fights with you.
Gunzo
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If the rules are not stated, than it is a FFA. I have declared "no ammo', no feul or landing & got a way with it. A couple of times I still got blew out of the sky, 'The way I see it -kill or be killed-' :noid
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After seeing the post from VIC above, who flys in the arena as Creton, I've been keeping an eye out for him in the DA to give him the fights I promised him in my previous response to him here...
He was there this evening, and amazingly he did exactly the same thing as the LTAR guys did... Here is what happened.
After some relatively easy fights, during which I was cleaning his clock, (and filming of course) we got into the duel posted below.
This fight goes all the way to the deck because we eventually get stuck in a Lufbery, and once again I start gaining both energy and angles. As the fight goes around, and I'm just thinking that I'm going to soon get a shot, he breaks of and runs... I come out of my turn 400 behind him and take a few shots to try and force him to turn back. As he break turns back into me I get an easy kill.
This is almost an exact duplicate of the LTAR shame...
http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gunzo/film66b.zip
True, he never tried to claim the fight was off, as the LTARS did, and he took the death in good grace, as he did the previous five times, but it is an amazing coincidence that this fight mirrors the previous one I posted and as the end drew near, and he sensed his imminent death, he reacted like an LTAR :)
Gunzo
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Gunzo,
These were good fights and while I am easy to kill and never have claimed to be good in dogfights,I always try to give a good fight,the best that I can.What yoour film doesnt show is the fact that after we were in your "luftberry"I was outta WEP outta alt.and bearly haveing enough E to stay flying.I decided that after 25 circles or so an no obvious advantage or diasadvantage was being seen,I decided that without WEP and no speed to maneuver,to break out and hope to extend beyond your range of fire to gain enough E to get advantage.I'm sure that this is a mistake to do but with no other option,this is all I could do.I'm also sure that a more experienced pilot wouldnt have put hisself in this situation.But until 3:53 into the film which is when I decided to try this ,there was no guns solution from either of us.I dont know what you hope to gain by bashing me or another pilot in here for that matter,The film proves nothing about weather I did the same exact thing as was your complaint against the LTARS,as intentional thing or just a coincidence.I saluted you for the kill,of which you never saluted me for the 3 times I killed you.So all in all.I've wasted as much time responding to your witch hunt whiney post as you did posting it in the first place.
On a different note though you have the same atitude and flying style as the flier"BADBOY" and we both know I've cleaned that clock plenty of times.
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grab me sometime gunzo.
we'll DA.
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Lute, I wouldn't waste your time with this "gunzo" guy. Just ignore him and maybe he'll go away.
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My guys don't go to the DA and vulch people. A lot of times we go their and try new tactics and attempt to prcatice amongst ourselves. Your right, we arn't the greatest fiter pilots in the game, as a matter of fact most of us really stink in a fighter:huh
If you wanna jump on the BB's and complain about our squad be my guest, but you'll prob be making a fool of yourself. You call my guys LTARD's and they will bury ya.
On a little side note to answer Rabidrabbit, you're right about we don't give up and we always try to provide a "fun" fight, but to say WE do the "gamey" thing? I think you bumbed your head. You wanna see "gamey" go watch Fortress in bombers.
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Originally posted by MOIL
My guys don't go to the DA and vulch people.
Ohh yes they do, and if they tell you other wise it just shows they lack honesty as well as skill. When they are there in numbers they act like bully boys and vulch in a gang.
You call my guys LTARD's and they will bury ya.
LOL... hasn't happened yet and I was fighting them 5 at a time! So bring it on!
When I flew them one at a time they pulled the tricks shown in the first film above, then when I killed them they got all bent and twisted over it and started vulching. Your squad started this, and I'm in the process of finishing it, so far the score is LTARDS 0 Gunzo 25.
As long a your squad use numbers to bully folk in the DA, you are all fair game. Hope you enjoy hunting season as much as I do!
Gunzo
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lol ltarmoil
I remember back when all your squad would do is go to DA sit in flaks or m16s vulch runways. did it over and over till HTC put stop to it. If I remeber you responce then it was getting even.. which was BS they were changing to fields guys would try to duel at. asked to stop would say make us lol....
"Squad with no honor from the top has none at the bottom"
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Originally posted by MOIL
My guys don't go to the DA and vulch people. A lot of times we go their and try new tactics and attempt to prcatice amongst ourselves. Your right, we arn't the greatest fiter pilots in the game, as a matter of fact most of us really stink in a fighter:huh
If you wanna jump on the BB's and complain about our squad be my guest, but you'll prob be making a fool of yourself. You call my guys LTARD's and they will bury ya.
On a little side note to answer Rabidrabbit, you're right about we don't give up and we always try to provide a "fun" fight, but to say WE do the "gamey" thing? I think you bumbed your head. You wanna see "gamey" go watch Fortress in bombers.
.........Jack just left town.
Karaya
PS - these "Holier than Thou" posts are old.
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Originally posted by VIC
What yoour film doesnt show is the fact that after we were in your "luftberry"I was outta WEP outta alt.and bearly haveing enough E to stay flying.
Yep, I was out of WEP too and we started Co-E so your loss of energy was entirely due to poor energy management.
I decided that after 25 circles or so an no obvious advantage or diasadvantage was being seen
Not true, firstly it wasn't that many circles (watch the film) and I was gaining energy very nicely, managing my E with the intention of converting it into angles for the kill, and it was working perfectly.
I'm sure that this is a mistake to do but with no other option, this is all I could do. I'm also sure that a more experienced pilot wouldnt have put his self in this situation.
Yep, you were out of energy, out of options, and when you reached into your clue bag, that was empty too... lol.
I dont know what you hope to gain by bashing me or another pilot in here for that matter.
Well go back and read your original post, you came in here stating that you and Zaphod had killed me, and I was afraid to fight you, and that I then went looking for trouble with the LTARDS. You were wrong on every point.
I saluted you for the kill, of which you never saluted me for the 3 times I killed you.
That's because you didn't kill me 3 times, it was only 2 and one of those was when I hit a tree that jumped in front of me :) But I have all the films and the 5 times I killed you were all amusing considering how you came into this thread.
On a different note though you have the same atitude and flying style as the flier "BADBOY"
Never seen him, or even heard of him, but if you want to start a conspiracy theory, you could at least mistake me for someone good!
Anyway, next time, try to at least get your facts straight!
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Gunzo
Never seen him, or even heard of him, but if you want to start a conspiracy theory, you could at least mistake me for someone good!
Anyway, next time, try to at least get your facts straight!
Gunzo
badboy is one of the few people in this game that really is an ace. he isnt as good with turnfighting otd as some others, but his energy management and his flying in general is among the best in the game. better than you i would dare to say
in our fights yesterday, with a little less e than you, i was still able to keep my guns pointed in your direction, although i stalled before i could get any solid hits. badboy combines that kind of e management with ACM's, so i find it very difficult to stick with him
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<---- Not going to bite the hook on this troll... 3 kills this tour in 32 minutes and single-digit posts on the BBS.... Now, I don't want to insinuate a shade account , but man, this sure stinks like one...
On a side note... I saw someone in the DA last nite with the squad name "LTARD Killer". I don't know if this was our man gunzo, but if it was, that would be enough to tick me off if I was an LTAR. No dice here...
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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
Lute, I wouldn't waste your time with this "gunzo" guy. Just ignore him and maybe he'll go away.
naw, I wanna see what he's got.
who knows? maybe he'll get a nod in my "best pilot in AH" post in another thread. only one way to find out.
(p.s. yeah, obvious troll. still wanna DA 'em tho. I luv' a fight)
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Gunzo,
If your question is about rules in the DA, the answer is, yes there can be rules against others. You just need to communicate with them and ask and read any messages as you come into the arena. If you want no rules, go to the MA.
If you intent is to show others how well you can turn in a spitfire, yes you do this well. What is working is you are getting them into a low stall fight. You are pulling less Gs then your opponent letting him get near a guns solution. This makes him try to pull a bit harder, burning more E then you. IF you wait them out, you will make the kill or make them auger. This method works better with a little intimidation. If you can get them mad at you, they try harder only to be taken into your trap. Well done.
If you are new, there are 50 other planes to learn and the spitfire is only one. This method will not work as well against other aircraft, so expand you skills by learning other ways of fighting. You can play this game and make friends at the same time with other styles of flying.
Gunner
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Originally posted by rod367th
lol ltarmoil
I remember back when all your squad would do is go to DA sit in flaks or m16s vulch runways. did it over and over till HTC put stop to it. If I remeber you responce then it was getting even.. which was BS they were changing to fields guys would try to duel at. asked to stop would say make us lol....
"Squad with no honor from the top has none at the bottom"
Rod, I think you have my guys confused with another squad or group. We just recently started going to the TA & DA to train and practice. I have talked to every single guy in my squad (except one, he's on vacation) and they all said the same thing....what???? If what you state is true I'd love to see some film or some names. If it were any of my guys then they have my boot comin'.
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Ok, yesterday I turned up in the DA again and was having fun in an F4U1 and I was duelling with Spits and Ki84s etc and I duelled and shot down a guy called airvent. Now killing Spits in an F4U1 in a slow turnfight is a lot of fun, but airvent didn't like it and so we went to another field where he insisted on flying the SpitV. That was cool, but I've never flow the SpitV before so it took a couple of fights before I got the feel of it.
While we were fighting a guy called Dedalos turned up and so the three of us went at it... A lot of fun was had by everyone accept airvent, because after I killed him a several times in a row he refused to fight me anymore. He wouldn't even talk to me. I guess he was just sulking.
Anyway, here is the good part!!
Similar thing as the other two films happened against Dedalos, but this time the fight was mostly vertical. At the merge was faster than me, so he started with an energy advantage, but he just plumb turned himself out of energy, while I used mine wisely. Once he saw I was all over his six and would soon have a shot, he decided to try and leave the fight... The end of this fight is exactly the same as the others posted so far.
http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gunzo/film57.zip
Enjoy!
Gunz
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Ive always found the LTARs to be a stand up bunch and a fun fight.
Airvent and Dedalos refused to fight you eh? wow, a true killer you must be.:rolleyes:
I smell bull****
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Originally posted by WMLute
naw, I wanna see what he's got.
who knows? maybe he'll get a nod in my "best pilot in AH" post in another thread. only one way to find out.
(p.s. yeah, obvious troll. still wanna DA 'em tho. I luv' a fight)
Ok maybe this will show you what I've got. I notice in that "best pilot in AH" thread the guy in this next film gets mentioned several times.
These are fights that took place yesterday and they ain't no energy fights... These fights are more like a knife fight in a phone booth... we get down and dirty, the kills are quick and clean!
Enjoy
http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gunzo/Turnsondeck.zip
Gunzo
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like slash, i too smell BS, gunzo, you havent spoken on vox, and you know more than most people about dogfighting, and all that with 9 posts and very little MA time, combined with the fact i have never seen you before makes it obvious that you are a shade account.
whether you have a shade account because of being away from the game and you deleted your account, or whether it's that you are trying to annoy people, you are digging your own grave here, arguing with everyone
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Originally posted by Pooface
badboy is one of the few people in this game that really is an ace. he isnt as good with turnfighting otd as some others,
In that case I'm better than him, check out the films in the Turnsondeck.zip file to see that I'm not just good with energy, I can shift the nose around quick too when I need to.
in our fights yesterday, with a little less e than you, i was still able to keep my guns pointed in your direction, although i stalled before i could get any solid hits.
Pooface, correct me if I'm wrong, but I watched you fighting airvent and dedalos yesterday and they were using you for target practice. When I flew against you I don't recall taking a single hit while killing you a couple of times. Then I killed both of them several times each while we were all fighting in SpitVs, good hard knife fights.
Letting you ALMOST get a shot is the whole point :)
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Pooface
whether you have a shade account because of being away from the game and you deleted your account, or whether it's that you are trying to annoy people, you are digging your own grave here, arguing with everyone
Talking of graves, I left you in a smoking hole in the ground a couple of times yesterday, before some real competition turned up. You were probably the easiest kills of the day.. lol.
Gunz Gunz Gunz!!
Sorry, what was your point again?
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Slash27
Airvent and Dedalos refused to fight you eh? wow, a true killer you must be.:rolleyes:
Nope, re-read the post... This time read slowly... Only airvent refused to fight after getting killed several times in a row. Dedalos continued to fight until I had to log.
Gunzo
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errrr, no, you are obviously clueless
i was fighting dedalos and BCCroyal earlier, and then stang and yucca. dedalos got me a bit at the start, but after 4 or 5 fights i learned how to get around his attacks and i started winning a lot more after that, and i killed royal just as much as he killed me
stang and yucca, i both killed multiple times. i'd dare to say i beat them, but i know that they could beat me if they really tried. and also, i hit your wingtip many times, and the only reason i missed your pit is because you are an energy potato
thats the thing, the good sticks go to the DA to escape from the MA and to have fun, without needing to worry about dying
thats the thing with you, you always want to win, and want to make a name for yourself, despite having no friends and not flying in the MA. thats pretty much what you are, a try hard loser. up until now i thought you were ok, but trying to tell me that im crap, is well, wrong really. you were falling for basic rolling scissor starters, and you would have died on your knees to my spit if you hadnt climbed and become a cherry picking energy potato.
so yeah, STFU, you've just got everyone to turn against you lol
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Originally posted by Gunzo
Ok maybe this will show you what I've got. I notice in that "best pilot in AH" thread the guy in this next film gets mentioned several times.
Gunzo
don't think there is a name worth noting in that thread that I have not killed in a straight up 1 on 1. and not just once, but many times. (in fairness the reverse is true as well. I have died to most those names, not just once, but many times)
big deal. i've killed giants, and been killed by noobs.
only way ya' gonna prove anything to me is to fight me. then I can tell ya' how "good" you are.
a great benifit of running the King of the Hill is it allows me to fight some of the best in the game, and watch them fight. I have spent countless hours as a host watching (and flying against) great pilots. I am a pretty good judge of "skill", so this will prove to be most fun.
we'll DA soon.
lookin' forward to it.
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Its still the same bs
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Originally posted by ClevMan
[BOn a side note... I saw someone in the DA last nite with the squad name "LTARD Killer". I don't know if this was our man gunzo, but if it was, that would be enough to tick me off if I was an LTAR. No dice here... [/B]
Yep that was me, but I created that squad AFTER they started their dweebery, and trust me they richly deserve it.
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Slash27
Its still the same bs
Watch the films man, they can't BS!
Gunzo
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Originally posted by WMLute
don't think there is a name worth noting in that thread that I have not killed in a straight up 1 on 1. and not just once, but many times. (in fairness the reverse is true as well. I have died to most those names, not just once, but many times)
big deal. i've killed giants, and been killed by noobs.
only way ya' gonna prove anything to me is to fight me. then I can tell ya' how "good" you are.
a great benifit of running the King of the Hill is it allows me to fight some of the best in the game, and watch them fight. I have spent countless hours as a host watching (and flying against) great pilots. I am a pretty good judge of "skill", so this will prove to be most fun.
we'll DA soon.
lookin' forward to it.
he just keeps e and picks, he's a total dweeb. you'd beat him flying left handed
stupid kid
infact i reckon it's lanXXXX number whatever back from stupid WW2OL after being rejected there too
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Originally posted by WMLute
we'll DA soon.
lookin' forward to it.
I don't think I've ever seen you in the game, what name do you fly under?
I'll look out for you, should get some good film :)
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Gunzo
I don't think I've ever seen you in the game, what name do you fly under?
I'll look out for you, should get some good film :)
Gunzo
he flies as WMLute, which proves that you dont fly in the MA, and you aren't a member of this community, you're just some noob that's trying to look cool, and make like you're a hotshot, uber l33t pileit, because you seek a refuge from RL, where you have no friends because of this stupid attitude of yours
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Originally posted by Pooface
he just keeps e and picks, he's a total dweeb. you'd beat him flying left handed
Then watch the films in the Turnsondeck.zip file I just posted a couple of messages back, pure knife fights... But as I said you way easier to kill than that.
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Gunzo
I don't think I've ever seen you in the game, what name do you fly under?
I'll look out for you, should get some good film :)
Gunzo
lol you must not fly ever on wed. evenings, 'bout 7-9pm. EST
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Originally posted by Pooface
he flies as WMLute, which proves that you dont fly in the MA, and you aren't a member of this community, you're just some noob that's trying to look cool, and make like you're a hotshot, uber l33t pileit, because you seek a refuge from RL, where you have no friends because of this stupid attitude of yours
LOL I think we have a hot one here...
Problem is Pooface, you are talking the talk, but you can't walk the walk.
Talk to me when they let you take the kiddy wheels off your Spitfire :)
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Gunzo and edited by witness to reflect reality
Ok, yesterday I turned up in the TA and was having fun (trolling) in a Spit VIII.
After Ren told me I was just an average I got pissed at whole world and decided that guy called Airvent which was in 109 F-4 should pay for my misery. Even though I had 2k alt advantage fight didn't went as I wanted it to, so I have excused myself of having 100% of fuel. Airvent switched to Spit VIII and augered in first fight. He won all consequent fights but I denied this ever happened and challenged him to DA.
I took Spit XVI and got waxed. I took Spit V and got waxed. And again, and again and again. To save my face I've told him it's my first time in Spit V and call him a HOer and some other names.
I couldn't get him in fair fight so I HOED him twice, cause he sucks and because I'm a BADBOY. Then he refused to duel me anymore. He wouldn't even talk to me. I guess he was just sulking.
Then I've decided to fight Dedalos because he was tired and because I needed my revenge after he also killed me several times. Later on I continued to be an prettythang and continue to pester others. I'm great. I'm the best.
Films, please! I wanna see your great flying.
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Ok, just posting a couple of new films, and just to tidy things up, I'm posting all the links together in one message.
Here is the original film that shows the Ltars doing their thing.
http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gunzo/film53b.zip
Similar thing done by Creton, but with a little more style and good grace.
http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gunzo/film66b.zip
Yet again, only this time the fight was more vertical, and against Dedalos who was good, but probably just trying too hard.
http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gunzo/film57.zip
Two good fights on the deck, showing pure knife fights and almost complete disregard for energy for a quick kill by both Dedalos and myself.
http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gunzo/Turnsondeck.zip
This is a new one, hasn’t been posted before but shows the same type of knife fight as those in the previous film, just against Creton instead of Dedalos.
http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gunzo/Turnsondeck.zip
I won't post films of the kills on Pooface, because they were too easy and I don't want to embarrass him.
Gunzo
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you dont want to post films of kills on me because you know you had way more e every fight than me, and because i gave you a good run for your money even in the circumstances, scoring several hits
you are a dweeb with a bad attitude, and you've made yourself a lot of enemies in a day lol
just shut up and go some place else, you're a lame smack talking dweeb, who keeps his e well, but only fights if he has the advantage, and parades himself as being a great pilot.
lol, just give it a break. i gotta admit though, you would make a good comedian :aok
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Films, please! I wanna see your great flying.
I'm telling you, airvent died everywhere I flew him, and we only went to DA because after I'd used up 300 rounds of ammo on his plane in the TA he got a little .303 ping and claimed it would have killed me.
So off we went to the DA where he died so often he started sulking... and I mean real tears :)
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Pooface
just shut up and go some place else, you're a lame smack talking dweeb, who keeps his e well, but only fights if he has the advantage, and parades himself as being a great pilot.
You obviously haven't watched the films :)
Now try not to get any more excited, it would be a shame if you had a coronary before reaching puberty :)
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Gunzo
I'm telling you, airvent died everywhere I flew him, and we only went to DA because after I'd used up 300 rounds of ammo on his plane in the TA he got a little .303 ping and claimed it would have killed me.
So off we went to the DA where he died so often he started sulking... and I mean real tears :)
Gunzo
gunzo, you are full of s**t. airvent is a great pilot and a gentleman, so saying he went of sulking is total balls. you alone cannot take on this community, infact, you're just making it harder for yourself. you are a joke and people here see you for that.
good day, this thread requires no more of my attention. it's just a lame recognition request from some stuck up, rude tard
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Originally posted by Gunzo
You obviously haven't watched the films :)
Now try not to get any more excited, it would be a shame if you had a coronary before reaching puberty :)
Gunzo
lol, when i hit puberty??? hahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha haah LOL!
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
FYI, i am older than you, and even if it is only by a small amount, i am vastly more mature lol
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Well this is all entertaining to say the least. I don't know who this "gunzo" guy is, nor do I care.
The LTAR's have, will and can stand on thier own two feet. We are not a squad of uber leet virtual pilots, never claimed to be and definately don't run around calling people names or putting them down.
We poke fun and cut up just like the next guy, but anyone that knows us knows it's all in fun and we don't make it personal. It's a game!!!
If said individual wants to make up a bunch of garbage & run his mouth about my squad feel free.
Pooface, Slash, Dedalos, WMLute, Rod, Creaton and many others are well respected in the community and good sticks to boot, they know BS when they read it.
Gentleman
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Originally posted by MOIL
Well this is all entertaining to say the least. I don't know who this "gunzo" guy is, nor do I care.
The LTAR's have, will and can stand on thier own two feet. We are not a squad of uber leet virtual pilots, never claimed to be and definately don't run around calling people names or putting them down.
We poke fun and cut up just like the next guy, but anyone that knows us knows it's all in fun and we don't make it personal. It's a game!!!
If said individual wants to make up a bunch of garbage & run his mouth about my squad feel free.
Pooface, Slash, Dedalos, WMLute, Rod, Creaton and many others are well respected in the community and good sticks to boot, they know BS when they read it.
Gentleman
moil. the ltar's may not be great pilots but they are fun to fly against. whenever i fly over a bish base and see a flak up, i stay well away, it's usually one of your lot with their robotic aim! lol
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Bro
Thanks:D
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Originally posted by MOIL
If said individual wants to make up a bunch of garbage & run his mouth about my squad feel free.
Either your squad are being less than honest with you, or you are in denial. Watch the first film... For taking a kill like that against LTARkilz I was vulched mercilessly by other members of your squad... But only until I figured out what was happening.
Now the boot is on the other foot, and your squad are paying the price. I'm racking up the kills against your bullies at a satisfying rate.
To all the dweebs out there... Remember, vulching doesn't pay, you might end up like the Ltards.
Now because I'm a reasonable man, I'm going to offer your squad salvation... Go speak to your bully boys, and if they have even a few vertebrae among them, they will fess up and admit vulching me. Then come back here and post an apology.
Otherwise I'll assume they actually enjoying being my squeaky toys!
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Pooface
gunzo, you are full of s**t. airvent is a great pilot and a gentleman, so saying he went of sulking is total balls. you alone cannot take on this community, infact, you're just making it harder for yourself. you are a joke and people here see you for that.
good day, this thread requires no more of my attention. it's just a lame recognition request from some stuck up, rude tard
Did not bother reading the thread. i just happened to see the names Gunzo and Airvent. All I can say is that Air would own you anytime you decided to fight a fair fight. The rest is whaaa whaaa whaa.
When I fought you, I noticed something very familiar. Same merges and same reaction after losing (comming in fast instead of co-e). I really could not tell who it was untill you started going with Creton. Then it became obvius.
You are BadBoy. One of the most abusive sore losers I have ever met in the DA. Apparently, HT is paing your training account so you cannot be abusive using the BadBoy handle so created a new one.
Bottom line is, after several complains by several people to HT about BadBoy, HT is paing him to abuse their customers under a different name
And training corps:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by dedalos
When I fought you, I noticed something very familiar. Same merges and same reaction after losing (comming in fast instead of co-e). I really could not tell who it was untill you started going with Creton. Then it became obvius.
You are BadBoy. One of the most abusive sore losers I have ever met in the DA. Apparently, HT is paing your training account so you cannot be abusive using the BadBoy handle so created a new one.
Bottom line is, after several complains by several people to HT about BadBoy, HT is paing him to abuse their customers under a different name
And training corps:rolleyes:
Wow, dedalos........... (from the training corps) :rolleyes:
I don't know this gunzo person, nor have I ever met him online best I can recall. If ya got a bone to pick with badboy, he is a bigboy and can take care of himself, I am sure win or lose! besides his shades account doesn't start with the letter G ;)
But don't slam the trainer's corp and please don't slam HT/HTC, most everyone(edit change <----this to a couple or few ) in this thread has at some point in time had the whiney arse attitude, wether it was 5 years ago or yesterday........and most (edit change <----this to a couple or few ) run that pie-hole just the same as they always did or have or still do, including some... well that doesn't matter here......
btw.... I had a shades account for 2 weeks once.......I made it just for Mugzee :D
no offense peoples, I called it a TROLL on the first page, a few might have got hooked a lil too deep in the mouth on this one. lol
and edit: Sorry Dedalos, I would appreciate it if ya ever have a problem with anything to do with a Trainer or the Trainer's corp to address us in private or email HTC about it please. Not saying you have a problem now, just saying if anyone ever does.... blasting away at us in open forum isn't a good way to go about it in my opinion...not good for the community
~S~ All :aok
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who the heck if badboy?
he a trainer or something?
never hear of 'em.
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Originally posted by dedalos
When I fought you, I noticed something very familiar. Same merges and same reaction after losing (comming in fast instead of co-e).
Check the film... you were faster than me at the merge :)
And you call me a sore loser... lol.
Film doesn't lie... end of story.
Gunzo
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Originally posted by WMLute
never hear of 'em.
Nor me, never seen him online either, but I've never heard of you or seen you online either :)
But I'm looking forward to seeing you in the DA.
Gunzo
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gunzo:
Now because I'm a reasonable man, I'm going to offer your squad salvation... Go speak to your bully boys, and if they have even a few vertebrae among them, they will fess up and admit vulching me. Then come back here and post an apology
That will be a cold day in hell my friend
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Originally posted by Gunzo
Check the film... you were faster than me at the merge :)
And you call me a sore loser... lol.
Film doesn't lie... end of story.
Gunzo
lol, Can't see them, I am at work. I bet you did not post the once you lost. Should be easy to find. They are the majority.
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
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I am not slaming the trainer corps. Like any other group, you have some nice guys some egomaniacs and some arses. BadBoy (Gunzo) has been complained about several times from several people. You guys seem to want him in your group. Well, you are judged by the friends you keep.
Also not slaming HT. If they are not paing his acount then I appologize. I was misslead. Free account or not though, they did nothing after my and others complains.
Finally, the fact that you came out here defending BadBoy tells me enough about you and your squad of hollier than the rest.
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wtf is going on here?
who the hell is gunzo?
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I dont know. But testosterone levels in this thread are kinda funny ;).
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*yawn*...going back to my coffee...
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Originally posted by dedalos
I am not slaming the trainer corps.
my apologies then dedalos, it just seemed that way......think I already apologized to you in my previous post though Sir...
Originally posted by dedalos
Like any other group, you have some nice guys some egomaniacs and some arses. BadBoy (Gunzo) has been complained about several times from several people. You guys seem to want him in your group. Well, you are judged by the friends you keep.
yes, everyone is judged by the friends they keep. and yes badboy brings alot to the table to offer to the community......
Originally posted by dedalos
Also not slaming HT. If they are not paing his acount then I appologize. I was misslead. Free account or not though, they did nothing after my and others complains.
that one there is above me, but as for the complaining and referencing this before going back to the PMs , well I never got a name , I know who you meant now after reading this thread.....I don't run Aces High, I do propose new Trainers and we all vote on them, no favortism before, now, or ever best I can see or tell.....
Originally posted by dedalos
Finally, the fact that you came out here defending BadBoy tells me enough about you and your squad of hollier than the rest.
I do not think I defended badboy in anyway dedalos, I did say he is a bigboy and can take care of himself WIN OR LOSE! I did also say that his other account did not start with a G........I do know this much....
and as for
QUOTE]Originally posted by dedalos
Finally, the fact that you came out here tells me enough about you and your squad of hollier than the rest. [/QUOTE]
which one you refering to? The Damned or the Trainers?
I do not think for one second you can lay that claim on either one of them......
you might want to go to the girls room and get your panties out of the bunch they seem to be in now. You know, in past times I had held a good respect for you, for goodness sake we even winged flew together, and I do not think I have ever attacked you in anyway that I can remember. but nothing really matters here, it all is a game, lets have some fun
cya up in the MA/TA/AvA/DA/SEA
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:O
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gunzo is shades for sure, but i dont think it's badboy. i think he might have used vox while i was online, but im not sure
badboy, although he can be a little pretentious (in a justified way i guess :p ), he is a gent really, and he has always helped me when i am willing to learn.
this gunzo kid is a loser and a tard, and 99% sure he aint badboy.
whoever he is, he's a tard and only fights when he has an advantage, then goes to the BBS trying to put people down with BS films. i think he beat me 3 times before. once was when he check 6'd me, i said no dice, and he killed me on climbout because he said i was a coward and a runtard?? wtf!?:huh
then other times he has had way more e than me, but i still came close to killing him, and he took multiple passes to even kill me, he isnt as good as he makes out, or as his films make out.
also, both times he beat me in an actual fight and not a climbout lame kill, i was being shot at by all types of noobs, and with tracers flying everywhere, i had to keep checking my 6
he is a tool, and a really busted up rusty tool at that :lol
also, please everyone see my petition... thread. there should be moderators in there that stop tards like this kid acting how they do
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
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Sorry, check PMs please
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Originally posted by dedalos
Sorry, check PMs please
no worries dedalos, is all good ~S~
we hook up sometime and wing a few , should be fun.......:)
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Originally posted by MOIL
gunzo:
Now because I'm a reasonable man, I'm going to offer your squad salvation... Go speak to your bully boys, and if they have even a few vertebrae among them, they will fess up and admit vulching me. Then come back here and post an apology
That will be a cold day in hell my friend
I'm not an LTAR and don't play one on TV, BUT...
In the interest of politics, I bozo, will formally issue you a personal apology;
I deeply regret, and I'm very truely sorry, that you're an idiot.
It's my sincere hope my small seed of peace grows into a tree of hugs.
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Heheh I guess this a "shade account" (that is new since when I left AH a few years ago it wasn't a term). I was formally known here as BigJim, when I came back I figured the name would be used so I chose this one.
Anyhow my question is this, How much money is made from being the the "Top Gun" in AH??? Do ya get your name on a "Wheaties Box", free tickets to the ballgame, the best looking chicks in town, or what???
:D Boxboy
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im gunzo
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Originally posted by Messiah
im gunzo
liar!!!!!
i am, and i cherry picked my poo account, and then acted like an arse to everyone, because i want to prove i am teh leet 1 !!!!!
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Guys,
This is just a second rate troll, and I'm not taking the bait.
Pooface, thanks for the kind words... You are learning so fast its scary. You also have a great attitude in the arenas, and it's nice to see you enjoying the game so much. But please don't get too involved in threads like this, they really are just a waste of time that could be better spent honing your skills. Do that, and iron out some of the wrinkles, and I think you have the potential to be as good as anyone in the game. If you want some regular training, let me know.
Dedalos, as far as I can remember, I've always enjoyed our fights and if I've done anything in any of the arenas to tick you off, please accept my apologies.
WMLute... who are you, never heard of you :)
Meanwhile, please guys, most of you have been doing this too long to take the bait on anything this obvious.
Badboy
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course it's a troll haha, im just playing with him :rofl
and ty badboy, i will be in the TA this saturday at 7 gmt, teaching a few guys scissors and reversals. it'd be great if you could drop by too:aok
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Originally posted by dedalos
Also not slaming HT. If they are not paing his acount then I appologize. I was misslead. Free account or not though, they did nothing after my and others complains.
Here's a news flash folks: Trainers pay their own way...... No free accounts.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by VIC
If you post your film Gunzo,you may wanna delete some of the text.
I was in there that evening when this occured and you seemed to be taunting them alot and lots of name calling.Just so you dont come off trying to sound like a martyr or victim here.You have good E management and the 2 times I fought you were game,but after myself and zaphod beat you ,you wouldnt fight us any longer.So it seems to me that you picked a fight with them after you vulched LTARKIlz on the take off.I've reviewed the film I have of the incident and it appears that you would extend beyond a reasonable distance and wait for them to break off then come in on them when they got into another fight.At one point in the film you stated you were getting some distance but you were completely out of icon range with them at the time,which puts you over 6k away.I understand the concept of extending but there's a certain distance that at which you are no longer extending but running.
Having had one encounter with Gunzo in the DA, I can say I would take anything he says with a grain of salt. He wanted to nothing but BnZ, travelling out 2-2.5K to zoom back in on my Hurri. That's a viable situation in the MA, its just not the point of the DA for me. I want to practise ACM with good pilots, so after about 5 or 6 times chasing after him, I got bored wasting my time, Now while I did NOT formally inform him in triplicate that I was breaking off the fight, I did say something like, "if all you're gonna do is BnZ, I'm done". Afterwhich, I turned back to land, needed to refuel soon anyway. He was so far away at that point, that it took him until I had just made my first gear down bounce on the runway, before he finally caught up and shot me down.
I admit I was surprised that anyone would consider a fight still on when someone is actually landing, but whatever. I complained a bit of course, and his response was (to paraphrase) "if you fight with me, you fight to the end", and some other equally forgetable comments. No name calling, just defining his generally poor, unfriendly attitude. At least that's the way it seemed to me at the time. Wasn't worth any more consideration, so I ignored him for the rest of the day.
Now for me, I'll often give someone who's seriously wounded and obviously trying to extend and evade the inevitable, the opportunity to land the 'dead duck'. After all, its not about scoring the kill, its about beating the other's position with ACM. Gunzo doesn't seem to have that sense of the experience that I and many others do. Its his nickel, I just don't have to spend any of mine on him.
And if someone seems to break off, I'll ask if he's still "in" or not, and respect whatever the situation now is. Its not like any kills or scores in the DA mean a damn thing. Its for fun, friendship, respect, and learning that I fly there.
So, if Gunzo wants to BnZ in the DA where most go to work on ACM (which to a greater degree is TnB), then that's fine for him. He just doesn't get to do it with me. Also, he's entitled to any attitude we wants, including not giving (or getting) any respect, or showing any 'dueling honor', and that's fine too.
But I personally, would not take anything he says here at face value. I've been in the DA when he was there on a couple of other occasions and haven't noticed him TnB-ing. I could be wrong, but for him it, looking good seems to be paramount, which is confirmed by the fact he started this self-grandizing post in the first place.
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
wtf is going on here?
who the hell is gunzo?
EXACTLY!!! Who cares? LMAO
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Yeah who cares, I'm the best player here anyways. We all know that:aok
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Originally posted by Sloehand
Having had one encounter with Gunzo in the DA, I can say I would take anything he says with a grain of salt. He wanted to nothing but BnZ, travelling out 2-2.5K to zoom back in on my Hurri. That's a viable situation in the MA, its just not the point of the DA for me.
Yep, but what you forgot to mention was that I was flying an F4U1, against your Hurri, and I wouldn't normally choose to fight a Hurri or a Zeke in an F4U in the DA because of the style of fight, but you checked my six first, and not wanting to refuse any fights, I accepted. Now, getting into a continuous turning fight in an F4U against a Hurri isn't very smart. Yes, the F4U1 will turn with the Hurri, but only at high speed, and at low speed only for a short time.
Of course fighting Hurri's and Zekes in an F4U1 is perfectly viable, and an almost certain kill for the F4U1 if it is flown correctly. That means flying it the way it was flown for real in the Pacific, attacking, extending far enough away to reverse for a follow up attack, and repeating until the bandit is dead. In real life though, Head On shots were common, but since the HO is frowned on in the DA, I was using a modified version of that tactic, involving turning with you as long as possible, getting on your six every time, but not quite getting the shot. Then then just extended far enough to repeat, and on and on until someone made a mistake.
That's much different from BnZ, which would have meant a similar, but perhaps even greater extension, a reversal and guns attack, with no real attempt to turn any longer than necessary for guns tracking. It would have probably been even smarter to extend far enough to ensure a good E advantage to rope you or use pure BnZ. That may have been even smarter, but it wasn't what I was doing.
The problem was, you had no idea how to counter. Chasing an extending bandit that you can't possibly catch is dumb. You had two far better options.
First, if you want an extending bandit to reverse, you should let them extend, while grabbing E in another direction, to tease them back in, that has the advantage that you don't have to wait forever while they try to get enough separation for a reversal, and you can gain far more energy that way than you can in a tail chase, so you would would have even more maneuvering potential when they came back. Secondly, because you were always going to have less E, you could have used that to counter the attack with a scissors, for a snapshot at the initial stage of the extension.
If you had attempted to do either of those things it would have signalled to me that you had a clue about ACM, and would have made a much better and shorter fight. But no... you didn't even counter the lead turns properly, which is why I was always on your tail... You always picked the worst option available. It was only the pure turn rate of the Hurri that saved you.
I complained a bit of course, and his response was (to paraphrase) "if you fight with me, you fight to the end", and some other equally forgetable comments. No name calling, just defining his generally poor, unfriendly attitude.
To me it just looked like you were flying the Hurri so you could duel guys in planes that wouldn't turn with you, hoping for easy kills. It looked like you were expecting an easy kill from an F4U and instead you got a fight you couldn't win, and when you saw that, you tried to end the fight for no apparent good reason. If you had put up a good fight and asked to break off I would have agreed, but it just looked like after some dweeby flying, you were just trying to chicken out and save yourself by landing.
Gunzo doesn't seem to have that sense of the experience that I and many others do.
:rofl :rofl
But I personally, would not take anything he says here at face value. I've been in the DA when he was there on a couple of other occasions and haven't noticed him TnB-ing.
Then watch those films, look at names on the pelts, then say I don't TnB like a true TopGunzo :lol
Gunzo
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Originally posted by MOIL
That will be a cold day in hell my friend
That's what I hoped you would say:aok
Just don't complain about it later.
Top-Gunzo
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Originally posted by Gunzo
Yep, but what you forgot to mention was that I was flying an F4U1, against your Hurri, and I wouldn't normally choose to fight a Hurri or a Zeke in an F4U in the DA because of the style of fight, but you checked my six first, and not wanting to refuse any fights, I accepted.
Well, we just found out you are a comsumate liar. Why? Cause as a rule, I don't initially Check 6 people in the DA that I don't know. Never. I take off and fly around the base observing the other fights, until someone engages me first. Why? Casuse I use the DA as a recruiting venue, and I have a specific way of doing it, part of which is I NEVER start a duel with someone I don't know.
Once I've had my first fight with someone new to me, I might be the one to offer an engagement after that, but not if I've never fought him before. Therefore you just lied about how our engagement started as you've lied about how it progressed. You are so pitiful in your lies.
And by the way, I don't know what you were flying cause it never came close enough for me to identify. And I did "chase" you (actually just turned into you and followed, waiting for your next dive) thinking you wanted a real duel, but you (trying to take advantage of nobody in the DA ever expecting a BnZ coward) engaged me first, and then started your run around tactics, which were easy to avoid.
Needless to say, lame and loser doesn't begin to cover you, but its the best HiTech will let me express here.
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Originally posted by Sloehand the AH Information Minister
(http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gunzo/wirq13.jpg)
you are a comsumate liar. Therefore you just lied about how our engagement started as you've lied about how it progressed. You are so pitiful in your lies.
Damn that's funny stuff. :rofl :rofl
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Gunzo
Yep, but what you forgot to mention was that I was flying an F4U1, against your Hurri, and I wouldn't normally choose to fight a Hurri or a Zeke in an F4U in the DA because of the style of fight, but you checked my six first, and not wanting to refuse any fights, I accepted. Now, getting into a continuous turning fight in an F4U against a Hurri isn't very smart. Yes, the F4U1 will turn with the Hurri, but only at high speed, and at low speed only for a short time.
Of course fighting Hurri's and Zekes in an F4U1 is perfectly viable, and an almost certain kill for the F4U1 if it is flown correctly. That means flying it the way it was flown for real in the Pacific, attacking, extending far enough away to reverse for a follow up attack, and repeating until the bandit is dead. In real life though, Head On shots were common, but since the HO is frowned on in the DA, I was using a modified version of that tactic, involving turning with you as long as possible, getting on your six every time, but not quite getting the shot. Then then just extended far enough to repeat, and on and on until someone made a mistake.
That's much different from BnZ, which would have meant a similar, but perhaps even greater extension, a reversal and guns attack, with no real attempt to turn any longer than necessary for guns tracking. It would have probably been even smarter to extend far enough to ensure a good E advantage to rope you or use pure BnZ. That may have been even smarter, but it wasn't what I was doing.
The problem was, you had no idea how to counter. Chasing an extending bandit that you can't possibly catch is dumb. You had two far better options.
First, if you want an extending bandit to reverse, you should let them extend, while grabbing E in another direction, to tease them back in, that has the advantage that you don't have to wait forever while they try to get enough separation for a reversal, and you can gain far more energy that way than you can in a tail chase, so you would would have even more maneuvering potential when they came back. Secondly, because you were always going to have less E, you could have used that to counter the attack with a scissors, for a snapshot at the initial stage of the extension.
If you had attempted to do either of those things it would have signalled to me that you had a clue about ACM, and would have made a much better and shorter fight. But no... you didn't even counter the lead turns properly, which is why I was always on your tail... You always picked the worst option available. It was only the pure turn rate of the Hurri that saved you.
To me it just looked like you were flying the Hurri so you could duel guys in planes that wouldn't turn with you, hoping for easy kills. It looked like you were expecting an easy kill from an F4U and instead you got a fight you couldn't win, and when you saw that, you tried to end the fight for no apparent good reason. If you had put up a good fight and asked to break off I would have agreed, but it just looked like after some dweeby flying, you were just trying to chicken out and save yourself by landing.
:rofl :rofl
Then watch those films, look at names on the pelts, then say I don't TnB like a true TopGunzo :lol
Gunzo
Harboring these feelings on the F4U-1, you have obviously missed something. The planes are an extension of your ability. Gimme 25% fuel and I WILL turn Hurry's (except mk 1). You obviously don't know about much of the drivel you spew. Hell, in the MA, I was turnfighting (stall buzzer lit up) in an F-8. This is one of the LAST planes I should have been doing it in, but I was and landed a few killz. I don't have to watch a second of the films to know the following.
You seem to be "feigning talent" by trolling in a shades account. I've been flying for 4 years and have NEVER seen you in the MA under "Gunzo". My guess, this BBS handle is a cover for who you are in the MA.
Karaya
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and the DA. he uses it as an ingame shades too. he's just a loser. not worth any more time
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Gimme 25% fuel and I WILL turn Hurry's (except mk 1).
Wow. you must be good :lol
You obviously don't know about much of the drivel you spew.
Obviously not :lol
Hell, in the MA, I was turnfighting (stall buzzer lit up) in an F-8.
Wow, I'm impressed :rofl
You seem to be "feigning talent" by trolling in a shades account.
You can't feign tallent, films don't lie.
My guess, this BBS handle is a cover for who you are in the MA.
Strange, nobody else seems to agree with you :lol
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Gunzo
Wow. you must be good :lol
Obviously not :lol
Wow, I'm impressed :rofl
You can't feign tallent, films don't lie.
Strange, nobody else seems to agree with you :lol
Gunzo
meh, you're proving his point dumbarse
trying to argue with a bunch of people, trying to make out like you're real good. even if you were as good as you make out, the way you do it means noone likes you. i bet it's the same in RL too
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Wow Gunzo...your really a self centered egotistical hatful sounding person. And , I would venture to say those are your good qualities.
You MUST fly with your feet. All that self back slapping your doing how can you possibly find time to fly? I would think it takes 2 arms to do what you do here.
Hey though , what ever blows your skirt up :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Gimme 25% fuel and I WILL turn Hurry's (except mk 1).
Originally posted by Gunzo
Wow. you must be good :lol
Hehe, had a fun over 5 minute fight in my Corsair the other day. Against a HMk2D, treetop, stall horn blazing, flaps, gear, the works. Was a great one (pity i forgot to tape it). Never found out who it was either, a second Hurri showed up that got me. This just shows its *quite* possible.... always depending on the Hurr driver of course.
And Gunzo, no, im not really good, so it cant be that. Must be the plane ;).
PS: Redtop, thats why i never wear a skirt when flying ;).
*runs off to pluck the hook out of her upper lip*
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Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!
There have been some great performances, but the real star here is Bagdad Pootard, with this amazing string of invective... And all because he got his butt kicked... Enjoy!
Originally posted by Bagdad Pootard
(http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gunzo/Bagdadpoo.jpg)
you are digging your own grave
you are obviously clueless
you are an energy potato
you are, a try hard loser
so yeah, STFU
he's a total dweeb
you aren't a member of this community
you're just some noob that's trying to look cool
you're a hotshot, uber l33t pileit
you have no friends because of this stupid attitude of yours
you are a dweeb with a bad attitude
you've made yourself a lot of enemies in a day
just shut up and go some place else
you're a lame smack talking dweeb
gunzo, you are full of s**t.
saying he went of sulking is total balls
you are a joke
some stuck up, rude tard
i am older than you, and even if it is only by a small amount, i am vastly more mature
he's a tard
he is a tool, and a really busted up rusty tool at that
i cherry picked my poo account
i cherry picked my poo account, and then acted like an arse to everyone, because i want to prove i am teh leet 1 !!!!!
he's just a loser
I would like to thank the Ltards, for the new perspective on Dweebery... Thanks guys, and just when I thought I'd seen it all.
I would like to say a big thank you to the Eurotard, EagleDweebs for being such good fun, and providing me with so many laughs, and even more kills.
It has been fun, but sadly all the big fish have left, and its time to throw the small fry back... Be careful pulling out the hooks, Pooface may need surgery to extract his, but don't worry the scars soon heal.
No really... It was fun guys, and way too easy :lol
Gunzo
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hahahah!!!!
funny thing is that aint me.. :D
i look more like this: but it's still an old photo
(http://www.thesproge.com/uploads/Jonny.jpg)
like i said, old, and poor quality, but hey, better than nothing, unlike mr gunzo
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lol, dude, just leave.:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
you trying to take the piss outta me because you cant make any more **** up about how you owned me??
you see, in critical thinking, we cal that 'ad hominem' - to the man...
basically means that subconsiously you have run out of ideas, and now you try to attack me, in a last ditch attempt to gain favour, and try to claw back a lost argument.
and, btw, ad hominem arguments suck, and just show the lack of character in the person. in other words, you seem to be to stupid to come up with a better argument, so instead you try to turn MORE hostile. it never works:aok
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Stand back!
stand back!
I think he's about to blow!!
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Gunzo
Stand back!
stand back!
I think he's about to blow!!
Gunzo
tick, tick, tick...
oh, sorry, i was listening to my watch:aok
so go on gunzo, who are you / were you?
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There are no rules in the general arena. Peeps been getting cheap shot kills for years now.
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Originally posted by Pooface
hahahah!!!!
funny thing is that aint me.. :D
i look more like this: but it's still an old photo
(http://www.thesproge.com/uploads/Jonny.jpg)
like i said, old, and poor quality, but hey, better than nothing, unlike mr gunzo
Poofaceeeeeeeeee i told you that pic was banned from the internet for sheep humpin reasons:O
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what a bunch of nonsense.......
anyone who knows the LTARs
knows that gunzo musta started the BS
he just didnt start filmin till the reprisals started
thats the way i read it anyway
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exactly soupcan
just like his other films too, where he claims to have beaten everyone... lol
dumb kiddie:rolleyes:
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BadBoy always trolls for crap like this. It's amusing in a way, but gets rather childish and annoying how he continues to egg it on... So who's the Gunzo guy?
;)
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Children in Africa are still starving.
The horn sounds sweeter when played for you.
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Here is what I don't get. I had my posts Scuzzified for saing a squadie threatent to hurt me. Here, we have over 100 posts of people flaming, trolling, and personally attacking but not a single # violation?
Hmmm, maybe I was wrong and gunzo is really Scuzzy or HT? :O
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
PS. Just in case. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE TEH FUNAY!!!11
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Guys,
Reading through this thread has inspired me to poetry!
Here ya go...
Gunzo felt mighty important that day
Flying so high in the clouds during play.
He felt so important up there in the blue
That he started in bragging, as Dweebs often do.
And he boasted out loud, as he threw out his chest,
“Of all of the pilots in the arena, I am the best!
In the Main Arena and Dulling Arena while up in the sky
No pilot lives who flies better than I.”
“What's that?” growled a voice that was terribly gruff.
“Now why do you say such ridiculous stuff?”
He went to Dar and saw Pooface at 9 O'clock low
“I'm the best of all pilots,” said Gunzo, “Ain't that so?”
“You're not!” snapped Pooface. “I'm better than you!”
“Pooh!” Gunzo snorted. “Again I say Pooh!
You talk mighty big, Mr Gunzo. That's true.
But how can you prove it? Just what can you DO?”
“Hmmm...” thought Gunzo,
“Now what CAN I do...?”
He thought and he thought. Then he finally said,
“Mr. Pooface, I challenge you, let's go Head to Head!
My skills are so keen and my reflexes fine,
No plane in the world can out ACM mine!”
“Humpf!” Pooface snorted, as he checked all his gear.
“You may think you are good,” Pooface said with a sneer,
“but now we shall prove it, right now and right here!”
“I'll prove it,” said Gunzo, “my skills are the best.
Be prepared to hit the silk, because I'll prove it by test.”
Then he pulled back the stick until his nose came up high,
and pointed straight up at the blue of the sky.
He pushed the throttle open as wide as he could.
“I'm gonna toast you!” he said, “You’d better be good!”
Then Pooface, for a moment, just flew straight and flat
For he knew that his Spitfire couldn't do things like that.
“This Gunzo’s a dweeb,” he thought, “he won't make a fool out of me.
Now I've got to prove that I'm better than he.”
So he said to Gunzo, “You turn pretty well.”
“Now lets see you evade these cannons from hell!”
“I'm the greatest!” Gunzo yelled, “That the world has seen.”
“When I've dealt with your cannons I'll wipe your clock clean!”.
Now off in the distance way up in the sky,
A Mustang pilot was lurking with a very keen eye.
“Ohhh Look,” said the pilot, “what's this I can see?
A very nice snack to have for my tea.”
The dogfighting pilots, lost in a fight of their own.
Suspected nothing and thought they were all alone.
“My Cod!” snapped the Gunzo. Pooface growled “Oh No!”
As the Mustang swooped in to catch them both slow.
Then Gunzo, who was looping, dived for the ack.
Two hits left him smoking and forced him to turn back.
Pooface was skillful, and avoided the first pass well,
but within moments they had both been killed by the Mustang from hell.
“Now, Guys,” said the Mustang driver, “you've been bragging a lot.
You both think you're good. But I think you are not.
You're not half as good as a pilot like me.
You may have some skills, but how well did you SEE?
Situational awareness should be taken as read!
You guys didn't know that and ended up dead.”
Then he pushed on the stick, rolled his Mustang to one side
And he opened the throttle....... he opened it wide.
And he looked far away with a strange sort of stare.
For he was king of the sky and master of the air.
There is a moral to this story that may well be true.
If you don’t stay alert his next kill may be you!
So when you fly in the arena and are overcome by the glory.
Just think back to the point of this story!
I know, I know, I'd better just stick to flying :)
Badboy
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hahaha!!!!!!
that was pretty darn good:aok secret english teacher or something??
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:rofl
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BadBoy, Salute.
A darn good read and straight to the point.
All those "Dick and Jane" books paid off. :aok
LTARsqrl <>
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I enjoyed it...I pictured the Mustang pilot as the Grinch :)
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-golf clap-
"Etiquette is the gift of the victor......... not the right of the victim"
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Originally posted by Pooface
hahaha!!!!!!
that was pretty darn good:aok secret english teacher or something??
Nope, but I get so many foreign students, it sometimes feels like I am :)
Badboy
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Originally posted by Tilt
"Etiquette is the gift of the victor......... not the right of the victim"
I like that a lot! Wish I'd thought of it. Can I use it?
Badboy
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anyone notice that we aint seen Gunzo around since the kill shooter was turned on and does anyone know when they going to turn it off
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ahem...... INspiring use of BBS space. I give it a 8.3 for degree of difficulty.
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Human quadrupeds discovered in Turkey
Tue Mar 7, 7:56 AM ET
LONDON (AFP) - The discovery of a Turkish family that walks on all fours could aid research into the evolution of humans.
Researchers believe the five brothers and sisters, who can walk naturally only on all fours, may provide new information on how humans evolved from four-legged hominids to walk upright.
Nicholas Humphrey, evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics, told The Times the discovery opened "an extraordinary window on our past".
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Human quadrupeds discovered in Turkey
Tue Mar 7, 7:56 AM ET
LONDON (AFP) - The discovery of a Turkish family that walks on all fours could aid research into the evolution of humans.
Researchers believe the five brothers and sisters, who can walk naturally only on all fours, may provide new information on how humans evolved from four-legged hominids to walk upright.
Nicholas Humphrey, evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics, told The Times the discovery opened "an extraordinary window on our past".
Errr, they all walk like that. Then again, I am Greek so don't take my word for it, :rofl