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Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: slimey_J on February 19, 2006, 05:55:06 PM

I did a search of the forums and saw this Japanese plane mentioned a few times (a year or two ago), but figured I'd throw this out.

Mitsubishi Ki-46-III Kai "Dinah"
Type: Two-seat high altitude interceptor
Max Speed: 390mph
Service Ceiling: 35,000ft
Armament: 2x 20mm fixed forward-firing cannons in the nose, 1x 37mm Ho-203 obliquely forward/upward firing cannon in the upper central fuselage.

I'm thinking it would be fun to plink at the B-17's and Lanc's from underneath with the 37mm.

(http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/air/jap/mitsu/00361.jpg)

(http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~maultier/gallery/tam_ki46/04.jpg)

(http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/images/dinahdm_22.jpg)  

(http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/images/dinahdm_06.jpg)

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 19, 2006, 06:04:38 PM

It would be chewed up in the MA but still would be a fun addition to the plane set.  Only Japanese plane a P-38 could easily out manuever.


ack-ack

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Krusty on February 19, 2006, 07:52:23 PM

I believe some had the 37mm firing forward, fixed, instead of a smaller 20mm-ish cannon.

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: helldiver on February 19, 2006, 08:38:43 PM

it's just a rip off of the bf-110 detroyer

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Krusty on February 19, 2006, 09:36:53 PM

It's a totally different plane. The 110 is much more heavily armed, and the Ki43s without the upward firing gun had different flight envelopes, meant as army recon planes and pressed into bomber interception. They were never designed as a heavy fighter, something the Japanese never obsessed over like the Germans did.

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: RAIDER14 on February 19, 2006, 10:32:36 PM

will it become a flameing comet like other jap planes?

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Krusty on February 20, 2006, 12:33:05 AM

Actually, I don't know if it had sealing tanks or not...

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Saxman on February 20, 2006, 01:48:05 AM

Japanese planes burn so preeeeeetty. :D

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Pooh21 on February 20, 2006, 05:09:19 AM

mmm Dinah
imagine 2 engine fun, with HTs nik antigrav

come on HT add the antigrav to the Dinah

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: helldiver on February 20, 2006, 11:57:55 AM

no jap plane had a self sealing tank.reson: they thought there planes were so manurverable that they were not needed.:t

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Lusche on February 20, 2006, 12:29:45 PM

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Originally posted by helldiver
no jap plane had a self sealing tank.reson: they thought there planes were so manurverable that they were not needed.:t

This is in part true: Japanese early war planes did not have them, partly because of getting them that maneuverable (less weight). Later models did have them. For example the Ki-61 had self-sealing tanks and even later marks of the Zero, the A6M5c (The A6m5b had fuel tank fire extinguishers)

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Karnak on February 20, 2006, 12:36:09 PM

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
It would be chewed up in the MA but still would be a fun addition to the plane set.  Only Japanese plane a P-38 could easily out manuever.


ack-ack

That is what you said about the Ki-45.  Which is it?

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Karnak on February 20, 2006, 12:39:06 PM

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Originally posted by helldiver
it's just a rip off of the bf-110 detroyer

Except for the whole "In service before the war started as a PR aircraft" part.

Sorry, try again.  I mean, I know the Japanese just made inferior copies of Western things and used bamboo and rice paper for construction materials.  Given that, you'd think that all you people stuck in the 1930s would be able to produce some evidence of it.

If you're talking about the upward facing cannon, well, the British did that first way back in WWI.

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Red Tail 444 on February 24, 2006, 05:51:47 PM

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Originally posted by RAIDER14
will it become a flameing comet like other jap planes?

Clearly you haven't met a skilled vet driving a Ki-84 :cool:

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Saxman on February 25, 2006, 02:41:17 AM

A well-flown flaming comet is still a flaming comet. :D

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Karnak on February 25, 2006, 03:30:11 AM

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Originally posted by Saxman
A well-flown flaming comet is still a flaming comet. :D

You are aware that the Ki-84, Ki-67, Ki-61-I-Tei and N1K2-J all have armor and self sealing tanks, right?

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Saxman on February 25, 2006, 11:52:25 AM

Yes, but thank you very much for spoiling a well-timed jab. :p

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Red Tail 444 on February 25, 2006, 01:30:04 PM

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Originally posted by Saxman
A well-flown flaming comet is still a flaming comet. :D

Just took out three B24's driven by HAVOCA20....flaming comet I think not..

Title: Ki-46-III Kai Dinah
Post by: Pooh21 on February 26, 2006, 12:58:43 AM

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Originally posted by Karnak
 I mean, I know the Japanese just made inferior copies of Western things  

look at their 262, they beat it with an ugly stick.