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Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 19, 2006, 09:45:37 PM
Man I missed this state.  I've been in San Antonio for  a few days now for my house hunting trip.  I made an offer on a house here in the NW side in the bridgewood area.  The people accepted so it's on to closing for me.  I almost hit a snag as I am going back to Kalifornia tuesday morning and today/tomorrow are federal hollidays.  I don't use a check book any more so I was stressing where to get a $1k check for earnest money.  Fortunatly the exchange here was able to use my debit card and I used a money order to send to the title company instead.  The house is 2300+ sqft 3bd 2.5bth with a pool.  Very nice floor plan.  I offered $138k with seller paying $3500 in closing and they took it.  $138 is the list price but I wasn't sure they'd pay that much in closing costs.

Either way I'm stoked about buying my first home.  I made 2 other offers this week on other homes before finding this one and there was allways something, either the couple couldn't get out in time or they wanted to haggle over the price and I just didn't have the time to do that.  

I had some really nice brisqet the other day and a local franchise called "millers BBQ" Close to my house I have all the major stores I need.  I can't wait to get home and start packing!  Seriously!  

I have to say though.....the traffic isn't nearly as bad here, but the drivers are.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: rpm on February 19, 2006, 10:11:20 PM
Welcome to Texas my friend. You will also become well aquainted with Taco Cabana.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: RAIDER14 on February 19, 2006, 10:24:46 PM
Whataburger is good also
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 19, 2006, 10:45:23 PM
Seems like a good buy.  Same house up here would be over 200, but that's because of the population boom in suburban PA.


Throw up some pics.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: RAIDER14 on February 19, 2006, 10:51:48 PM
always good weather in tx
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: FiLtH on February 19, 2006, 11:18:41 PM
138k would buy a very small house and yard here in NH.  A house like you described would be at the very least 250k. Then the taxes...argh
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 19, 2006, 11:23:10 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Seems like a good buy.  Same house up here would be over 200, but that's because of the population boom in suburban PA.


Throw up some pics.


LOL Try in the 350 range around by me. 3 BR 1 & 1/2 Bath. No basement no pool with a 1 car garage that you could get the carn into. but you would have to find a different way of getting out of the car then by using the doors LOL
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: GRUNHERZ on February 20, 2006, 12:35:37 AM
138K in the bay area would buy you a bathroom.  :)

Congrats on your first home purchase!
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 20, 2006, 12:38:31 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
138K in the bay area would buy you a bathroom.  :)

Congrats on your first home purchase!


In a mobile home.


Grats on the move Guns, hope every goes smoothly for ya.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 20, 2006, 01:14:38 AM
Congrats on the purchase indeed! Just one question, why did you agree to pay the list price? You do know the list price is just that, a list price?

I was able to reduce the final price by 10% on my house and that's good money.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Hangtime on February 20, 2006, 01:28:29 AM
138k here would get yah upstairs in an outhouse.

in queens.

think of the view.


congrats on the house!...















...condolences to texas. ;)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: T0J0 on February 20, 2006, 08:37:54 AM
Whooly magic beans... 2300SF here would start at $400,000 for a barebones model..... $138K would be a crack shack in sarasota...

TJ
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 20, 2006, 08:42:50 AM
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LOL Try in the 350 range around by me. 3 BR 1 & 1/2 Bath. No basement no pool with a 1 car garage that you could get the carn into. but you would have to find a different way of getting out of the car then by using the doors LOL


Oh hell yeah.  My dad's business partner was making an absolute killing in jersey a couple of years back.  He might still be at it.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Ripsnort on February 20, 2006, 08:56:32 AM
'Grats on the home purchase, Gun! Now get yourself a 10 gallon hat. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: eagl on February 20, 2006, 09:15:55 AM
Funny about the checkbook thing.  I almost never use checks either, but I still travel with my checkbook just in case.  It's happened before...  Get to a store for something I need, and their phone lines are out so they can't accept credit cards.  What to do?  Pull out the checkbook.  Need to buy a house and the stupid owners won't accept credit card?  Either put 5 cards into an ATM for $200 each card, or pull out the checkbook :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: guttboy on February 20, 2006, 09:29:36 AM
Gunslinger,

WELCOME TO SAN ANTONIO!  I am off of 281 in the stone oak area...you need to try out Rudy's.....Miller's is OK but Rudy's is excellent!

Gimme a buzz sometime and we can do dinner or something!

Make sure you get a season's pass to Sea World!  Much better than paying the daily rate...plus you can go there free once with your family with the Salute to the Troops deal....they should open in March/April

Take care!!!!

Mike
Title: Re: I Love Texas
Post by: indy007 on February 20, 2006, 09:32:57 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I have to say though.....the traffic isn't nearly as bad here, but the drivers are.


Then don't come to Houston :) We get the bad traffic AND the bad drivers.

The rest of the nation's housing costs are ridiculous. My brother in law is a builder. That same 138k home only costs about 70k to build. Saving my pennies to have him build mine, then I get almost half the value of the home in instant equity.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: nuchpatrick on February 20, 2006, 09:47:31 AM
WOW! Great hook Gunslinger!! Same house here in Orlando would go for over 250K..
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Goth on February 20, 2006, 10:27:24 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
Welcome to Texas my friend. You will also become well aquainted with Taco Cabana.


When I was stationed at Ft Sam, Taco Cabana rocked...that was back in the late 80's, glad to hear they're still up and running when many franchises blow away. Miss them frajita's!
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Mustaine on February 20, 2006, 11:25:51 AM
everyone else mentioned the same exact thing that came to my mind...

$138k for 2300 sq feet??! AND a pool!!!?!?!

$300K easy here minium.

i did a search the other day on shorewest.com for the county i live in (a suburb of milwaukee county) of houses $125k and lower.

in the whole county there was 1 listing:
http://www.shorewest.com/vp/ListingServlet?SITE=SHOREW&ScreenID=LISTING_DETAIL_P&cd_MLS=618060

i am guessing you got a much better house than that. :O
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: eagl on February 20, 2006, 11:29:37 AM
Housing prices in Texas have shown a sensible climb over the last 5 years, unlike other parts of the country with similiar economic situations.  Prices have risen between 2 and 8% per year through most of Texas, pretty much keeping pace with the economy.  That's a good thing 'cause when the housing price boom gets it's inevitable correction, Texas shouldn't get hit too hard.

Texas gets ya hard in property taxes though, but that's the tradeoff for not paying state income tax.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Maverick on February 20, 2006, 11:33:17 AM
Good deal on the house Guns. I hope the closing goes smoothly for you!

Since you'll be in the San Antoio area we'll have to get together. I have grandkids there and we stop by at least once a year for about a month or so in the hill country just NW of the city.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Curval on February 20, 2006, 01:40:30 PM
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Originally posted by Mustaine
everyone else mentioned the same exact thing that came to my mind...

$138k for 2300 sq feet??! AND a pool!!!?!?!

$300K easy here minium.

i did a search the other day on shorewest.com for the county i live in (a suburb of milwaukee county) of houses $125k and lower.

in the whole county there was 1 listing:
http://www.shorewest.com/vp/ListingServlet?SITE=SHOREW&ScreenID=LISTING_DETAIL_P&cd_MLS=618060

i am guessing you got a much better house than that. :O


2300 sq feet 3bedrooms and a pool would run about 1.5 - 2 million here.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 20, 2006, 02:55:54 PM
For those wondering why I offered list, it's because I wanted them to pay some of the closing costs.  That way it's les out of pocket for me.  Either way the house will appraise between 140 and 145.  They even offered up the Fridge and their pool table.  I really don't have the time to haggle and I'm going to be pressed to close in 3 weeks.  GAWD i'm moving in 3 weeks!!!:confused:


Here's some Pics, I hope they link:

(http://www.cbharper.com/photos/large/SABOR575671.jpg)
(http://www.cbharper.com/photos/large/SABOR575671A.jpg)
(http://www.cbharper.com/photos/large/SABOR575671B.jpg)
(http://www.cbharper.com/photos/large/SABOR575671C.jpg)
(http://www.cbharper.com/photos/large/SABOR575671D.jpg)
(http://www.cbharper.com/photos/large/SABOR575671E.jpg)
(http://www.cbharper.com/photos/large/SABOR575671F.jpg)
(http://www.cbharper.com/photos/large/SABOR575671G.jpg)

The upstairs is nice as well.  It's got a HUGE loft which is the future home of my "media room".  The master bedroom is pretty big as well.  All the bedrooms have walk in closets and the upstairs bath room was recently re-modled.  The house itself still has 5 years left on it's orriginal builder's warrenty.

I'll post some pics of the garage when I get back to Kalifornia tomorrow.  This is the only downside (well depends on how you look at it)  The previous owner finsished the garage up nice and put up a wall in front of the garage door to close it off.  This is where the pool table is.  My wife wants to keep it that way, wich isn't all that bad reall.  But I REALLY like to work in the garage.  It has a tool shed so tool storage isn't an issue.  To get it back to normal it's just a matter of knocking down a non-loadbearing wall and re-installing the opener.  I'm totally stoked!!!!!!!!!  I just hope we don't hit any snaggs on closing.

PS I've seen the rudy's but unfortunatly I wont have time to stop there.  The HEB deli/take out was what's for lunch and left over papa johns for dinner.  I'm studying for my WAPS (promotion) test that I have next week.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Curval on February 20, 2006, 03:00:42 PM
They forgot to dig a big hole and bury the pool.:huh
Nice big kitchen...like that.  Kitchens and bathrooms...always think kitchens and bathrooms.

Nice man!  :aok
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: midnight Target on February 20, 2006, 03:04:33 PM
138??? dayyyumm.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Mustaine on February 20, 2006, 03:15:09 PM
oh yeah, that is a $300k house here in the milwaukee area easy.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Skuzzy on February 20, 2006, 03:15:34 PM
Curval, there are many places in Texas you cannot have an in-ground pool due to the soil and/or sea level of the property.  

I do not know if this is the case or not here, but I know there are many areas of the Dallas/Ft. Worth area where you cannot have an in-ground pool, nor a concrete slab foundation due to shifting soil conditions (we have a lot of clay in the ground here).

138 is a pretty good price for that home.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: midnight Target on February 20, 2006, 03:18:45 PM
That house would cost 450k here, 550 to 650 in Orange County. Maybe more if it's within smelling distance of the ocean.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 20, 2006, 03:27:56 PM
Plus the backyard is rather small Skuzzy (at least from the pictures).  Puttin in a pool in ground would be a big undertaking.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Silat on February 20, 2006, 03:30:08 PM
Congrats on the house.
Dont you lose 20 IQ points just being in Texas?:)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Curval on February 20, 2006, 03:32:10 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Curval, there are many places in Texas you cannot have an in-ground pool due to the soil and/or sea level of the property.  

I do not know if this is the case or not here, but I know there are many areas of the Dallas/Ft. Worth area where you cannot have an in-ground pool, nor a concrete slab foundation due to shifting soil conditions (we have a lot of clay in the ground here).

138 is a pretty good price for that home.


You mean that is like 4foot deep?  None of it is below ground?

Okay...no swan dives into that pool then.

Texas gets HOT...I imagine that pool would be more like a hot-tub in August..no?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: indy007 on February 20, 2006, 03:32:22 PM
Ceiling fans all over, even on the porch. Gotta love Texas summers :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 20, 2006, 03:42:43 PM
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Texas gets HOT...I imagine that pool would be more like a hot-tub in August..no?


It'll get a little bit warmer, but nothing significant.  However, the black pad just to the right of the pool (in the picture) will get hot enough to melt flesh.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: RedDg on February 20, 2006, 04:28:13 PM
Nice looling house there guns, congratulations.  We close on our new place next week, and moving an entire family (and all the crap) is crazy to say the least!
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: RedTop on February 20, 2006, 04:48:35 PM
Welcome Gun. Good deal on that house Bud. Same house here , in R.R. just north of Austin would be maybe 160k I bought my 2100 sq. ft home for 142 brand new. Now it appraises at WELL over that. Taxes have gone up a lil but not bad.

Rudy's is better than Millers. Tex Mex food is awsome down there as well. Take your Wifey to the River Walk on a warm Saturday night and have a Ritta or 2 and ride the boats. You'll SCORE for sure. :lol

If you ever venture to Austin , let me know. Perhaps Edbert and I could meet ya for some BBQ and a Coke. I don't drink anymore really so 1 ritta and boom boom RedTop don't drive no mo. (funny I could drink 3 or 4 pitchers of riittas a couple of years ago).

WELCOME TO TEXAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 20, 2006, 05:06:21 PM
Curv,

I checked it out and the house isn't on shifting soil, the pool is just what the previous owners wanted.  Either way Above ground pools aren't bad and are alot cheaper than inground.  My guess is they are a little easier to maintain as well.  One particular that I like about above ground is the decking (wich I plan to finish all the way around) has a gate on it.  This at least attempts to keep my kids (6 and 3 years old) away from the waters edge.  The lot is smaller than some yards I looked at and half the size of my current one but oh well.  Less grass for me to mow.  

The house has a ceiling fan in almost every room and even outside under the covered patio.  I still havn't decided if I want to turn the garage back into a garage from the party room it is now.  It's actually pretty nice, professionally lighted and everything.  

Here's the "converted" garage.  The pool table comes with it BTW.  Like I said that's a nice little "daddy's play room" but I like haveing a garage.  On the plus side all automotive work can be done at the auto hobby shop on base.

(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2244/dcp09236az.jpg)

There's a half shot of the master BR (notice not one but two fans)
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/228/dcp09222ro.jpg)

Here's the loft AKA my gaming room/kids XBOX space.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7223/dcp09212kd.jpg)

Can you guys tell how excited I am??????  :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on February 20, 2006, 05:20:07 PM
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Originally posted by Silat
Congrats on the house.
Dont you lose 20 IQ points just being in Texas?:)


Yeah but he'll make up for the lost IQ points from the increase in testosterone.  :)  Wait, that'll make him lose IQ points too ..............

Ah well.  At least he has a pool, and the more relaxed gun laws .............

:aok
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Shifty on February 20, 2006, 05:49:20 PM
Welcome to Texas Gunslinger. I hope you enjoy your new home.:aok
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Shifty on February 20, 2006, 05:49:20 PM
Sorry double posted. Welcome to Texas ISP's as well.:D
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: xrtoronto on February 20, 2006, 05:54:56 PM
Where's the AH guest room? ;)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: midnight Target on February 20, 2006, 06:01:23 PM
My house came with a pool table too. It took about 1.5 years before it became a laundry folding table/big dam heavy in the way table.

Sold it to a guy for $400, he took care of removing it.

Congrats on the home. Good luck with it.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: rpm on February 20, 2006, 06:09:05 PM
Looks like a great deal, Guns. WTG!

Now we just need to introduce you to "Dublin" Dr. Pepper!
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: g00b on February 20, 2006, 06:30:43 PM
A house for 138K? Wowsa! Here in Santa Cruz, CA, the median price for a house is almost $800,000. You simply can not find anything for under $500K. Maybe it's time to move...

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2006/January/12/local/stories/02local.htm

g00b
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Curval on February 20, 2006, 06:36:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
This at least attempts to keep my kids (6 and 3 years old) away from the waters edge.


'Nuff said.  Please be careful with those kids around the pool. I could tell ya a few stories from down here, but since you brought it up I'm sure you are aware of the dangers.

That master bedroom is huge man...looks great!  Plus...you have a Daddy room, no house could be considered a home (castle) without a Daddy room.

You have every reason to be psyched...enjoy it.

:aok
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Airscrew on February 20, 2006, 06:38:01 PM
Gun, I live about an hour from San Antonio and my brother lives in San Antonio, off Bandera in Live Oak area.  He just had a pool put in at about $45,000 for in ground pool.  His previous house had an above ground pool.

House looks nice.   Once you get settled in and finish your WAPs testing we should plan a get together ( I cant believe you have to test during a move, thats like extra stress:confused: )

also Bill Miller BBQ is to barbeque like MacDonalds is to Hamburgers.  Rudy's is the way to go.  ;)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Wolf14 on February 20, 2006, 07:19:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Silat
Congrats on the house.
Dont you lose 20 IQ points just being in Texas?:)


That wasnt a very nice thing to say you greifer :)

As far as BBQ places go the small mom and pop ones are the best I think. Rudy's is good, but there is better.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 20, 2006, 09:53:01 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Airscrew
Gun, I live about an hour from San Antonio and my brother lives in San Antonio, off Bandera in Live Oak area.  He just had a pool put in at about $45,000 for in ground pool.  His previous house had an above ground pool.

House looks nice.   Once you get settled in and finish your WAPs testing we should plan a get together ( I cant believe you have to test during a move, thats like extra stress:confused: )

also Bill Miller BBQ is to barbeque like MacDonalds is to Hamburgers.  Rudy's is the way to go.  ;)


WOW,  and I liked Miller's too.  Guess I'll have to try rudy's when i get back here.  Either way I think I make the best ribs ever made ;) .  You know you are in Texas when the local grocery store is selling cut in half 55 galon drums painted black as BBQs/Smokers right out front for under $70.00.  

I almost went looking thourh the HEB for Blue Bell......I lacked time though and Home Depot was calling me.  :aok
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 21, 2006, 02:53:21 AM
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Originally posted by Curval

Texas gets HOT...I imagine that pool would be more like a hot-tub in August..no?


Phfffffffffftt! It barely got above 110 last summer around here.  Didn`t even have to break out the beer cooler or short sleeves.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 21, 2006, 08:38:35 AM
someone from portland or. is talking about IQ and location?

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 21, 2006, 09:21:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Silat
Dont you lose 20 IQ points just being in Texas?:) [/B]


Weuns ain`t for certin abot that. We is unedikated. Ask that HT feller and see what he reckons.

I can see why you would be concerned Lew.............I mean if you planning on making a con. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 21, 2006, 10:34:20 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Silat
Congrats on the house.
Dont you lose 20 IQ points just being in Texas?:)



He loses 20 liberal points, but he gains 35 manly man points!
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on February 21, 2006, 05:56:57 PM
Welcome to Tejas Gunslinger:aok
If your single there are tons of purty meskin women down there.
:p
Title: Guns WTG Congrats
Post by: daMIG on February 21, 2006, 11:14:42 PM
hey guns, I am in Texas only 5 years now..... I am liking it even though those Oregon peeps are mad at Texas cause Bush is from here, and we got Sun.

Looks like = 10 IQ points Guns.

AH sleepover room and Lan connects? Heck, I'll sleep in the car on in the driveway.

Congrats Guns Verrry nice bro! Silat does not need to visit if he dont want to. it will cost him some perkies... :aok
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: FX1 on February 22, 2006, 12:28:58 AM
I am a Realtor in Austin for the past 8 years. The prices have been going up and Austin has grown withis this increase. Yes you can buy a house like Guns but its not going to be downtown. Most of my cali clients think that Texas has these LOw Low prices but its not the case. Their are some great buys but you need to look around for them. Gunslinger if they are building homes around that area if so do not sell for 5 years. I see people move and a year later sell thats really bad. Most new construction areas will not bring the resales up for some time. Good luck good to see ya back in Texas..

Whats the builders name?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 22, 2006, 08:32:37 AM
seriously... any of you guys been to portland?  the irony of someone from portland talking about IQ and location is precious.

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: JTs on February 22, 2006, 09:06:59 AM
did you see the ice on the ground monday on the westside? and dont you just love all that road construction at the I10-410 split. been going on about 7-8 years now.  but the upside is your not that far from brenham.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 22, 2006, 01:38:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by FX1
I am a Realtor in Austin for the past 8 years. The prices have been going up and Austin has grown withis this increase. Yes you can buy a house like Guns but its not going to be downtown. Most of my cali clients think that Texas has these LOw Low prices but its not the case. Their are some great buys but you need to look around for them. Gunslinger if they are building homes around that area if so do not sell for 5 years. I see people move and a year later sell thats really bad. Most new construction areas will not bring the resales up for some time. Good luck good to see ya back in Texas..

Whats the builders name?


The builder is KB.  Them and Centrex (?) have a bunch of projects out here being the main two builders.  The home itself still has 5 years on the builders warrenty.  They are still building IN the subdivision itself so I figure that's a good sign that the area is still growing.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: FX1 on February 22, 2006, 02:26:36 PM
Shop around for your note! Closing cost are killing some buyers under 150k also if they are paying closing cost make sure you can use the full amount. I closed one a month ago because my buyers bank would only allow 2500 to go to his closing cost. He had 500 on the table after closing ):
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 22, 2006, 03:53:13 PM
Quote
Originally posted by FX1
Shop around for your note! Closing cost are killing some buyers under 150k also if they are paying closing cost make sure you can use the full amount. I closed one a month ago because my buyers bank would only allow 2500 to go to his closing cost. He had 500 on the table after closing ):


I lucked out there.  I'm doing a VA loan so alot of the costs are fixed.  I put down $1k in Earnest money, the seller agreed to $3500 in costs and I can roll my VA funding fee into the loan (usually 2.1%) so that will probably leave me with next to nothing out of pocket closing costs.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: FX1 on February 23, 2006, 02:46:51 AM
VA is better tha FHA thats for sure on closings cost. Our lets just say will allow you to do more.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: culero on February 23, 2006, 03:09:44 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
The builder is KB.
snip


FWIW, folks I know in the building trades have told me these guys cut a lot of corners.

culero
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 23, 2006, 08:20:58 AM
Where in Texas can I go where the weather is bearable?

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 23, 2006, 09:02:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by culero
FWIW, folks I know in the building trades have told me these guys cut a lot of corners.

culero


From my research they ALL cut courners.  Centex built some bad homes in the area and so did KB.  They all have their bad ones, I havn't heard or seen anything wrong with this area.  Hopfully I never have to use the builders warrenty.  KB and Centex is mostly what you find in the area.  

Laz almost all of Texas gets hot and humid in the summer.  I lived in north texas (sherman area) for a while and it actually snows there in the winter.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 23, 2006, 09:05:15 AM
don't like snow.   What about the "hill country" kerrville area, freidricksburg and like that?

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Airscrew on February 23, 2006, 09:15:15 AM
Lazs, San Antonio, New Braunfuls, San Marcos, and Austin, upto Marble Falls, Fredricksburg and down to Brehnam, probably even Houston if you can stand the humidity, are pretty decent weather wise.  Usually the worst winter weather in this area is ice and sleet but it only lasts a few days and then warms back up.   It did snow in Corpus Christi last year and thats was south of us, even if it snows it only stays around a day or two
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Sixpence on February 23, 2006, 09:16:16 AM
"That's a good thing 'cause when the housing price boom gets it's inevitable correction, Texas shouldn't get hit too hard."

I have been waiting for that "inevitable correction" here in the northeast for sometime now. I can't touch a house that is ready to be lived in for under 250k, and that doesn't get you much.

138k for all that??? Well, even though the heat down there worries me, looks like it's time for a transfer. Say hello to your new mailman Gun 8-D

Oh, and congrats!
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: texace on February 23, 2006, 09:32:27 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Where in Texas can I go where the weather is bearable?

lazs


North Texas isn't too bad. Summer is mostly a dry heat and it doesn't get too terribly cold. Worst you'll get is ice in the winter. :aok
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Skuzzy on February 23, 2006, 09:47:03 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Where in Texas can I go where the weather is bearable?

lazs
Define bearable.  There are 4 different weather areas of Texas.

North Texas can get the most extreme weather patterns, from hot (115F) to cold (low 20'sF), from drought to flooding.  The panhandle of Texas is dead in the middle of tornado alley.

South Texas normally has the most moderate temperature swings, but is very humid year round.  It is also the most likely to be hit by a hurricane and usually catches one a year during hurricane season.

East Texas is also pretty moderate, still high humidity, but less than the coast.  A lot of rainfall in East Texas, mostly moderate though.  East Texas is marked well by pine trees.  You almost think you are in mountain country due to the pines, but it is flat as a pancake.

West Texas is desert.  Very flat with the occasional hill and low grade mountain in the extreme West.  Very hot and dry in the summer.  Very windy when a storm blows through.

Inbetween the quandrants you can find various mixes of the above.  Hill country gets pretty hot in the summer time, and can be cold in the winter.  However, there are a lot of lakes in and around hill country, which are very nice, and prod the person living there to visit them during the summer.

The major metropolitan areas of Texas vary greatly in atmosphere and pace.  While the smaller towns are all pretty much filled with bubbas.

Most people, moving from out of state, have a difficult time adjusting to the distances between everything.  Texas is blessed with a lot of wide open space and it is used.  Anytime you think abou going someplace, almost always expect a 30 minute drive.

It really depends on your own life style.  For almost any given lifestyle, Texas has a place you can live and be happy there.  However, if your lifestyle centers around never changing weather, then Texas is not the place for you.

Texas is a state of diversity.  About the only thing every native Texan has in common is the southern drawl.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Nilsen on February 23, 2006, 09:55:00 AM
Any desert in Texas?... always wanted to see a real desert with those yarn balls hopping across the road when it blows.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 23, 2006, 10:02:35 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Any desert in Texas?... always wanted to see a real desert with those yarn balls hopping across the road when it blows.


yup, El Paso to abalene is all desert IIRC.  Nils next time the wind blows here I'll get you a couple of snap shots of tumble weeds.  We get them all the time.  Once I saw one that was bigger that a good sized pickup truck.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Nilsen on February 23, 2006, 10:36:38 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
yup, El Paso to abalene is all desert IIRC.  Nils next time the wind blows here I'll get you a couple of snap shots of tumble weeds.  We get them all the time.  Once I saw one that was bigger that a good sized pickup truck.


Yes do that please. I used to have a poster in my room when iwas a kid of that... huge thing taken in the sunset by some famous photographer. Beautiful
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 23, 2006, 10:43:34 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Where in Texas can I go where the weather is bearable?

lazs


Laz I don`t think you would have too much problem adjusting to things around our area. (East Tx/Tawakoni)  The summer humidity would be higher than what you are used too, but you get used to it. It`s usualy not that bad. Down south iin the coastal area is the worse humidity wise. We , as a rule, don`t have much of a winter. The occassional ice/snow, but it`s pretty rare comparitivly speaking. Lot`s of back roads and places to "unleash the beast". :)

Skuzz said......
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East Texas is marked well by pine trees. You almost think you are in mountain country due to the pines, but it is flat as a pancake.

 
I don`t know exactly who dropped what in Skuzz`s coffee for him to make that statement. We certainly don`t have mountains in East Texas or anything like that, but East Texas is known for the pure beauty of the rolling hills. It`s a pretty awesome countryside as a whole.
A couple of things I`m pretty sure you would like about East Texas is there is no end to the places you can go to pop a few caps without going to a lot of trouble when you get to know who owns what. It takes me about two minutes from shutting the door to being ready to rock. :)
The other thing is that folks seem to mind their own business. It certainly wasn`t that way in the area of Tx that I was raised in. In the small town I was raised around someone could fart at 3:00 A.M. and by sunrise half the people would know about it. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 23, 2006, 11:10:38 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Any desert in Texas?... always wanted to see a real desert with those yarn balls hopping across the road when it blows.


(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/22_1140714311_tumbleweed3.jpg)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/22_1140714240_tumbleweed1.jpg)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Skuzzy on February 23, 2006, 11:26:00 AM
Jackal, maybe I should have said, relative to the mountains in Colorado.  I lived in Beaumont for several years.  I am familiar with the area and it is probably one of the most beautiful areas in Texas.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Nilsen on February 23, 2006, 11:26:37 AM
I see a couple of tumbleyarns, but I need more sand. Yes google is my friend, but id like pics that you guys have shot.

What kind of sand is it usually? the yellow'ish or red'ish?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Airscrew on February 23, 2006, 11:29:47 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
What kind of sand is it usually? the yellow'ish or red'ish?


Brownish, grityish, and it doesnt taste good, up your nose, in your ears.  Sand in West texas doesnt always behave and lay still like beach sand, it likes to fly around and get into everything
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Nilsen on February 23, 2006, 11:47:23 AM
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Originally posted by Airscrew
Brownish, grityish, and it doesnt taste good, up your nose, in your ears.  Sand in West texas doesnt always behave and lay still like beach sand, it likes to fly around and get into everything


So its more like dirt?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Skuzzy on February 23, 2006, 12:08:50 PM
The sand color varies with location in Texas.  Mostly what you would see in any desert.  Beige color, but can be darker or lighter in various parts othe state.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Nilsen on February 23, 2006, 12:19:29 PM
All this talk of sand makes me miss the piza map. I had a go at AH2 for the first time yesterday (offline on a work puter that i took home) and I loved it. I miss that game so much it almost makes me cry. The puter was a laptop with 1,73mhz mobility cpu, 1gig ram and x600 mobility gpu with 64mb ram and it was smooooooth with. My IT budget says that I can ge me one of those this year and I will. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: FX1 on February 23, 2006, 01:38:22 PM
Laz come to Austin i will set ya up with a house. I can also get you into the pistol/rifle groups around central Texas. I just bought 300 acres in the hill country for 350k with a house and two stock tanks. This is going to be my little africa in five years. I have been thinking about my pistol range and have some great ideas. 80% of my clients for the past 2 years have been from Cali.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: FX1 on February 23, 2006, 01:46:04 PM
Centex and Kb are ok if you like to fix little problems like doors and weather seals. For the price you get what you pay for, its not that bad. I have had good luck with both companys.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 23, 2006, 02:27:50 PM
ok... I am used to northern kalifornia weather which can be a week or so of over 100 degree but low humidity...  mostly mid 90's in the summer thru september....  nights are cooler but can be in the 80's...  

Winter is cold with no snow but 30-40 degree in the mornings is normal... too much wind tho.

I want to be able to go out my back porch and either pee or shoot or both at the same time.... fire up a hot rod with open headers once in a while.

East and central Texas sound about the best so far.

I gotta get out of kalifornia... work a couple more years and get away from this friggin state and all the women who run it.   What you do here today is illegal next week and what you own is illegal before the week is out....  high taxes with nothing to show for it but a bunch of permits, licences and tax reciepts...  sneeze and the epa wants to make you get a permit...  

FXI... I might look you up when I take a trip out to explore.

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Skuzzy on February 23, 2006, 02:37:06 PM
Get a map of Texas laz.  Connect Junction, Crystal City, and Lupotato peelin.  I think that area should provide the climate you are looking for.

Just remember, the further West you go, the warmer the summers will be.  Junction and Crystal City should be around the low 100's for short times in the summer.  Of course, they can get hotter occasionally.
The further North you go will reduce the humidity.

Oh, and Huntsville is home of the Texas State Pen.  Just FYI.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: FX1 on February 23, 2006, 02:49:46 PM
If you come down we can take a day trip out to the ranch for some fun. Make sure you pack your Blaster!
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: USHilDvl on February 23, 2006, 04:13:31 PM
No wonder I break my keister every hopping day, 60 hours a week, and can't get ahead.  Here in Northern Jersey...you might buy a garage for 138K, but not much else.  For what was described...and I'm sure dred and doobs would concur, you're at least at $450-600+K.  Then comes taxes.

Try this on for size:  My place is 40 years old, 1500 SF, 1.5 baths on 1/10 of an acre.  Yup...1/10th.  We have a part-time government, shared police department, no sidewalks, no curbs and no city sewer service.  Taxes last year...wait for it...$6300.

My Dad's place is brand-new, 4000 SF custom built, plus new barn, service sheds and outbuildings, 4 miles of fence, on 55 acres of prime horse country in NW Virginia.  Taxes last year...$200 LESS than mine.

No wonder the Old Man keeps telling me I'm an idiot...he's right.

Welcome to the People's Democratic republic of New Jersey!!

OK, Ok...<.endrant>

Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Wolf14 on February 23, 2006, 06:24:17 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Where in Texas can I go where the weather is bearable?

lazs


Laz, The Brazos Valley area is a great area as well. A little warm in the summer, but not unbearable. Mild winters. This year we have yet to get into the 20's.

We are closest to Houston, Austin, and Waco with San Antonio and DFW not being all that much further.

If your into fishin we got the Brazos and Navasota rivers right out the back door so to say and then we got Lake Conroe, Sommerville, Gibbons Creek, Lake Bryan, as well as Lake Livingston and Limestone just down the road.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 23, 2006, 06:58:17 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Jackal, maybe I should have said, relative to the mountains in Colorado.  I lived in Beaumont for several years.  I am familiar with the area and it is probably one of the most beautiful areas in Texas.


I`ll forgive ya this time Skuzz. :)
Yea when you get farther south in what is known as east Texas it`s a bit different. Coastal plains, etc. IMO The best countryside for East Tx can be found between I20 and I30.
That`s one thing about Texas. You can find just about anything here as far as countryside goes and some very varied weather. You can also find just about anything in the way of recreation and entertainment.  ( I expect Beetle to come in at any moment and whine because I said we have it all. Seems to really perturb him. :) )
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Wolf14 on February 23, 2006, 07:15:57 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
( I expect Beetle to come in at any moment and whine because I said we have it all. Seems to really perturb him. :) )



But dont we realy Do have it all?



Of all the places I could go, I really have no reason to go. Everything I want is here at this point in time in my life.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 23, 2006, 07:38:41 PM
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Originally posted by Wolf14
But dont we realy Do have it all?



Of all the places I could go, I really have no reason to go. Everything I want is here at this point in time in my life.


Yep, we pretty much do.
That`s what bothers the lad. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: guttboy on February 23, 2006, 09:55:06 PM
Hmmmmm.....well lets just say taxes inside San Antonio proper leave something to be desired.....at 3.2 to 3.3% of appraised value on your home you pay a great deal.....

No income tax though....but wait....sales tax is what.....over 8%!

I guess just about any where you live you "pay" somehow....LOL!
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on February 23, 2006, 11:52:52 PM
There is a saying about texas weather.
If you dont like it waite a couple minutes and it will change.

When I first moved here from Colorado I thought I was gonna die but got used to it after a couple of summers now I love the heat.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 24, 2006, 07:57:33 AM
LOL Jackall! :lol Now listen, matey - just remember when and where your thermostat was invented. :D

As for Texas having everything, I know this is true because Jackall says it's true. :aok ...

... so it's funny that my local area is often teeming with American tourists. Don't they know that for a fraction of the time and cost it takes to get to England, a rich, diverse, all encompassing cultural experience awaits them... in Texas?
:rofl
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 24, 2006, 08:12:00 AM
beet... england is like a cross between a really boring amusment park and a museum with really crappy weather to most of us.

you may have the place teaming with American tourists but.... they come home.  people don't move from Texas to england... they do move from england to Texas tho.

I will have to look at Texas a little closer sometime this year especially the areas that skuzzy mentioned..  I can also look at some of northern Arizona on the way.   It's been too long since I have really looked at those areas.

Oh well.. there isn't one state near kalifornia that doesn't trust it's citizens with firearms so I shouldn't have too much problem...  The only thing we get for our tax money in kalifornia is shrill socialist government and fees based on junk science.

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 24, 2006, 09:11:43 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e

... so it's funny that my local area is often teeming with American tourists. Don't they know that for a fraction of the time and cost it takes to get to England, a rich, diverse, all encompassing cultural experience awaits them... in Texas?
:rofl


Yea, there are a lot of boring Americans just like there are a lot of boring people all over the world Beet. I beleive those folks are going to the right place. At least they are out of our way. We`re not into boring around these parts. :)



BTW, let me be the first to say..."Told ya so". :rofl
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 24, 2006, 09:19:43 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Yea, there are a lot of boring Americans  
sounds like you're one of 'em, if you never see the point of going beyond you're own state line. :rofl

Lazs - oddly enough, I had lunch at a café today, where there were yanks on two of the tables adjacent to mine - and even two of the "servers" were American. :aok
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 24, 2006, 09:22:10 AM
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Originally posted by guttboy
Hmmmmm.....well lets just say taxes inside San Antonio proper leave something to be desired.....at 3.2 to 3.3% of appraised value on your home you pay a great deal.....

No income tax though....but wait....sales tax is what.....over 8%!

I guess just about any where you live you "pay" somehow....LOL!


yup $3K a year for me right now.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: indy007 on February 24, 2006, 09:54:40 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e
LOL Jackall! :lol Now listen, matey - just remember when and where your thermostat was invented. :D

As for Texas having everything, I know this is true because Jackall says it's true. :aok ...

... so it's funny that my local area is often teeming with American tourists. Don't they know that for a fraction of the time and cost it takes to get to England, a rich, diverse, all encompassing cultural experience awaits them... in Texas?
:rofl


Maybe you can explain this Beet... there's a group that plays cricket near my house. I've seen them every saturday morning I pass by on the way to visit my parents... and they almost all have on the same style hat everytime.

So why the big, floppy hats? They even wear them in overcast conditions. Is there a dress code for cricket? Well, at least brits & americans have one thing in common... fascination with boring sports involving grown men trying to whack balls with glorified sticks.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 24, 2006, 02:44:07 PM
so beet.... you found two Americans who were working in england?  were they trying to get citizenship...  I know you didn't mean that there are more Americans who want to be british than there are brits who want to be American....

even you wouldn't imply that..... right?  I mean...you would be laughed off the planet.

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Skuzzy on February 24, 2006, 04:54:08 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
... so it's funny that my local area is often teeming with American tourists. Don't they know that for a fraction of the time and cost it takes to get to England, a rich, diverse, all encompassing cultural experience awaits them... in Texas?
:rofl
Beet1e, I have spent some time in England, and have lived in Texas all my life.  I know you would be terribly surprised to find out Texas has a very diverse culture.  More so than England does.

England has things Texas does not have simply due to the much deeper history and Texas has things England does not have, simply because it is Texas.

But we Texans do chuckle at the sterotypical responses and thoughts people share about us.  It is quite funny, and really misses the mark by quite a bit.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: midnight Target on February 24, 2006, 05:12:37 PM
Anybody familiar with Longview? What's that burg like?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Skuzzy on February 24, 2006, 05:17:41 PM
I have driven through Longview, but never stopped there.  Anything particular you looking for MT?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: RAIDER14 on February 24, 2006, 05:33:04 PM
founders plaza at DFW is pretty cool I know what time all the jumbo jets come in:aok
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 24, 2006, 05:35:00 PM
MT,

Are you seriously considering moving to the lonestar state?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: midnight Target on February 24, 2006, 07:28:39 PM
Yep,

All I need is a job down there and I'm outie.


Skuzzy,

Longview has a large RV manufacturing facility.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 24, 2006, 07:35:54 PM
MT... you would leave this socialist paradise and your beloved comrades finestein and boxer?

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: midnight Target on February 24, 2006, 07:38:28 PM
Yep,

I plan on sittin on my porch with my rifle and picking off libruls while laughing hysterically.

I figger I'll fit right in.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Shuckins on February 24, 2006, 07:42:50 PM
MT,

Texans aren't really like that...uncivilized louts that just allow anyone to pop away at the riff-raff of society.

You gotta have a license.

Regards, Shuckins
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 24, 2006, 08:01:53 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
sounds like you're one of 'em, if you never see the point of going beyond you're own state line.
 


Noone has ever said that I never went beyond the state line. I could however spend the rest of my days inside the Texas borders and be quite happy. Ya see we have enough here that we don`t have to country hop just to make sure the pulse rate don`t flat line like some of you I know. :)
I tell ya what there Beet.......I don`t know exactly what it is that does it, but whatever it is that keeps you away from our country on a permenant basis, I like it. :)  I just wish it would work as well on some others I know of.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 24, 2006, 08:04:19 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Anybody familiar with Longview? What's that burg like?


A great bikder bar there. You would love it. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on February 24, 2006, 10:58:59 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
MT,

Are you seriously considering moving to the lonestar state?



Good god there goes the neighborhood;)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on February 24, 2006, 10:59:57 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
A great bikder bar there. You would love it. :)



Me thinks he would like this bar more:eek:

http://www.labaredallas.com/
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: rpm on February 24, 2006, 11:06:41 PM
MT, Longview is in East Texas about an hour from Dallas / Ft. Worth. It has around 75,000 people and has lots of piney woods and lakes nearby. It's a lot like northern Cali, without the mountains.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 25, 2006, 08:01:16 AM
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Originally posted by indy007
Maybe you can explain this Beet... there's a group that plays cricket near my house. I've seen them every saturday morning I pass by on the way to visit my parents... and they almost all have on the same style hat everytime.

So why the big, floppy hats? They even wear them in overcast conditions. Is there a dress code for cricket? Well, at least brits & americans have one thing in common... fascination with boring sports involving grown men trying to whack balls with glorified sticks.
Can't explain it, Indy. I have made similar observations myself when Australia tours here in the UK, as they did for last years Test Series. Now I understand that they need big floppy hats on a typical day in Australia, and I also understand that they need that white lip balm that they use to prevent dry lips in the sort of heat they get there. So it used to crack me up to see Shane Warne in his white lip balm on an overcast day at Edgbaston, when the temperature was struggling to reach 70F. :lol So no, I can't explain it to you. And... if you need to know who Shane Warne is, google it, or better still ask Redd. I haven't seen Redd on this board recently, but he has a HUGE knowledge of cricket...
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Beet1e, I have spent some time in England, and have lived in Texas all my life. I know you would be terribly surprised to find out Texas has a very diverse culture. More so than England does.-skuz
Yes I would be terribly surprised, as I have spent some time in Texas and have lived in England most of my life, and was born the same year as you. ;)
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But we Texans do chuckle at the sterotypical responses and thoughts people share about us.
Yes, I understand that feeling quite well, especially when I read posts from Americans here which assert that the normal refrigerator in Britain is so small it can hold only a few sandwiches, or when I read a post by someone who thinks that Brit TV programme content is "controlled by the government" (LOL!) or the suggestion that a cancer patient needs some sort of government permission to see an oncologist, or that the government bars independent airlines from certain routes, or that Britain is an absolute monarchy, or that we need the queen to sign any law on an individual basis, or that she has any sort of power, or that we are "subjects" as opposed to "citizens" (as might be the case in an absolute monarchy - a situation that has not existed for hundreds of years)... need I go on?
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Ya see we have enough here that we don`t have to country hop just to make sure the pulse rate don`t flat line like some of you I know. -jackall
...which is to miss the point beautifully! Jack, anyone in any country can make the proud boast that "we have everything we need right here". Because, quite simply, the vast majority of people on this earth, even today, have never flown and will never have the wherewithal to venture beyond their own immediate environs. Thus, an eskimo armed with a trepanning tool and fishing rod (like the guy in my avatar) thinks to himself "we have everything we need right here". But why limit yourself to your own back yard? I am never going to be one of those people who rocks back and forth in a rocking chair, overlooking the countryside from atop the stoop, whilst he and his friend in the adjacent rocking chair shoot the breeze and pretend they know everything there is to know about the world. I don't want to take the thread off topic, but I'll quickly add that I'll be in the Middle East next month,  surrounded by Arabs. This trip is not for the purpose of rasing my pulse above 30! I might not like it, I might hate it. But it will be an experience which I consider to be part of life's rich tapestry. Feel free to wear a cowboy hat and rock back and forth on the stoop while I'm gone. :aok

Places I have been to in Texas: Galveston, Del Rio, Houston, Austin, San Antonio
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: RAIDER14 on February 25, 2006, 08:45:42 AM
really want a house in south-central texas I highly disagree

(http://www.dl-digital.com/images/West-Texas/DSC_3249-bird-quail1.jpg)
al qaeda  has quails down there
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 25, 2006, 09:26:05 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e
But why limit yourself to your own back yard?  


Understandable from someone who`s "backyard" is the size of a postage stamp and in shades of gray comparativly speaking. Have fun in the Arab world. I`m sure they will be amazed at your exciting sense of adventure. :)

Guns, enjoy Texas bud. I`m sure you will like it here.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: midnight Target on February 25, 2006, 09:58:21 AM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
Me thinks he would like this bar more:eek:

http://www.labaredallas.com/


Is that site in your favorites list next to http://www.stevierayvaughn.com?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 25, 2006, 10:00:46 AM
I can't believe that beet has been to Texas and still doesn't appreciate the scale of the place...

just the small area of Texas that skuzzy suggested I look at is a trip of over 500 miles.    Texas goes from ocean to desert.   A person could spend a great deal of his life exploring Texas and never really know it all.

Certainly travel is nice and seeing other countries and all but...  it isn't everything and is far from a complete experiance... travel not only broadens but... obviously... being somewhere for a short time gives you false impressions..

witness that beet is telling me and some of us that seeing england and driving from one end to the other does not make us experts...

beet has traveled all over the states yet.... anyone who lives here just cracks up when he talks about what he thinks the states are.

If one were to have a base... a place to live and travel from time to time... It would perhaps be better to live in a place as large and diverse in every way as Texas and travel from there rather than to live on a tiny little island with "the most boring people on earth"  (as a recent study showed) and lousy weather and rampant socialism and crime.

Everyone should travel if they get the chance but.... it really is no panacea.  It doesn't make you special... it just makes you well traveled.  It really doesn't give you any special insights just opinions that may or may not be more right than someones who hasn't even been there.

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 25, 2006, 11:32:30 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Understandable from someone who`s "backyard" is the size of a postage stamp and in shades of gray comparativly speaking.  
Not for me the mindset of a small town bigot.


LOL Lazs!
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I can't believe that beet has been to Texas and still doesn't appreciate the scale of the place...Texas goes from ocean to desert. A person could spend a great deal of his life exploring Texas and never really know it all.
TX has an area of about 268,000 square miles. That's about the size of England and France put together, and therefore "A person could spend a great deal of his life exploring England and France,  and never really know it all". I live in England and I've lived in France, and regularly make trips between the two even to this day. So what's your point?

As for not having an appreciation of the scale of a place, YOU were the one who went to Scotland thinking it was a "tiny little island", blissfully unaware that Scotland is in fact made up of about 200 islands. I guess you never did find the other 199.
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Texas goes from ocean to desert.
That is no indicator of size. I went to Tenerife last month, an island less than 100 miles from end to end - and it has ocean, beaches, alpine forests, volcanic desert, cactus, and a whopping great 12,000ft snow capped mountain in the middle. Again, what was your point?
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rampant socialism and crime.
Tell us again - what are your reasons for thinking of leaving Kalifornia and relocating to TX? Something to do with needing permits for everything, and being governed by women? :D
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on February 25, 2006, 11:43:52 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Is that site in your favorites list next to http://www.stevierayvaughn.com?


Is ignorance Contagious?
Where are you people getting this stuff from?
Im more of a merle haggard fan sorry to dissapoint you.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 25, 2006, 11:57:27 AM
yep.. that is why I am leaving kalifornia... because of the socialism... even at it's worst tho... it is nothing as bad as england.

do you denny that it would take a persons whole life to get to know 268,000 square miles?

Texas is larger than entgland and france combined.. that is true.   one state is bigger than two countries?

I did not explore any of the islands in Scotland.. the country was cold and windy enough without seeing the little islands.

my point on "ocean to desert" was not of scale but of variety.   When you add this variety to the fact of scale... well... you can see why it is worth exploring.

My point is that it is no less worthy or important to explore the place you live than to travel.

I have allways felt that your-0-peans traveled so much is because their countries offered so little.

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Sandman on February 25, 2006, 12:02:50 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I can't believe that beet has been to Texas and still doesn't appreciate the scale of the place...

just the small area of Texas that skuzzy suggested I look at is a trip of over 500 miles.    Texas goes from ocean to desert.   A person could spend a great deal of his life exploring Texas and never really know it all.
...

lazs


The same can be said for California. ;)

I'm not a big fan of the major metro areas, but I do love the Eastern Sierra. I'll admit, that until I lived in Virginia for a year, I didn't really appreciate it as much.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 25, 2006, 01:05:56 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
do you denny that it would take a persons whole life to get to know 268,000 square miles?
I'm saying that TX is not as big as you portray it. You're carrying on as if TX is HUGE... but size is relative. By your definition, the whole UK is a "tiny little island", and yet the UK plus France occupy an area bigger than Texas. By age 14 I'd been to every county in England. France is more than twice the size, but I'd say you could have a pretty good idea of the place within the average lifespan.
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I have allways felt that your-0-peans traveled so much is because their countries offered so little.
You're quite right about the Scottish weather. I stood on the top of Ben Nevis last September and my hands were too cold to eat my lunch - had to eat with my Thinsulate gloves on! :lol But I think you're wrong about the reasons to travel. Folks in this country typically get 6 weeks paid holiday a year as compared with a typical 2 week vacation allowance in the US, and the work week is normally 35 hours, not 40 hours in the US. Admittedly, the cold dark days of winter (with 4pm sunsets) get me down, so I went to Tenerife to warm up! - T-shirts and shorts all year round in the Canaries... :cool:
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 25, 2006, 03:02:40 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Not for me the mindset of a small town bigot.
 


Understandable from a socialist who`s opinions are made for them.

[QUOTEI'm saying that TX is not as big as you portray it. You're carrying on as if TX is HUGE... but size is relative. By your definition, the whole UK is a "tiny little island", [/QUOTE]

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UK plus France occupy an area bigger than Texas.



:rofl :aok   LMAO Gosh, golly gee...........The UK Plus France occupy a larger area than ONE of our states......Texas. Get some tiger. :aok  You ever notice that you have a very good way of making other people`s points for them? :lol
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on February 25, 2006, 04:35:56 PM
LOL yeah tell me how small Tx is the next time you drive across it.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 25, 2006, 04:54:51 PM
Jackall - so now you're expanding your catchment area to be TX.... and some surrounding states? :lol Like I said a LONG time ago - the US occupies only 2% of the earth's surface - and that includes Alaska. In the grand scheme of things, it's not that grand.  :aok

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LOL yeah tell me how small Tx is the next time you drive across it.
Well, I drove right across France and back to my home in England - it took about 12 hours of driving time. I'm sure TX would present no problem at all.  :D
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: midnight Target on February 25, 2006, 04:55:28 PM
Drove from my house in California once to visit my Dad in San Antonio. El Paso was the 1/2 point.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 25, 2006, 05:47:11 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Drove from my house in California once to visit my Dad in San Antonio. El Paso was the 1/2 point.


I've been planning my trip and El Paso is about a 12-13 hour drive from here, with San Anonio being another 8-9 hours away.  Keep in mind i'm making this trip in a Uhaul following my wife who will have 2 kids in the car.  There doesn't seem to be a better stopping point but that first day is going to be grueling.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: rpm on February 25, 2006, 06:03:26 PM
Are you coming across I-40 or I-10? I can suggest some sideshows along each to keep the kiddos pacified.

See "THE THING?" 200 miles ahead.

Visit "THE THING?" 180 miles ahead.

Experience...well, you get the picture.
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/37677934-S.jpg)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on February 25, 2006, 06:16:31 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
Are you coming across I-40 or I-10? I can suggest some sideshows along each to keep the kiddos pacified.

See "THE THING!" 200 miles ahead.

Visit "THE THING!" 180 miles ahead.

Experience...well, you get the picture.
 


Except for a few highways the first hour or two it's gonna be I-10 the ENTIRE way.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=edwards,+ca+93523&daddr=san+antonio,+tx+78254&ll=30.562261,-106.12793&spn=21.186517,35.244141
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on February 25, 2006, 06:36:20 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Jackall - so now you're expanding your catchment area to be TX.... and some surrounding states? :lol Like I said a LONG time ago - the US occupies only 2% of the earth's surface - and that includes Alaska. In the grand scheme of things, it's not that grand.  :aok

 Well, I drove right across France and back to my home in England - it took about 12 hours of driving time. I'm sure TX would present no problem at all.  :D


France has a desert? and 115 degree temps;)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: rpm on February 25, 2006, 07:19:36 PM
The Thing is near Benson, Az. Neat little tourist trap in the middle of nowhere.

If you spend the night in El Paso, take a quick trip across the border. Everyone has to go to Juarez once.

There's a cool car museum and home of a NASCAR Truck team in Ozona, Tx.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: guttboy on February 25, 2006, 10:04:41 PM
Gunslinger,

I make the drive from San Antonio to Albuquerque and back every month.

I dont go through El Paso though...I cut north at Fort Stockton and go up through Carlsbad, Roswell, to I40 and then into ABQ.

When you get about 10 miles east of Ft Stockton on I-10 you will see the huge wind farm on the north side of the highway....pretty cool and lasts for miles.

Good luck on your trip and let us know how it goes!

Regards,

mike
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: guttboy on February 25, 2006, 10:09:29 PM
Another bit of advice....

The speed limit drops in Kerr county to 70 mph daytime....watch out cuz the troopers are strict....I know first hand.

Also,  If you will be driving at night on I-10 be very careful from Ft Stockton on to San Antonio.   The deer are everywhere.  I avoid night driving that stretch because of the deer problem.

I counted (yes I was very bored) 157 dead carcasses on my side of the road from the 300 mile stretch between Fort Stockton and San Antonio on my last trip 2 weeks ago.  BE CAREFUL.  I also missed one about 1 foot from my driver mirror three trips ago....it was just standing in the middle of the road.

Mike
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 26, 2006, 04:22:44 AM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
LOL yeah tell me how small Tx is the next time you drive across it. ... France has a desert? and 115 degree temps
One of those drives across France was actually to get to Spain. France and Spain combine to fill an area of over 400,000 square miles (as compared with ~268,000 for TX), so yes I know what it's like doing those long drives. Don't know about France, but Spain certainly has desert, and the 1960s Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns were filmed there. What are 115 degree temps? That's hotter than it gets anywhere in the world. Oh wait, you meant 46° - it certainly gets over 40° in Spain, France too I believe...

Did someone say Carlsbad? Been there, done the caves... but I think there's another Carlsbad in CA?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 26, 2006, 08:51:52 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Keep in mind i'm making this trip in a Uhaul following my wife who will have 2 kids in the car.  


Hehe! My brother and myself left Sweetwater, Tx. one pleasant day with the temp about 110 or so. We were in a n old Uhaul with no AC. The wife, my sister-in-law and our dog were in  our car keeping pace with us. They had a cooler in the car and would pull up beside us sipping cold drinks enjoying the AC just to rub it in. The Uhaul seemed to be missing most of the firewall insulation so it was like being in a blast furnace on wheels. :D
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: rpm on February 26, 2006, 09:50:53 AM
Try driving a 1974 Freightliner cabover with no a/c across the desert sometime.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 26, 2006, 10:03:41 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
Try driving a 1974 Freightliner cabover with no a/c across the desert sometime.


Hehe. I drove a non-AC Mack a couple of years in west Texas in my younger days. Never again. :)
There was a guy in Wolfe City who asked me to haul a load of honey bees from Navasota , Texas to North Dakota in one of his trucks one time. Luckily he had a load of paper products to be picked up in Dallas and brought back to a printing company before I got to the bees. :) He had put the truck together himself. It was a CO Freightliner with a 350 Cummins. He had failed to put the insulation between the floor and cab in while he was creating. :) On the short trip to Dallas and back my feet got blistered through my boots. I respectfully (not) told him what he could do with his Fruitliner and fricking bees.  :lol
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 26, 2006, 10:04:25 AM
beet.... england would fall into Texas and dissapear... it would be a small part of Texas with universaly bad weather.

Travel is good...  people travel to see new things.   Someone else pointed out  that england had the most boring people on earth...  that is a good reason to travel from there.   The U.S. is compossed of states  it is as beet says... only 2% of the earths surface (course 66% is water but that is hard to vacation on).    Most Americans have been to Mexico and Canada... The North American continent is frigging huge and very diverse.  

Flying around and checking out the resteraunts and wine sellers in every major city or looking at their attractions is not seeing the country.   Some travel that way tho... others exscew the touristy stuff and make their own way...  the latter is more expensive and time consuming and you don't see as much but.... ultimately more satisfying.

I think I might have got a better idea of Dallas say by hanging out with the modified Healey guys at a car event and doing some street racing and such than by visiting some famous resteraunt or tourist trap.

conversely... if you travel it is fine to get on the tour bus and get an overview of the city and some history. but... I don't think the latter tells you much more than a book would.

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 26, 2006, 10:11:53 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
beet.... england would fall into Texas and dissapear


At which point it would be promptly set upon with much glee and destroyed by us redneck, small town bigots. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Toad on February 26, 2006, 10:12:13 AM
"The sun has rizz, the sun has setsez,
Drove all day, still in Texas".

Ain't THAT the truth.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 26, 2006, 10:17:45 AM
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Originally posted by Toad
"The sun has rizz, the sun has setsez,
Drove all day, still in Texas".

Ain't THAT the truth.


Brownsville to Dalhart driving mileage 961.3 miles.
But hey...it`s not all that grand . :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Curval on February 26, 2006, 10:22:35 AM
I went to Ocean City Maryland some years back.

First time I went I did the tourist trap nonsense on the boardwalk.  It SUCKED.

Next time I went to a bar full of locals who were big into sailing.  I think I bought one drink all night...and ended up hurling in the bathroom of the bar.  I "think" I had a great time.

Regardless....I know all about Maryland now.  Those yachting types are PERFECT examples of the average Maryland residents.  It was like a cross section of the entire Maryland population.  

P.S. Given that you can fit 2 Texas into Ontario, the latter must be twice as great.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 26, 2006, 11:38:10 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
beet.... england would fall into Texas and dissapear...  
...and TX would have bad indigestion! :lol You're right in a way - I firmly believe that the only way to really know a country is to live there, and have to use their language as you go about your daily business. One thing I know for sure is that you cannot rely on news media in one country to report accurately the events in another. I always remember when I lived in CA, not that far from where Lazs lives now. It was 1981, and the local rag was reporting an incipient civil war in Britain! (The Toxteth/Croxteth unemployment riots) I phoned my brother and he said naaah, just a few bananas having a punch up with the police, and a spate of copycat riots...
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Brownsville to Dalhart driving mileage 961.3 miles.
But hey...it`s not all that grand .
Calais, France to Seville, Spain - 1012 miles. Hmm, didn't seem that far... Didn't know there was a Sweetwater, TX - but I've been to Sweetwater, TN. Some interesting caves there.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Krusher on February 26, 2006, 12:28:40 PM
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Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Krusher on February 26, 2006, 12:42:28 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
One of those drives across France was actually to get to Spain. France and Spain combine to fill an area of over 400,000 square miles (as compared with ~268,000 for TX), so yes I know what it's like doing those long drives. Don't know about France, but Spain certainly has desert, and the 1960s Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns were filmed there. What are 115 degree temps? That's hotter than it gets anywhere in the world. Oh wait, you meant 46° - it certainly gets over 40° in Spain, France too I believe...

Did someone say Carlsbad? Been there, done the caves... but I think there's another Carlsbad in CA?


just an fyi~
It's almost 900 miles from El Paso to Beaumont, around 14 hours of driving. Thats just shy of state line to state lane. It is about as far from Los Angles CA. to El Paso TX as it is from El Paso to Houston.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 26, 2006, 12:47:14 PM
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Originally posted by Krusher
just an fyi~
It's almost 900 miles from El Paso to Beaumont, around 14 hours of driving. Thats just shy of state line to state lane. It is about as far from Los Angles CA. to El Paso TX as it is from El Paso to Houston.
Must be a winding road, because the straight line distance between El Paso and Beaumont is 739 miles.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 26, 2006, 04:59:34 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
 Calais, France to Seville, Spain - 1012 miles.  


Two countries, not one state. I could quote the distance from Moscow to Mexico City, but I don`t see where it would pertain to Texas.

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Didn't know there was a Sweetwater, TX  [/B]
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West of Abilene. Take my word for it. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 26, 2006, 05:34:01 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Two countries, not one state. I could quote the distance from Moscow to Mexico City, but I don`t see where it would pertain to Texas.
...and your point is - ? Look at it this way, Jack. You have a 268,000 sq. mile area which you consider as your "back yard". Fine, and it just so happens that every sq. mile within this piece of real estate is known collectively by a single name - Texas. Well, I consider places like France/Spain as my back yard. I go there often, and have legal entitlement to live in either one if I so choose. Contrary to what you might think, I don't have to seek permission from HM the Queen! That particular back yard is 400,000+ sq. miles. The point is that some people are gasping about the size of Texas, and how long it takes to drive across, but hey - my back yard is more diverse. Travelling from home to central Spain, I would encounter four different languages - English, French, Spanish and Catalan. Our man CyranoAH speaks all four, and speaks them well!:eek: I last did this journey in 2002. A 6 hour ferry journey, then two overnight stops - Chartres and Carcasonne, rolling into Spain on Day3. Total round trip mileage ~2400.

I'm sure TX is very nice, but please don't tell me that it's the only place in the world where you can go for a long drive. Because it isn't.

:p


And now, I must rest my head. My friend will be coming in from Miami early tomorrow morning. Have a wonderful evening. :D

Toodle Pip.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Skuzzy on February 26, 2006, 09:20:22 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
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Beet1e, the culture is more diverse than in England, but it is also spread all over the state.  The few places you listed as visiting cover a small percentage of the social and cultural diversity in this state.

Please understand, I am not putting England down at all.  I really enjoyed the trips to England.

Also note, the size of Texas helps to explain the diverse the cliamte one can experience here, but it also hides other diversities.  The strong Germanic an Asian communities, along with thier culture would have been missed where you visited.  And that is just the tip of the iceberg.

Point being, in its size, lies a diverse population and cultures.  You cannot hope to experience Texas by visiting a few of the cities here.  I have been here all my life and still am surprised by how much more I still have to learn about this state.  And I have been everywhere in this state.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: rpm on February 26, 2006, 10:47:35 PM
If we're going to get into a Texas vs England debate, I think Gary P. Nunn said it best:

LONDON HOMESICK BLUES
(Gary P. Nunn)

Well, when you're down on your luck,
and you ain't got a buck,
in London you're a goner.
Even London Bridge has fallen down,
and moved to Arizona,
now I know why.
And I'll substantiate the rumor
that the English sense of humor
is drier than the Texas sand.
You can put up your dukes,
and you can bet your boots,
that I'm leavin' just as fast as I can.

Chorus;
I wanna go home with the armadillo.
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene.
The friendliest people and the prettiest women
you've ever seen.

Well it's cold over here, and I swear,
I wish they'd turn the heat on.
And where in the world is that English girl,
I promised I would meet on the third floor.
And of the whole damn lot, the only friend I got,
is a smoke and a cheap guitar.
My mind keeps roamin', my heart keeps longin'
to be home in a Texas bar.

Chorus

Well, I decided that, I'd get my cowboy hat
and go down to Marble Arch Station.
'Cause when a Texan fancies, he'll take his chances,
and chances will be takin, now that's for sure.
And them Limey eyes, they were eyein' a prize,
that some people call manly footwear.
And they said you're from down South,
and when you open your mouth,
you always seem to put your foot there.

Chorus
Chorus
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Krusher on February 27, 2006, 07:10:25 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Must be a winding road, because the straight line distance between El Paso and Beaumont is 739 miles.



map (http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?newaddr=&taddr=&csz=El+Paso%2C+TX&country=us&tcsz=BEAUMONT%2C+TX&tcountry=us&terr=3013)

its 832 by the map, if you want to be picky. El Paso is about 30 miles from one end of town to the other. I based my milage on the trip I made 3 times a week. And it was just shy of 900 miles. But then I didn't drive zip to zip.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: culero on February 27, 2006, 07:34:20 AM
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Originally posted by Krusher
map (http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?newaddr=&taddr=&csz=El+Paso%2C+TX&country=us&tcsz=BEAUMONT%2C+TX&tcountry=us&terr=3013)

its 832 by the map, if you want to be picky. El Paso is about 30 miles from one end of town to the other. I based my milage on the trip I made 3 times a week. And it was just shy of 900 miles. But then I didn't drive zip to zip.


Its farther north to south - check Brownsville TX to Dalhart TX (http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?newaddr=&taddr=&csz=brownsville+tx&country=us&tcsz=dalhart+tx&tcountry=us) at 961 miles.

culero
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 27, 2006, 07:58:39 AM
If spain and france are englands playground then I would suppose you would have to say that the other states and mexico and canada and central and south America are all Texas playground... all driving country.   No airlines required (save hawaii)

lazs
Title: Texas style
Post by: Timofei on February 27, 2006, 01:48:39 PM
In 2000, Texas alone, one state out of 50, was responsible for 47 percent of the executions in America. Here are the best estimates for numbers per capita (using the highest guess, not from Amnesty, of 1,700 executions in China -- the number that sent the human-rights people into a frenzy over the Beijing Olympics): Iran executes one for every 874,000 people, China executes one for every 742,000 people, Texas executes one for every 521,000, and the Saudis one for every 170,000. So we're not rock bottom, we're doing better than the Saudis -- a role normally played for us by Mississippi. Let's not try for the Olympics anytime soon.

http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/1/2001/660
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Skuzzy on February 27, 2006, 02:02:57 PM
Only 47%?!?!?  Dang, we are slipping!  Ya know, if we automate the process more, we might be able to up that percentage by a hefty amount.  Of course, if the lawyers and courts would get out of the way, I bet we could make 75% easy. :)
Title: Do you remember this quote from The Simpsons?
Post by: xrtoronto on February 27, 2006, 02:06:31 PM
(http://www.cardsquad.com/images/2005/10/wiggum.gif)

"No one is going to convict a baby. ummm....maybe Texas."
Title: Re: Texas style
Post by: Gunslinger on February 27, 2006, 02:06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Timofei
In 2000, Texas alone, one state out of 50, was responsible for 47 percent of the executions in America. Here are the best estimates for numbers per capita (using the highest guess, not from Amnesty, of 1,700 executions in China -- the number that sent the human-rights people into a frenzy over the Beijing Olympics): Iran executes one for every 874,000 people, China executes one for every 742,000 people, Texas executes one for every 521,000, and the Saudis one for every 170,000. So we're not rock bottom, we're doing better than the Saudis -- a role normally played for us by Mississippi. Let's not try for the Olympics anytime soon.

http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/1/2001/660


That's a pretty stupid way to compare statistics.  One a country with BILLION pluss population the other has over 60 million while Texas has about 20 million.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 27, 2006, 02:09:55 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Beet1e, the culture is more diverse than in England, but it is also spread all over the state.  The few places you listed as visiting cover a small percentage of the social and cultural diversity in this state.

Please understand, I am not putting England down at all.  I really enjoyed the trips to England.
Well thanks for your reply - at least you have been to England and therefore know what you're talking about. I actually travelled across TX on an organised tour in a Dodge Maxiwagon (no a/c!) in 1978. I listed the places whose names I could remember. I've been back only once since - in 2001  -when I was visiting a friend in Houston, and made a side trip to Austin.
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its 832 by the map, if you want to be picky. El Paso is about 30 miles from one end of town to the other. I based my milage on the trip I made 3 times a week. And it was just shy of 900 miles. But then I didn't drive zip to zip. - krusher
Yes, but you're using a road map. Like I said, roads can twist and turn. I gave 739 miles as the straight line distance between El Paso and Beaumont, which is a lot different from the 900 quoted earlier. The coordinates I used for El Paso were 31:50:57N,106:26:15W and for Beaumont 30:05:16N,94:08:40W. I googled up three different great circle distance calculators and got results between 737 and 739 miles. Too much time on my hands!!
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 27, 2006, 02:11:18 PM
I'm confused...  Is the guy saying that Texas is better or worse for the amount of executions?

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Skuzzy on February 27, 2006, 02:36:32 PM
Better? Worse?  Did not occur to me to think in terms like that.  I had thought we were pretty efficient at keeping the death row numbers in check so they do not grow out of control.

Apparently, we need to work on it some more.  I'll write a letter.  Thank you for bringing this short coming to my attention Timofei.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 27, 2006, 02:42:20 PM
well.... like in most things.... Texas does seem to be pretty pratical and fair and common sensical about the whole execution thing...

If you are gonna have the death penalty then you really should use it.

I like Texas more and more.

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Krusher on February 27, 2006, 02:46:40 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Yes, but you're using a road map. Like I said, roads can twist and turn. I gave 739 miles as the straight line distance between El Paso and Beaumont, which is a lot different from the 900 quoted earlier. The coordinates I used for El Paso were 31:50:57N,106:26:15W and for Beaumont 30:05:16N,94:08:40W. I googled up three different great circle distance calculators and got results between 737 and 739 miles. Too much time on my hands!!



Uhhh yea, we try and use the highway system here, but if you can drive a straight line have at it. :aok
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 27, 2006, 03:05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Krusher
Uhhh yea, we try and use the highway system here, but if you can drive a straight line have at it. :aok
Highway system? Oh, OK. Much of my touring of my favourite playground country - France - has been by private plane. We use straight line/great circle distances for that. :D
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Sandman on February 27, 2006, 03:07:48 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I'm confused...  Is the guy saying that Texas is better or worse for the amount of executions?

lazs


I assume that most of the people executed in Texas ARE Texans, so it has to be a good thing. ;)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Skuzzy on February 27, 2006, 03:20:18 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
I assume that most of the people executed in Texas ARE Texans, so it has to be a good thing. ;)
We do not care where you are from, we will happily execute anyone, from anywhere.  Besides, not that many native Texans around.  We seem to be a popular place to migrate to.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: rpm on February 27, 2006, 05:55:04 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Besides, not that many native Texans around.  We seem to be a popular place to migrate to.
Amen to that brother. It's getting crowded for us natives.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 27, 2006, 06:22:48 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
I assume that most of the people executed in Texas ARE Texans, so it has to be a good thing. ;)
:rofl


;)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Waffle on February 27, 2006, 06:28:16 PM
If anyone wants that desert / movie history / X-files / cowboy cuisine / and a small bar weekend, Alpine Texas and Marfa, Texas is the place.


Kinda of a sleepy town, near Big Bend National Park - but pretty interesting for a weekend...but the drive will kill ya...lol
"Giant" (James Dean) was filmed  there, and the Marfa lights are kinda eeerie. Some good eating down there (http://www.reata.net  - check out the recipes area of that site: cantelope ice cream! ) and some small bars/live music places.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: RedTop on February 27, 2006, 06:59:33 PM
Beet......We won't miss ya if ya don't come back.

1 state among 50 thats bigger than 2 countries you seem to think so much of.

ITS BIG !!!!!!   I been to 30 states so far...this is the BEST ONE. No need to travel anywhere out of need really.

Austin......Great Hospitals (Seton being best I think)....Great Higher Education Schools. ( U T being the best I think) Great diversity in food. ALL KINDS.

30 golf courses in the area of me within say 20 minutes drive. 300 probably within a 100 miles.

Lakes out the whaaazoooo. Hill Country to oceans. Desert to the plains. (Only 1 tree in the panhandle tho:rofl )

People from all over the US coming here to live.

Williamson county (the one I live in) was the fastest growing county in the US for a while.

We have EVERYTHING here.

I'm all for just suceeding and becoming the the country of TEXAS.:)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 27, 2006, 07:14:32 PM
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Originally posted by RedTop
Beet......We won't miss ya if ya don't come back.
Who's "we"? You and your boyfriend?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Sikboy on February 27, 2006, 07:17:35 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Yep,

I plan on sittin on my porch with my rifle and picking off libruls while laughing hysterically.

I figger I'll fit right in.


MT's never had an original thought in his life. He's just stalking me again.

-Sik
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Sandman on February 27, 2006, 07:58:51 PM
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Originally posted by Sikboy
MT's never had an original thought in his life. He's just stalking me again.

-Sik


****... how long have you been in Texas?

Graduate already?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Sikboy on February 27, 2006, 08:05:20 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
****... how long have you been in Texas?

Graduate already?


Been here since September. I'm at SMU now, still another year until graduation.

Life is strange, though sometimes when you fall hard, you bounce high.

-Sik
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 27, 2006, 08:11:42 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
...and your point is - ?  


Well, I sorta thought it was self evident. We were talking about the size of Texas. You are quoting from distances in two countries.( I dpn`t` think anyone knows why because it doesn`t pertain to Texas) Texas, ya know ...the big ole state across the pond.

 
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Look at it this way, Jack. You have a 268,000 sq. mile area which you consider as your "back yard". Fine, and it just so happens that every sq. mile within this piece of real estate is known collectively by a single name - Texas. Well, I consider places like France/Spain as my back yard.  That particular back yard is 400,000+ sq. miles.



Yea, that`s nice Beet. Thanks for sharing. :rolleyes:  You will notice that you have once again refered to multiple countries. What we are talking about here is Texas. One state. I could start in Canada I guess and travel through Mexico , down to passable reachs of S.A. and it would be a pretty good drive I suspect. You know what? It still doesn`t have beans to do with the size of Texas?

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Travelling from home to central Spain, I would encounter four different languages - English, French, Spanish and Catalan.


Wow! For real? I can travel from my home to the local post office and encounter a great number of different languages on the earth. Very annoying. In Texas we only reckonize one language...Texican. "Maureen what the hell is escargot?" "Luke it is a French dish made with snails."  "Snails??  The dang French put em on the menu and we pour salt on em to keep em out of the garden. Dang silly furners." :)

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Our man CyranoAH speaks all four, and speaks them well!


He from Texas? )

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I'm sure TX is very nice, but please don't tell me that it's the only place in the world where you can go for a long drive. Because it isn't.


OK Beet. Settle down. I promise we won`t tell you that.

Someone might wanna keep a little thorazine handy just in case this condition worsens.

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A 6 hour ferry journey, then two overnight stops - Chartres and Carcasonne, rolling into Spain on Day3. Total round trip mileage ~2400.


All that roaming around and you still didn`t make it to Texas.  I`ll send ya a map if you promise not to use it. :rofl

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The point is that some people are gasping about the size of Texas, and how long it takes to drive across, but hey - my back yard is more diverse.  


I haven`t seen anyone "gasping" about the size of Texas. I have seen a few loosely veiled whines and jealousies popping out here and ther, but hey, they are not from Texas so it don`t matter. :)
I do see people in this thread talking about the size of Texas and it`s vastness and yes it is a huge state. See, we are talking ONE state here...Texas. I`m not sure exactly what you are calling diverse , but one thing Texas definetly has is diversity.

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And now, I must rest my head.


Yea, that seems like a good idea. And once again , I promise we will not tell you that Texas is the only place you can go for a long drive. Really. I promise, but if you ever want to go on a long drive in Texas...Man you picked the right state. This place is fricken HUGE. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Sikboy on February 27, 2006, 08:22:31 PM
"quote" is just next to "edit"

Just sayin'

-Sik
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Rolex on February 27, 2006, 08:25:56 PM
I've been lucky enough in my life to have set foot in all 50 states in the US. I've spent time in Dallas/FW, Houston, Austin (nice, NICE place) and spent a month one day in Amarillo (:D ) and few other places. For my money, Texas is way better than most and an easy place to get used to.

Good luck and congratulations on the house, Gunslinger.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Wolf14 on February 27, 2006, 08:31:23 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
...not that many native Texans around.  We seem to be a popular place to migrate to.


A few months back a nice couple I am friends with were moving to Texas from Colorado. They wanted to know if there was anything they had to do to be Texans. I told them like anywhere you had to have been born there and lived there a good bit.

The lady got a sad look and said that she guessed that counted them out. I told her no that as long as they stayed friendly and not gloat about how much better another state was they'd fit in fine and eventualy develop a drawl of their own.

She then asked me what happens to people who gloat about other states being better. I told her that most are told among other things, that if the other state is so good then git the hell outta here and go back.

She laughed till she cried and her husband has one of those good hearty laughs and he had the walls shaking.


I was in Virginia a while back and had a little girl ask my why I talked so funny. I told her that I was born in Texas, How else was I supposed to talk. She looked at her mom and asked where Texas was.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: RedTop on February 27, 2006, 08:45:55 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Who's "we"? You and your boyfriend?



Well No...but I can send ya down to 6th street if you ever get to Austin and you can hook up with a few flamers if ya like. Probably be right up your alley so to speak.

Me ,  I do women....Without having to hit em even.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Wolf14 on February 27, 2006, 08:50:29 PM
Dang Red you ruined it already. Your just supposed to send him down the street and tell him to pick up some of the hotties on the corners. He's got an 80 percent chance of scoring a heshe. He just wont know till they are behind the dumpster.

Gotta leave some suprises in there you know.  

:)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: guttboy on February 27, 2006, 08:54:34 PM
But Skuzzy you havent been to MY house!!!!!

Drop in any time!!!:D
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: midnight Target on February 27, 2006, 10:08:24 PM
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Originally posted by Sikboy
MT's never had an original thought in his life. He's just stalking me again.

-Sik


I knew I'd track you down boy!
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 28, 2006, 03:28:14 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Well, I sorta thought it was self evident. We were talking about the size of Texas. You are quoting from distances in two countries.( I dpn`t` think anyone knows why because it doesn`t pertain to Texas) Texas, ya know ...the big ole state across the pond.
Yes, I'm aware of the geographical entity being discussed in this thread. The discussion has sort of wandered onto a comparison between Texas and England - LOL - and I am more qualified to pontificate in that because I have been to Texas, whereas you have never been to England, or to any other European country I mentioned. CMIIW.

What you have to remember, jackall, is that "Texas" is a man-made geographical definition of a particular area. As such, its size is no more relevant than any other geographical entity, eg. "France and Spain". You then stated, incorrectly, that I was "someone who`s "backyard" is the size of a postage stamp". You really need to brush up on your history, jackall, and drag yourself out of the 16th century. Did you ever hear of the 1957 Treaty of Rome, and why it was created? Are you aware of the existence of the European Union and what it means? In a nutshell, it means any EU citizen (yes that's right, citizen - that's the C-word in my passport) has the legal right to live in any other member state. Thus, I am free to enter France, Spain, Portugal or any of the other member states. I do not need permission to do this. I do not need an exit visa from Britain. I do not need a note from the queen. I can buy property there and settle there if I so choose. And, someone doing this would enjoy the freedom of being unshackled from the tax system of his home country, a privilege which is not accorded to US citizens if they live abroad. Thus, my favourite "back yard" of France and the Iberian Peninsular occupies an area greater than 400,000 square miles, and I have as much right to be there as you have to be in Texas. The fact that this land mass constitutes multiple, man-defined "countries" is irrelevant to the discussion about the size of my "back yard", and the only reason I brought that up is because certain people from a certain state seem unable to grasp the fact that we in Europe as well as you in texas are familiar with those long journeys which are being discussed in here. The difference is that in general, we don't need to crow about it, and in any case the BBS rules prevent many from doing so in their mother tongue. In my flying days, I could take off from home base and touch down in France an hour later. In the early days there was a bit of form filling (temporary export of an aircraft - lol), flight plan (mandatory for crossing an international frontier, recommended for over water crossing) but that was all. Unless of course I were to be carrying an American passenger, which I sometimes did. A few extra forms, and sometimes an "interview" upon the homecoming.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 28, 2006, 06:24:08 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Yes, I'm aware of the geographical entity being discussed in this thread. The discussion has sort of wandered onto a comparison between Texas and England  


Well I can clear all that up for you then.
Texas/England comaprison 101

Texas = One of the states located in the U.S. The Lonestar state. Great place to live and visit with varied landscapes, weather patterns, cultures and a virtual who`s who of recreation, scenic interests and just about any activities that can possibly be named. My home for life because "we have it all".  Even though Texas is just ONE single state in the U.S. it`s size is quite vast, sometimes refered to as ..Fricken Huge. Even though Texas is just ONE of the states located in the U.S. it`s Fricken Huge size is larger than some of the more boring, uninteresting countries such as England for Example. The Fricken Huge size of this state and the many different landscapes and travel opportunities gives almost unlimited, continuing opportunities to explore , learn and enjoy the different aspects of this Fricken Huge , vast large, massive, geat big ole state. :) The Fricken Huge size of this ONE single state makes it near impossible for the average person to explore and experience everything it has to offer. The experiences offered by this .......ummmm.....Gigantic state are so virtualy unlimited that a person could travel it`s area for a lifetime and still not know but a percentage of everything Texas. Even lifelong residents , for the most part would not consider themselves experts on Texas. Certainly no foreign visitors who have visited Texas and viewed the limited area covered and the brevity of a tour on a "Hook A Furner" charter could lay claim to any mentionable knowledge of this Fricken Huge state.  As a Texas resident I have visited the Alamo on a few occasions and it was always a very enjoyable experience. Even though I have been to the Alamo, I have never made the claim that I am Jim Bowie, Houston or even Santa Anna for that matter. I have only visited the Alamo. That in no way makes me an expert on the Alamo. For me to do so so could be compared to a person from England viewing a very few limited places of Texas from a "Point, there, now pay me and go home Sucka" tour, then claiming to have as much as a working knowledge of anything Texas. The state is too Fricken Huge for short time tour hoppers to even grasp the grandess of the vast Lone Star State. Even the driving distances that can be obtained on the vast area of this Fricken Huge state boggles the mind of most wannabe experts that have made short visits from such boring and uninteresting countries such as England, for example. Some of these escapees from hell have even tryed to compare the vastness of this One, single , Fricken Huge State by combining square mileages obtained from multiple countries. The humor of such statements  and comparisons made by these poor uninformed and small thinking visitors are viewed by the good natured Texan as to be expected and only giggled at when in the company of
one or more U.S. citizens that actualy understands the vast grandness and uncomparable glory of this Fricken Huge state known as Texas. It is understood by the native Texan that people from such small countries usualy  have to consider multiple countries when planning any driving trips of any size and interests. The concept of such vastness and varying interests of this  state is  a "road to far"  to be expected of the poor unfortunate, small thinking escapes from across the pond. The pure Fricken Hugeness of this ONE state is just too much for them to grasp. For the most part, we are just proud that these less fortunate had the opportunity to visit such a large and interesting place such as our wonderfull and interesting state even if upon such a minute visit. The residents of Texas are blessed with the fact that there is so much to see and so many totaly different, exciting and interesting things to do in this Fricken Huge state that if one desired to do so you could experience a lifetime of travel and entertainment and never leave the boundaries of this ONE single state. For those who are forced to leave their small countries to even attempt experiencing a small fraction of what can be experienced in our ONE single state, we feel sorrow and sadness. It has been noticed that some of the above mentioned visitors , even upon seeing  and witnessing such a microscopic portion of this great state has been so awed confused by it`s grandness that they have coped the only way possible and understandable to them. That being , when the subject of this state comes up in their presence they revert to thinly veiled jabs and jealousy to compensate for their knowledge and understanding of our way of life. Some of these poor misinformed souls have shown such a total lack of understanding of the many, varied things and experiences to be had here, within the borders of this Fricken Huge state that they have actualy suggested that you are an inferior, unexperienced, and untraveled human type unless you have numerous travel experiences in many countries. Some have even used a "I have been there, but you haven`t been here" line of logic to argue their lack of knowledge and understanding of such grandness. They seem to be not willing to, or unable to comprehend the fact that traveling to their homeland and surrounding areas offers absolutely nothing of interest to a great portion of Texas residents, or U.S. citizens in  general, to the point of even vagueley considering a trip to these locations. There are so many interesting and exciting places to see here and experience that very, very few find a need to travel to a location simply to say " I have been there".
Traveling to uninteresting, boring places simply for the act of bragging rights are not found feasible by a great deal of people from around the world, including residents of Texas. It must be terribly sad to jump from one drab location to another trying to occupy your time and experience anything entertaining. Most of us here travel to locations that are exciting and interesting to us. We travel for enjoyment, not the collection of location tags to places of no interest. It has been noted that some simply cannot stand the subject of the grand nature of Texas to be discussed to the point that they will, when all else fails and smokescreens have been exhausted and shot down, will resort to the interjection of non-pertaining , non-relevant text of great porportions in an attempt to conceal their lack of true knowledge of this Fricken Huge state known as Texas. (Note: Some of these text walls have approached the size of the above educational and informative report :)

ENGLAND = Look under TEXAS. It is the briefly noted small place mentioned of no interest. It simply cannot be compared to Texas. In Texas "we have it all". This place is Fricken Huge. England can be located on a globe or world map with the assistance of a magnifying glass. But hey..why would you want to.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: storch on February 28, 2006, 06:26:40 AM
holy smoke jackal what a wall of text ^^^^^,  travelling within the state of Florida from Pensacola to Key West would a tad longer than 800 miles, Travelling the length of California would be considerably more.  unless you live in Rhode Island or Delaware intrastate road travel anywhere in the US is a lengthy proposition.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: guttboy on February 28, 2006, 06:42:25 AM
Wow ....talk about a hijack of a thread........



Hmmmm....I know......maybe take it to the England Vs Texas area?????

I have been to both and lived in both.....doesnt make me an expert....but hey....Ill start a new thread for you all......


:huh
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 28, 2006, 06:51:57 AM
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Originally posted by storch
holy smoke jackal what a wall of text  


Just doing my part to share with the less fortunate.
I was going to post some helpfull pictures to make learning about Texas more fun and understandable to the less fortunate . I had to postpone those plans after totaly destroying my scanner trying to scan a picture of a Texas post card map. I soon realized the stupidiy of my mistake. The post card map was way too heavy. It weighed 35 lbs. Texas is just Fricken huge. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 28, 2006, 06:56:11 AM
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Originally posted by guttboy
Wow ....talk about a hijack of a thread........



Hmmmm....I know......maybe take it to the England Vs Texas area?????

I have been to both and lived in both.....doesnt make me an expert....but hey....Ill start a new thread for you all......


:huh


I don`t beleive that is workable guttboy. The mere subject of Texas is just too Fricken Huge to be covered in one thread. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: straffo on February 28, 2006, 07:14:48 AM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
France has a desert? and 115 degree temps;)


we have : http://www.sacredsites.com/europe/france/saintguilhem_le_desert.html

not the 115° :) (but 7° (http://www.epicurien.be/epicurien/biere.asp?bid=75))

or : Desert (http://www6.mappy.com/sidUtGLgq8LcHfMn21w/AFGM?recherche=0&posl=poi&show_poi=1&ids=0&poix=0&poiy=0&poi_rr=0.5&poi_rx=0.6&poi_ry=0.5&csl=m1&fsl=m1&gsl=m1&msl=m1&temp_no_prop=0&comment=&xsl=1&out=2&wnm1=&wcm1=&nom1=&tcm1=67905%3Ba10m1%3D&tnm1=desert&pcm1=&ccm1=250)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: straffo on February 28, 2006, 07:24:04 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Travelling from home to central Spain, I would encounter four different languages - English, French, Spanish and Catalan.  


You can add : Basque, Occitan,Gascon,Béarnais,Poitevin,Angevin,Gallo,Cauchois,Chtimi and Picard.

see : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Langues_de_la_France1.gif/603px-Langues_de_la_France1.gif
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 28, 2006, 08:25:45 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Just doing my part to share with the less fortunate.
ROFL - I enjoy my travels. I'm free to do it because I have the wherewithal and the time - and you don't. "We have everything we need right here"? You're not talking about oil are you? I shall think of that next week during my visit to the Middle East. Wonder how much of the oil I'll see being pumped will end up in 1950s American cars that get 5-6mpg. :lol

And... you're doing it again - comparing England with Texas. I've already made abundantly clear that my "back yard" extends far beyond England. But it's funny that you should post such a "know-it-all" wall of text about England/Europe when you've never even been here - priceless! Maybe, just maybe - you read a book about it? :rofl

Straffo - yes, I knew there were other languages that I'd missed, but didn't know all of them and/or whether they are dialects.

One of the reasons that there are so many international frontiers in so relatively small an area is because the peoples of those countries are very different, and hence there are many languages. The region is much older than any part of the USA and for these reasons, I personally believe that Europe is much more culturally diverse than... texas, which is 268,000 sq. miles of people speaking the same language, and there is much uniformity to other aspects of life there. No need to labour this point, as Jackall has already made it for me - LOL. YMMV, especially if you never leave your own "back yard", or... you live in texas ;):lol
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on February 28, 2006, 08:37:16 AM
again... beet... if your backyard extends beyond england then Texas backyard extends to all of North, Central and South America.  

enjoy your travels... we enjoy ours.

we enjoy our $2 a gallon gas in our 1950's cars that outperform anything england can build for twice the price.   If we need more... we just go to any city with a speed shop and drive out with 700-1000 hp or more and 1g or more of skidpad performance.    all for a few thousand dollars... you couldn't change the shocks on exotic brit cars for that.

The best engine you have is the 1962 buick v8 in your rovers.

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 28, 2006, 08:43:48 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
again... beet... if your backyard extends beyond england then Texas backyard extends to all of North, Central and South America.  

enjoy your travels... we enjoy ours.
I agree entirely, Lazs. And remember, you can also come over to England/Scotland and do a tour here - in fact you already have. (Look me up if you do another) And... I could, if I wanted, do an 1800 mile tour around New England taking in all 6 New England states - in fact I already have...

...all of which makes me scratch my head in the search for any sort of point that jackall might have. Thus far, his ramblings have been devoid of one.
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The best engine you have is the 1962 buick v8 in your rovers.
That 3.5 litre V8 was discontinued with the Rover SD1 in 1986.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: straffo on February 28, 2006, 09:03:24 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e
One of the reasons that there are so many international frontiers in so relatively small an area is because the peoples of those countries are very different, and hence there are many languages. The region is much older than any part of the USA and for these reasons, I personally believe that Europe is much more culturally diverse than... texas, which is 268,000 sq. miles of people speaking the same language, and there is much uniformity to other aspects of life there. No need to labour this point, as Jackall has already made it for me - LOL. YMMV, especially if you never leave your own "back yard", or... you live in texas ;):lol


I can't speak of England but in France by just doing a 100km trip you've likely crossed one or more former border :)
Title: Texas Laws
Post by: Timofei on February 28, 2006, 10:09:45 AM
Just FYI, In Texas:

One must acknowledge a supreme being before being able to hold public office.

It is illegal to take more than three sips of beer at a time while standing.

Up to a felony charge can be levied for promoting the use of, or owning more than six dildos.

The entire Encyclopedia Britannica is banned in Texas because it contains a formula for making beer at home.

Abilene:
It is illegal to idle or loiter anyplace within the corporate limits of the city for the purpose of flirting or mashing.

Austin:
Wire cutters can not be carried in your pocket.

Dallas:
It's illegal to possess realistic dildos.

Houston:
It is illegal to sell Limburger cheese on Sunday.Beer may not be purchased after midnight on a Sunday, but it may be purchased on Monday.

Lubbock County:
It is illegal to drive within an arm's length of alcohol - including alcohol in someone else's blood stream.

Mesquite:
It is illegal for children to have unusual haircuts.

Richardson:
It is illegal to do "U Turns".It is now illegal to place a "for sale" sign on a car if it visible from the street.

San Antonio:
It is illegal to urinate on the Alamo.
It is illegal for both sexes to flirt or respond to flirtation using the eyes and/or hands.

Texarkana:
Owners of horses may not ride them at night without tail lights.

"If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell."
  General Philip Sheridan
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: rpm on February 28, 2006, 10:28:14 AM
Does this mean we have a new breed of stalker now, the Texihater?
(Of all the quotes you could have dug up, you picked Sheridan? Weak, bro....weak.)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Bluedog on February 28, 2006, 10:34:16 AM
We have single cattle stations bigger than Texas.
:t
Never mind states.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Maverick on February 28, 2006, 11:21:37 AM
I find it more than a bit funny that someone thinks thay can come to the US, tour a few cities and or states and think they have a clue about the country. Since June 94 we've been traveling fulltime around the country. We've stopped for no more than a 2 month period in any area (to spoil grandkids) in the entire time. So far we've visited over 35 seperate  states seeing what we could.

At this time, after all of our travels, it is painfully obvious that we have only scratched the surface of what there is to see in this country. I would no more think I have seen all of a state by criss crossing it 4 times (Ohio for example) and staying in it, than I had explored the moon because I looked at it with a pair of binoculars a few nights and studied some pictures.  I have no idea how long we'll continue to see this country but I doubt we could see it all in our lifetimes.

I haven't seen England or any other member of the EU. There are a few things I would like to see there and they are almost all related to history I have read, ex: WW1 and WW2. I would love seeing Duxford, walk the beaches at Normandy, see the maginot line, Ardennes, Sigfried line and other spots. I'd also like to pay my respects to my fellow brothers in arms who sacrificed their all to help make those places sacred.

As far as other places there, I really haven't got much interest but that couyld change after I arrived and saw first hand what it is like.

Oh and beetle, one of the best things between Britain and the US is that you are there, and not here. Pontificate on about the US from your "extensive" experiances, it is most amusing.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Airscrew on February 28, 2006, 11:30:15 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e
....The region is much older than any part of the USA and for these reasons, I personally believe that Europe is much more culturally diverse than... texas, which is 268,000 sq. miles of people speaking the same language, and there is much uniformity to other aspects of life there....  


I think you are slightly off the mark with this comment.  Texas is very culturely diverse,  Texas was settled by Germans, Cechs, Polish, Irish, English, Spanish, Mexicans and others that I'm forgetting,  and they have greatly influenced how Texas has grown.   Also those languages are still spoken today, many communities in Texas still celebrate their customs from the 'Old World'  
I personally belong to a German club in Austin Saengerrunde.  http://www.main.org/asr/left.html
I don't sing (i barely remember any of the german I learned when I was in Germany) but I joined the club and bowl in the small bowling alley behind Schultz's Garden.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 28, 2006, 11:35:22 AM
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Originally posted by Maverick
I find it more than a bit funny that someone thinhks thay can come to the US, tour a few cities and or states and think they have a cclue about the country.
...and what I find even funnier is Texans who post walls of text about England when they've never been here at all! :rofl
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 28, 2006, 11:42:24 AM
Now to address the cunning and above average smoke screen of nothingness designed to baffle and redirect the lowly , average, small town bigot from actual subject matter and facts pertaining what is being discussed.
PART ONE

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Originally posted by beet1e

What you have to remember, jackall, is that "Texas" is a man-made geographical definition of a particular area. As such, its size is no more relevant than any other geographical entity, eg. "France and Spain".  


Speaking of being relevant I would like to point out that, once again, you are refering to two countries even when making non-relevant statements. The state of Texas is ONE, single state of the U.S. I know it baffles your mind seeing as you are used to experiencing things on a tiny scale. It`s really understandable due to the fact that Texas is Fricken Huge.
On a side note, if you could possibly give me some links to pictures of the men that dug the Rio Grande I would be much obliged. That must have been one monster of a project considering that Texas is a massive, Fricken Huge State.


(Note to the trainee in counter BBS, BS tactics. I point you to the use of the cleverly inserted, repetitive size comments designed to frustrate the foreign Ninja poster.)

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You then stated, incorrectly, that I was "someone who`s "backyard" is the size of a postage stamp"


I can only relate to size in Texas terms. Do you realize how Fricken Huge postage stamps are in Texas? I was going to mail you a letter with detailed info about Texas. I was not able to due to your country stating they could not spare the freighter.

(Trainee note: Note phase one of the counter , meaningless ramblings manuever. Very usefull against the slightly trained BS artist.)


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You really need to brush up on your history, jackall, and drag yourself out of the 16th century.


Speaking of the 16th century , I believe there were some places during that period who actualy stilll had Queens. Did you know that the knife that Jim Bowie chose to take to the Alamo would dwarf your average history book pertaining to England? A very wise choice to bring to Texas considering the massive size of the place, even at a time when those men had not completely settled on where they would magic marker the borders and such.

(Trainee note: Always counter a veiled, playground type mentality, insult with  a larger, more childish insult being sure to include an even more outlandish  line of fables that are unknown to the text warrior in question. This starts the process of revealing that you are well aware of the your opponent is untrained and made clear that he will pursue a line of attack designed to fill text space in an attempt to throw you off guard. The well trained and prepared BSer always has in his arsenal more meaningless drivel than his opponent. It helps immensely if you received your training in the art in the State of Texas. Texas is so Fricken Huge we have virtualy unlimited supplies of BS ammo and also have more professional BSers dating back to the very beginnings of the art.)


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Did you ever hear of the 1957 Treaty of Rome, and why it was created?


1957?
Did you know? ........After World War II, a group of former service pilots took to the air as crop dusters in Texas' Lower Rio Grande Valley. A handful of them pooled their money in 1957 to purchase a P-51D Mustang, one of the few surplus airplanes that had survived the war. As the pilots searched for other aircraft from the war era, they discovered that most had been destroyed. They vowed to find and preserve more W.W.II aircraft for future generations, and the Confederate Air Force was born. Today, those pilots have amassed ore than 140 aircraft in what has become the nation's most complete collection of flyable W.W.II combat aircraft. In 1989, the state recognized their historic contribution by naming the Confederate Air Force the official Air Force of Texas.
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Some pretty interesting history from Texas in the year 1957. Such history as this is viewed as very interesting to Texans and other citizens of the U.S.
When discussing the subject of Texas and it`s history and events of the year 1957 things of this nature are of relevance to the subject matter. That being Texas. Yes , there are some historic events that occured in 1957 from around the world, but as a rule, they do not pertain to Texas. I could have mentioned that Sputnik could be seen in the Texas sky in 1957, but Russian , ancient facts are not very interesting and bore most Texans when discussing Texas history. Most boring history facts from any year pertaining to boring locations around the world are overshadowed by the pure grandness of Texas history.
If you desire more interesting Texas history facts to rescue you from boredom...just ask. Texas, being so Fricken Huge is jam packed with interesting historical facts.

(Trainee note: Do not let yourself be lulled into the trap of boredom from a fact manuever designed to bore you to such extent you will either succumb to sleep or "blank stare" condition. Always counter this manuever with some brisk, interesting facts concerning the subject matter. This also serves the secondary purpose bringing your opponent out of a comatose like trance induced by his own boredom. Remember....a sluggish opponent is just too easy and dulls your BS skills)

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t means? In a nutshell, it means any EU citizen (yes that's right, citizen - that's the C-word in my passport) has the legal right to live in any other member state. Thus, I am free to enter France, Spain, Portugal or any of the other member states.


Here in the great state of Texas we have the legal right remain in Texas and live our life free from boring, uncomparable locations. It`s a great state this Texas.
In all fairness, a comparison to your legal right to enter France, Spain, Portugal, etc. in Texas we have a legal right to hit ourselves in the foot with a claw hammer at any given time we desire. See? We also have legal rights that are undesirable.

(Trainee note: When your opponent clearly makes an attempt to see if you can be swayed to view the negative and undesirable as positive and much sought after, immediately respond with an example to show him, once again, that his boring manuever did not suceed. You can also gain ground in the battle by taking this opportunity to insert some meaningless and cunning BS tactics.)

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I do not need permission to do this. I do not need an exit visa from Britain.


In Texas , we also do not have to seek permission to do such things as walk, talk, breathe, sleep and so on.
In comparison to your not needing a visa to exit Britain, we are allowed to make the choice of not  going to Britain. It really saves on paperwork and alleviates any sort of forced punishment for no reason.

( Trainee note: When you see your opponent forced to use such feable, pitifull attempts as the one above, show honor and mercy as a warrior and do not revert to LMAO Lame manuever at this point. He is clearly struggling and is about to dishonor himself in the field of battle. Allow him to honorably end his own misery. If the opponent respects your offer of honor keep your LMAO weapons holstered. If, on the other hand, your opponent chooses to continue his own dishonor , give him the treatment, both barrels, spare nothing. Use your LMAO, ROFLMAO and LAME attempt at full force)
Title: Re: Texas Laws
Post by: RedTop on February 28, 2006, 11:43:13 AM
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Originally posted by Timofei
Just FYI, In Texas:

One must acknowledge a supreme being before being able to hold public office.

It is illegal to take more than three sips of beer at a time while standing.

Up to a felony charge can be levied for promoting the use of, or owning more than six dildos.

The entire Encyclopedia Britannica is banned in Texas because it contains a formula for making beer at home.

Abilene:
It is illegal to idle or loiter anyplace within the corporate limits of the city for the purpose of flirting or mashing.

Austin:
Wire cutters can not be carried in your pocket.

Dallas:
It's illegal to possess realistic dildos.

Houston:
It is illegal to sell Limburger cheese on Sunday.Beer may not be purchased after midnight on a Sunday, but it may be purchased on Monday.

Lubbock County:
It is illegal to drive within an arm's length of alcohol - including alcohol in someone else's blood stream.

Mesquite:
It is illegal for children to have unusual haircuts.

Richardson:
It is illegal to do "U Turns".It is now illegal to place a "for sale" sign on a car if it visible from the street.

San Antonio:
It is illegal to urinate on the Alamo.
It is illegal for both sexes to flirt or respond to flirtation using the eyes and/or hands.

Texarkana:
Owners of horses may not ride them at night without tail lights.

"If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell."
  General Philip Sheridan


So your saying you won't be visiting our fine state. Darn...I'm all broke up about that.













Not !!!!!!!!!!!

Another so and so we here don't have to worry about.

This day is looking up every minute.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 28, 2006, 11:43:28 AM
PART TWO

QUOTE]I can buy property there and settle there if I so choose.[/QUOTE]

In Texas we can buy undesirable real estate at our own discretion also. We also have the right to "settle" there. Rarely do you see a family dwelling being erected at a refuse dump site, but we have the freedom to be as weird and tasteless as we desire on locations. The right is not used by the sane, but it is still our right as derogatory as it may seem.

(Trainee note: At this point it will come glaringly clear to you that your opponent has reached the point of dillusion. This will be indicated by his vague attempts to regain consciousness while making totaly simple and embarrasing comments. Remember to remain honorable even if to the point of near uncontrollable laughter. Remember, this opponent has only briefly visited Texas, so he can`t truly understand the comical nature of his comments.)

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And, someone doing this would enjoy the freedom of being unshackled from the tax system of his home country, a privilege which is not accorded to US citizens if they live abroad.


From a Texas standpoint if one of our native residents were to make  the decison to move and make his home in Cuba we would send him absolutely no tax bills. It is based on the principal that the self induced torture is a higher price to pay than any tax bills, anywhere. Also Texas uses a system known as 'common sense". This system would quickly define the fact that if a native Texan left and made his home in Cuba it would immediately become obvious he was no longer a resident of Texas. Pretty clever , huh? It`s really simple at it`s base. Texas = The Fricken Huge state easily located on a U.S. map. Cuba = that spot in the ocean on the map or the place that can be visibly tracked and located from Florida by the trail of it`s happy citizens taking pleasure cruises to the U.S. in battubs, car hoods, spare tires, etc.
Even though these provisions are made, they are a mute point, being more theoretical than actual. Anyone who has been a native of Texas, when left to their own choice and not forced against their will by forces not controlled by themselves, would not make the choice to leave and make their home in Cuba................or any other country as far as that goes. It`s not some secret to be unraveled and solved. If you are living in a wordly paradise such as Texas, you would certainly have no desire or need to move to any other country if the choice is left up to you. If at any time in Texas you decide you would like a totaly different set of circumstances , landscape or culture for the place to make your new home, you simply move to another location in Texas. You see, Texas is such a Fricken Huge state and has such diversity that you can find a location to fit any taste or desire.

(Trainee note: At this point , choice is left up to the individual text warrior. If you enjoy prolonging the torture, simply have a good laugh at your opponents obvious 180 turn on his own position and continue his agony.. On the other hand, if you are an aggresive style text Ninja you will go for the throat. This can easily done by snickering, laughing and other forms of humiliation while pointing out the fact to the opponent that he has obviously put in text a plan consisting of  possible destinations for his escape from the home that, up until this point he has proclaimed to the world is a piece of heaven accidently left on earth by the creator and only occupied by the chosen, elite and expert status on any subject,  such as himself.  If this is the path you choose, then the neon imposter, fraud and fake signs must be hung about the loathsome , soon to be, escapee. If your warrior clan resides in Texas you probably will want to take the opportunity to tell him your point has been glaringly amde by him. Restate the fact that Texans have no need of escape to find what they seek for total harmony and balnce. "Texas has it all" can now be smeared into the self defeated opponent.)



 
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Thus, my favourite "back yard" of France and the Iberian Peninsular occupies an area greater than 400,000 square miles


I must admit to a mistake on this point. I did not know , up until this point, that you were using "my back yard" as a code word for escape route. My humble apologies for this shortcoming. Now that you have openly commited to your escape intent plans from drab world I wish you the best and most boring, uneventfull paths for your quest. Realizing that the great vastness and diversity of my Fricken Huge home state  of Texas intimidates you with it`s greatness, I will not offer this as a choice for your escape. One has to get accustomed to greatness or it will truly overpower you. I will however put forth an offer of assistance and guidance. Seeing the destinations that you have chosen , I will tell you that if for some reason your plans of escape are foiled, I`m pretty sure I can get you a good deal on real estate in Siberia.

( Trainee note: A little light hearted exchange at this point will allow your self defeated opponent to partialy recover from the expertly delivered blows and make his timely escape into the wildnerness.)

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and I have as much right to be there as you have to be in Texas


If you make good your escape to the wilderness and don`t succumb to the many paths of boredom on your journey, then I offer no hindrance Grasshopper.
I am much appreciative of my status freely granted to me in Texas. Much more so after you revealed your tortuous position. I did not have to escape any place of boring detention for survival and journey to Texas to drink of its many wonders. It`s Fricken Huge glory. I was born into and dubbed Texan from the start.

(Trainee note: Ignore the Nana nana statement and simply expalin your regal status and heritage to this lost soul at this point. )

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the only reason I brought that up is because certain people from a certain state seem unable to grasp the fact that we in Europe as well as you in texas are familiar with those long journeys which are being discussed in here.  


Grasshopper, the journey that you are traveling is one made to many lost lands. You speak of mystical paths to many destinations consisting of nothingness. You are measuring journeys to many different destinations of nothingness in terms of length. The shorter path to nowhere is much more desirable if that is your fate. So is the path of the truly lost and unenlightened.
The road to understanding , enlightenment and a whole lot of good ole Texas
fun can be measured with each mile one of wonderment and fullfillment. Some damn good bars here too. The destination at the end of the light is Texas. That is where all resides. We, of the tribe of regal Texans "have it all".
Fricken Huge place, this enlightment stuff.

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The difference is that in general, we don't need to crow about it, and in any case the BBS rules prevent many from doing so in their mother tongue.


Wise choice you discovered after much enlightenment Grasshopper. A discovery you made too late. You have allready crowed till you have became hoarse for lack of an interested audience. You discovered that the rooster on the highest perch will neither awaken or impress those of an empty village.
Crowing, no matter how loudly, to noone about nothing lead you to nowhere.
If a message can`t be spoken in the tongue of one`s mother then you have strayed from your path and entered a foreign land. Well, you could have had one shot too many at happy hour down at Joe`s also.
The toungue spoken in Texas by Texans is recognized and understood by all but the most remote and unexplored regions of the earth. "Dang it Mary. Bring me a Bud" s pretty well understood at most backstreet bars and questionable establishments around the world.
In Texas the crowing is overpowered and drowned out by the mighty roar of the regal Texan proclaiming the greatness of this Fricken Huge state. So is the way to balance of all things wordly. The greatness of Texas must be heard across the land to beckon those in the wilderness, especialy the good looking chicks from other places.

(Trainee note: The very first and most simple tactic listed in the warrior`s training manual. Page one..and I quote.."Rule number one: Baffle them with your BS when all else fails or as a standard manuever.)


 
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In my flying days, I could take off from home base and touch down in France an hour later.  


I understand. A craft with small fuel capacity that wouldn`t allow you to get to a desireable location.
Here in Texas , in my flying days, I could launch from the highest bar stool, arrive at destination, be retreived by local ground crew and start refueling in less than forty five seconds.

(Trainee note: Stress superiority.)

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In the early days there was a bit of form filling (temporary export of an aircraft


In my early days of flying we had something similar. It usaly wasn`t filed till the morning after the flight. Here it was designated Bail Bond form.

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flight plan (mandatory for crossing an international frontier,


We never filed a flight plan for this from Texas. It was usualy a spur of the moment, unplanned flight. We would cross, enter, and return from our visit with the friendly ladies in Acuna without ever showing on dar. It would not have been necessary any way. By the time we reached the border we were , without fail, invisible and sometimes bullet proof.

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Unless of course I were to be carrying an American passenger


All were welcomed and provided passage on the Mothership.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on February 28, 2006, 12:13:01 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Seeing the destinations that you have chosen , I will tell you that if for some reason your plans of escape are foiled, I`m pretty sure I can get you a good deal on real estate in Siberia.
LOL! Another meaningless wall, Jackall. There's no point in continuing your "character assassination" of Britain/Europe - you've NEVER been here, and therefore your opinions are worthless. By the way, am I supposed to be in awe of a land mass of a mere 268,000 sq miles? What proportion of the earth's surface is that - about 0.2%? No, it's not even that. Oh wow, wonder if I can find it on my illuminated globe. :lol
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I will tell you that if for some reason your plans of escape are foiled, I`m pretty sure I can get you a good deal on real estate in Siberia.
LOL - what a dolt. :lol I said Iberia, not Siberia!!! It was not a typo. (http://www.zen33071.zen.co.uk/jester.gif)

Like I said, no point in continuing with a guy who doesn't have a clue about world geography.

The difference between Iberia and Siberia? maybe the *thermostat* setting! :rofl
Title: Re: Re: Texas Laws
Post by: Timofei on February 28, 2006, 12:18:46 PM
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Originally posted by RedTop
So your saying you won't be visiting our fine state. Darn...I'm all broke up about that.


I have already. The laws i posted were taken from http://www.dumblaws.com/

These laws raise some interesting legal questions though:

1. If you take 3 beers while standing and then sit down, can you then stand up and take 3 more ? Or take 2 and sit down , stand up and take 3 ? Or do you have to go out, come back and the counter is reset ?

2. If you have 6 dildos and lose one, do you have legal right to buy one more  ?

3. What will exactly happen if I somebody sells me Limburger cheese in Houston on Sunday ? Other cheeses are legal ?

4. How can you take a pee in Alamo ?

5. Do the horses tail lights in Texarkana  have to be from Cadillac or will Toyota tail lights be OK ? And where do  you put the brake pedal ?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: indy007 on February 28, 2006, 12:32:34 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Travelling from home to central Spain, I would encounter four different languages - English, French, Spanish and Catalan. Total round trip mileage ~2400.


Travelling from home to Hobby airport last weekend, with 2 stops at gas stations, and a quick detour for breakfast, I encountered English, Spanish, Vietnamese, Chinese, Arabic, Indian (couldn't tell you if it was Hindi, Punjabi, Bengali or what), and Ebonics. That was on the way to the airport. At the airport, I encountered more Ebonics, English, Spanish, Indian, and on the aircraft, I sat next to a Houston native that can fluently speak Klingon.

Total 1 way trip - 35 miles.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on February 28, 2006, 01:30:00 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
LOL! Another meaningless wall, Jackall.
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Yes Grasshopper. I am a more than honorable text warrior. I give you nothing but the best and honor you enough to use your style. Those of us trained in the honorable art ot Ninja text warrior in the Fricken Huge state of Texas understand that sometimes the untrained and unaware of the art, such as yourself have trouble relating to things unless offered in their style and lingo.
Even at this , the lost warriors seeking escape from boredom fail to recognize that one cannot always reply and make a statement using the exact words of the lost, such as yourself. Sometimes words have similar sounds, but are, in fact , totaly different. (Patience Grasshopper. I will enlighten you and give you an example shortly.)



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LOL - what a dolt


 I agree totaly, but I don`t hold that against you. I will however show you the path to enlightment below.

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I said Iberia, not Siberia!!!


Well done Grasshopper. You make me proud. You are correct. You did say Iberia. I was the one who said Siberia when offering to locate you a good deal on real estate there. Now that you understand what you said, I will show honor and explain to you that I read your listed, possible escape routes and destinations. I will offer again . This time, after you have fully recognized and understood what you said. If for some reason  you are foiled in your journey to escape boredom and are unable to achieve any of your destinations, I will get you a good deal on real estate in Siberia. Honorable are those warriors from the Fricken Huge state of Texas. ( Now you are enlightened on how words can sound similar, but be totaly different as I promised above. From this point forward on your journey to achieve enlightenment you should be able to take these teachings and easily note what you said without expalnation from Master Ninja text warriors from the Fricken Huge state of Texas)

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It was not a typo


Correct again Grasshopper. You are making good progress. In due time you may attempt to take the frijole from my hand or at the very least master the art of pulling my finger. This will not require recognition of your own statements.

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Like I said, no point in continuing with a guy who doesn't have a clue about world geography.


Don`t give up so easily Grasshopper. An easily defeated opponent dishonors the fine art. I will honor you by enlightening you on the great vastness of Texas and it`s geography. I will not abandon you just because you struggle discerning the difference between Iberia and Siberia. You need to take small steps Grasshopper. We will start your training slow with the vastness of Texas, but I will allow you to study only one small section of this vast land. I realize that the simple Fricken Huge size of the great state of Texas is beyond your comprehension.

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the difference between Iberia and Siberia?  


This has been explaiined to you in your previous enlightenment Grasshopper.  Try this ,Oh yet to be enlightened one. Concentrate on learning the differences in the words alone to the point where you can tell the difference between  what you said and what I said at a glance. At that time I will advance you the stage of actualy recognizing that the two are different in more ways than spelling. For one who is so distraught and concerned with master escape plans it is understandable your lack of concentration. Not all text warriors can be expected to deal with vastness. It is a gift of those who reside in the Fricken Huge state known as Texas.

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I enjoy my travels. I'm free to do it because I have the wherewithal and the time - and you don't.


One on a journey to total confusion will eventualy arrive with, exactly that, total confusion.
If I had anymore time I would have to rent it out to those who did not for the longed after exploration of the great state of Texas.
I have traveled more than the average. I totaly enjoy my travels. This is due to the fact that I travel to places that interest me and that are enjoyable. I do not frivilously travel to destinations that I have no desire to go to just to say "I`ve been there". There is much to be seen and experienced of interest to waste the interesting on the uninteresting.
I will give you an example that you can relate to. Just remember it was me who said this, not you, and even you will understand. I was offered and given an all expense, extended trip to.........(guess where?)....England at one time. I flatly turned it down due to the fact that England holds absolutely no iinterest to me. If at some time , someone can point out something there that would interest me to the point of considering a trip there, I would do just that, consider it. This has been explained to you on many occasions Grasshopper, but you still do not comprehend this. On an interest level I would rate it on the same level as sitting in front of the TV without turning on the power.


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And... you're doing it again - comparing England with Texas.


You are struggling with the recognition of who is saying and doing what.
Let me put this in simple terms. If you have to, save it and study it from time to time until it comes clear of it`s meaning.
For me there is absolutely no way to campare England and Texas.
Texas = Very interesting and varied. An exciting and varied state with near virtual opportunities for travel, excitement and interest.
England= Of absolutely no interest to me. Positively  cannot be compared to great state of Texas. Small, drab and boring. No comaparison to Texas at any level.
Try to remember this.

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"We have everything we need right here"?


A close proximty to what I stated, but not in the form of a question as stated by me. We have it all would some it up. For further enjoyment I might add that Texas is a Fricken Huge state.

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You're not talking about oil are you?


Well at least you are trying to retain the difference between what I said and what you said. Great progress Grasshopper. Now that you have reached that point you can quickly discern what I am ,and am not talking about.



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I shall think of that next week during my visit to the Middle East


That will ease the questions that should be going through your mind, such as  why anyone would wish to travel to the ME at this time if they did not have to.

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I've already made abundantly clear that my "back yard" extends far beyond England.


You actualy are not going to be able to define the boundaries of a yard until you make your escape, establish residence and deal with the fact that you don`t know the difference between the front yard, back yard or outhouse.

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But it's funny that you should post such a "know-it-all" wall of text about England/Europe when you've never even been here


It probably would be "funny" if I had done such, but I have not. Once again you are struggling with what you said and what I said. It is your wall of texts who have dealt with the knowlege, or lack thereof, concerning England.
My lengthy teachings to enlighten you have dealt with Texas and it`s vastness and diversity for the most part.
Refresher: I have absolutely no interest in England. It`s not a hard concept to grasp, even for one so confused.
My knowledge of England: Boring to the point of , once again, absolutely no interest. Drab, dull, boring. Three things does not a wall of text make.
I will add to the knowledge base just to refresh you. There is absolutely no possible way to compare Engalnd to Texas. Texas is interesting, exciting and......Fricken Huge.
I will repeat. I have not now , nor in the past, held any interest whatsoever in going to England. Simple enough?
If , for example, I had ever had the misfortune to vist England I can assure you I would not profess to be an instant expert on the vastness of it`s boredom. The fact is I do not have to make that trip to know it holds no interest to me .
You, on the other hand are proclaiming your knowledge of Texas to be very extensive based on your "tour" excursion. You have even went so far as to proclaim knowledge of the varied diversities and culture, languages spoken here , etc.   What you witnessed of Texas is on the scale of a one liner headline about Texas in a foreign paper. In other words, nothing. Texas , in no way can be defined or understood by you. You just can`t grasp the grandness Grasshopper.





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I personally believe that Europe is much more culturally diverse than... texas, which is 268,000 sq. miles of people speaking the same language, and there is much uniformity to other aspects of life there.


A perfect example of how screwed up your comprehension of Texas is as described above.

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No need to labour this point, as Jackall has already made it for me - , especially if you never leave your own "back yard", or... you live in texas


You can`t "labour" over this point,because you have no workable knowledge of it. You are the only one who does not realize this.
I beleive it is you that is having the personal conflict with yourself trying to define "your back yard".
I am the one that lives in the Fricken Huge state of Texas.

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...all of which makes me scratch my head in the search for any sort of point that jackall might have. Thus far, his ramblings have been devoid of one.


The answers are there for you Grasshopper. Your struggle for understanding is being blocked due to the false notion that you have a working knowledge of the subject matter. That being Texas.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Wolf14 on February 28, 2006, 06:28:45 PM
Jackel, you are having to  much fun my friend.

Note to the World:
Dont tick Texans off. We tend to get a little mean at times. There was a reason Patton said that he could win a battle with west point grads and he could win the war with Aggies.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on February 28, 2006, 11:25:40 PM
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Originally posted by Airscrew
I think you are slightly off the mark with this comment.  Texas is very culturely diverse,  Texas was settled by Germans, Cechs, Polish, Irish, English, Spanish, Mexicans and others that I'm forgetting,  and they have greatly influenced how Texas has grown.   Also those languages are still spoken today, many communities in Texas still celebrate their customs from the 'Old World'  
I personally belong to a German club in Austin Saengerrunde.  http://www.main.org/asr/left.html
I don't sing (i barely remember any of the german I learned when I was in Germany) but I joined the club and bowl in the small bowling alley behind Schultz's Garden.



Dont forget the original owners of TX the American Indian.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Sandman on February 28, 2006, 11:26:49 PM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
Dont forget the original owners of TX the American Indian.


That's "Native American" you insensitive clod. ;)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Texas Laws
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 28, 2006, 11:27:55 PM
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Originally posted by Timofei
I have already. The laws i posted were taken from http://www.dumblaws.com/

These laws raise some interesting legal questions though:

1. If you take 3 beers while standing and then sit down, can you then stand up and take 3 more ? Or take 2 and sit down , stand up and take 3 ? Or do you have to go out, come back and the counter is reset ?

2. If you have 6 dildos and lose one, do you have legal right to buy one more  ?

3. What will exactly happen if I somebody sells me Limburger cheese in Houston on Sunday ? Other cheeses are legal ?

4. How can you take a pee in Alamo ?

5. Do the horses tail lights in Texarkana  have to be from Cadillac or will Toyota tail lights be OK ? And where do  you put the brake pedal ?



It's ok, they don't raid for dildo's so your collection is safe.

You may want to hide your favorite one just in case though. :D
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on February 28, 2006, 11:35:54 PM
LMAO Oklahoma has some wacky laws as well:rofl

One may not promote a "horse tripping event".
details
Full text of the Law
�21-1700.

A. It is unlawful for any person to:

1. Promote, engage in, or be employed at a bear wrestling exhibition or horse tripping event;

2. Receive money for the admission of another person to any place where bear wrestling or horse tripping will occur;

3. Sell, purchase, possess, or offer a horse for any horse tripping event;

4. Sell, purchase, possess, or train a bear for any bear wrestling exhibition;

5. Subject a bear to alteration in any form for purposes of bear wrestling including, but not limited to, removal of claws or teeth, or severing tendons; or

6. Give any substance to a bear, inject any substance into a bear, or cause a bear to ingest or inhale any substance for the purposes of bear wrestling.

B. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall, upon conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding one (1) year, or by a fine of not more than Two Thousand Dollars ($2,000.00), or by both such fine and imprisonment. In addition, the court may require the violator to make restitution and reimbursements to the state, any of its political subdivisions, or to any society which is incorporated for the prevention of cruelty to animals for housing, feeding, or providing medical treatment to any animals used or intended for use in violation of this section.

C. Upon the arrest of any person pursuant to any provision of this section, the arresting law enforcement agency or animal control office shall have authority to seize and take custody of all animals in the possession of the arrested person which are the basis of an arrest pursuant to the provisions of this section. Upon conviction, the court shall have authority to order the forfeiture of all animals seized which are the basis of the conviction pursuant to the provisions of this section. Any animals ordered forfeited may be placed in the custody of a society which is incorporated for the prevention of cruelty to animals.

D. As used in this section, "horse tripping" means to cause an animal of the equine species to fall or lose its balance with the use of a wire, pole, stick, rope or other object. The term does not include the lawful laying down of a horse for medical purposes or for the purposes of identification.




No owner, operator, partner, manager, or person having supervisory control of any establishment licensed to sell or serve intoxicating beverages shall permit any of the following on or about any commercial premises where intoxicating beverages are dispensed or consumed:

1. The performance by any person of acts, or simulated acts, of sexual intercourse, masturbation, sodomy, bestiality, oral copulation, flagellation, or any sexual acts which are otherwise prohibited by law;

2. The actual intentional touching or caressing or fondling by any person of the breasts, anus or genitals;

3. Any person on the licensed premises while such person is unclothed or in such attire, costume or clothing as to expose to view any portion of the areola of the female breast or any portion of the pubic hair, buttocks or genitals; or

4. Any person to perform acts of, or acts which simulate, sexual acts which are prohibited by law, or permit any person to use artificial devices or inanimate objects to depict any prohibited activities or permit the showing of films, still pictures, electronic reproductions or other visual reproductions depicting any of the prohibited activities described in this paragraph.

It is illegal for the owner of a bar to allow anyone inside to pretend to have sex with a buffalo.

Females are forbidden from doing their own hair without being licensed by the state.
Dogs must have a permit signed by the mayor in order to congregate in groups of three or more on private property.
Oklahoma will not tolerate anyone taking a bite out of another's hamburger.
It is against the law to read a comic book while operating a motor vehicle.


Residents are taxed for the furniture in their homes, and any other personal belongings.
People who make "ugly faces" at dogs may be fined and/or jailed.
Cars must be tethered outside of public buildings.
Oral sex is a misdemeanor and is punisable by one year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
Anyone arrested for soliciting a hooker must have their name and picture shown on television.
It's statutory rape for a man over 18 to have sex with a female under the age of 18, provided she's a virgin.
Tattoos are banned.
No one may spit on a sidewalk.
It is illegal to wear your boots to bed.
It is illegal to have sex before you are married.
Fish may not be contained in fishbowls while on a public bus.
Tissues are not to be found in the back of one's car.It is illegal to have the hind legs of farm animals in your boots.


LOL I guess theres a lot of this going on in Okla.
Whaling is illegal.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on February 28, 2006, 11:41:17 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
That's "Native American" you insensitive clod. ;)


OOOPS:confused:
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: rpm on February 28, 2006, 11:41:47 PM
Quote
Originally posted by fartwinkle
It is illegal to wear your boots to bed.
It is illegal to have sex before you are married.

Now that's just wrong.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on March 01, 2006, 10:25:23 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Wolf14
Jackel, you are having to  much fun my friend.

Note to the World:
Dont tick Texans off. We tend to get a little mean at times.  


Hehe, Yea, you could safely say I had a little kick outa that.
Anyone with just a little trouble can can show a wannabe Ninja text warrior that they can have the same BS that they think they are so good at and have it shoveled back to them 3 or 4 fold.
Like the old saying here in Texas is "Sometimes the BS gets so deep you have to put on your boots". :)
Yesterday I just wasn`t in the mood to put on my boots, but I had a brand new grain scoop very handy. :)
Just throw in one part fact, then add 4 truck loads of BS. Text warrior style.
Our little friend from the land of the drab has a long history baiting lines that he cannot run.
Super troll or Master Ninja text warior he is not. :)
Pompus Yuppies has always ben my bag. This one is too easy. When backed into a corner to the point it is obvious that he is lost he immediately puffs up like a little spoiled brat and sticks out his tongue. Heck, I`m all up for a little friendly BS session especialy when it is obvious that the one on the other end does not have a clue about the subject at hand. Those that are so wrapped up in theimselves usualy are that way IMHO. You could take them on a pie factory tour and they would never see the crust. :)
When I think of my little friend from across the pond a few old Texas sayings come to mind..
One of them is "Step down off your high horse".
In this case the one which fits perfectly is "Shoot low sherrif. He`s ridin a shetland."
 :rofl
Yep, Texans, as a rule, have a lot of pride in their home state. We should, it is an awesome state. I can`t remember. Have I mentioned that it is a Fricken Huge state?  :)  I love Texas, the topic of this thread, surely fiits in my case.
If someone, such as my friend Beet, from across the pond was really interested in seeing and experiencing this great state, then I`m sure that they are a few of us here that would be willing to help him out and show him around, point him in the right direction, etc. For the most part, Texans are like that.....very hospitable. The only thing is, the high horse would need to be left in the stall. One would quickly find out that if you start that crap here, you will hit the ground hard. The term is "Bucked off." Greenhorns feed the stock here, not ride.
 In Texas....."If you can`t ride, don`t saddle up."  :D
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: slimm50 on March 01, 2006, 01:06:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by RAIDER14
Whataburger is good also

Whataburger....Mmmmmmmmm..... .
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on March 01, 2006, 02:49:44 PM
Boss can we get sum more beans?
Mongo from blazing saddles.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: culero on March 01, 2006, 07:50:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by fartwinkle
Dont forget the original owners of TX the American Indian.


Fallacy.

culero
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: fartwinkle on March 02, 2006, 12:02:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by culero
Fallacy.

culero


Well tell us where the first people came from then?
I always herd that the people of mongolia migrated over the land mass that used to connect russia and alaska then they kinds wonderd down.
It makes sense to me cause if you look really close at an eskimo and an American indian they look alot alike.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on March 02, 2006, 04:55:37 AM
ROFL Jackal! Why all these walls of text? Why so defensive? I haven't said anything bad about Texas, so please do try to keep your pants on.

What makes me laugh is not the suggestion that TX is the cultural capital of the world (well ok, it makes me laugh a little bit ;) ), but your idiotic sense of proportion, and your self proclaimed status as a critic on countries around the world, none of which you have ever visited! Now that is freaking hilarious. :rofl

I see you've now extended your use of the drab/dreary tag to include France and Spain - but you've never been there! :lol

As for your sense of proportion, I think it's slightly unhealthy to think of a geographical entity whose land area is a mere 0.136% of the world as the world itself. As for your map of texas that weighs 35lb, well that I can understand. I realise it has to be in nice big letters for you to be able to read it. :lol My Times atlas of the world (which includes the 99.864% of this planet that isn't Texas) weighs a mere 3lb. By extrapolation, a jackall style world atlas would weigh 11½ tons! :rolleyes::lol

Ah yes, I see you've added light aircraft to your list of topics you talk about but know nothing about. On full tanks, my TB10 had an endurance of 5½ hours, and a cruising speed of ~115 knots.

Looking forward to your next walls, and PMSL thinking of how much time it takes out of your day!

:aok
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: lazs2 on March 02, 2006, 08:25:21 AM
don't know if the original owners of Texas were indians or not but they didn't have any paperwork.

lazs
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Airscrew on March 02, 2006, 10:34:19 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
don't know if the original owners of Texas were indians or not but they didn't have any paperwork.

lazs

more importantly, they didnt have a flag, or guns either.  just some pointy sticks and beads, maybe some gold
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on March 02, 2006, 10:39:24 AM
I got this as an email joke

Quote

Texas Hospitality


Dallas Air Traffic Control: "Tower to Saudi Air 091101--You are cleared to land eastbound on runway 180R."

Saudi Air: "Thank you Dallas ATC. Acknowledge cleared to land on runway 180R. Allah be Praised!"

Dallas ATC: "Tower to Egypt Air 091102--You are cleared to land westbound on runway 180R."

Egypt Air: "Thank you Dallas ATC. We are cleared to land on runway 180R. Allah is Great."

Pause: Static..............

Saudi Air: "DALLAS ATC! DALLAS ATC!!!"

Dallas ATC: "Go ahead Saudi Air 091101?"

Saudi Air: "YOU HAVE CLEARED BOTH OUR AIRCRAFT FOR THE SAME RUNWAY!!! WE ARE ON A COLLISION COURSE!!! INSTRUCTIONS PLEASE!!!

Dallas ATC: Well bless your hearts. Y'all be careful now---ya hear?"
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Leslie on March 02, 2006, 10:47:37 AM
Two questions about England.  Does England have cold water fountains in every building and salad available anywhere?  I would not live in a place that didn't have those.  Might be a nice place to visit, but couldn't live there without that.




Les
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on March 02, 2006, 11:11:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Leslie
Two questions about England.  Does England have cold water fountains in every building and salad available anywhere?  I would not live in a place that didn't have those.  Might be a nice place to visit, but couldn't live there without that.
Les

Well my house doesn't have a cold water fountain, but I nearly always have some salad in the fridge!

Still no reply from jackall. Bet it's going to be a doozie of a wall when it's finished! :eek:
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on March 02, 2006, 11:31:04 AM
Quote
Originally posted by beet1e
Les

Well my house doesn't have a cold water fountain, but I nearly always have some salad in the fridge!

Still no reply from jackall. Bet it's going to be a doozie of a wall when it's finished! :eek:


Yes but is it a "tossed" salad?  That's the question.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on March 02, 2006, 11:38:49 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
Yes but is it a "tossed" salad?  That's the question.


One would get the impression that he gets his salad "tossed" regularly. :D
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Gunslinger on March 02, 2006, 11:41:52 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Jackal1
One would get the impression that he gets his salad "tossed" regularly. :D
:rofl
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: texace on March 02, 2006, 11:48:44 AM
Reading Jackal's posts, I get a sense to pride and warm fuzzies because of how he words everything. When I read Beetle's posts, I get this...cold, clammy feeling in the pit of my stomach because of how he words things. It's like reading a French menu. :huh

Jackal goes to great lengths to elegantly defend the state of Texas. Beelte goes to...semi-great lengths to belittle Jackal because of that fact. Jackal tells it like it is, using grace and style not common to Texans. Beelte...sticks his fingers in his ears and sings God Save the Queen while dnacing about on one foot.

I'm going with Jackal on this one, mainly because I've been to both places and...well, you know. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Curval on March 02, 2006, 12:10:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by texace
Reading Jackal's posts, I get a sense to pride and warm fuzzies because of how he words everything. When I read Beetle's posts, I get this...cold, clammy feeling in the pit of my stomach because of how he words things. It's like reading a French menu. :huh

Jackal goes to great lengths to elegantly defend the state of Texas. Beelte goes to...semi-great lengths to belittle Jackal because of that fact. Jackal tells it like it is, using grace and style not common to Texans. Beelte...sticks his fingers in his ears and sings God Save the Queen while dnacing about on one foot.

I'm going with Jackal on this one, mainly because I've been to both places and...well, you know. :)


You "like" the way he writes that Grasshopper & Ninja stuff even though he has no personal knowledge of a country he likes to take shots at?  You like the fact that he claims victory and yet makes whopping clangers in his knowledge of geography?

lol

Elegantly defends the state of Texas...LOL!!!  Goodness, what does it take to embarras the state then?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on March 02, 2006, 12:50:36 PM
ROFL - jackall! Was that it? Guess you're having the night off.
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Yesterday I just wasn`t in the mood to put on my boots, but I had a brand new grain scoop very handy.
I can wait. :D

<---reads texace's post, grinds teeth upon spotting the split infinitive, checks his location - LOL  - no bias at all then! (http://www.zen33071.zen.co.uk/jester.gif) BTW texace, what bad things have I said about Texas in this thread? I'm not aware of any. :confused:
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: texace on March 02, 2006, 01:36:15 PM
Ah, I never said you badmouthed the state, mate. ;) I try to maintain an unbiased opinion of both places. I'll give England something, though...it's not nearly as hot in the summer there as it is here. :(

Curv, I also like cheese, pants, and milk cartons, among other things. There are a lot of things that I like even if you don't neccesarily agree. :D And you can't embarass the state...it's just land with invisible borders. :p
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Leslie on March 02, 2006, 01:36:34 PM
I don't have a cold water fountain in my house, but I would if I could.  Other than that the salad question is valid because I like salad, and was saying I couldn't live in a place that didn't have it readily available.

That's all.:D



Les
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on March 02, 2006, 01:39:18 PM
Quote
Originally posted by texace
Reading Jackal's posts, I get a sense to pride and warm fuzzies because of how he words everything. When I read Beetle's posts, I get this...cold, clammy feeling in the pit of my stomach because of how he words things. It's like reading a French menu. :huh

Jackal goes to great lengths to elegantly defend the state of Texas. Beelte goes to...semi-great lengths to belittle Jackal because of that fact. Jackal tells it like it is, using grace and style not common to Texans. Beelte...sticks his fingers in his ears and sings God Save the Queen while dnacing about on one foot.

I'm going with Jackal on this one, mainly because I've been to both places and...well, you know. :)


:D Thank ya Suh.
Tex you got to sorta overlook and pity these poor fellers who can`t understand the fine and intricate works of "puttin on the dog" or how really simple it is to get Ole Blue trained up to open up and accept the bit without being prompted. In this case a hackamore. :)  Bet they can`t whittle a battleship out of a toothpick either. These fine talents are well known to the Texican.
Some get it, some don`t. Some never will. I do believe that I have witnessed something new to me. I have never seen a catfish still swimming around looking for a meal after he had been filleted. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on March 02, 2006, 03:05:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Jackal1
:D Thank ya Suh.
Tex you got to sorta overlook and pity these poor fellers who can`t understand the fine and intricate works of "puttin on the dog" or how really simple it is to get Ole Blue trained up to open up and accept the bit without being prompted. In this case a hackamore. :)  Bet they can`t whittle a battleship out of a toothpick either. These fine talents are well known to the Texican.
Some get it, some don`t. Some never will. I do believe that I have witnessed something new to me. I have never seen a catfish still swimming around looking for a meal after he had been filleted. :)
See Rule #16- All posts, in public forums, should be made in the English language. :aok
Title: huh??
Post by: daMIG on March 02, 2006, 04:10:54 PM
:huh

Split infinative, is that like a split s?


? :confused:
Title: A word by anyother name, can fill a post
Post by: daMIG on March 02, 2006, 04:21:02 PM
Hey TexAce:

"I'm going with Jackal on this one, mainly because I've been to both places and...well, you know."

 Agreed. ;)

Jackal: wall posts be as they may, heck-fire, I dont KNOW that many words bro. I Salute you. Your freestyle prose is, well, for lack of a better wor... KEWL.


:D
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Curval on March 02, 2006, 04:45:54 PM
lol Jackal has a fan club.  

Kewl?  It is absolute nonesense.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on March 03, 2006, 05:22:08 AM
While I’m waiting for Jackall’s next wall of text, I thought I would add some geographical statistics to demonstrate just how small Texas is on a global scale, but before I do that, I would like to reiterate what I said earlier, which is that to the best of my knowledge, I have not posted any defamatory remarks concerning Texas in this or any other thread.

Some people seem to think that “greatness” equates to “size”, but size is relative and provides no indication as to what may be found within. It is true that Texas is the largest of the 48 contiguous states, and by a margin of more than 100,000 square miles, but on a global scale, it almost pales into insignificance. I have made my own calculations to ascertain the proportions of magnitude of Texas as compared with other geographical entities. I’ll begin with the surface area of the world. To calculate this, I used the formula 4 pi R squared, where R is the radius of the earth and pi is a special mathematical constant defining the ratio between the circumference of a circle and its diameter, and not a dessert to be enjoyed after a 72oz steak! I used the Windows calculator definition of pi. Using data derived from Wikipedia, I determined that the earth has a radius of 3963.205 miles. The result yielded by this calculation giving the earth’s surface area was 197,379,906 – to the nearest square mile. Turning to the Times atlas of the world, the land area of the state of Texas is given as 268,601 square miles. Dividing one by the other, we see that the rest of the world is about 734 times the size of Texas. By the same process, it can be seen that Texas occupies a land area equivalent to 0.136% of the earth, in other words a little over one tenth of one percent.

Thus it can be seen that Texas is “huge” compared to the other 48 contiguous states, but a tiny speck on the earth’s surface. It follows that the earth is 734 times as huge, but when compared with planet Jupiter, it is tiny. According to Wikipedia, 1321 earths would fit inside Jupiter! Keyword: Proportion. :aok
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Originally posted by Curval
lol Jackal has a fan club.  

Kewl?  It is absolute nonesense.

Yes of course it’s nonsense, but what I have found, quite consistently as it turns out, is that whenever someone blows his trumpet about the size of a piece of real estate to which he feels some degree of emotional attachment, you will find that the enthusiasm of such trumpet blowing is inversely proportional to his knowledge of geography external to the piece of real estate being trumpeted as “huge”. In my view, jackall provides a classic example, vindicating my theory perfectly. Curval, you live on a small island and are therefore accustomed to being on the "outside looking in" so to speak, so I know you'll have no difficulty relating to my theory. ;)

As I have been at pains to point out throughout this thread, Texas may be large in a relative sense, but appears small when viewed on a global scale…

…Or, to use jackall’s parlance: Like I said, it ain’t that grand. :D
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Holden McGroin on March 03, 2006, 05:45:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by beet1e
but what I have found, quite consistently as it turns out, is that whenever someone blows his trumpet about the size of a piece of real estate to which he feels some degree of emotional attachment, you will find that the enthusiasm of such trumpet blowing is inversely proportional to his knowledge of geography external to the piece of real estate being trumpeted as “huge”.  


"The sun never sets on the ..." how does that saying go?
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on March 03, 2006, 08:12:41 AM
Absolutely priceless! :D
One could quote the proportional size of our little planet to that of the universe.
Would it pertain in any way whatsoever to the subject matter? Absolutely not. It might give the impression that someone had  overdosed on Carl Sagan books though. :)
One could give the mathmatical formula for vanilla pudding. It still wouldn`t pertain to Texas and it`s greatness.
Yes, Texas is , without a doubt, a totaly awesome state with unlimited wonders.
It can only be understood by those fortunate enough to explore the vast regions of this Fricken Huge state.
We, here in Texas has never saw the need for a Queen, but Bob Wills is still the king. :)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Curval on March 03, 2006, 08:16:22 AM
As already pointed out Ontario, Canada must be twice as great as Texas because it is twice the size.  It is a Fricken HUGE province.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on March 03, 2006, 08:31:05 AM
Yes, Texas is so  large for ONE state that it is as large as some countries and larger than some. It`s Fricken huge allright. And to think , it is only ONE state in the U.S. ...................awesome.
An example of the abundance of Texas........................ ...................

"Hunting Ducks On The Brazos

If there’s anything I like to do, it’s hunt. One day last week, I take my gun and go out to
practice. I hit the bull’s eye the first time, but it cost me twenty dollars to pay
for the bull.

The best luck I ever had was when I went over to the Brazos one day last month. I’d
been walking all day without seeing a thing to shoot at. I sits down on the bank of the
river to rest.. Pretty soon, I hear a noise up river, and I see about 500 ducks. I **** my
gun and take aim. Just as I’m going to pull the trigger, I hear a noise down river. I
turn to look and 5,000 geese are settling in. So I thinks to myself I’d rather have geese
than ducks, so I aim at the geese.

I’m about to squeeze off a shot when I hear a noise in front of me. I look down and not
three feet away I see a great big rattlesnake. Must be six feet long if it’s an inch, and
he’s coiled to strike, his mouth wide open. Well sir, I **** both barrels, take aim at the
snake, squeeze the trigger, and let go with both barrels. The dang gun bursts apart. The
right hand barrel flies up river and kills the 500 ducks. The left hand barrel shoots down
river and kills the 5,000 geese. The ramrod shoots down the snake’s throat and chokes
him to death. The gunstock flies back and knocks me off my feet into the river, and I
come out with my boots full of fish."



 ;)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Curval on March 03, 2006, 08:48:49 AM
Yes, Ontario is so large for ONE Province that it is as large as some countries and larger than many. It`s Fricken huge allright. And to think , it is only ONE Province in Canada. ...................awesome.
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: beet1e on March 03, 2006, 08:54:21 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Absolutely priceless! :D
One could quote the proportional size of our little planet to that of the universe.
Indeed we could - I agree entirely! But my point was/is, that whereas you choose to limit your travelling aspirations to 0.136% of the planet surface, I prefer to explore the wider world. Why? Because I can.
:cool:

No more walls of text today. I had to have a jab in each arm yesterday to prepare myself for next week's epic journey to the Arab world. Right now I feel as if my arms are going to fall off. And to any Brits reading this, no snide jokes about Gladys, please. ;)
Title: I Love Texas
Post by: Jackal1 on March 03, 2006, 09:01:10 AM
Everything is big in Texas

There once was a blind man who decided to visit Texas. When he arrived on the plane, he felt the seats and said, "Wow, these seats are big!" The person next to him answered, "Everything is big in Texas." When he finally arrived in Texas, he decided to visit a bar. Upon arriving in the bar, he ordered a beer and got a mug placed between his hands. He exclaimed, "Wow these mugs are big!" The bartender replied, "Everything is big in Texas." After a couple of beers, the blind man asked the bartender where the bathroom was located. The bartender replied, "Second door to the right." The blind man headed for the bathroom, but accidentally tripped over and skipped the second door. Instead, he entered the third door, which lead to the swimming pool and fell into the pool by accident. Scared to death, the blind man started shouting, "Don't flush, don't flush!"