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Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: randomguy on February 22, 2006, 05:26:01 AM
Hows does this method work ?

How do you know if the airfield needs airfield cargo or Vehicle cargo.

Where are you supposed to drop the Cargo from a C47??

Someone said "Drop it on the concrete" i dropped it near a hanger, but it never said anything like "Supplies arrived" etc. How do i know if ther supplies arrived??
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: Schatzi on February 22, 2006, 06:00:28 AM
Ok, first of all, only Field Supplies are needed to supply any for of base. Player added supplies will reduce downtimes of strats (ammo, fuel, radar etc) by a certain time - IIRC 15 mins. Downtimes of hangars and town buildings can not be reduced with supplies.

Also, supplies need to be from a different base to work (usually troops/supplies are down anyway).

To drop the supplies over the BASE (not town) with a C47, either land the plane and drop when standing still (preferably on concrete, but i think anywhere ON the base is ok. Wait till you see that little "explosion" before towering out.
The other possibility is to drop them from the air (like troops - above 800 ft AGL and under 200 mph).

I usually just land. If i dont have the time to do that (enemies around etc) i come in low and fast, and pull straight up over the base, dropping as soon as im high/slow enough (that way its also easier to make sure the supplies actually drop on the base and dont drift too far).


There only one way (i know of) to check if the supplies were taken. Check your perks in hangar after the sortie (u usually get between 0.5 and 2.5 perks for a supply run).






Vehicle supplies are dropped for friendly vehicles, i think their range is about 800 yds (not sure, maybe someone can confirm?). The vehicle gets a "load supply" button in the upper left corner of the screen. clicking on that repairs the GV as well as reloads all ammo.
Try not to drop those close to enemy GVs as they can load the supplies as well.
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: outbreak on February 22, 2006, 06:04:45 AM
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Originally posted by Schatzi
Ok, first of all, only Field Supplies are needed to supply any for of base. Player added supplies will reduce downtimes of strats (ammo, fuel, radar etc) by a certain time - IIRC 15 mins. Downtimes of hangars and town buildings can not be reduced with supplies.

Also, supplies need to be from a different base to work (usually troops/supplies are down anyway).

To drop the supplies over the BASE (not town) with a C47, either land the plane and drop when standing still (preferably on concrete, but i think anywhere ON the base is ok. Wait till you see that little "explosion" before towering out.
The other possibility is to drop them from the air (like troops - above 800 ft AGL and under 200 mph).

I usually just land. If i dont have the time to do that (enemies around etc) i come in low and fast, and pull straight up over the base, dropping as soon as im high/slow enough (that way its also easier to make sure the supplies actually drop on the base and dont drift too far).


There only one way (i know of) to check if the supplies were taken. Check your perks in hangar after the sortie (u usually get between 0.5 and 2.5 perks for a supply run).






Vehicle supplies are dropped for friendly vehicles, i think their range is about 800 yds (not sure, maybe someone can confirm?). The vehicle gets a "load supply" button in the upper left corner of the screen. clicking on that repairs the GV as well as reloads all ammo.
Try not to drop those close to enemy GVs as they can load the supplies as well.


Sounds Correct, Cept ya left out Supplying by M3, If in a M3(Ground Vehicle) You MUST drop the supplies on Concrete at a Friendly Field at a Complete Stop.  If using GV Supplys(Vehicle Supplys) you can just park next to a friendly open ur doors and drop, But make sure to be at 0 MPH.
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: Airscrew on February 22, 2006, 08:33:29 AM
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Originally posted by outbreak
Sounds Correct, Cept ya left out Supplying by M3, If in a M3(Ground Vehicle) You MUST drop the supplies on Concrete at a Friendly Field at a Complete Stop.  If using GV Supplys(Vehicle Supplys) you can just park next to a friendly open ur doors and drop, But make sure to be at 0 MPH.


I'm not 100% correct about this because I do not recall running vehicle supplies in AH2 yet, but definitly in AH1 I could drop vehicle supplies while on the move, very slow, but on the move and spread them out
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: Flayed1 on February 22, 2006, 09:19:06 AM
No if you drop vehicle sups while moving they just dissapear like field sups.
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: USHilDvl on February 22, 2006, 10:01:53 AM
AFAIK, Shatzi's got it dead-nuts right.  Follow her advice, and you'll be fine.

Outbreak and Flayed also have it right, to my knowledge.  At least, that's how things work for me!

Luck!  
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: OOZ662 on February 22, 2006, 12:50:50 PM
Field supplies, by any method, don't need to be dropped on concrete.

The "field supply," "vehicle supply," and "troop" are all the exact same object in a plane as they are in a vehicle.

Also, I'm pretty sure you can resupply the town (at least, the guns you can), factories, and the HQ; not just a base. Anything resupply-able within about a 1k radius is resupplied.
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: Mugzeee on February 22, 2006, 12:58:39 PM
IIRC A long time ago Town Buildings were resupplyable. But this hasnt been the case for a long time now. I think it was before the Town Structures were overhauled.
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: Schatzi on February 22, 2006, 01:24:01 PM
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Originally posted by OOZ662
Field supplies, by any method, don't need to be dropped on concrete.

The "field supply," "vehicle supply," and "troop" are all the exact same object in a plane as they are in a vehicle.

Also, I'm pretty sure you can resupply the town (at least, the guns you can), factories, and the HQ; not just a base. Anything resupply-able within about a 1k radius is resupplied.



OOZ, are you talking about the City or about the field associated town?

City CAN be resupplied. Town buildings cant.
Good questions on the field/town ack. Not sure if those downtimes can be shortened.
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: BlauK on February 22, 2006, 02:00:59 PM
So what is it... must be on concrete or not? :)
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: OOZ662 on February 22, 2006, 02:02:07 PM
Very sure it doesn't have to be.
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: BlauK on February 22, 2006, 02:05:10 PM
So where does it have to be?

Within the base area?
Withing 1 mile from objects being supplied... like the help page claims?


This info would be extremely useful for map building purposes.
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: Skuzzy on February 22, 2006, 02:45:07 PM
Supplies need to be dropped within a 1 mile radius of the object being supplied.
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: dedalos on February 22, 2006, 02:49:41 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Supplies need to be dropped within a 1 mile radius of the object being supplied.


If two things need to be resupplied,  does the one closer to the suplies have an advantage over the one further out but still within the 1 mille?
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: Skuzzy on February 22, 2006, 02:59:05 PM
No.  All objects, which can receive supplies, within a 1 mile radius of the drop are supplied equally.
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: dedalos on February 22, 2006, 03:02:38 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
No.  All objects, which can receive supplies, within a 1 mile radius of the drop are supplied equally.


Thank you
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: LYNX on February 22, 2006, 06:56:52 PM
It amazes me the amount of myths that grow in AH.  Like when the Cv is sunk you can't spawn supplies.... loada bunkum:rolleyes:

Supplies can be put out or dropped anywhere on a field.  Concrete myth came about because folk dropped on grass in a M3 and towered getting a ditch.  The supplies worked by KNOCKING 15 min off re-gain time but the ditch made folk go to concrete to put out supplies...HENCE that MYTH.

Goon speed myth came about because of torp drop method lower than 200ft slower than 200 MPH.  C47's can drop at any speed but wings snap off over 325mph.  You do get drift with the chute. Drop a min of 800ft for chute to open and clearly over the beginning of the field.  Sups will drift in by about 30 ft.  Nothing stopping you dropping higher than 800ft. You can't re-supply towns.  Town building pop after 45 min NOTHING can change that.  As for town acks thats a good question and i'll have a go to see if it works.  Cv's can't be re-supplied it also has the standard "down" time.

Ground vehicle supplies CAN be put out on the move BUT only in 1st gear any faster and they don't work.

As for re-supplying factories I honestly havn't tried it in AH 2.  I can tell you this about AH1.... It didn't bleedin work.  Sure it gave you perkies but the factory didn't come up any faster in my AH1 experiment.  I am not prepared to spend 1 hr of my life seeing if it actually works or gives perkies in AH2.

oh btw inflight refuel is stall speed lower than 200ft then Alt and Tab.. costs between 10 to 15 perkies. 10 perkies in friendly territory 15 in enemy

:rofl
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: Airscrew on February 22, 2006, 07:44:03 PM
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Originally posted by LYNX
Ground vehicle supplies CAN be put out on the move BUT only in 1st gear any faster and they don't work.


told ya so :p  naner naner
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: Schatzi on February 23, 2006, 04:31:41 AM
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Originally posted by LYNX
oh btw inflight refuel is stall speed lower than 200ft then Alt and Tab.. costs between 10 to 15 perkies. 10 perkies in friendly territory 15 in enemy

:rofl



Great to know that. Thanks. ;)  :t




I can tell you where the "cant spawn supplies" from a sunk CV comes from.

Since the CV is sunk and Hangar doesnt "exist" anymore, you cant change loadouts of the LVT anymore. You have to switch to a land base, change loadout and the come back to CV and launch.


So youre saying you can drop troops/supplies from a C47 at faster speeds then 200 mph?
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: BlauK on February 23, 2006, 05:07:56 AM
Thanks for the answers and clarifications.

Would you know do the field supplies work even if they are dropped on water beside the base?
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: Schatzi on February 23, 2006, 05:33:00 AM
AFAIK, dropping on water doesnt work.

There was a bug that made it possible to drop sups on water close to a port, but i think that has been fixed.
Title: Re-Supplying bases
Post by: OOZ662 on February 23, 2006, 02:21:11 PM
I've had both my wings shot off at 10K and dropped field supplies onto a field about ten seconds before the plane exploded in the air from overspeed. Now there's an answer! :D