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Title: Bailing out
Post by: JAWS2003 on February 22, 2006, 12:03:10 PM: I think the bailing procedures need a fix in MA. It is too easy to survive bailing at five meters as it is now. Way to gamey. You can bail from a spiraling plane with no wings doing 500 mph at 10 ft and still survive if you click tower fast enough. This is annoying for me.
I know, the way it was in AH1 and how is in A vs A is annoying too sometimes. Like if you bail at high alt and open the chute. You'll have to wait so long until you are able to fly again.

Don't you think would be a good idea to force the bailing pilot execute some required steps of the bailing procedures? For example. Force the pilot to bail out, open the chute, then block the option to click tower for like five seconds, to allow the chute to slow the pilot down to a speed that is acceptable for landing. After the chute is slow, the pilot can exit flight, so he doesn't have to hang in the chute for ten minutes.:D

This would be a middle solution between the full bailing sequence (AH1 and AvsA) and the way to easy MA procedures.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Mister Fork on February 22, 2006, 12:13:48 PM: Perhaps force the pilot to open the cockpit hood first, then bail out... the faster you are, the slower it opens...?

Question Jaws - what added value would it have other than forcing HTC to code differently? Would it really change how we play our game?
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Mathman on February 22, 2006, 12:21:00 PM: The bigger question is who actually bails out of their plane? Not enough to make any change to the bail model as it is.

However, I would love any change that would increase the number of people bailing out. After I shoot some poor sap down, I like nothing better than to gun him in his chute.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: mars01 on February 22, 2006, 12:26:03 PM: Who the heck bails? LOLH
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Alky on February 22, 2006, 12:27:23 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Mathman
The bigger question is who actually bails out of their plane? Not enough to make any change to the bail model as it is.

I quite often bail but I still don't know what the advantage to bailing is, or riding it to the dirt??
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Guppy35 on February 22, 2006, 12:32:28 PM: Agreed. Who bails out? LOL what a waste of time :)
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Bronk on February 22, 2006, 12:33:13 PM: hehe bailing over the runway and popping spawning aircraft is fun.
I have gotten 1 or 2 kills in previous tours .:D

Bronk
Title: Bailing out
Post by: SlapShot on February 22, 2006, 12:38:48 PM: Bailing is for scorepotatos ... but like Mathman ... never met a chute that I did shoot.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: JAWS2003 on February 22, 2006, 12:39:01 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Mister Fork
Perhaps force the pilot to open the cockpit hood first, then bail out... the faster you are, the slower it opens...?

Question Jaws - what added value would it have other than forcing HTC to code differently? Would it really change how we play our game?

It would introduce some altitude limit on bailing. You won't be able to bail at five feet of the ground and survive.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: FX1 on February 22, 2006, 12:41:37 PM: I never shot a chute! Its bad ACM taking the time to shot a poor sob. I dont look back after a wing rips off "next kill please"
Title: Bailing out
Post by: JAWS2003 on February 22, 2006, 12:42:13 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Mathman
The bigger question is who actually bails out of their plane? Not enough to make any change to the bail model as it is.

However, I would love any change that would increase the number of people bailing out. After I shoot some poor sap down, I like nothing better than to gun him in his chute.

People bail but they click "tower" before even the chute opens. You can do that in MA.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: JAWS2003 on February 22, 2006, 12:45:07 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Mathman
The bigger question is who actually bails out of their plane? Not enough to make any change to the bail model as it is.

However, I would love any change that would increase the number of people bailing out. After I shoot some poor sap down, I like nothing better than to gun him in his chute.

Don't tell me you wouldn't want to see X-marine hanging in a chute in front of your cannons.:t
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Mathman on February 22, 2006, 01:14:06 PM: Quote
Originally posted by JAWS2003
Don't tell me you wouldn't want to see X-marine hanging in a chute in front of your cannons.:t

huh? Isn't that what I wrote?
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Krusty on February 22, 2006, 01:32:21 PM: I don't think bailing affects my score much, but I do it often, if I'm not popped instantly. Why? Why not? Who wants to ride it into the ground?

Hell it's only a game, and I think it's fun to bail from a plane that's going down.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Spiked on February 22, 2006, 01:58:22 PM: I bail most times ... simply for the dream that someday I will shoot a plane from the sky with my trusty 45. (have pinged a couple of aircraft that flew to close ... but mostly just lead flying off into space :aok )
Title: Bailing out
Post by: dedalos on February 22, 2006, 02:52:18 PM: OK but why? Why ask the question? You still get the kill so how does it really effect you? His score wont be effecetd as match? :confused:
Title: Bailing out
Post by: JAWS2003 on February 22, 2006, 02:58:58 PM: It would afect the score of bailing pilot , since is not the same having 20 bailouts and no deats (even if he bails at altitudes that no pilot could survive a bailout), or 10 bailouts and 10 deaths.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: JAWS2003 on February 22, 2006, 03:05:11 PM: There is already a timer for the chute to open. If you hit the ground during that time you die. As MA is now, you don't die if you just click tower.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: SuperDud on February 22, 2006, 03:53:51 PM: I bail when my tail has been shot off and I'm fluttering. It's quicker to bail and either free fall or hit .ef and get back into tower than to flutter down for 2-3 mins.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Brooke on February 22, 2006, 03:55:58 PM: I bail out if my plane is crippled and going down. I also try to make it back to base and to land after I'm out of ammo or if I've just enough fuel to make it back. The reason isn't score (which isn't large for anyone like me, anyway, who doesn't fly that often), but to work in a small extra amount of realism. For this reason, I'd like it if the bailing process were more realistic (harder, such as requriring the opening of canopy and unbuckling; and lower probability of it being survivable, such as reducing probability of living through it the faster you are going). However, I agree that this sort of request would add to the game only for a small minority of players and that there are many higher-priority features that should take precedence.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: hubsonfire on February 22, 2006, 04:49:35 PM: The only real benefit, if you can call it that, to a complicated bail-out routine that requires you to float to the ground, is more lil meatbombs for the rest of us to shoot, causing even those who bailed out to die senseless, violent deaths, utterly defeating the purpose of bailing out in the first place.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: pluck on February 22, 2006, 04:58:22 PM: i get angry when someone tries to steal my chute kill:furious
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Saintaw on February 22, 2006, 11:47:38 PM: I'm all for something that improves the rate of pple bailing... I mean COME ON... I only got to shoot at 2 chutes this month! No one ever bails any more... please think of the others!

*pouts*
Title: Bailing out
Post by: B@tfinkV on February 22, 2006, 11:56:25 PM: Times i bail out:

1)when falling from above 10k (saves time bailing and .ef)

2)when tail get shot off and fluttering down slowly. (once again, to save time not score.)

3) when im irectly over an enemy base/our own maproom for the sake of some .45 fun.

and most importantly;

4) In a furball when someone has shot off a wing or tail and I'm sitting there floating down slowly between enemy planes.

I refuse to let some tard STEAL THE KILL from the one who shot me down.

bail out, give the rightfull killer the kill, tower faster, back to the action faster.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Saintaw on February 22, 2006, 11:58:42 PM: Batfink... I command you to stare at my avatard for 5 minutes...
Title: Bailing out
Post by: B@tfinkV on February 23, 2006, 12:02:11 AM: :rofl

tripping out here and thats only been 4 mins.

now stare at mine for 10 mins!
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Scrap on February 23, 2006, 12:08:47 AM: A novel idea... might slow the AirQuake mentality a bit.....
Title: Bailing out
Post by: 2bighorn on February 23, 2006, 01:07:36 AM: Really simple fix. 100 perkies award for killing a chute.

I'm sure bailing would become less atractive :D
Title: Bailing out
Post by: BigR on February 23, 2006, 01:17:33 AM: I usually bail after divebombing my b17s so i can reup real quick and dive bomb some more. :aok
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Zaphod on February 23, 2006, 01:29:45 AM: Quote
Originally posted by SuperDud
I bail when my tail has been shot off and I'm fluttering. It's quicker to bail and either free fall or hit .ef and get back into tower than to flutter down for 2-3 mins.

exactly....I HATE being stuck nose high, no tail and just kiting down from 10k. Hit bail, .ef, back in the tower in no time standing in line for the next plane I can get shot out from under me (those guys in charge of giving out new planes are sooooooooooo gullible). :)

Zap
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 23, 2006, 02:56:03 AM: You can bail out?

ack-ack
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Saintaw on February 23, 2006, 03:54:14 AM: At your regular altitude AckAck... I'd say it wouldn't be safe to bail out wihout a spacesuit! :D
Title: Bailing out
Post by: SuperDud on February 23, 2006, 06:52:06 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Saintaw
At your regular altitude AckAck... I'd say it wouldn't be safe to bail out wihout a spacesuit! :D

PWN!!!
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Ghosth on February 23, 2006, 06:56:37 AM: Ride it in all the way, guns fireing.

Who cares about score & rank anyway?

Dieing is an important part of immersion.
Take the time & find a style, do it right!
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Martyn on February 23, 2006, 07:10:19 AM: If you are able to bail out successfully, and land without being shot by 'evil types', then - if you can (eventually) get back to a friendly field you should be able to retain any perks earned during the previous flight.

But we need to be able get a lift back on a GV or a plane - please please please.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Suave on February 23, 2006, 10:29:49 AM: Stop the bus! You mean bailers don't have to wait untill they're on dirt or drink to .ef ?

That's total BS!
Title: Bailing out
Post by: phookat on February 23, 2006, 10:43:26 AM: I also didn't realize that you could .ef immediately after bailing. I guess I will be bailing out from now on. Thanks for the tip Batfink.

Can you also bail at any time when after the chute has opened?
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Zaphod on February 23, 2006, 11:37:57 AM: Quote
Originally posted by phookat
I also didn't realize that you could .ef immediately after bailing. I guess I will be bailing out from now on. Thanks for the tip Batfink.

Can you also bail at any time when after the chute has opened?

No need to even open the chute. Just hit bail and then .ef or click tower.

Zaphod
Title: Bailing out
Post by: bigsky406 on February 23, 2006, 11:39:42 AM: Only time I bail and OPEN my chute is over an ENY base. After my 45 is empty I tower out.

Any other time I bail I don't bother opening my chute, my only wish is to have the option to free fall naked.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: kevykev56 on February 23, 2006, 01:48:04 PM: Quote
Originally posted by B@tfinkV
Times i bail out:

and most importantly;

4) In a furball when someone has shot off a wing or tail and I'm sitting there floating down slowly between enemy planes.

I refuse to let some tard STEAL THE KILL from the one who shot me down.

bail out, give the rightfull killer the kill, tower faster, back to the action faster.

This is the reason I bail out almost everytime I lose a critical part. More should do this especially those who are in phurball areas.

Your not going to land, give the guy who shot you the kill. Not the dweeb chasing your wreck.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Ouch on February 23, 2006, 01:59:40 PM: I use to bail out all the time. Of course it was by hitting the key 3 times accidentally.

I finally remapped my bail key to . . ummm. . .wait a minute and I'll find it . . . ahh hell.

Ouch out.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Mustaine on February 23, 2006, 02:19:03 PM: bailing from typing too fast is the number one reason i bailed...

second was i was pissed off at who shot me down, and i wanted to try and plug them with the .45

bail, chute, pop,pop,pop,pop,pop at the canopy on that jerk that shot me, then .ef when pistol is empty.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Suave on February 24, 2006, 06:20:12 AM: This must be addressed and fixed. This gives chute pilots a distinctly unfair advantage.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 24, 2006, 06:30:02 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Saintaw
At your regular altitude AckAck... I'd say it wouldn't be safe to bail out wihout a spacesuit! :D

At my altitude I don't need to worry about bailing out. Not like there's anyone else up there with me =)

ack-ack
Title: You are not alone up there...
Post by: Saintaw on February 24, 2006, 07:09:26 AM: (http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/issues/05_04/images/space-monkey.jpg)

:D
Title: Bailing out
Post by: hubsonfire on February 24, 2006, 09:55:39 AM: :rofl
Title: Re: You are not alone up there...
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 24, 2006, 05:13:03 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Saintaw
(http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/issues/05_04/images/space-monkey.jpg)

:D

That's a picture of Bojo.

ack-ack
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Brooke on February 25, 2006, 04:40:38 PM: Those who watched the cartoon series The Tick will recognize him as Yank, the Monkey.
Title: Bailing out
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 25, 2006, 05:25:25 PM: But those in the know will recognize him as Bojo, the Wonder Alt Monkey. My former wing man and current "life companion" of Hub.

ack-ack