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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Kaw1000 on February 23, 2006, 04:05:22 PM
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DARRELL SCOTT TESTIMONY
Guess our national leaders didn't expect this, hmm? On Thursday, Darrell
Scott, the father
of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in
Littleton, Colorado,
was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee What he
said to our
national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully
truthful. They were
not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to
be heard by
every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every
psychologist, and
every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are
powerful,
penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man
as a voice
crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript:
"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts
of
men and
women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The
death of my
wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic
teacher,
and the other
eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for
answers.
"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out
in the field.
The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National
Club
Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could
only be found
in Cain's heart.
"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how
quickly fingers
began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the
NRA.
I am not a
hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the
NRA, because I
don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore
I
do not
believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to
do
with Rachel's
murder I would be their strongest opponent.
I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy, it was a
spiritual event
that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the
blame lies
here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of
the
accusers
themselves. "I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings
best. This was
written way before I knew I would be speaking here today:
Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
You've stripped away our heritage,
You've outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question "Why?"
You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need!
"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and
spirit. When we
refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that
allows evil,
prejudice, and hatred to rush in and reek havoc. Spiritual presences were
present within
our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major
colleges began
as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to
us as a nation?
We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred
and violence.
And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs, politicians
immediately look
for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more
restrictive laws that
contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need
more
restrictive laws. "Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal
detectors. No
amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of
massacre. The
real villain lies within our own hearts.
"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two
friends
murdered before his very eyes-He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy
any law or
politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in
America, and around
the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at ColumbineHigh Schoolprayer
was brought
back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students
be in vain.
Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for
legislation
that violates
your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would
point your finger
at the NRA I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own
heart
before
casting the first stone!
My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country
will not allow
that to happen!"
:aok
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YAWN.
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Originally posted by Sandman
YAWN.
you gotta be kidding me......Sandman
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Why was it so split up and jagged? Kind of made it hard to read.
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Just an FYI. snopes verified the content posted here. Another version with additional text is also provided to illustrate the part that was added by an unknown person.
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From an email, I'll fix it.
DARRELL SCOTT TESTIMONY
Guess our national leaders didn't expect this, hmm? On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful. They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript:
"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts
of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.
"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out
in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.
"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how
quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA, because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.
I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy, it was a
spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. "I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This waswritten way before I knew I would be speaking here today:
Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
You've stripped away our heritage,
You've outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question "Why?"
You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need!
"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and
spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and reek havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred
and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs, politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. "Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.
"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two
friends murdered before his very eyes-He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at ColumbineHigh Schoolprayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"
I'd be willing to bet that Sandy has already checked snopes.
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i read it till' it incited religion...
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They worshiped devil by playing DOOM ( a most evil game designed), which is another form of religion. Therefore all religions are evil. How do we fight evil? We liberate it! I say liberate all forms of religion…. By killing it.
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Originally posted by Russian
They worshiped devil by playing DOOM ( a most evil game designed), which is another form of religion. Therefore all religions are evil. How do we fight evil? We liberate it! I say liberate all forms of religion…. By killing it.
And I will be you supporter 5 thousand miles away saying. "GO RUSSIAN!"
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Originally posted by Kaw1000
you gotta be kidding me......Sandman
Kaw1000, read this http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/scott.htm
then you can yawn too. 6 years and nothing has changed.
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I don't like the statement that prayer has been outlawed. It hasn't.
Also, consult the Bible.
Matthew:
6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
The problem isn't prayer, or religious. It's piss poor parenting.
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Religion and prayer won't keep a nut job from killing. Hell, if those nuts were religious, they'd probably think they were doing God's "righteous" work. To say that religion, and a lack thereof, caused those shootings is like saying Islam is the reason the middle east is so fluffied up. It just isn't true.
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If you can get past the talk of God, and many can't, it is a pretty powerful message.
I think of life when I was 10, and life now. Our culture has changed, our values have changed.
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Religion "may" help you deal with the aftermath of such an event.
But religion itself has created and caused more more death and killing than its ever stopped.
If you take the long view of history, and go back & seriously look at what has been done in the name of god. It is enough to make a rational person refuse to have anything to do with any organized religion.
Notice I said nothing about personal faith or belief. We are each entitled to our own.
But when it becomes organized into a religion, people die.
Most of the country's that are now Islamic were brought to it by the sword.
Convert or die was the accepted practise of the day.
As for Christianity, it has the most blood of all current religions on its hands.
Between the Crusades, the witch hunts, the Inquisition. The wars over who would be pope, the list goes on and on.
So don't tell me about religion "fixing" anything, it never has and never will.
Its simply provided justification for people doing what they wanted to do.
You want the truth of what happened at Columbine??
Those very same sons & daughters who turned their nose up at someone who was a bit different than the norm. Who turned their backs when he walked by. Who saw that he was ostrasized, and lonely and did nothing. They created their own fate. If enough of his classmates had been "true" christians, they could have prevented it. But while I see a lot of people going to church on sunday I see very very few true christians.
And until you have been one of the few standing on the outside.
Looking in at all the "normal" ones, you will have NO idea of what torment they put him through. I don't defend him, what he did was wrong.
If he'd stuck it out for a couple of years he could have gone to college, and found friends like himself. Found that there is more to life than what happens in High School.
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KAW did you purposely leave out "May 27, 1999" from the original text to let us assume that you meant "Last Thursday"?
Mac
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I agree with Ghosth.
Mac
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News flash, this just in : there is no god, the bible, koran , talmud and all scriptures are just books.
deal with it.
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Man made Religions Rock!!!
With three Hail Marys all is forgiven and Priests can once again fondle Alter Boys.
Catholics and Protestants can once again kill each other in the name of GOD.
Mormons can go forth and multiply in abundance.
We can also create our own Heavens and Hells....
James Jones and David Koresh did why can't you?.
Man makes their own tailor made religions to suit their own needs and to capitalize on it.
oh and I almost forgot........
IN
before the (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/images/threadclosed.gif)
Cuz the......
" Skuzzy Giveth and the Skuzzy Taketh Away."
Skuzzrithians 6:9.
Mac
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Gosh, All I did was post a E-Mail that I recieved and look what happens....people go wild over the religous thing....not one person saw anything about the NRA point of this story!!
BTW thanks for replies to the story!! Its good to see that!.....everyone has a opinion.......its good to see the differnces in opinions.....Some I dont agree with.....but hey...thats what make the world go around!
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Religion "may" help you deal with the aftermath of such an event.
But religion itself has created and caused more more death and killing than its ever stopped.
If you take the long view of history, and go back & seriously look at what has been done in the name of god. It is enough to make a rational person refuse to have anything to do with any organized religion.
Notice I said nothing about personal faith or belief. We are each entitled to our own.
But when it becomes organized into a religion, people die.
Most of the country's that are now Islamic were brought to it by the sword.
Convert or die was the accepted practise of the day.
As for Christianity, it has the most blood of all current religions on its hands.
Between the Crusades, the witch hunts, the Inquisition. The wars over who would be pope, the list goes on and on.
So don't tell me about religion "fixing" anything, it never has and never will.
Its simply provided justification for people doing what they wanted to do.
You want the truth of what happened at Columbine??
Those very same sons & daughters who turned their nose up at someone who was a bit different than the norm. Who turned their backs when he walked by. Who saw that he was ostrasized, and lonely and did nothing. They created their own fate. If enough of his classmates had been "true" christians, they could have prevented it. But while I see a lot of people going to church on sunday I see very very few true christians.
And until you have been one of the few standing on the outside.
Looking in at all the "normal" ones, you will have NO idea of what torment they put him through. I don't defend him, what he did was wrong.
If he'd stuck it out for a couple of years he could have gone to college, and found friends like himself. Found that there is more to life than what happens in High School.
Geezz let me get this right... so If I treat someone like sheet and ignor them and turn my nose up to them they have the right to kill me??? What are you thinking dude!!!!!!
:mad:
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Originally posted by skernsk
If you can get past the talk of God, and many can't, it is a pretty powerful message.
I think of life when I was 10, and life now. Our culture has changed, our values have changed.
well put skemsk!!:aok
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Originally posted by Kaw1000
Gosh, All I did was post a E-Mail that I recieved and look what happens....people go wild over the religous thing....not one person saw anything about the NRA point of this story!!
BTW thanks for replies to the story!! Its good to see that!.....everyone has a opinion.......its good to see the differnces in opinions.....Some I dont agree with.....but hey...thats what make the world go around!
Kaw, they'd rather the "Charade countinue" rather than allow people to be accountable for their actions. Good post.
Religion shouldn't have been brought into this, but again, why NOT skirt the issue at hand. Some of you should be politicans, yer so full of ****.
Karaya
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Originally posted by Kaw1000
Geezz let me get this right... so If I treat someone like sheet and ignor them and turn my nose up to them they have the right to kill me??? What are you thinking dude!!!!!!
:mad:
Kaw, that isnt what he said. Treat people however you want, but if you treat them like trash dont look all suprised when they crackup and showup with a shotgun.
I was one of those guys on the outside when I was in high school, military brat, dad retired back home, small town high school. I found myself surrounded by people who had grown up together since kindergarden. Not jock enough to belong to the jock crowd, not brainy enough for the scolastic over achievers. I got through it, lived to tell about. Its life, get over it. George Carlin has all the answers;)
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Me?
:confused:
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Originally posted by AWMac
Me?
:confused:
No.
Karaya
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wtf YAWNdoubled
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Originally posted by Airscrew
Kaw, that isnt what he said. Treat people however you want, but if you treat them like trash dont look all suprised when they crackup and showup with a shotgun.
I was one of those guys on the outside when I was in high school, military brat, dad retired back home, small town high school. I found myself surrounded by people who had grown up together since kindergarden. Not jock enough to belong to the jock crowd, not brainy enough for the scolastic over achievers. I got through it, lived to tell about. Its life, get over it. George Carlin has all the answers;)
I've been treated like sheet alot of times in life...I dont think Ill shoot anyone for it.....I think ghost is kinda sticking up for these sick kids that feel that if someone makes fun of them they need to die..or as he puts it "seals their own fate"
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Originally posted by Kaw1000
Gosh, All I did was post a E-Mail that I recieved and look what happens....people go wild over the religous thing....not one person saw anything about the NRA point of this story!!
BTW thanks for replies to the story!! Its good to see that!.....everyone has a opinion.......its good to see the differnces in opinions.....Some I dont agree with.....but hey...thats what make the world go around!
Yawn.
My opinion of posts like this is that it is one of two things.
1. A prelude to the internet version of a group hug.
2. A troll.
In either case, a waste of time.
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Dont read it then!!!:rolleyes:
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I'm doing my bit for the community so to speak... trying to protect them from stupid ****.
;)
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(http://www.geocities.com/lip_gloss_gals/troll13.gif)
Please Don't Feed the Kaw.
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too my friend AW And Sandman
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/883_1137854336_stfu.swf
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LOL.
YHBTYHLHAND.
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Wow, :eek: thanks for the brotherly christian love there Kaw....
Is it time for the intardnet group hug? :lol
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j/k guys just a joke!!!!
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Originally posted by Sandman
I'm doing my bit for the community so to speak... trying to protect them from stupid ****.
;)
Sandy,
Thanks for trying to protect the community but in all seriousness you don't need to. As a part of the community I'd rather you didn't. Thank you. A post consisting of "YAWN" is hardly much protection to boot.
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My sister was a grief counsoler for the jefferson county sherrifs dept and from what she told me most of those kids will never be the same.
A very sad day that was.
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"I don't defend him, what he did was wrong."
Read it all Kaw
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I was in 4th grade when it happened. School was on lock down. Columbine is an hour or 2 drive from where my elementary school was. The grief was "felt" for about a week. After that everyone went their own ways.
On another note my friend sent me a message that said Klebold? had been on some AFB in Pennsylvania that has been linked to many occult type activities, including neo-nazism and the "skinhead movement". That's just a conspiracy theory though right? The government would never brainwash their own citizens into killing each other, right?
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I believe I was in 7th at the time. Everyone in my school freaked out. I'm not talking about them just being a little bit worried. I mean that if someone said the word "Bang" loud enough in the halls, people would start panicking like 4 year old girls. Screaming, jumping in place, flailing arms...
Anyway, my school thought it necessary to host a 'Peace' rally or something. They even collected "Peace" submissions and formed a large pamphlet with collections of all the poems and thoughts.
So everyone was meeting in the gym on the bleachers, and I was just sitting there. I had enough of this idiocy. There are a couple people getting up and talking, some people are hugging, a few are crying...
Well my brain decides that this is all really really funny. And so I started to laugh. Really really loud. I'm sitting in a group of about 400 11-14 year olds who are really worried, and I'm laughing at each and everyone of them. Once everyone was quiet and staring at me, it just got funnier.
Eventually I pissed off one of the administrators and I was lead out as I started laughing harder.
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that's so sad....yet so good laser:t We talked about it in class the day after and we were done, nothing more was said.
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It happened while I was at work delivering glass, and it pissed me off cause this stupid bartender chick, was watching the tv and crying instead of signing my invoice, so I could get on to the next stop. Where this was repeated.:mad:
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It was a trajic waste that none of the teachers were able to shoot those kids who were murdering all the unarmed sheep that the government led to slaughter.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
It was a trajic waste that none of the teachers were able to shoot those kids who were murdering all the unarmed sheep that the government led to slaughter.
lazs
You really want to place that burden on the teachers?
I mean crap there underpayed as it is.
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You really want to place that burden on the teachers?
I mean crap there underpayed as it is.
Yes.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Yes.
Teachers have no buisness doing anything but teaching.
There should be tight azzed security at schools I agree with that.
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Hey, they work their tulips off to corrupt our children. They might as well keep them alive in the process...
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burden? who is putting a burden on em? I would simply allow them to carryu concealled if they wanted to... I doubt that more than 10% would but I also know that 10% would probly be enough. It sure couldn't hurt.
Talk about burden tho...... How much "burden" is it to expect them to shield the kids with their own bodies while being butchered by the only armed person in the place (the bad guy)?
I am not the one causing "burdens" here.
Oh... and underpayed? best paid part time job around so far as I can see.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
Oh... and underpayed? best paid part time job around so far as I can see.
lazs
could someone explain why school is only 182 days a year? Is it because the kids are needed to plant and harvest the crops?
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Originally posted by lazs2
burden? who is putting a burden on em? I would simply allow them to carryu concealled if they wanted to... I doubt that more than 10% would but I also know that 10% would probly be enough. It sure couldn't hurt.
Talk about burden tho...... How much "burden" is it to expect them to shield the kids with their own bodies while being butchered by the only armed person in the place (the bad guy)?
I am not the one causing "burdens" here.
Oh... and underpayed? best paid part time job around so far as I can see.
lazs
LOL yeah average teacher pay 40k a year and pro ball players make millions and end up on the 10 o clock news busted at some strip club with coke so yeah I say there under payed.
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use part time workers at 40k a year or druggie ball players at millions for examples....
either way... I am underpayed. so are about 90% of the people in the states if you are using teachers and ball players as yardsticks.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
use part time workers at 40k a year or druggie ball players at millions for examples....
either way... I am underpayed. so are about 90% of the people in the states if you are using teachers and ball players as yardsticks.
lazs
I would agree with that lost of Americans are underpaid.
Oh and byt the way teachers work year round for the most part.
Think of it this way these people teachers are in charge of educating your kids
and spend more time around your kids than you do.
So I would think you would want them to be well paid professions that are happy with the jobs.
It is the school districts job to provide security for the schools not the teachers.
I cant think of a more dissturbing picture than a teacher walking around packin heat:huh
And I think it would be wrong to ask these people who should be helping our kids learn to shoot one of them.
I dont think they have the mind set or the training to do that indeed proffesional police officers have a hard time shooting someone.
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I am not asking anyone to do anything. I am saying that a certain percent of teachers would voluntarily carry concealled and that it would do a lot to solve the problem.
I am also saying that teachers are paid a salary for a job that is part time and...
I would as soon that they not do it. I would sooner have a voucher system of education so that I could pick the school and teachers that I wanted to pay for. I am sure that no private school could do a worse job than what we have now.
I don't care who's fault that is.... public schools are disasters that need to be removed from the picture or at the very least... compete with private schools for our hard earned tax money. We are getting very little for what we are paying right now.
lazs