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Toronto police horse killed in hit and run
Saturday, February 25, 2006
A horse with the Toronto police mounted unit was killed in a hit- and-run accident last night.
The collision happened at 6:55 p.m. when an officer and his mount, nine-year-old Brigadier, tried to pull over a black 1994 Nissan Quest on Lawrence Avenue between Kingston Road and Morningside Avenue.
Shortly after the vehicle was stopped, the driver sped away suddenly, knocking the horse and officer over.
"The officer and his mount were both left laying on the roadway," Staff Sergeant David Simpkins said.
The officer was taken to hospital with a broken rib. But Brigadier suffered injuries so serious he had to be put down at the scene.
"Every officer involved in this incident mourns the loss of that animal and I think the entire city of Toronto will be touched by the loss of this animal, as well," Police Chief Bill Blair told Citytv.
The suspect's vehicle was discovered abandoned in the Orton Park Road and Lawrence Avenue area shortly after the crash. The driver is still at large.
source (http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=0d415d0a-ced8-4570-bac3-5bbf992fc1fe&k=64026)
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They have now caught this guy...he ran from police in his car, made a U-turn and drove into the horse...seeing the film of this on the six o'clock news was pretty disturbing...
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Thats just Wrong:mad:
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There was a scumbag bank robber here who shot a K-9 dog when it tree'd him in the woods. The dog was killed instantly. About 5 minutes later, a police sniper spotted the scumbag in the woods. Five seconds after that, the scumbag caught a 168 grain Sierra MatchKing right between the eyes.
Oh, and the K-9 dog got a full honors funeral, including a procession that went through the city.
Works for me.
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Can they not afford police cars in canada?
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Police cars can't use the sidewalk......
But I actually hate Cops on horses. They are usually bigger tulips then the ones they are sitting on.
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this is an updated and more detailed account of what happened, including names etc...:mad: :mad:
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It was a heartbreaking act of mercy that will likely never escape the memories of those involved.
After a mounted police officer and his horse were knocked down in an alleged hit and run Friday night, officers were forced to shoot the animal, which was enduring excruciating pain.
The tragic incident took place at Lawrence and Kingston Road just before 7pm.
The officer suffered neck, back and rib injuries and he has since been released from hospital, but he is very troubled over the loss of his partner, a horse with five years service named Brigadier.
Emotions ran high at the scene and people who saw the incident were deeply shaken.
“There was a lot of commotion around the horse and the officers I guess did as much as they could. And then we all heard two loud gunshots,” witness Jane Evans explained as she tried to hold back tears.
The death of the majestic creature shook even veteran officers. The last time a horse had to be put down was four years ago.
“These horses mean a lot to us,” said Staff Insp. Bill Wardle. “No one would be in the Mounted Unit if they didn't like horses and it was difficult.”
Chief Bill Blair was quick to respond to the tragedy.
“This is a devastating incident for the officers involved and for all of our officers. We lost an important partner tonight,” he said.
“The officers of the Mounted Unit that had to experience this and make the very difficult decision to end this animal's suffering, they were devastated by the loss.”
Witnesses said the horse and the officer were crossing from the south side of Lawrence to the north side when they were struck by a van going westbound.
The pair was patrolling with another mounted officer when someone told them about a man using a drive-through ATM who was cursing at the person in front of him.
The mounted officers approached and asked the man to pull over, but the driver apparently sped away instead. The officers rode away and that’s when the motorist allegedly made a U-turn on Lawrence and aimed his vehicle at the horse and officer.
Police claim the hit was intentional and the suspect accelerated toward the victims.
Investigators located an abandoned vehicle, a dark coloured minivan, in the Orton Park and Lawrence area and allegedly found horsehair embedded in the shattered window. After finding the van, investigators arrested a suspect at his home.
Dirk Sankersingh, 42, is facing charges of dangerous driving and failing to stop after an accident. He appeared in court Saturday morning.
here (http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20060224-017/page.asp)
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Dirk Sankersingh, 42, is facing charges of dangerous driving and failing to stop after an accident. He appeared in court Saturday morning.
Only dangerous driving? If the article is true, he attempted to MURDER the horse and the police officer.
That is if the article is true, it might not be...
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I'm a bit confused right now too...the city is very pissed off about this...attempt murder of a policeman should be the charge...I don't know what the charge is for killing a police horse
I will be watching this one closely
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In america, a police animal is just as much of a COP as a Human police man is. Trying to kill a k9 unit is just the same as attempted murder.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
In america, a police animal is just as much of a COP as a Human police man is. Trying to kill a k9 unit is just the same as attempted murder.
Man... we have some ****ed up laws in this country.
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Having just watched Resevoir Dogs, I know what I would like to do with my five minutes alone with Mr Sinkersing.
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In america, a police animal is just as much of a COP as a Human police man is. Trying to kill a k9 unit is just the same as attempted murder.
Please post one example of someone being charged and/or convicted of murder or attempted murder as the result of killing a police animal. Most jurisdiction have specific laws that deal with the deliberate killing of police animals and none that I know of are the equivalent to the murder of a human being, cop or otherwise...
State Statutes Protecting Police Dogs (http://www.policek9.com/html/statutes.html)
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Originally posted by Sandman
Man... we have some ****ed up laws in this country.
Why shouldn't the dog rate as high as the human officer? The dog should damned sure rate higher than some scumbag thug. As the example in my post upthread shows, around here shooting a K-9 dog around here earns you a bullet, and rightly so. The dogs around here are getting level 3 body armor.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Why shouldn't the dog rate as high as the human officer? The dog should damned sure rate higher than some scumbag thug. As the example in my post upthread shows, around here shooting a K-9 dog around here earns you a bullet, and rightly so. The dogs around here are getting level 3 body armor.
Sandy is a criminal loving commie?
now seriously
animal volunteer=cop>perp.
lefties just think o it as a late term abortion.
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I'm sorry to see any animal die - horse, dog, cat - but **** happens...
I was once told a joke about a police horse - cannot repeat it here though... :o
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hmmm looks like a missed opportunity for some fine traditional cuban tasajo
http://www.icuban.com/3guys/ay_mama.html
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Why shouldn't the dog rate as high as the human officer?
It's a dog.
Dogs are domesticated animals. They are not humans.
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Originally posted by Pooh21
Sandy is a criminal loving commie?
now seriously
animal volunteer=cop>perp.
lefties just think o it as a late term abortion.
Animals are not volunteers. They are domesticated. No one asked them permission because strangely enough, they don't speak human.
Duh.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Why shouldn't the dog rate as high as the human officer?
Ummm...because it's a dog. Stiffer punishment than killing a regular dog, sure. Murder charges of the same stiffness as for killing a human? Of course not.
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found this link that may help clarify:
here (http://www.policek9.com/html/statutes.html)
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Can they not afford police cars in canada?
(http://www.hansonhomestead.com/Yukon_River_2002/Photos/Royal_Canadian_Mounted_Police.jpg)
(http://www.dudley-do-right.com/images/dudley_1.jpg)
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read up on a RCMP officer named Sam Steele. his story goes a long way fleshing out the concept of a "neck of brass" the RCMP is an exemplary law enforcement unit with a long history of distinguished service dudley do right is really the LAPD or Miami's finest.
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In recognition of the valuable role these animals play in police duties and the dangers they face, there have been a number of measures to ensure their protection. These include outfitting dogs with bulletproof vests to protect them from guns and some areas have passed laws that make attacking a police dog a felony.
it's from Wikipedia so take it as you may.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_dog
From a monitary stand point police dogs arent cheap. Just like the officers they work with they are expensive to train.
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Originally posted by Bruno
Please post one example of someone being charged and/or convicted of murder or attempted murder as the result of killing a police animal. Most jurisdiction have specific laws that deal with the deliberate killing of police animals and none that I know of are the equivalent to the murder of a human being, cop or otherwise...
State Statutes Protecting Police Dogs (http://www.policek9.com/html/statutes.html)
About 20 years ago A dude was hold up i his house and they sent in the Police dog.
He shot the dog and I think the bullett count on his bady was 42 rnds.
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About 20 years ago A dude was hold up i his house and they sent in the Police dog.
He shot the dog and I think the bullett count on his bady was 42 rnds.
What's any of that have to do with what I wrote in my post?
Unless you are trying to tell me the guy who killed the dog was charged and convicted of capital murder for killing the police dog and then sentenced to a firing squad. Is that what you are saying?
If the police killed the man in revenge for killing the dog then they are the murderers and should have been charged as such.
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On the bright side...
think of all the police dogs this will feed!
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Originally posted by Vulcan
On the bright side...
think of all the police dogs this will feed!
tasers Vulcan before he can reach the door.:rofl
unless you are talking about Mr Sinkrswims meat. Hopefully he has an accident while in police custody:rofl :aok :aok :aok
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I'm truly sorry for the loss. Those are devoted, loyal animals doing a job they did not ask for. The people who choose to work with them (and I know three) are also particularly devoted to the animals, and are emotionally very bound-up in them. (as they should be, IMO).
It's my understanding the the RCMP is a well-respected and capable organization. If I were in trouble in the Great White North, I'd be glad to see 'em coming.
Finally...justice would not come from one of us getting 10 minutes alone with Dirk Sinkorswim. Ten minutes alone with an angry horse in a tight stall would do the trick nicely, though, dontcha' think? My money's on the 1000 lb horse...
PS...'Dirk'. You gotta be kidding me...:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Bruno
What's any of that have to do with what I wrote in my post?
Unless you are trying to tell me the guy who killed the dog was charged and convicted of capital murder for killing the police dog and then sentenced to a firing squad. Is that what you are saying?
If the police killed the man in revenge for killing the dog then they are the murderers and should have been charged as such.
It has everything to do with your post.
The officers responded in the same manner as if a human officer had been shot.
Now that should tell you what level of protection from the law police service dogs have same as human.
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The officers responded in the same manner as if a human officer had been shot.
My post deals with law and the claims of the 'engineer':
Trying to kill a k9 unit is just the same as attempted murder.
It has nothing to do with some 20 year old urdan legend about 'cops' taking revenge on a dog killer by killing the dog killer in return.
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Police dogs are conciderd police officers so killing one is like killing a cop.
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Police horse killed in hit-and-run incident
Last updated Feb 27 2006 10:35 AM EST
CBC News
Toronto Police are mourning the loss of one of their horses following a hit-and-run accident in Scarborough. Brigadier was hit by a van just before 7 p.m. Friday as mounted officers attempted to pull over the vehicle near Lawrence Avenue East and Kingston Road. Police said the motorist initially drove away from the officers when they told him to pull over. He then made a U-turn and drove the van directly at the mounted officers, police said. The van sped away after hitting Brigadier. The badly injured horse was euthanized at the scene. His rider, Const. Kevin Bradfield, was taken to hospital with non-life threatening injuries. Police located the abandoned vehicle a short distance away. Later Friday evening, a 42-year-old man was arrested and charged with dangerous operation of a motor vehicle causing bodily harm, and failing to stop at the scene of an accident causing bodily harm. He was held in custody over the weekend and was scheduled to make a second court appearance Monday. Staff Insp. Bill Wardle, the unit commander of the Toronto Police Mounted and Police Dog Service, said Brigadier's death has touched many people. "The officers' families are devastated because Brigadier was a member of their family," Wardle said. "All of us here can understand that." A memorial service for Brigadier is scheduled for Thursday. Until then, the flag will fly at half-mast over the police stables on the grounds of the Canadian National Exhibition.
c&p (http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/story/to_horse20060227.html)
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
Police dogs are conciderd police officers so killing one is like killing a cop.
IIRC, they execute cop killers.
I can't think of a single person ever executed for killing a dog.