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Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Chitownflyer on February 28, 2006, 01:21:16 PM
Tracing route to argon.gamerslobby.net [206.123.111.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     1 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  adsl-69-220-.xxx-xxx..dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net [69.220.xxx.xxx]
  3    53 ms    51 ms    51 ms  adsl-69-220-187-254.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net [69.220.187.254]
  4    52 ms    54 ms    52 ms  dist2-vlan62.chcgil.ameritech.net [67.38.101.67]
  5    51 ms    52 ms    53 ms  bb2-g3-0.chcgil.ameritech.net [151.164.190.122]
  6    52 ms    53 ms    53 ms  ex1-p0-0.eqchil.sbcglobal.net [151.164.42.147]
  7    54 ms    53 ms    53 ms  ge-3-0-1.edge2.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.127.225]
  8    54 ms    54 ms    53 ms  ae-1-55.bbr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.129]
  9    82 ms    82 ms    81 ms  as-0-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [209.247.11.22]
 10    83 ms    83 ms    83 ms  ae-12-55.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.142]
 11    85 ms    86 ms    85 ms  4.78.224.74
 12    85 ms    84 ms    83 ms  206.123.64.30
 13    87 ms    86 ms    84 ms  206.123.64.98
 14    85 ms    85 ms    85 ms  argon.gamerslobby.net [206.123.111.42]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\work>
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Zazen13 on February 28, 2006, 01:28:35 PM
My connection has always been good, but it's twice as good now. My ping to AH MA server went from 62 to 31. I would occassionally get the odd variance spike with the old location, it's smooth as silk now. Overall, a big improvement...wtg HTC..

Zazen
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: 2bighorn on February 28, 2006, 01:32:38 PM
Woohoo, 12 hops and 50ms from west coast. :aok
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Waffle on February 28, 2006, 04:22:59 PM
went from 31 ms to 16 ms.... i guess thats good :)
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: wojo71 on February 28, 2006, 07:04:51 PM
Wow ,7 hops for me now :aok
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Swarmed on February 28, 2006, 07:27:14 PM
My ping while waiting for the server went from 62 to 14 today.
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Flayed1 on February 28, 2006, 07:46:00 PM
My ping went down to 219 from I think it was anywhere between 230 and 256. :)
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: hubsonfire on February 28, 2006, 07:49:28 PM
70 to 130ms slower. :(
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Stang on February 28, 2006, 08:03:20 PM
Mine went up from 31 to 49 grrr.

Hub, dial-up rules, eh?

:t
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Mugzeee on February 28, 2006, 08:03:57 PM
40ish to now 100+ My Variance in Delay used to run dead flat...with ocassional small spikes due to vox transmissions. Now mt VinD is a constant squiggly line just level with the base line.
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: hubsonfire on February 28, 2006, 09:13:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Stang
Mine went up from 31 to 49 grrr.

Hub, dial-up rules, eh?

:t


HTC changes ISPs, my ping doubles. I change ISPs, my ping drops 100ms. HTC changes ISPs again, my ping jumps again. I'm out of ISPs; what now?   :(
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: SuperDud on February 28, 2006, 10:14:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hubsonfire
HTC changes ISPs, my ping doubles. I change ISPs, my ping drops 100ms. HTC changes ISPs again, my ping jumps again. I'm out of ISPs; what now?   :(


Quit, HTCs trying nicely to give you the hint. No one wants you around hub!#@#@#@!
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: MIShill on February 28, 2006, 10:40:10 PM
Mine dropped from 65 to 41 with less variance.
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Saintaw on March 01, 2006, 12:50:53 AM
130 -> 141. I'm too old to realy see the diference I guess :)
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Wilbus on March 01, 2006, 01:08:18 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Saintaw
130 -> 141. I'm too old to realy see the diference I guess :)


Yup. At your age your reactions are usually so slow that a 90ms or 900ms ping won't matter much.

Descriptions like "I took hits 2 seconds after you passed" is an everyday occurance for you, both on the internet and the real life.

:p
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Mr No Name on March 01, 2006, 02:26:27 AM
mine went fron 63 to 236
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Schatzi on March 01, 2006, 03:17:00 AM
Ping stayed the same, more hops. Not sure about stability yet.
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: bozon on March 01, 2006, 03:49:52 AM
Yesterday ping dropped from ~250 to ~200ms (comming half way around the globe:) ). Also seemed more stable.

I didn't check the number of hops, but I'll monitor that too for the next few days.
lookin' good so far HTC  :aok

Bozon
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Curval on March 01, 2006, 04:46:47 AM
I tried to trace to what I thought was the MA server but get 100% package loss and Unable to reach destination.  Can someone let me know what the IP address is please?
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Saintaw on March 01, 2006, 05:13:08 AM
Curval, my dear ;)

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68316
Quote
Skuzzman sayeth:

Main Arena Server Address: 206.123.111.42
All other arenas: 206.16.60.38
All pink wearing short bikers will have additional hops untill they send me a box of cuban cigars!*
 


*- that last one is paraphrased...
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Curval on March 01, 2006, 05:35:25 AM
Thanks Frenchperson.

91ms average here...sweeeeeet.
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: MotleyCH on March 01, 2006, 06:14:17 AM
my ping at work used be 13 before the server moved to att? then it was 29 now its 39 after yesterdays move.

at my house its like 180 on dialup
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Hajo on March 01, 2006, 07:00:52 AM
My Pings to the new IP avg. about 30ms higher.  Fine all the way until I hit DallasLevel3net.......the route constantly changes at that point and my pings go from 34 to as high as 80 and most times have packet loss at Dallas Level3net.

To me.....not a very good trade off.
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: culero on March 01, 2006, 07:38:44 AM
The new arena connection rocks from south Texas.

culero

(http://home.rgv.rr.com/casamyers/pingshot.jpg)

Target Name: argon.gamerslobby.net
         IP: 206.123.111.42

 1   13 ms    7 ms   10 ms    8 ms    8 ms  [10.102.96.1]
 2    8 ms   10 ms    7 ms    7 ms    9 ms  srp1-0.phrrtxhe-rtr1.rgv.rr.com [66.68.192.33]
 3   12 ms   12 ms   12 ms   12 ms   14 ms  pos2-0.lardtxhe-rtr2.stx.rr.com [24.170.64.129]
 4   12 ms   12 ms   13 ms   12 ms   11 ms  pos3-0.lardtxhe-rtr1.stx.rr.com [24.170.64.125]
 5   24 ms   25 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms  son2-0-3.dllatxl3-rtr1.texas.rr.com [24.93.34.54]
 6   22 ms   37 ms   23 ms   23 ms   24 ms  son1-0-1.hstqtxl3-rtr1.texas.rr.com [24.93.33.70]
 7   27 ms   30 ms   28 ms   28 ms   29 ms  so-3-2-0-0.gar2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.78.234.17]
 8   28 ms   29 ms   28 ms   27 ms   28 ms  ae-12-51.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.14]
 9   32 ms   29 ms   30 ms   30 ms   30 ms  [4.78.224.74]
10   30 ms   34 ms   30 ms   30 ms   31 ms  [206.123.64.30]
11   31 ms   32 ms   31 ms   32 ms   30 ms  [206.123.64.98]
12   30 ms   31 ms   28 ms   30 ms   29 ms  argon.gamerslobby.net [206.123.111.42]
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Krusty on March 01, 2006, 12:01:05 PM
Hrm... I'm down to 13 hops, and my ping in general is down from 50-60 to 38.

However, of the 13 hops, 4 have 90% packet loss.

EDIT:


Hop  IP Address       Host Name                     Sent  Recv     RTT  Av RTT  Min RTT  Max RTT % Loss

1    192.168.0.1      [Unknown]                        9     9     0ms     0ms      0ms      0ms     0%
2    ---              [No response]                  ---   ---     ---     ---      ---      ---    ---
3    68.86.105.153    [Unknown]                        9     9    13ms    11ms      8ms     23ms     0%
4    68.86.103.126    [Unknown]                        9     9    15ms    13ms      8ms     26ms     0%
5    68.86.103.41     [Unknown]                        9     9     9ms    11ms      9ms     19ms     0%
6    68.86.103.182    [Unknown]                        9     9     9ms    10ms      9ms     16ms     0%
7    12.124.157.53    [Unknown]                        9     9    11ms    13ms     10ms     17ms     0%
8    12.123.36.150    gbr2-p40.dvmco.ip.att.net        9     1    32ms    32ms     32ms     32ms    89%
9    12.122.1.42      [Unknown]                        9     1    33ms    33ms     33ms     33ms    89%
10   12.122.12.125    tbr2-cl33.dlstx.ip.att.net       9     1    35ms    35ms     35ms     35ms    89%
11   12.122.84.129    [Unknown]                        8     1    31ms    31ms     31ms     31ms    88%
12   12.124.215.6     [Unknown]                        8     8    37ms    42ms     36ms     60ms     0%
13   12.193.161.229   [url]www.flyaceshigh.com[/url]              8     8    38ms    40ms     35ms     54ms     0%
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: icemaw on March 01, 2006, 12:01:33 PM
no trace route but my ping time went from mid 60's to low 40's
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Mugzeee on March 01, 2006, 12:19:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mugzeee
My ping was 40ish to now 100+ My Variance in Delay used to run dead flat...with ocassional small spikes due to vox transmissions. Now my Variance is a constant squiggly line just level with the base line.

First of all i eited my quote for some typos. :D
OK now...just checked Ping to MA this early afternoon 1:00pm est.
runniing around 120 now.
edit: PS i have no Pingplot files from previous server. So i cant really compare them. I can only go by the Ping i see into the MA and compare the Variance as i usually look at variance several times per session.
Its still less stable than it was on the previous server.
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Skuzzy on March 01, 2006, 12:57:17 PM
You can compare the routes.  All the other servers are still at AT&T.  Only the MA has been moved.

I am starting a thread for the purposes of gathering such information.
Title: Re: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: dedalos on March 01, 2006, 01:30:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Chitownflyer
Tracing route to argon.gamerslobby.net [206.123.111.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     1 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  adsl-69-220-.xxx-xxx..dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net [69.220.xxx.xxx]
  3    53 ms    51 ms    51 ms  adsl-69-220-187-254.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net [69.220.187.254]
  4    52 ms    54 ms    52 ms  dist2-vlan62.chcgil.ameritech.net [67.38.101.67]
  5    51 ms    52 ms    53 ms  bb2-g3-0.chcgil.ameritech.net [151.164.190.122]
  6    52 ms    53 ms    53 ms  ex1-p0-0.eqchil.sbcglobal.net [151.164.42.147]
  7    54 ms    53 ms    53 ms  ge-3-0-1.edge2.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.127.225]
  8    54 ms    54 ms    53 ms  ae-1-55.bbr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.129]
  9    82 ms    82 ms    81 ms  as-0-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [209.247.11.22]
 10    83 ms    83 ms    83 ms  ae-12-55.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.142]
 11    85 ms    86 ms    85 ms  4.78.224.74
 12    85 ms    84 ms    83 ms  206.123.64.30
 13    87 ms    86 ms    84 ms  206.123.64.98
 14    85 ms    85 ms    85 ms  argon.gamerslobby.net [206.123.111.42]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\work>


90 hops from Chicago? :O  I think mine was around 10 (Using SBC)
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Mugzeee on March 01, 2006, 03:22:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
You can compare the routes.  All the other servers are still at AT&T.  Only the MA has been moved.

I am starting a thread for the purposes of gathering such information.
 Skuzzy. Are we to believe that server load doesnt affect Variance or Ping? Because i can assure you that my connection stability is always worse when there are more players on. Especially when there are like 500+ players online. The Variance for me get's rather choppy every night. Therefore how can we really compare the MA against the other arenas and get a true reading? Like going to the Backup MA for example.
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Skuzzy on March 01, 2006, 03:24:14 PM
I was referring to the traces/ping plots Mugz.  Those can be compared and tell us a lot.  Remember, this is just a test.  We have not made a formal decision to leave the server at the new location, but we want to give them a fair shot as well.

You cannot use Netstat to get a complete picture.  Some people's pings will go up, but the overall connection quality could be better.  Some could go down, but that still does not go to the quality of the connection.

A low ping does little for you if you get a lot of discos.
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Mugzeee on March 01, 2006, 03:55:00 PM
i personally dont get many discos. In the other thread i stated "worse" In the MA when my Variance is choppy my screen freezes more. With that said, ill enter the same answer here as well. Based on Ping and Variance...Worse.
Title: Re: Re: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: Chitownflyer on March 01, 2006, 11:13:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by dedalos
90 hops from Chicago? :O  I think mine was around 10 (Using SBC)


TYPO...it's 19  not  90..sorry ;)
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 02, 2006, 12:12:52 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
I was referring to the traces/ping plots Mugz.  Those can be compared and tell us a lot.  Remember, this is just a test.  We have not made a formal decision to leave the server at the new location, but we want to give them a fair shot as well.

You cannot use Netstat to get a complete picture.  Some people's pings will go up, but the overall connection quality could be better.  Some could go down, but that still does not go to the quality of the connection.

A low ping does little for you if you get a lot of discos.


Question. May be a dumb question but I'll ask anyway.

Why doesnt HTC simply have its own servers rather then go through another party?

then you could run it the way you want.

Or isnt it that simple?

Dont knwo the first thing about servers personally so please educate me
Title: my trace rt is from 90 to 14 hops WTG :)
Post by: hitech on March 02, 2006, 09:05:06 AM
We have all are own servers, The question is how and where do you connect them into the internet.

You can either colo them with some service provider, basicly put the servers in there building. Or run a line from there building to you. Putting the servers on there sight is less expensive, and provides acces to hi bandwidth burst. But either way you are at the mercy of your providers connections. We have moved the Main arena , same server you have been playing on, to another building, hence another provider with different routs into the internet.


HiTech