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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Karnak on December 18, 2000, 05:41:00 PM
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This is taken from the 1.05 Perk system description:
The perk system is a way for us to introduce some interesting but otherwise unbalancing planes on a limited basis but the benefits go deeper than that. Perk planes (and vehicles) would be things like Me 262s, Ta 152s, Tempests, B-29s, Ar 234s, Tiger IIs, etc.
The first time somebody losses a perk Tiger II to an opportunistic bomb dropped from a lowly A6M5b there will be such a whine as the world has rarely heard.
The reason:
The Tiger II, while very difficult to kill with a tank or by strafing with cannon and rockets, will be very, Very vulnerable to bombs. In this circumstance it matters little whether you are flying a Spitfire MkXIV or an A6M5b.
HTC,
How will scoring reflect this kind of situation. Will this be a bonanza of easy points for the lucky Zero pilot or will the ease with which any aircraft can destroy tanks using bombs be taken into account?
Sisu
-Karnak
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Tempest perked .. ayayayayayayaayy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Karnak.. yah just bought a new Mercedes. Yah worked hard for it, it cost you dearly; the wife's pissed cause the washers busted and she needs new shoes.. but you got yer Mercedes.
Yer sittin at the traffic light 1/2 block from home and some moron in a Hundai rear-ends you. Or you come outta the gas station office having paid fer yer first tank of gas to discover some dickweed with a landscape truck on the other side of the island has a bonfire goin, and yer new 'cedes is TOAST. Or yer wife; in a fit of insanity takes it shopping... and gets it 'carted' by every loose shopping cart in the lot.
Only 'safe' place to keep it is in the garage.. or is it...... seems the dealersip has yer address; and as a result, so do the car theives...
Life sucks. toejam happens.. and happens all de time. Murphy Lives! Long Live Murphy!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
[This message has been edited by Hangtime (edited 12-18-2000).]
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That may be one whine source, but I found a larger one. Notice that ENY column in the hangar? That'll tell you which plane will be most profitable to shoot down. Figure since the criers say C-hogs and Nikis are all people fly, you can figure out which plane to hunt. This can get very bad. If you're out in an F6F, and a squad is out in Spit Vs, they'll hunt your bellybutton down for perk points. Removing this ENY entry would help, since you'd have to take the time to figure out which planes to hunt in a given ride.
A theoretical example:
Axis vs Allies arena comes into existance. With this ENY entry you can calculate how many perk points you'll get per kill of a Mudstain in your 109 F4. So now every Mudstain driver is a marked target, constantly hunted by inferior 109 F4s because they are worth hella perk points dead. Mudstain drivers (Hangtime, etc...) now scream bloody murder about being hunted just for driving their fav plane. The reverse is also true; some guy flying a 190-D9 might end up getting hunted down by a gaggle of Spit Vs.
Creates utter chaos. It may not happen often, but it WILL happen. Every guy in an early war plane will have an easy time figuring out who to hunt for perk points. Same goes, to a lesser extent, for the vehicles. Someone who finally got enough points to drive his beloved Panther G tank would get his bellybutton hunted down by swarms of Panzer IIIs. Why? He's worth about 6 perk points dead to them. Granted, you'll see people finally banding together for protection. But you'll also see a sh^tload of kill-stealing; you got the wing of that Ta-152, but some other guy will blow it to bits, steal the kill, for a chance at perk points.
This is worse case scenario, but I won't fly in an environment such as this. The Ostie scurge will be gone, replaced by a gaggle of Zekes, Spits, and 190 A5s looking to rip into every higher-performing plane they see. Kill stealing will be at an all time high, and so will the whining. Everything that's near perk status, or that performs better than your ride, will be a target. An incentive to fight harder against that P-47D, but also a witch-hunt of sorts.
Believe me, the perk system may cause this degree of migrain. I just pray HTC can fix it before it gets out of hand.
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Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
"For yay did the sky darken, and split open and spew forth fire, and
through the smoke rode the Four Wurgers of the Apocalypse.
And on their canopies was tattooed the number of the Beast, and the
number was 190." Jedi, Verse Five, Capter Two, The Book of Dweeb
(http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6/htbin/custom1.jpg)
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LOL.. Hunt me. Kill me. Stock up on points.
*yawn*
Just another day in the fediddlein MA. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Would you rather we had no points.. no scores at all? (I would, but figure if I sit down to play poker; I'd better play and not argue about the rules)
Hang (still checkin tickets)
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I've always seen kill-stealing as the most non-existent problem there ever was.
I find it incomprehensible that people complain about it.
Whoever gets the kill gets the kill. They don't "belong" to anyone. For all I know, the guy I'm stealing the kill from is about to run out of ammo, or wep, or whatever.
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Hehhehheee.. Flak.. sounds like yer describing the food chain... in reverse. Pilot fish are really stalkin that damn shark... not hangin in trail lookin fer scraps. My; won't mister shark be pissed when he's on the menu fer a change.
Sounds like fun. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Pre-release whining about whining. I believe we reached a new level of efficiency. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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What Popeye said above (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) and more.....
I've never seen such a gaggle of whining feet stompers in my life. It's like you folks just KNOW the medicine is going to taste horrible, even though you've never had it before. A.G.W. had definately passed the crown.
-Westy
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I wasn't intending this as a whine. I was just pointing out a possible weakness, something HTC might not have thought about.
Hangtime,
You will never see me in a Perk Vehicle. I'm really not interested in them. I fly.
I've been flying Zeros and Bf109G-2s on the few chances I've had to fly this tour. I'm preparing to be one of the pilot fish hunting the shark. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
No complaints from me.
Sisu
-Karnak
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What Popeye said...
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A "Version 1.05 Feedback" Forum would certainly take alot of the new version speculation related, and whine posts (pre-and post realse) into a managable area, all the while keeping the General Forum still readable.
[This message has been edited by Creamo (edited 12-18-2000).]
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What the hell?? Creamo?? You ok??
A sane post... great MA flying.. (saw him pass up a chute to clear my six the other day) Somethins not right here.. I suspect foul play.
HEY THATS NOT CREAMO!! Somebody call the FDB's.. Creamo's meds ran out.. on in.. or somethin... mebbe Badger stole his computer!
<S!> Creamo. You run fer president; (or dog catcher) I'll vote fer yah! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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whiners keep it interesting.
nothing like having someone recognize
your kill on the open buffer.
sax
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I am really looking forward to hunting perk planes.
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Maybe folks should watch the taco gong commercial again. "Sir could u please try it before u mess with it".
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Perk stuff may be fun to ride in from time to time, but I honestly don't think they're gonna be that tough to kill.
My main ride, the <cough> F4U-C, is slower than half the planes in the MA, and turns worse than half the planes in the MA. Instead of being caught in 30 seconds, it's gonna take them 20 seconds. Instead of losing a 5 turn fight, it's gonna happen in 4. Not that big a deal, really.
Crap pilots in perk planes are still gonna be crap pilots... and the planes don't get ya killed, bad decisions do. People in perk planes will not be immune to bad decisions.
The only thing that's really gonna change with perk planes is yet one more reason to whine.
Er... and one other thing that will change. At the start of a new TOD, I really try to protect my score, to see how I can rate with the guys on the top of the board. After three days of this, I get extremely tense, then bored, then give it up. I suspect the same kinda thing will happen with being able to fly perk planes.
The pressure to keep that thing alive is gonna cause some people to fly around at 30k, engagaging at only the *most* favourable opportunity (read 1-2 fights an hour).
Nahh...not for me. When the time comes, I'm gonna have it fire-walled and be screaming along the deck at 500 feet with a big bellybutton grin on my face. Easy come, easy go.
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Ya know, one of the benefits of having a forced downtime like I have is getting things in perspective.
Dammit, the game is amusing. It's pure fun. It gets frustrating when you've played it too much or yer ego gets in the way.
I'll do what I do in real life; do my thing and let others do whatever they please. Just let their arguments be what they are and enjoy it my way.
Hope I get a new joystick soon so I can start killing again.
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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://www.geocities.com/nirfurian/stSanta.jpg)
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I cheer at the fact that there will be a reason to fly the early war aircraft!! There will be more zekes, more spitV's etc I think its a good thing.
And when my time finally comes to get in a D9, i'll find that gaggle chasin some other poor perked bugger and enjoy clearin his tail.
AKskurj
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I hope with all these new perks they will add in the bf-110g2, hurricane 2c/2d, lagg3, p-39, ki43, ki61 and p-40.
you know...
stuff thats tons of fun and historically important to ww2.
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I agree with Cit. More mid war before perk.
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f4f and fm2 also (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Lets say you do get a TigerII, will you have to drive it all the way back to the vbase in order to keep it ?
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ANY additional A/C makes this a better game, since the MA is kinda like disney world, its fun, but you don't want to camp out there for days on end because you end up f#@&^ing goofy, whereas the historical Scenarios, Check six events, etc. is where most of these online sims really rock.
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Nash,
Love Ya Man.
"Planes don't kill planes, people do"
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Milo
3./JG2
"Swager's Angels"
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...Or do it like Rats; Whole game is a frigging scenario... or at least I hope so (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Your heart is where my heart lies within the sim Nash! <S>