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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Morpheus on March 06, 2006, 08:25:52 PM
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I just picked up an 05 wrangler the other day and when i got it home I found that it had built in XM radio. I didnt notice the little antena thingy on the front fender.... So much for looking it over before i buy it.
Anyways, is XM worth whatever it is that you pay a month? What is the difference between Sirius and XM? I have no clue about either of these two services. My father got sirius because stern moved and he is obsessed with stern. He likes Sirius, I dont know anyone personaly that has XM so I dont know if i should get Sirius or just stick with this XM thing that I already have. Stern is not on XM though so I dont know... That kind of sucks.
Also, how in the world would I go about getting hooked up? I turned it on the other day, and just got two channels, 247 and Ch1. I guess those are just basic info channels or something... One had weather though. Its an Alpine Head unit, I cant remember what the model is, i will go out and check in a bit. I didnt get anything in regards to the head unit when I picked up the jeep friday so I know nothing about it.
Oh yeah... Another stupid question... Because it is infact an XM radio, am I stuck with XM unless or can I go to Sirius and stay with the current setup. Ie leaving the headunit in and everything as it is? lol probably a dumb question. I have no clue when it comes to this satalite radio junk. I wish stern didnt have to move.
EDIT: The model of the headunit is "CDA-9825" from Alpine.
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#1, go with Sirius. XM is not doing very well at the moment from some things Ive heard.
As far as your radio, it wont matter it has XM built in. The Sirius receiver transmits to a FM channel of your choosing. XM will run you less a month but, if you like Howard, it worth a few bucks more. The show is great now. I swore up and down I would never pay for radio. I drew my line in the sand. My buddy bought it and I caved in a week. It is so damn nice having such a variety of music with the frickn' commercials. You wont miss "terrestrial" radio for a second Morph. You can get a unit at a decent price now. I do recomend you get one with alot of presets. Youll use them all and them some. I went with the "Sportster" receiver. It has 10 presets plus you can but a boombox for it. You just pop it out of your cradle in the car and pop it in the boombox. Also you can get a home kit if you dont want the boombox and have a kick bellybutton stereo you'd rather use, but the boombox works in the same way, its just transmitting to whatever FM channel you decide on and then youll have something portabel too.
As far as your XM goes. Youll have to find out the XM ID # for your radio and then call XM to activate. It should have a menu you can scroll through on the radio to find the ID.
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XM units can't recieve Sirius and vice versa. XM music (I like hard rock/metal/classic rock) selection was crap when I heard it 2 years ago. Sirius was better at their launch, and I have had no problems with repeat music on Sirius.
It's up to you though, music, pretty much uninterrupted, for the travel to work or long car rides vs, as I remember from 2004, fairly generic FM radio (pop) songs on XM.
I'd recommend a trial month with both, you will pay for the service during that month - but you can find out which one you would like to pay for most.
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Yeah, its hard to live without the stern man. He is a living god.
The other day I was ridding somewhere with my father and he had sirius on. I never road in the car with him since we got it for his birthday for him... HOLLY COW do some of those channels have no bleeps or what?! LOL It is kinda nice to hear a song without it being bleeped to hell'n back. Stern is out of control I guess, my dad was saying... now that he is with Sirius.
I thought it would be nice to not have to install anything and just call up XM or whatever I have to do to get it activated.
Can I hook this sirius up to my PC if I want to? I got the Klipsch 5.1 speakers and that would be sweet to hear stern on lol. Like he's sitting right next to me!:eek:
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I have the exact same head unit in my Subie, Morpheus.
I use a portable XM radio; my car as a cradle, home has a cradle, and work has one as well and it makes for alot cheaper than buying 3 radios.
If you want tech and better reception in cities, go with XM. If you want Howard Stern for a couple years (and later when he leaves) and have a radio you don't want later, go Sirius.
I'm a little biased, but I've heard both companies (gf has Sirius) and checked out their backgrounds... its akin to comparing Apple to Microsoft, if not now, definitely when Howard Stern retires... he is really the only thing keeping Sirius's head above water.
XM has more channels, the same number of sats (XM just launched another and from what I've read, the Boeing made sats have better signals), alot more ground loopers, more channels, and the music/selection format is very debateable.
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Not sure about the PC Morph. I think you can download his show if you're a subscriber. If you wanted to mess with all that.
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With XM or Sirius you buy a detachable unit(which gets activated kind of like a cell phone) that is portable between they're company respective individual car units, stereo units, or receivers units.
If you have a XM antenna, you can't get Sirius unless you have a seperate antenna installed and vice versa.
It's based on satellite, but there are ground relays (Frequency Modulated) in most areas that receive cell phone coverage.
As far as censorhip goes, there is none. It's like cable, but not crappy basic, where they don't edit or censor the content you are paying for because you are paying for the service - which is up to the individual to purchase.
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I dont have any issues in and around DFW with mine Del. Maybe not the case elsewhere. I understood Sirius to be doing more than fine actually and that XM really dropped the ball not signing Stern. I have not read anything official either way though.
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XM is better Morph. The only thing Sirius has over it besides Stern are the NFL games, but XM has baseball. And it's only around $10 a month, less than you pay per to fight silly cartoon planes and hump Sniper's leg.
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Originally posted by NattyIced
XM units can't recieve Sirius and vice versa. XM music (I like hard rock/metal/classic rock) selection was crap when I heard it 2 years ago. Sirius was better at their launch, and I have had no problems with repeat music on Sirius.
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If its a FM reciever with XM built in, it will still recieve Sirius over the FM channels with a Sirius unit also installed.
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hhmmm Baseball? or Howard? Thats a tough one:D
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I had Sirius for 3 years, went to XM-- (Im over 16, so Stern doesn't really matter) However, the COMedy channel does--Sirius has 2: one adult, other is Jack Benny re-runs, etc. The adult one (the FUNNY one) has talky crap on EVERY day from 4pm to like 9pm... (Jim Bruer, and the Wise Guys --Soprano cast-offs) and it ISNT funny. (also, Sirius has a lunch-time guy on their comdey channel for like 2 hours every day, this ALSO limits actual comedy) On weekends, they have even less standup. XM has 2 adult, one Jack Benny-type, and NO talky crap. Music is close, talk stations are close, now that Sirius got Fox stuff back. Sirius has far better blues channel, IMO--XM's seems like elevator music. Sirius makes a BIG deal out of their dj's---though the music channels have no commercials, these people feel the need to blab like 2 minutes after every other song--drives me fluff'n nuts. I give slight edge to XM
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cute dig at stern. let the hijack begin. thanks. dick.
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for what its worth. sirius has three satelites you get better reception in the concrete canyons. xm has 2.
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Originally posted by JTs
for what its worth. sirius has three satelites you get better reception in the concrete canyons. xm has 2.
Wrong...
The bandwith on Sirius's 3 satellites still have less than the bandwith on XM's 2, and from what I read and XM may have launched another one recently (but I can't confirm it). Not to mention the ground loopers, which XM has many more of.
What does this mean? Better reception overall as well as being able to use the units farther into large buildings if you have a portable receiver like I do.
Btw, someone was mentioning XM's comedy stations, XM now has 4 I think.
Besides, Stern is really leaching Sirius... money spent on a single program takes away from the whole network overall. You'll see, once Stern is gone (and he already said he is looking past his Sirius days to do TV and movies) Sirius will be having really hard times.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
cute dig at stern. let the hijack begin. thanks. dick.
Pfffft...ONE sentence!...and only a fragment at that
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stern lover, somehow that figures, genetically driven also. this is good stuff right here. I have XM a friend has sirius there is no way I'd pay to put up with the sirius DJs and their never ending trivial commentary about almost every tune they play. I usually listen to 40, 46, 50 & 54 I get my comedy fix reading all the stuff here.
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Originally posted by Delirium
Wrong...
The bandwith on Sirius's 3 satellites still have less than the bandwith on XM's 2, and from what I read and XM may have launched another one recently (but I can't confirm it). Not to mention the ground loopers, which XM has many more of.
I actually don't believe that is true about the satellites having less bandwidth, but I can't find out much information on how powerful (that's the key point - not bandwidth) the Sirius satellites are. The XM satellites transmit at 10 megawatts.
XM's satellites are in geostationary orbit at the east and west coast above the US while Sirius' satellites are in geosynchronous orbits allowing each individual satellite to be over the US for 16 hours. They are also placed higher in their orbit to allow better coverage which is why there are less ground repeaters.
You can listen to Sirius on the web, which makes having a unit in your office pretty moot.
Of course, it's up to someone to purchase what they want. I don't listen to comedy or howard stern, but I listen to the rock stations on Sirius and I can't complain because it has loads of music and consantly updates with new music. When I did listen to XM which a friend had, it was a constant barrage of repeats.
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ha, stern is good, im not obsessed with him as some are... and i dont know i want to pay for a new service just to be able to hear him talk.
As for XM or Sirius, it looks like 6 of 1, have a dozen of the other here.
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Have XM and I think it's just dandy. Use XM also to downlink Wx to the Cirrus.
Never used Sirius.
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I have xm and like it... I hate commercials and that includes DJ's talking. sirus seems to feel that we need dj's to talk to us and be our friends.
stern is a crybaby fart joke. a month of stern in your life is like 6 seasons of sienfeld..... something that is worth doing but....enough for anyone.
I like "progressive country" or rockabilly and classic rock so xm works for me.
lazs
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I wasnt very pleased with stern after the crap he pulled durring the last election.
Thinking about it, I might just stick with what I got and give try XM. Its all there, I just have to figure out how to get that ID number.
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morph, i am kind of suprised the car didn't come with a trial of service for it... unless you bought it off some crack head car thief :p :lol
anyway, my dad in atl ga has XM it is neat to listen too for the 40's channel and stuff like that. personally i can not fathom paying for radio. yeah it was neat and all that, but not supremely impressive. (i am biased though ebcause we have probably the best morning radio possible on a local station... and i uas an mp3 player when i am not driving to work).
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Originally posted by NattyIced
They are also placed higher in their orbit to allow better coverage which is why there are less ground repeaters.
You can listen to Sirius on the web, which makes having a unit in your office pretty moot.
Prime example... I went to Boston and I never even lost reception because XM puts the money on ground loopers, heck, I never even lost reception in any of the tunnels in Boston.
Besides, I can listen to XM on the web too, I just prefer to have my portable receiver because I can not only listen to live stuff, but I have 5 hours of room to record stuff on my XM radio a well. Combine that with my portable having an internal FM transmitter and a remote control and it blows alot of the competition away.
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mustain... I just flat out can't stand commercials. That is reason enough to pay to avoid them. I don't watch any TV that I haven't recorded and not even much then Maybe 3 shows.... I watch DVD's on my TV.
The other thing is that I like... the pay for ones tell you (it is displayed) what you are listening to. Ever hear an old song that you can't recall who did it or what the title is? or something really off the wall that you would like to know the name and artist of? That is worth a lot to me too.
lazs
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XM weather on my Garmin 396 makes it a given as to where I get my music.
It also comes loaded on GM vehicles.
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I'm pretty sure that both XM and Sirus can be streamed via the internet for listening at home/office.
most of the guys here at work use one or the other.
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the reason I pay for radio is because I refuse to listen to commercials. it's worth $7 a month for that alone. I'd pay $14 a month if I never had to listen to my mother in law.
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Who care about the radio! What kinda wrangler?
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its a 05 wrangler. always wanted one. i have had fast cars from the start and am tired of the headaches.. cops, cost to keep running, gas.. that come with having loud, fast noticable cars.
now i'll just putt around in a jeep and and stay out of trouble. maybe run something over here or there.
http://www.furballunderground.com/blueknights_pictures/files/1/IMG_0567.JPG
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Originally posted by Morpheus
its a 05 wrangler. always wanted one. i have had fast cars from the start and am tired of the headaches.. cops, cost to keep running, gas.. that come with having loud, fast noticable cars.
now i'll just putt around in a jeep and and stay out of trouble. maybe run something over here or there.
http://www.furballunderground.com/blueknights_pictures/files/1/IMG_0567.JPG
Looks like a Sahara. http://www.quadratec.com is your friend.
Karaya
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I would try both and make a decision. Personally I prefer XM over Sirius. I like the conservative talk shows better on XM, hockey, and Opie and Anthony dominate Howard Stern. Stern just does not have the desire imo to do his show. His dog and pony show is getting quite old plus he’s off on Fridays now after stating less than six months ago that he’s never gonna work less than 5 days a week – he owes it to his fans. Hope his fans enjoy “Best of”s on Fridays.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Looks like a Sahara. http://www.quadratec.com is your friend.
Karaya
its a sport.
im not going to do much to this i dont think. Maybe a small lift, some different rims and bigger tires for the summer and keep the ones in the pic for winter beaters.
i really want to do a tiny old willys up someday soon.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
its a sport.
im not going to do much to this i dont think. Maybe a small lift, some different rims and bigger tires for the summer and keep the ones in the pic for winter beaters.
i really want to do a tiny old willys up someday soon.
Let me know, I'm a fountain of knowledge on old jeeps. I don't even own one. If you DO lift it, I recommend Teraflex, with Deutsche Tech shocks.
Either way, sweet ride Morph! <>
Karaya
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XM...love it.....wouldnt be without it.
PS...Stern is a has been....LOL.....
O & A....SPREAD THE VIRUS!!!!!!:aok
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Let me know, I'm a fountain of knowledge on old jeeps. I don't even own one. If you DO lift it, I recommend Teraflex, with Deutsche Tech shocks.
Either way, sweet ride Morph! <>
Karaya
going to do a 4 inch lift with 33's and go from there.
i just want warm air to hurry up and get here so i can take the top down. I had it down today when i went out for lunch. 50 degrees is kinda chilly on the highway. :D
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Morph,
Check out the link in my signature. I do tons of work on jeeps with guys in our club....the last endeavor I did was to install a ford 8.8 with 4.10 gears on my 93 YJ.
As far as lifts go....I am a GIGANTIC fan of the Rubicon Express Extreme duty kits! IMO they are outstanding and I chose them over any others including the teraflex kits.
:D
PS the DT shocks are great....I use em on mine!
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Heya gutt,
my sisters boyfriend is looking to do an 8.8 after talking him out of a ford 9''. 9's are sweet rears and wont break, but they take a ton of power to spin as you know... And he's just got a 289 out of a mustang coupe I had in his YJ that we tossed in there last summer. i told him we could build an almost bomb proof 8.8.
Did you buy yours? Or take one and cut it? i have one left over from a fox body mustang I had... And I know how strong the 8.8's are.