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Title: one week of x52
Post by: jaxxo on March 07, 2006, 07:44:53 AM

well my first hotas and Im having mixed feelings..immersion is great and control is way better than logicrap..the twisty rudder is completely useless...i also have to relearn simple things that were just second nature with the keyboard..all in all im happy with it despite my .5 kill to death lol.. now i just wanna by a ch stick even worse though. anyone have pedals they wanna sell? i smashed mine in the parking lot after they spiked too bad :P

Title: one week of x52
Post by: FiLtH on March 07, 2006, 07:56:33 AM

WHy were you playing in the parking lot? :P

Title: one week of x52
Post by: Morpheus on March 07, 2006, 08:04:28 AM

hey, will CH analog peds work with X52? Max gave me a set but I have USB's, so if they will work u can have em.

add peds into the mix and things will really get interesting.. It took me about a month to go from twist stick to ch hotas and really get use to it all.

Title: Re: one week of x52
Post by: Max on March 07, 2006, 08:25:56 AM

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Originally posted by jaxxo
the twisty rudder is completely useless...

What seems to be the problem? Is this your 1st experience with a twist handle? I'm talking "flight gear" Jaxxo :rofl

Title: one week of x52
Post by: WxMan on March 07, 2006, 09:02:23 AM

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hey, will CH analog peds work with X52?

If you have an old  stick that will plug into the gameport you can use the analog CH pedals for rudder while using the USB X52 for everything else.

It's the setup I'm using now.

Title: one week of x52
Post by: Mr No Name on March 07, 2006, 09:39:23 AM

you cannot mix gameport and USB... you can NOT do this.

Title: one week of x52
Post by: RTSigma on March 07, 2006, 09:44:44 AM

I use CH Pro Pedals USB with my X52 and it works wonderfully.

Title: one week of x52
Post by: Krusty on March 07, 2006, 02:10:50 PM

gameport is separate from USB. It's like saying "You cant mix PS2 and USB!" -- which isn't true. You can have something on each plug, and each will act as it should (that is, each will act separately, but correctly).

P.S. If you had rudder pedals and you TRASHED them, you don't deserve any more! Ever again!! (instead, as punishment, you must buy me some pedals and watch as I cherish them for all eternity).

Title: Re: one week of x52
Post by: dedalos on March 07, 2006, 03:26:12 PM

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Originally posted by jaxxo
..all in all im happy with it despite my .5 kill to death lol..

WOW :O  WTG Jaxxo.  100% improvement in 1 week!!!!11


If only HUB could improve like that

Title: Re: Re: one week of x52
Post by: wetrat on March 07, 2006, 03:54:46 PM

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Originally posted by dedalos
WOW :O  WTG Jaxxo.  100% improvement in 1 week!!!!11


If only HUB could improve like that

but hub is ranked #8... he's almost as good as shawk now :eek: :eek:

Title: one week of x52
Post by: Jebus on March 07, 2006, 03:56:18 PM

I have had my x52 for almost a week, and Jaxxo your right the twist stick is useless.  Will be buying pedals once my budget allows.  

The other thing i dont like is how loose the stick is.  You cant get a good feel for the airplane.  JB22 told me to put pennies between the spring and the stick.  It seemed to tighten up the stick nicely!:aok

Title: one week of x52
Post by: jaxxo on March 07, 2006, 07:21:45 PM

cool thanx for the tip..btw my pedals were 6 years old and i had them in combo with logicrap  trashed them both...

Title: one week of x52
Post by: eilif on March 08, 2006, 04:36:29 AM

if you use a game port to usb adaptor you can use the pedals by themselves and plug them into a different port, it will show up in control panel as a different joystick, thats how my adaptor works at least, its got 3 settings, if it doesnt work, plug a game port stick into the pedals and it should pop up. The Usb adaptor really smoothes things out too. Having an extra joystick handy can be usefull for misc commands. I have 4 sticks plugged in and responding in the control panel for the home made throttle system. Unfortunately they have some issues running together in ah, but in "another sim" it works great.

Title: one week of x52
Post by: wrag on March 08, 2006, 04:05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Mr No Name
you cannot mix gameport and USB... you can NOT do this.

How odd........ cause I am.  Using a F16 fighterstick and prothrottle USB with a old set of peds hooked to my old F16fighterstick analog.

Works fine.  Even got it working in IL2.

Someone said buy a gameport/USB converter from Radio Shack.  I've looked for the converter but they seem to be always out of stock :(

Title: one week of x52
Post by: wetrat on March 08, 2006, 04:07:20 PM

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Originally posted by wrag
Someone said buy a gameport/USB converter from Radio Shack.  I've looked for the converter but they seem to be always out of stock :(

You should grab that kind of stuff off ebay

Title: one week of x52
Post by: Max on March 08, 2006, 05:07:03 PM

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Originally posted by wrag
How odd........ cause I am.  Using a F16 fighterstick and prothrottle USB with a old set of peds hooked to my old F16fighterstick analog.

Works fine.  Even got it working in IL2.

Someone said buy a gameport/USB converter from Radio Shack.  I've looked for the converter but they seem to be always out of stock :(

Analog peds ARE compatable with a USB stick using the forementioned gameport/USB converter. I've used 'em both. They will show as 2 seperate devices in the XP control panel >Gaming device window.

Title: one week of x52
Post by: Morpheus on March 08, 2006, 05:58:21 PM

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Originally posted by Mr No Name
you cannot mix gameport and USB... you can NOT do this.

Game Port to USB addapter, ace.

Title: one week of x52
Post by: AWRaid on March 08, 2006, 07:46:51 PM

CH products all the way

Title: OK?
Post by: Gatr on March 08, 2006, 08:46:27 PM

You experts???
Tell me why I need pedals...
Really?
Gatr

Title: one week of x52
Post by: ramzey on March 08, 2006, 09:36:17 PM

you can paint them pink and they gonna look cool:aok

Title: one week of x52
Post by: Goth on March 08, 2006, 10:39:44 PM

First night with x52 tonight. God it was rough after 12 yrs of MS, but gonna stick with it. I am having more of a hard time with comfort (where to set the stick) than anything else. It sits higher and I'm totally not used to the HOTAS. Stick with it jaxxo...it felt good ( once I got drunk), and I think I can adapt readily once I install something to set it on.

Title: one week of x52
Post by: jaxxo on March 08, 2006, 10:51:50 PM

ill be fine in a few weeks...once i get peds ill be back to normal or better hopefully..getting vulched but taking 2 or 3 with me :)

Title: one week of x52
Post by: skernsk on March 09, 2006, 09:06:44 AM

Jaxxo check PM's

Title: Re: OK?
Post by: Airscrew on March 09, 2006, 10:48:58 AM

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Originally posted by Gatr
You experts???
Tell me why I need pedals...
Really?
Gatr

Gatr, You dont NEED rudder pedals, BUT...
I flew for 3 years with out them, used the keyboard at first then the Afterburner stick was a twisty stick, but it was diffult for me to make lead turns and fire at the same time.  got the X45 and used the rocker on the throttle, and that was fine, except for those occasions I lost a wing tip and I needed to crank hard on the rudder and airelons to keep the plane level.  One hand on the throttle/rudder and one on the stick, made it kind of hard to hit buttons to lower flaps and gears and such.  
I got lucky at the last con and won my CH USB pedals.   Its took a little while to get used to but now I can use my feet and it frees up my hand to do other tasks while flying.  Also my turns and skids are better coordinated and I dont even have to think about it.   I would be very upset if i couldnt use my rudder pedals, I kinda depend on them now.

Title: HUMMM
Post by: Gatr on March 09, 2006, 10:57:17 AM

So ahhh I am using the MS twistie... Have been for may years...
Why or how are the pedals better....
Thanks
Gatr

Title: Re: HUMMM
Post by: Max on March 09, 2006, 11:17:18 AM

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Originally posted by Gatr
So ahhh I am using the MS twistie... Have been for may years...
Why or how are the pedals better....
Thanks
Gatr

It's like ice cream - some like chocolate; others vanilla. After years using a twist stick I tried peds. After 6 months+ of peds I went back to the twisty.