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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gunslinger on March 07, 2006, 09:19:01 AM
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This is a cross post from my AAO clan. This kid is on his XBOX live and forgets to mute his mic while demanding his mom bring him a drink.
CAUTION EXPLICIT LANGUAGE NSFW OR AROUND SMALL CHILDREN
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7153152098207965240
if this were my kid I'd beat his but with my belt and then take away his sunlight indefinatly.
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Is this Mike Teevee from Charlie & the Chocolate Factory???
The belt slapping would indeed be appropriate, but it would be even better to wreck the XBOX with a hammer in front of him, then go dump it in a trash can, no matter what it cost in the first place.
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Originally posted by deSelys
Is this Mike Teevee from Charlie & the Chocolate Factory???
The belt slapping would indeed be appropriate, but it would be even better to wreck the XBOX with a hammer in front of him, then go dump it in a trash can, no matter what it cost in the first place.
Naw even better, I'd break out the hole saw kit and convert it into a really nice cup holder next to my PC.
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tsss...he's just following classes to be able to post here in a few years ;)
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If I caught my kids talking to their mother like that they wouldn't be able to sit down for a week afterwards.
If "I" had ever talked to my mother, or step mother, like that I don't think I'd be typing this right now.
What a disrespectful little ****.
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He should be introduced to the german kid who was re-engineering his keyboard while patiently waiting for a connection...
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Originally posted by deSelys
He should be introduced to the german kid who was re-engineering his keyboard while patiently waiting for a connection...
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Had that been my kid he would have been picking up peices of xbox off the driveway and drinking his chocolate milk standing up for a week.
shamus
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If he had been my kid I would have cut off his head with a sword and feed his corpse to pigs.
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First thing wrong with that is if thats a nine year old then why does he have that type of game along with Xbox Live access.
Secondly if my wife was to get talked to like that while my son was playing one of our sports games on the Xbox; it would be tossed out. Then he would get his butt worn out. Then when I got home if the Xbox was not destroyed I would take care of that then wear his butt out again.
I would have been lucky to still be alive if I would have spoken to any adult that way.
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Remember - it's the Video Game's fault - not the parent. :D
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:O
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Its all about priorities. I mean, c'mon. What do we teach our kids to prepare them for life in the workplace:
1) Do your job because others are counting on you.
2) Cooperate to achieve a higher goal.
3) Focus on your job. Nothing else is as important as getting the job done right the first time.
4) Concentrate, perform, adjust, adapt, achieve.
5) If you fail, your team fails, and failure is not an option.
How many times did the kid implore his mom to stop interfering with what he was doing? I quote:
"You're messing me up! Stop it! You're messing me up!"
"I have to have it up loud! I have to!"
"Mom! This is important! You're messing me up!"
The kid was simply preparing himself for the work environment, where immediate actions matter and the unemployment line is only a quarterly result away.
Given this context, just how important was bedtime? How many of you have stayed up late to study for a big test, or finish up a report, or complete a job to meet a deadline? Which was more important - getting those 8 hours of rest or achieving your goal?
But his mom probably wouldn't understand those things, because her priority was simply to attend to his physical growth, not his mental conditioning.
What she saw as a simple game was something much more complex. It was an exercise to prepare the boy for college, and his future in the workplace.
Funny that he would request chocolate milk instead of Mountain Dew. Chocolate milk has some nutritional content and would probably knock that kid out cold inside of an hour. Mountain Dew would fuel his addiction for a good 3 hours.
Now shut up and bring me a Red Bull!
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eric cartman.
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time to get out the wooden paddle again...
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I want some mother****in' chocolate milk!
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Originally posted by Shamus
Had that been my kid he would have been picking up peices of xbox off the driveway and drinking his chocolate milk standing up for a week.
shamus
Screw the pieces in the driveway... I'll make the kid go with me to the pawn shop so they can watch me sell the box. Be damned if I'm just gonna smash it in the driveway when I can get some beer money for it =)
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"That's BULL****!"
:rofl
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That kid is a lost cause. I wont say it..but I can think to myself what Id like to see happen to him.
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Reminds me of megadud
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Aside from the fact that the little **** should get a severe beating, like i used to when i acted like a moron, the video itself was pretty funny.
Watching the virtual soldiers mouth move with that voice was classic.:lol
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Originally posted by Speed55
... the video itself was pretty funny.
Watching the virtual soldiers mouth move with that voice was classic.:lol
Yeah, I'll admit, that part was classic! :rofl
It pretty much made it worth sitting through the entire tirade.
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Man, I don't even know where to start.........
The clip was almost funny, til you realize this little runt is not gonna change, not til life smacks him hard in the face. And if what I saw is typical for his "mom" and her behavior, even that won't work. She will be hysterical with the need to keep him from learning anything.
First, as a parent, he would have been told to get off the XBox ONE time, then I would have walked over and hit the power button myself. No arguing, no yelling at him, no bargaining.
Second, he would have been given about 15 seconds to make up his mind whether he wanted to retain the game console for future use, or have me take it and lock it up for a minimum of two weeks.
I don't tolerate backtalk from my son, never have, never will. I don't yell at him like she did either. Sadly, what we all witnessed is/was the result of his upbringing.....you can bet your butt he is talked to that way, and it is a learned behavior.
When I first watched the clip, I was too busy trying to sort out everything that was going on........second and third times, I turned off the monitor and just listened, and got way more out of it. Seeing the stuff happening on the screen can be distracting.
Yeah, his little butt would be the focal point of an attitude adjustment. If he were lucky, my handprints would be fading when or IF he made it to graduation from high school.
I see one of my son's friends act that way alot, and his parents give in and cater to him, just like the mom in the clip. Makes me sick, but the root of his problem, much like our little online performer, is his parents. He is just a result of their lack of parenting skills and a fundamental lack of respect for anyone other than himself........
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eddiek hit it right on the head. That kid is the result of a lack of parenting and it will escalate as he gets older. He'll then be someone elses problem as he decides to take out his issues on people outside of his house. I won't say home as that structure is merely shelter to warehouse this brats butt.
There obviously has been no attempt to instill a sense of discipline (don't confuse discipline with punishment they are not the same) in this kid and it may well be too late to "salvage" this kid.
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I'm genuinely curious, how would those of you who think what he did was wrong explain to him why his behavior and language are wrong?
- SEAGOON
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Why? you are trying to solve your own kid's behavior?:p
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The sounds like he is about 10 years old, give him some time.. lol.
He'll get out of the house, talk like that to someone, and get his two front teeth punched out. I bet he treats other people quite differently after that happens.
Poor mother, I bet the little **** hasn't his puberty yet either, shes got plenty more comin.:rolleyes:
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Why SG, do you think that without a bible to refer to, notions like respecting, obeying to and being polite with his parents are impossible to explain... or enforce?
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Seagoon,
In English, the same way I'd be telling him he's grounded, his xbox is gone for a month minimum and any further use of that kind of language towards his mother would be grounds for additional punishment. This would be explained before, after and possibly during the application of my hand accross his bottom. That way he knows before the stimuli, what he did to deserve it and why it was applied as well as after the stimuli. Further lessons as to the behavior expected towards his mother, myself and any other adult would be provided on an as needed basis.
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Seagoon,
Are you looking for perfect theoretical way to explain why what he did was wrong?
Or a real world honest opinion?
I've voiced mine. That child's mother could talk til she is blue in the face about why what he did was wrong, but he learned that behavior somewhere......wanna guess where?
So.....what good would it do to explain it to him, when he is more than likely exhibiting behavior he learned there at home, from his parent(s). That would be like a drunk telling a kid not to drink, a sailor telling a kid not to swear, a thief telling a child not to steal.....while the whole time the child is seeing this authority figure do EXACTLY what he is being told NOT to do.
I can tell you what works in my own home, but your and others' mileage may vary.
I'm not saying that child is beyond help, cause I worked with teens who had dual diagnoses of anti-social behaviors and drug dependence for a few years, and there IS help out there. But fixing the child does not mean you fixed the problem.
That MOTHER needs help, as well as the child, and lots of it.
She got right down on that child's level and argued with him, when he needed her to be his parent and take some control of the situation.
If you want to discuss this privately, PM me or email me.
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Hi All,
Thanks for the replies. Actually, I probably shouldn't have asked the question as I sense it's not a conversation that is going to go anywhere productive.
The reason I asked is that generally speaking, on this board, whenever questions of societal ethics come up there are generally strong assertions made that all people are autonomous, and that no one elses "values" can or should be forced on others. In other words, most people begin to loudly proclaim, "you're not the boss of me" and "don't try to legislate your morals" and "if it doesn't physically hurt another walking talking human, I should be allowed to do and say what I want."
However, when this 9 year old essentially asserted his own autonomy and his supposed "rights" to do and say whatever he wanted, everyone found it repugnant and immediately began saying they would not tolerate such behavior in their own house. In other words, there seems to be an arbitrariness here along the lines of Kid, you can't do that in my house, however I can do that as though his behavior was only repugnant because he is nine, but in an adult it is laudible. Children who are more intuitive than we give them credit for, tend to see the the underlying hypocrisy in that situation. Their subconscious reasoning generally follows this pattern: If you simply don't like my behavior or speech because its me, and not you doing it, then your system is arbitrary, dictatorial, and unfair and I'm going to rebel whenever and however I can.
Now, since it's not fair to ask a question I wouldn't be willing to answer, I would explain to him why he is not allowed to act that way in the following outline:
1) You are not autonomous or in charge: Like everyone else in the household you are under authority. Dad is the head of the household but even he is under the rule of the magistrate and must obey his lawful commands. Children are under the authority of their parents, and every member of that household is subject to the rule of God.
2) Every member of the household, including you, is also subject to an absolute system of ethics. This is the Moral Law of God summarized in the Ten Commandments. It requires, for instance, that we all honor and obey our parents. It requires that we all treat one another with love and respect. It requires that we all abstain from using foul and blasphemous language. It also requires that we not make any thing like an Xbox into an idol that we worship and consider more important than our obligations to God and Man.
3) There are blessings that come with obedience, and curses that come from disobedience, and you have chosen the curses that come with disobedience. This will take the form of punishment, and certainly the removal of your idol.
- SEAGOON
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Originally posted by Seagoon
1) You are not autonomous or in charge: Like everyone else in the household you are under authority. Dad is the head of the household but even he is under the rule of the magistrate and must obey his lawful commands. Children are under the authority of their parents, and every member of that household is subject to the rule of God.
2) Every member of the household, including you, is also subject to an absolute system of ethics. This is the Moral Law of God summarized in the Ten Commandments. It requires, for instance, that we all honor and obey our parents. It requires that we all treat one another with love and respect. It requires that we all abstain from using foul and blasphemous language. It also requires that we not make any thing like an Xbox into an idol that we worship and consider more important than our obligations to God and Man.
3) There are blessings that come with obedience, and curses that come from disobedience, and you have chosen the curses that come with disobedience. This will take the form of punishment, and certainly the removal of your idol.
- SEAGOON
:aok I wished my old man subscribed a little more to that theory. His answer would have been "Talk to the Hand" only it's not the Hip-Hop version of "Talk to the Hand." It's his cinder block hand coming across the side of my melon at about 50mph - hehe.
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Originally posted by Seagoon
I'm genuinely curious, how would those of you who think what he did was wrong explain to him why his behavior and language are wrong?
- SEAGOON
No offence, but the question is moot. It's way to late for that kid.
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I'm shocked...just shocked... :O so many people here just sooo eager to inflict pain and injury on this misunderstood tyke. So eager to utterly crush him and forever ruin his chances for normal development in society. Yes, of course it's the GAME'S fault he is acting out this way.
The citizens of The People's Republic of Berkley Kalifornia would be just soooo dismayed..... be crying in their lattes and mineral water.... :cry
'Course, Iraqi vets like me (mentally and socially disturbed individuals that we are) would just shoot him in the neck. :aok