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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: StarOfAfrica2 on March 08, 2006, 12:11:48 PM
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Test fire. Right. More like "flexing" if you ask me. The only reason they do this crap is because they know we dont have enough free muscle to worry them.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1700471
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Test fire. Right. More like "flexing" if you ask me. The only reason they do this crap is because they know we dont have enough free muscle to worry them.
You never know - Bushler might want to fight a war on two fronts? Joke aside - I'm more worried about Iran than Kim Jong Il and his commies but your are right about lack of muscle.
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2 fronts? thats childsplay.. he is on 2 fronts already.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
2 fronts? thats childsplay.. he is on 2 fronts already.
And that only accounts for 27% of our troops. ;) In 2004, 387,920 troops were stationed on foreign soil. This figure is out of a total of 1,434,377 personnel. Deployments have ranged from a high of 1,082,777 troops in 1968 to a low of 206,002 in 1999. (Figures are between 1950 and 2004)
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then iran and Nk would be easy :)
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We tried N. Korea once. It wasnt that easy. I doubt it's gotten easier.
Couple bad things could happen.
1. Bush could decide he doesnt like N. Korea flipping us the bird and does something about it while we are still committed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
2. Japan could get tired of waiting for the rest us to keep our promises to control N. Koreaand gain enough support to re-write their constitution and take action themselves. You want to see a real sh**-storm? You think the arabs are p***ed at us for being n Iraq? Wait till you see how the Asian world would react to Japan attacking a nother country.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
then iran and Nk would be easy :)
Personally, I think the Pentagon looks at NK as "Asian problem, they'll call us when they need us".
I think they're also sitting back watching the world get worked up over Iran, but won't go in there alone. Europe probably WISHES we'd go in there alone, that way they can profit on the sideline and point at us as being bad guys while we dismantle the threat...but I believe we'll just sit on the sideline militarily until someone more countries come and joins us.
Both good moves IMO.
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I think we should have the Japanese test our new ABM's.
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NK is China's problem, let them take care of it.
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SoA2, your "bad things" are not likely for No. 1, and fantasy for the second part of No. 2.
Sure, Japan will most likely change its constitution, since it has ignored Article 9 for the past 20 years, anyway. Its pretty hard to have the 4th largest military budget in the world and still say you don't have a military - with a straight face, at least.
Every country tests its weapons. Me thinks thou art making mountains.
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I think he's just letting us know it's time to send more money.
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Originally posted by Rolex
SoA2, your "bad things" are not likely for No. 1, and fantasy for the second part of No. 2.
Sure, Japan will most likely change its constitution, since it has ignored Article 9 for the past 20 years, anyway. Its pretty hard to have the 4th largest military budget in the world and still say you don't have a military - with a straight face, at least.
Every country tests its weapons. Me thinks thou art making mountains.
;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Personally, I think the Pentagon looks at NK as "Asian problem, they'll call us when they need us".
I think they're also sitting back watching the world get worked up over Iran, but won't go in there alone. Europe probably WISHES we'd go in there alone, that way they can profit on the sideline and point at us as being bad guys while we dismantle the threat...but I believe we'll just sit on the sideline militarily until someone more countries come and joins us.
Both good moves IMO.
Why exactly should Europe care what North Korea does?
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
We tried N. Korea once. It wasnt that easy. I doubt it's gotten easier.
Couple bad things could happen.
1. Bush could decide he doesnt like N. Korea flipping us the bird and does something about it while we are still committed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
2. Japan could get tired of waiting for the rest us to keep our promises to control N. Koreaand gain enough support to re-write their constitution and take action themselves. You want to see a real sh**-storm? You think the arabs are p***ed at us for being n Iraq? Wait till you see how the Asian world would react to Japan attacking a nother country.
Actually we kicked the North Korean's butt...it was the hundreds of
thousands of Chinese that forced the stalemate.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Why exactly should Europe care what North Korea does?
It gives them a golden opportunity to take cheap shots at US foreign
policy? :D
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How ironic, someone taking a cheap shot about cheap chots. There are already more than enough opportunities for foreign policy good shots.
A little reflection into why these confrontations are being inflamed would be a good first step toward having a foreign policy that was consistent, rational and above cheap (or good) shots.
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You know, Sandy, I think everyone has not only an interest, but a responsibility, to be concerned about proliferation of nuclear material and weapon technology, materials, components and machinery used to construct and deliver them.
In the eyes of many nations or groups, there is no quicker way to earn fear, masquarading as respect, from larger countries. Entry into the ultimate gentlemen's club that lets them walk and talk with a swagger and bask in the glow of silence as others listen to them, instead of dictate terms to them.
I don't think having more members in the club is good for the club, or good for the vast majority of non-members. The members should be doing more to reduce the number of members and close the club down completely, not blessing non-signers of the non-proliferation treaty with trade deals and polite respectablity.
The personalities and priorities of people who govern the club nations can change in a heartbeat. We're seeing more and more emotional rhetoric and domestic political posturing by 'so-called' leaders to secure their power - fanning the flames of fear to their constituents.
I don't think anything good is going to come from this. There are just too many people trying to hold on to power, and too many diverse peoples with long-held feelings of perceived (true or false doesn't matter) wrongs against them itching for a good fight, thinking that is leadership and their legacy.
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Originally posted by Rolex
The members should be doing more to reduce the number of members and close the club down completely, not blessing non-signers of the non-proliferation treaty with trade deals and polite respectablity.
Rolex, I smell curry... Bush's trip to the far east?
Bush promised to provide India with US nuclear tech, which is potentially far more destabilizing to the region than the envy or angst that would develop amongst India's neighbours from a close US/India buddy/buddy relationship based on trade. I'll bet there's some gnashing of teeth in Pakistan, and I expect China wouldn't be too thrilled either since they are the target, and the ultimate reason for Bush's benevolence to India.
Another thing that seems apparent is that the non proliferation treaty isn't worth the paper it's written on.
Excel
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Originally posted by Sandman
Why exactly should Europe care what North Korea does?
I didn't say that Europe would care about NK. When I said "the Pentagon looks at NK as "Asian problem, they'll call us when they need us" I meant Japan, South Korea, Russia, China, Malaysia, etc.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
I think we should have the Japanese test our new ABM's.
Actually .............. funny enough, they ARE testing them. Only "our" new ABMs are designed by ......... the Japanese. Yesterday a joint US and Japanese ABM system was successfully tested off the island of Kaua'i.
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Actually .............. funny enough, they ARE testing them. Only "our" new ABMs are designed by ......... the Japanese. Yesterday a joint US and Japanese ABM system was successfully tested off the island of Kaua'i.
Yup. I'm psycic. I did a kitty litter toss yesterday, I can read the future from how the nuggets disport themselves.
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Originally posted by Rolex
I don't think having more members in the club is good for the club, or good for the vast majority of non-members. The members should be doing more to reduce the number of members and close the club down completely, not blessing non-signers of the non-proliferation treaty with trade deals and polite respectablity.
Bingo.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Bingo.
Seconded :aok