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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Kaw1000 on March 09, 2006, 08:49:58 AM
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Watch The body parts fly!!!!
http://media.putfile.com/afganc130
As the story goes, some Marines were pinned down in a building in a Fallujah
neighborhood. Terrorists throughout the city heard about it and were rushing
to the area to try to take the Marines out. The Marines called in air
support and the first responders were Air Force F-16's.
This video shows a group of guerrillas rounding a corner onto the street
leading to the Marines. The F-16's altitude appears in the upper right
corner. In the lower right corner is the countdown until the bombs impact.
The crosshairs in the middle indicate where the pilot is directing the laser
spot to guide the bombs.
The number just to the right of the crosshairs is the length of one of the
arms of the crosshairs on the ground in meters. The bombs are two 500lb
laser guidedbombs. Anyone standing unprotected within a quarter mile of
their impact is killed instantly. The total casualty count from this one
strike was 48. No Marines were killed
heres the video......http://media.putfile.com/F16--over--Fallujah--CAS
and 1 more..........http://media.putfile.com/Dontbringrifle2tankbattle
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I do believe this kinda stuff is frowned upon here (I personally do not disapprove of the content politically). I do think it is not appropriate though for some of the younger players who surf this forum.
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Welcome to 2003
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Originally posted by EN4CER
I do believe this kinda stuff is frowned upon here (I personally do not disapprove of the content politically). I do think it is not appropriate though for some of the younger players who surf this forum.
Most of the News these days is inappropriate for children...
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Incredible how life is insignificant in war...
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Originally posted by EN4CER
I do believe this kinda stuff is frowned upon here (I personally do not disapprove of the content politically). I do think it is not appropriate though for some of the younger players who surf this forum.
ty Mr Mod.
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Still my favorite video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2184649266159259417&q=iraq
US Marine Cobra pilots, dead bad guys, Pulp Fiction and rock music.
Anyone who wants a hard copy to DL & keep
I saw this is Dis ch, this was footage of a C-130 blowing the living fece out of a high level meeting of "important" A-holes... who all met their maker.
The part that brings a tear to my eye it that those poor mooks never once heard the orbiting C-130.... all they know is death started to rain upon them.
It was released, apparently, to show how concerned we allegedly are about respecting mosks, "See we can kill 30 guys and not damage your mosk"..."go ahead and pray around the craters, body parts and death stench.."
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Originally posted by EN4CER
I do believe this kinda stuff is frowned upon here (I personally do not disapprove of the content politically). I do think it is not appropriate though for some of the younger players who surf this forum.
You got to remmber they brought it upon themselves.Ater all they STARTED IT.Remember these?
http://www.pianoladynancy.com/recovery_usscole.htm
(http://www.september11news.com/111wtcreutersitaly.jpg)
(http://www.september11news.com/WTCPhotoSequenceReuters.jpg)
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Originally posted by gear
You got to remmber they brought it upon themselves.Ater all they STARTED IT.Remember this?
I'm not disagreeing with the video's he's posting at a political level. I don't think it's suitable for the general audience here which at times will include some children. And there is Rule #7 in forum posts.
7- Members should remember this board is aimed at a general audience. Posting pornographic or generally offensive text, images, links, etc. will not be tolerated. This includes attempts to bypass the profanity filter.
And I have not forgotten - sad many in this country have.
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I too agree it's sad that alot of people have chosen not to remember the attacks upon our citizens.But the younger generation needs to be aware of why so many have give thier lives for.It's not some piontless war,they fight over there so we don't have to fight them over here.
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EN4CER... Do you think your name gives you the right to be frickin self appointed Mod?
If you dont like a freakin thread... dont read it. Put a sock in it and move on. There is a reason skuzzy is admin.
Personaly, watching those towers get knocked down first hand, losing friends... these films bring a smile to my face.
Retribution.
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[SIZE=100]IN[/SIZE] Oh and by the way skuzzy is going to give you such a pinch!
oh ya allmost forgot [SIZE=10]NO SOUP FOR YOU!![/SIZE]
p.s. love the vids
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Originally posted by icemaw
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god darn it, you bloody beat me to it!!!
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Originally posted by Morpheus
EN4CER... Do you think your name gives you the right to be frickin self appointed Mod?
If you dont like a freakin thread... dont read it. Put a sock in it and move on. There is a reason skuzzy is admin.
Personaly, watching those towers get knocked down first hand, losing friends... these films bring a smile to my face.
Retribution.
:aok :aok :aok
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Originally posted by Pooface
god darn it, you bloody beat me to it!!!
HAHA ttthhhpppttt!!!
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Originally posted by Morpheus
EN4CER... Do you think your name gives you the right to be frickin self appointed Mod?
If you dont like a freakin thread... dont read it. Put a sock in it and move on. There is a reason skuzzy is admin.
Personaly, watching those towers get knocked down first hand, losing friends... these films bring a smile to my face.
Retribution.
Heres the list Morpheous and with all due respect.
1. I tried to post material like this when I was a newbie to these forums and got em shoved up my rear end by the liberals here.
"Uh... You're new here, so you probably aren't aware that snuff films are considered to be in poor taste." Quote from Airhead
"as kewl as that video is to me you might want delete it out of your post. That is EXACTLY the kind of thing that skuzzy does not want on this board."
Quote from Gunslinger
Search my post - "Poor Poor Terrorist" in the O'Club.
2. The films bring smile to my face too - I wish the Middle East was bombed into nothing but a $#%@$ parking lot!
3. Do you have kids - I do - I don't think this type of material is suitable for them at all and they do surf here. Do you think this material is suitable for kids? (Refering to the war videos - the rifle vs tank).
4. I lost two friends in the Towers (I could barely play Amazing Grace on the Bagpipes at their funerals) - I will never forget.
5. I was sent in by my department 9/14/01 to assist. I never got down to the actual sight - I was assigned to traffic detail. However I have seen all the photos, the FBI videos of people jumping (The ones the mainstream media will not shoe on TV). I've seen pictures of the bodies that jumped - nothing but a puddle of mush.
So no offense - You don't have to lecture me about 9/11.
My only problem with the whole thing is Kids - thats all. They play here too! :aok
By the way isn't this the wrong forum?
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Those who don't like gun cam footage ,the smurfs are on
http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/strife.html
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Originally posted by EN4CER
I do believe this kinda stuff is frowned upon here (I personally do not disapprove of the content politically). I do think it is not appropriate though for some of the younger players who surf this forum.
Agreed.
Enough said there en4cer, no need to quote the rules of the BBS to others that just wanna fight you.
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i agree with en4cer here. not because of the videos but because it isnt really for sensetive viewers. not all AHer's are gunho americans, so some could be a little horrified by seeing people die on camera, and not surprisingly, it isnt going to be great viewing material for kids.
im like en4cer here though, although i disagree with showing the vids in an open public forum, i think all the little buggers deserve what they get
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What would you think if they came to your city and blew things up?
WOuld you feel the same way ?
would you support the war on terrorism?
Would you turn the other cheek and hope for the best?
Hide your head in the sand and hope they go away?
What happens if they start kidnapping Americn citizens on American soil?
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Originally posted by gear
What would you think if they came to your city and blew things up?
WOuld you feel the same way ?
would you support the war on terrorism?
Would you turn the other cheek and hope for the best?
Hide your head in the sand and hope they go away?
What happens if they start kidnapping Americn citizens on American soil?
You missed the point entirely gear. If ya argue about something else, then you aren't part of the discussion. Simple huh.
Anyways, point is, that stuff needs to be kept outta "this" website's forum. Post it somewhere else. Many kids read this bbs.
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Originally posted by gear
What would you think if they came to your city and blew things up?
WOuld you feel the same way ?
would you support the war on terrorism?
Would you turn the other cheek and hope for the best?
Hide your head in the sand and hope they go away?
What happens if they start kidnapping Americn citizens on American soil?
read my post, i think all the bastiges are retarded, and they deserve everything they get and more. dont forget, the little f**kers came and bombed my city too, infact a friend of mine nearly died on the tube because of it...
...however, this forum is not the place for linking vids like that, not because they aren't 'nice' but because young kids and people who are sensetive to stuff like that should not see mass murder on camera. sure, it is war, and im in full support of it. i think all those guys in the middle east are human waste, but even so, seeing em die on camera is not for young kids, who do surf this board. maybe in the o'club with a warning it may be a little better:aok
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Killer post x Marine :aok
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Originally posted by Pooface
read my post, i think all the bastiges are retarded, and they deserve everything they get and more. dont forget, the little f**kers came and bombed my city too, infact a friend of mine nearly died on the tube because of it...
...however, this forum is not the place for linking vids like that, not because they aren't 'nice' but because young kids and people who are sensetive to stuff like that should not see mass murder on camera. sure, it is war, and im in full support of it. i think all those guys in the middle east are human waste, but even so, seeing em die on camera is not for young kids, who do surf this board. maybe in the o'club with a warning it may be a little better:aok
Not directed at your post.
Just some questions for people to think about:aok
I have friends that are in the armed forces.In fact my best friend and his wife are in the ari force and have been over there,my ex room mate just joined up and she may be going over after basic.
As as a prior marine back in '82 I have to agree on the actions being take to protect our citizens. All need to be educated on what's going on.no need to suger coat reality.
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Originally posted by gear
Not directed at your post.
Just some questions for people to think about:aok
I have friends that are in the armed forces.In fact my best friend and his wife are in the ari force and have been over there,my ex room mate just joined up and she may be going over after basic.
As as a prior marine back in '82 I have to agree on the actions being take to protect our citizens.
ah rgr.
yeah. so many of those guys are just so brainwashed. Islam seems to have a lot of very influential preachers. lotta bogus propaganda there too. crazy what these guys do to try and 'force' the american and british troops to leave:lol you cant help but feel a little sorry for some of these guys. they obviously aint to bright:rofl
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Yea Homicide bomber now ther's a bright career move.:aok
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Originally posted by gear
Those who don't like gun cam footage ,the smurfs are on
http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/strife.html
love the footage but I dont want my 10 year old watching them. you must remember young kids play the game and read these boards and WE MUST! be adults about what we say in the game and what we post on these boards.
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All need to be educated on what's going on.no need to suger coat reality.
Fk'n right.
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Originally posted by icemaw
love the footage but I dont want my 10 year old watching them. you must remember young kids play the game and read these boards and WE MUST! be adults about what we say in the game and what we post on these boards.
IMHO, if you or anyone else is letting their kid play a game based on the largest, deadliest, most destructive conflict in history, without helping them to understand and appreciate that fact, you are doing them a great disservice.
Besides, I have seen the same level of graphic violence shown here in many x-box and playstation 2 games. The days of Mario Brothers when large turtles was all you had to worry about are long gone.
Maybe O'Club is better forum than AH General Discussion, but I have no problem with the message overall. This is a war game/sim, sanitized though it is, and death is an integral part of war.
Favorite tag line from a commercial comes to mind . . .
"In real life, there is no reset button"
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Time to put on my Obviousman cape and asbestos underwear.
The Iraqis had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. Nada, zip, zilch. If you read the investigation results published by the 9/11 Commission very closely, they wrote that Iraq was not involved. You have to dig to find it, as it is not a popular truth. But it is the truth.
The Iraq war has been a Charlie Foxtrot since it was first conceived. Not enough troops, ineffective/nonexistent policing of the looters, firing everyone who had a clue about how the country ran, etc. It is also a major distraction from what should be job one, finding every swinging member of Al Qaeda and sending them to Allah.
The clowns who messed up get to sit in their comfy homes, far from the danger, ensuring us that we must stay the course. The ones getting screwed in all of this are the Iraqi civilians and our miltary volunteers. They're in the meat grinder and the crony capitalists get to enjoy the hash. The really big winners are the Islamic radicals. They gain several recruits for every civilian killed by a stray round or bomb.
So continue to feel avenged with each Iraqi death. Someone has to pay, so it may as well be them.
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INCOMING:O you better don your flack bra and bullet proof panties.
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Originally posted by gear
You got to remmber they brought it upon themselves.Ater all they STARTED IT.Remember these?
http://www.pianoladynancy.com/recovery_usscole.htm
(http://www.september11news.com/111wtcreutersitaly.jpg)
(http://www.september11news.com/WTCPhotoSequenceReuters.jpg)
Im sorry say this BUT THE WAR IN IRAQ WAS ABOUT IRAQ HAVING NUKES AND AFTER BUSH NOT LISTENING TO ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES AND GOING KILLING MANY PEOPLE AND THEN SAYS OH THERE AREN'T ANY NUKeS HERE! I meen Bush is a friggin idiot. So what if we arrested Sadam Huinsane but there really isn't any point in this war but what we should be doing is fighting in afganistan where Osama Bin Laden was last around and look for for he was responsible for planning 9/11.
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wow, if i didnt know better i'd say you are drunk.
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Originally posted by Auger
Time to put on my Obviousman cape and asbestos underwear.
Try not to flame, just inform . . .
Originally posted by Auger
The Iraqis had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. Nada, zip, zilch. If you read the investigation results published by the 9/11 Commission very closely, they wrote that Iraq was not involved. You have to dig to find it, as it is not a popular truth. But it is the truth.
I've seen the media cite polls that say people thought that is why we went into Iraq. Not the case. No one in the administration ever said it was. Not once. Not ever.
Bush did not declare a war on Al Qaeda. He declared a war on TERRORISM. And by extension, any country that supports terrorism. Iraq supported terrorist organizations. Best documented (but not the only) cases involve paying the families of suicide bombers that hit Israeli civilians.
It is also a fact that Saddam at one point tried to hire assassins to go after Bush 41. Saddam was not cooperating with UN weapons inspectors. His forces regularly targeted our planes patroling the no-fly zones. Bottom line, he was an enemy of the US. He appeared to be a relatively easy next step after Afghanistan. IMO, if Iraq had come out "as planned", we would have been in Tehran or Damascus by now as well.
Originally posted by Auger
The Iraq war has been a Charlie Foxtrot since it was first conceived. Not enough troops, ineffective/nonexistent policing of the looters, firing everyone who had a clue about how the country ran, etc.
Won't argue - things did not go as planned, probably could have done better. As for firing people -- well, it is no different than the de-Nazification policy in Germany after WW2. That one was rather lame-brained too. But, they canned Patton in part because he thought it was lame-brained, so at least we are consistent.:rolleyes:
Originally posted by Auger
It is also a major distraction from what should be job one, finding every swinging member of Al Qaeda and sending them to Allah.
Umm . . . Al Qaeda is in Iraq. Or does Zarquawi (sp?) not count?
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We are still in Afghanistan. And elsewhere. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Honestly, this argument really bothers me. I guess we should should have ignored Germany, since after all it was Japan that attacked us. We should not have conducted the Torch landings in North Africa because we were still fighting on Guadalcanal. Couldn't do Overlord because we were bogged down in Italy. Again, the prize here is the dismantiling of terrorism. Al Qaeda is in many many places, and they are not nor should they be the only target in this endeavor.
Originally posted by Auger
The clowns who messed up get to sit in their comfy homes, far from the danger, ensuring us that we must stay the course.
True of every war in US history aside from the Revolution and 1812. Not much of a point. Can't think of any country's leader in the modern era who went to fight his own war instead of sending others.
Originally posted by Auger
The ones getting screwed in all of this are the Iraqi civilians and our miltary volunteers.
The Iraqi civilians were quite screwed by Saddam long before we got there. It amazes me that people have so short a memory. I guess had Hitler lived, someone somewhere by 1948 would have been saying Germany was better off under the Nazis.
As for the military volunteers . . . anyone who signed up knew it was possible they would get shipped off somewhere and might not come back. I am truly in awe of and thank anyone and everyone who volunteers. But IMO the only way they have been screwed in this is by limp-wristed politicians here at home who compare them to Nazis or say they are running Gulags.
Originally posted by Auger
They're in the meat grinder and the crony capitalists get to enjoy the hash.
Ahh . . . is this your true color coming out, and is it red? You don't honestly believe this is all about money, do you? If it was about money, much more would have been made by lifting the sanctions and allowing the corporations to go in and do business with Saddam. Just ask the Germans, French and Russians.
And if someone is making a buck, so what? You don't work for free, do you? I wouldn't expect any company to try to re-build Iraq for free.
Originally posted by Auger
The really big winners are the Islamic radicals. They gain several recruits for every civilian killed by a stray round or bomb.
IMO, jury is still out on this one. If Iraq stabilizes and becomes a functioning democracy, and if it spreads to the other countries (granted, appear to be BIG IFs at this point), ultimately the lure of Islamic Radicalism will fade. If the whole thing is allowed to fall apart, then you can expect the terrorists to be stronger than ever -- which is why failure is not an option.
Originally posted by Auger
So continue to feel avenged with each Iraqi death. Someone has to pay, so it may as well be them.
I will continue to feel avenged by every terrorist death, thank you, be they Iraqi, Saudi, Iranian, Syrian . . . Irish, Canadian, whatever. Please don't assume we can't make that distinction. And I will also applaud the death of any repressive regime such as Saddam's or the Taliban. The freer the world is, the better as far as I am concerned. I hope and suspect you would agree.
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THAT is a good post E2- well said
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having "been there and done that" during several deployments, I just have to say...very well put E2.
As for "should the videos be seen by kids" issue...as a parent I let my son play this game, I don't however let him wander aimlessly around the internet. If he wants to come to this bbs, he does it sitting right next to me. I your kids are playing and roaming around the net unsupervised there's alot worse things they could see than tax dollars at work.
my2 cents worth
jolly
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Originally posted by icemaw
love the footage but I dont want my 10 year old watching them. you must remember young kids play the game and read these boards and WE MUST! be adults about what we say in the game and what we post on these boards.
I respectfully dissagree.
I think kids should watch them.
I think its important they do. So that they will better understand exactly what war is.
That its not just guys running around shooting at each other where nobody gets killed like on a video game. Including our very own AH.
10 is about the age my son was when we first took him to the Smithstonian.
I remember there being a picture I think from WWI showing horribly disfigured bodies. I showed it to my son and said 3 simple words
"This is war"
I wanted him to know. to understand EXACTLY what war was. That it wasnt just like on a video game where it is all fun and games. How serious the real subject is.
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E25280 You said everything I was thinking and wanted to post. Being ex-military (U.S. Army Aviation) I honor all of our soldiers that are fighting for our freedoms. As I have said to many people in my life I would gladly give my life for my country. It doesnt matter who is in power at the time, I would be fighting for my country under the stars and stripes. For those who never served in the military may not understand this.
As far as kids seeing these videos, if they understand what is going on in the world and know that unfortunetly this is part of life then they will understand. I am not saying my 6 and 8 yr olds should see it but certianly my 13 yr old should. I IMHO we over protect our childeren. Yes there are sicko's out there and I monitor that very carefully but as far as music, movies, books, and the god aweful political correctness we are making mindless drones who will be the future leaders of our world.
Ok enough said
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Originally posted by Kaw1000
Watch The body parts fly!!!!
As the story goes, some Marines were pinned down in a building in a Fallujah
neighborhood. Terrorists throughout the city heard about it and were rushing
to the area to try to take the Marines out. The Marines called in air
support and the first responders were Air Force F-16's.
This video shows a group of guerrillas rounding a corner onto the street
leading to the Marines. The F-16's altitude appears in the upper right
corner. In the lower right corner is the countdown until the bombs impact.
The crosshairs in the middle indicate where the pilot is directing the laser
spot to guide the bombs.
heres the video......http://media.putfile.com/F16--over--Fallujah--CAS
I watched this vidio on prime time news a few years back. Maybe a day or 2 after the incident. Most of the story above is true except the mistaken "contact". What you actually see is a party of civilians, mostly kids, GTFOOH (getting the ***k out of here). Can't remember the exact detail as to why those kids were there but adults tried to get them out the area. Watch the vid again and you'll see plainly taller people on the upper most part of the circle. If my memory serves me right the US military promised an investigation and a large amount of $ compensation.
What you actually see is often termed "The fog of war".
part 2
I supported the invasion of Iraq but it had nothing to do with 9/11. God knows who started this load of bollox. Coulda been politicain coulda been media but it just ain't true.
Anyone here who believes this tail needs to read up on it and "no" I ain't supplying the links. If you go and seach you'll prolly find more links describing how diametricaly opposed Osama and Sadam were. Both nutters in their own right but FFS don't get suckered on it. The Iraq deal, as reported, was about WMD. The world had receipts for all the crap we sold him and he couldn't or wouldn't account for it. Who knows what the real deal was. Prolly just the fact that Sadam took the pi$$ outta some very weak sanctions. Here's one that comes to mind. UN said we will sell your oil for you and deposit the funds in an account for the Iraq nation (not Sadams personal ATM account) but in the interest of fairness you can tell us who we can sell to. Sadam gets on the blower to buyer XYZ and says bung me a BUNG of X amount of $ and I'll let the UN sell you my oil. (Kaaching).
It's Ok to be patriotic but it's wrong to get suckered. May I suggest to tuning into your national news caster, The BBC World Sercive and Radio Moscow the next time there's a crisis. You'll be more informed to make judgments.
As a parting thought beware the Neo Conservatives, The Capatalist's and the PE ratio Yeild Dividend. :noid
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Flit, JollyFE, and aSilvia, thanks for the kind words. <
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OLD VIDEO.
WRONG FORUM.
RETARDED DEBATE ON POLITICS.
Ohh looks like we have a candidate for the "DUMBEST THREAD OF THE YEAR"
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Originally posted by BigR
OLD VIDEO.
WRONG FORUM.
RETARDED DEBATE ON POLITICS.
Ohh looks like we have a candidate for the "DUMBEST THREAD OF THE YEAR"
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We have a winner ......Big R........Dumbest person i this forum!!!:lol
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Aces High General Discussion is the name of the form in which the thred is posted.Is this not a general descussion.
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Seems like people are dicussing it.. look at all the posts... I gotta say I've never seen so many Babys crying about where to post things
What a joke some of you folks are.....ITS A SIN TO POST SOMETHING IN THE WRONG PLACE....OMG IM GOING TO HELL!!!!! WAAAA WAAA
Too many critics and whinners in this forum......get a life u whinning babys!!
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Originally posted by Kaw1000
Seems like people are dicussing it.. look at all the posts... I gotta say I've never seen so many Babys crying about where to post things
What a joke some of you folks are.....ITS A SIN TO POST SOMETHING IN THE WRONG PLACE....OMG IM GOING TO HELL!!!!! WAAAA WAAA
Too many critics and whinners in this forum......get a life u whinning babys!!
Learn to post in the right forum you knucklehead :D
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Older one, apache in iraq.
http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/04/apache_kills_in_iraq.wmv
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Been looking for that video!!! Thanks for sharing!!.......watch out though, en4cer is going to get mad at you for posting in wrong group!! Hes the new moderator for AH forums!!:rofl
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Three year old video, justifications for attacking Iraq w/ 9/11 as "reason," posting in wrong forum, yep, really fresh stuff.
THE WAR IN IRAQ WAS ABOUT IRAQ HAVING NUKES AND AFTER BUSH NOT LISTENING TO ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES AND GOING KILLING MANY PEOPLE AND THEN SAYS OH THERE AREN'T ANY NUKeS HERE!
Post more!
h
(oh, and IN!)
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Originally posted by EN4CER
I do believe this kinda stuff is frowned upon here (I personally do not disapprove of the content politically). I do think it is not appropriate though for some of the younger players who surf this forum.
With you on this one en4cer but they do have mods for this and im sure if it is not in the rules you will know about as we all will.
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Originally posted by Hoarach
Older one, apache in iraq.
http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/04/apache_kills_in_iraq.wmv
I have one thing to say "TOAST!!!!!"
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In interviews conducted in a prison in Kurdish-controlled territory, captured members of Ansar al-Islam also alleged:
The intelligence service of Saddam Hussein has joint control, with al-Qaeda operatives, over Ansar al-Islam.
Saddam Hussein hosted a senior leader of al-Qaeda in Baghdad in 1992.
A number of al-Qaeda members fleeing Afghanistan have been secretly brought into territory controlled by Ansar al-Islam.
Iraqi intelligence agents smuggled conventional weapons, and possibly even chemical and biological weapons, into Afghanistan
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For those who disbelive that we should defend all people form such Atrocities from a force that tagets civilians. This is a site just for you.There is also a free room for you in Berkley.
(http://media.michaelmoore.com/_images/unified/michael-peeking2.gif)
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Originally posted by gear
For those who disbelive that we should defend all people form such Atrocities from a force that tagets civilians. This is a site just for you.
Will this site help Katrina victims? Cause I wanna make sure people hear about this.
h
(still IN!)
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OHHHH Mikie Moore OMG " Do as I say not as I do" You just opened up a huge can of worms on that name alone......:mad: :furious
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I Like cake
p.s. IN :aok
p.s.s. wrong forum!!!!!!
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they sure have a lot of bombs in that thing...