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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: wrag on March 09, 2006, 04:32:47 PM
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I had em for a time. Or at least I THOUGHT I did.
Evidence follows..........
I'm in on a red ikon type! Line up the shot.... pull the trigger/press the fire button and................ tracers SEEM to go right through him with little or even NO damage.
Same thing IN,... lined up,.... fire,.... totaly MISSED?!?!? No flashs of hit sprites nada?!?!? HEY wait a minute here!!! Kinda looked like the red ikon type sorta flicker/miniwarped!!!! Had to be!!!! I KNOW where to shot and I still missed!!! I was 200 out when I fired and MISSED!!!! ARRGGH stick stirrin bastage!!!!
HO'n typhie,lala comin at me!!!! Fire MISSED??? BANG we collided?!?!? wait how could we collide I didn't SEE that on my front end?!?!? AND WHOA that happened FAST! GEEZ that red ikon type musta had some EEEeeeee!
Ina 109k4, get on the red ikons 6! Right at 200! dot is right on! FIRE! and HUH????? TOTAL MISS? FIRE! GEEZ HOW COULD I MISS THIS CLOSE?
HMMMMMMMM.................... ...... something ain't quite right here............ seems like everything is happening SOOOOO fast anymore!
Except in the occasional 1 v 1 or during early mornings when few are on.
Lookin around and found ....
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm
Saw someone post about FSautostart, said he never flew without it.
http://www.fs-gs.com/downloads.htm
Downloaded it. Read the instructions. Applied instructions to my system.
Dailup connection here at 37K.
Dailup and connect.
Use FSautostart and my firewall say HEY! I say ALLOW IT!
Watch as a bunch of services and progs I DON'T NEED for AHII are stopped.
Watch as my memory is optimized.
AHII STARTS.
Log on and fly.
IN on a red ikon type, line up, fire, whoa!!!!! red ikon type has a serious OWIE :aok
MUHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaa aaaaaa
IN on another red ikon type!!!! WHOA this one is stick stirrin! EZ now Work for the angle, WORK, WORK, FIRE, BANG MUAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA down goes the mean old red ikon type.
UH OH a HO! roll, put in some rudder, angle in, FIRE, BANG, ROLL, ROLL OUT! HEHEHEHEHEHEHE red ikon type has PROBLEMS NOW!
Hmmmm the Ho SEEMED slower????? Had more time to fire??? How ODD?
Ina 109k4, on a red ikon type, under 200, FIRE, BANG, red ikon goes BOOM! HMMMMM in on a another red ikon type, whoa nice move! up, around, roll, whoa! add rudder, deflection shot here, usually miss these, wait for it! wait for it! NOW, FIRE, BANG! MUAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA got me some tail! Hey everyone needs a little tail every now and then!:aok
HMMM........... something is different here.............. hmmmmm....... Seems like I got more time to set up and engage?????? Now number of red and green ikons seems NOT to make a such a big difference!
HMMMMMMMMM................... ........
THINK, THINK, consider, consider, Constipate, Constipate,
AHHHHHHHHHH.................. .............
OK here is MY OPINION of what was WRONG with MY SYSTEM!!!!!
OH ahhh my system........
AMD barton 2500+
Asus A7V8X-X Latest BIOS
1 gig ram
WinXP
ATI Radeoon 9800 pro 128 RAM
Usual FPS varied between max of 75 FPS (monitor refresh max is 85) and a low (in a big furball over a base with fires and buff overhead) 8 FPS.
Applied the FSautostart recommendations.
Now get as high as 78 but the low is now more like 24?!?!?!?
Here Ya go.....
the answer is MY MONITOR was LIEING to me!!!!! :mad:
Well OK maybe it wasn't, maybe it was my video card. :furious
Thing is WHY???? HOW????
CPU cycles!!!!!!:huh
The more services and programs running WHILE I'm flying the less time my CPU has to talk to my video card!
So my video card is NOT getting constant updates! So my monitor is NOT showing me WHAT IS!
If my machine isn't painting EVERY frame! Say it's NOT completing 2 or maybe 3 out of 10 frames at say 75 fps then what I'm seeing actually APPEARS to be FASTER then it really is! AND the position of the red ikon type MAY be where I see it AND MAY not be where I see it depending on WHEN! I can fire AT where the con should be and MISS because while my computer KNOWS where the con really is my video card doesn't SHOW IT! Because it DIDN'T get the information! Sometimes it worked just like it should and other times NOT!
The faster system out there don't suffer as much from this but they can if TOO many services/background programs are running!
Skuzzy wasn't kidding
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71591
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What I do now before I log on to AHII!
Reboot system! Clears the cache!
Run FSautostart!
When done log off.
Reboot system.
Why? TANSTAAFL!
You gotta choose between all that stuff you want running on your system for sufing and whatnot OR getting good preformance in AHII!
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FSAutoStart will restart everything you shut down, so you don't have to reboot after playing the game, at least it does on mine. I love FSAutoStart !!
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So how do you choose which programs to cut out? How do you know which you can do without?
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You guys sound like a Tony Robbins seminar.
Scaring the hell out of me.
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Originally posted by Toad
So how do you choose which programs to cut out? How do you know which you can do without?
Start FSautostart and then select services. Place the mouse over the service and read!
It has instructions in the readme file.
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
FSAutoStart will restart everything you shut down, so you don't have to reboot after playing the game, at least it does on mine. I love FSAutoStart !!
I kept getting an error message with my anti-virus prog so decided to just log off disconnect and reboot.
Everything resets to normal then.
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The mouse over doesn't always work, sometimes you get a "No information avalible" message. Write down the name of the service or file your looking to possibly shut down, and go here http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm You can find "most" of the services and tasks listed here. They have been very good for all that I've looked up. Read the info on the srevice or file your qestioning. A lot of the time it will also tell you weather you need the file at all.
Remember, ya can't screw this up! Thats the nice thing about FSAutostart, it doesn't make any permenate changes to your computer!! If you shut something off that causes it to crash, or lock up, just reboot and your back to the original settings. Re-do your "saved file" in FSAUtoStart, and try again.
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Sorry, Wrag, just one question - you didn't know that before?
What is your occupation?
Something is going very wrong on this planet. You can't drive a car without driver license. Nobody will sell you any pills without prescription, they don't believe you are smart enough to cure yourself. Insurance company refuses to pay if you have made any changes in switches in your home because you are not certified electrician.
But everybody who bought a computer consider themself as a specialist. Funny...
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Never used fsautostart.
Just hit start=>run then type msconfig and hit enter.
Hit the startup tab. You can pretty much deselect everything, Windows itself will run fine with all startup software disabled. Just look for anything you might actually want, i.e. joystic profiler software, sound mixer, etc...
You can deselect some services and stuff if you feel like getting crazy but it's not usually necassary.
Msconfig since Windows 95 baby!
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Originally posted by Vad
Sorry, Wrag, just one question - you didn't know that before?
What is your occupation?
Something is going very wrong on this planet. You can't drive a car without driver license. Nobody will sell you any pills without prescription, they don't believe you are smart enough to cure yourself. Insurance company refuses to pay if you have made any changes in switches in your home because you are not certified electrician.
But everybody who bought a computer consider themself as a specialist. Funny...
Yes I knew it but didn't have anything like FSautostart.
I turned stuff off. But FSautostart does a much better job. And the post just above yours by The Fugitive explains part of the reason FSautostart is a pretty good program.
Also for awhile didn't need it. The problems have been fairly recent. Started up after the introduction of the new smoothing code. Up till then I could fly pretty much anytime but had to put up with miniwarps. Now the miniwarps are pretty much gone but SEEMS the plane is NOT always where you SEE it.
OH and FYI this post was NOT for the computer specialist that think they are SOOOOOO WOW that they need to toot their horn of self-wonderfulness so everyone will go woopie for em!
This post is for the OTHERS that fly in AHII.
And surprise!!!! there are allot of people that fly in AHII and don't even have a clue how to fix these things without someone giving them HELP.
Ya Funny!
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you have to use spy-ware to do something you can do?
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WOW ... made a big difference for me ... thanks alot !!!
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OK, Wrag, I will try to explain.
What you are suggesting is exactly like this:
"Hey, guys! I have Acura MDX, and manual tells you that you have to fill tank by 91! Forget this, guys! I tried , and it works perfect with 87! Keep your money, don't waste them, stupid manufacture doesn't know even its own vehicle!"
1. Windows provide even more convinient ways to control services running on your system than this program. You just need to look into Windows manual.
2. This progam allows you to shut down some processes and services but the problem is: you have to know what service you can shut down! And if you have no idea about SERVICES in Control panel I bet you don't have a clue what services are crucial, and what are not.
3. 99% of services running on your computer by default don't affect AH in any way. I would say that only antivirus soft plus firewall really affect it. And if you got some improvement in your connection it means that you turned off your firewall.
4. I am working for Internet game industry, and responcible for connectivity, security, etc. About year ago we made some experiments, and they showed that it usually takes about 10 minutes in average before your computer will be attacked from the Internet if you have public IP. If your firewall wasn't running , and you hadn't apllied the latest patches, you got a problem.
5. I would like to give you advise: never ever again use your computer for access to your bank account, credit card transactions, any sensitive information.
I may be wrong, and you know all that stuff even better than me. But in this case you would better tell us what services you shut down. It would be more useful.
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Well Vad, have ya even checked out the program mentioned?
1. Windows provide even more convinient ways to control services running on your system than this program. You just need to look into Windows manual.
Yes you can use windows to shut down services and programs, but you would have to do this each time, or set your computer to boot with these things always off. With this program it does it for you automatically, and only when you want it to.
2. This progam allows you to shut down some processes and services but the problem is: you have to know what service you can shut down! And if you have no idea about SERVICES in Control panel I bet you don't have a clue what services are crucial, and what are not.
If you read the above post you will have ntice that the program has an infomation section and as you "mouse over each service and/or program it trys to let you know what it is and if it is nessisary. Also posted was a site that give very good information on many more services and programs, making it very easy to figure out which ones to shut down and which not to.
3. 99% of services running on your computer by default don't affect AH in any way. I would say that only antivirus soft plus firewall really affect it. And if you got some improvement in your connection it means that you turned off your firewall.
Wrong, with a computer that is on the edge with CPU power, ram, and video ram, should some of these other programs and service start, or are running unnecisarily it will take soome of your computing power away from the game to run them there-by effecting the game.
4. I am working for Internet game industry, and responcible for connectivity, security, etc. About year ago we made some experiments, and they showed that it usually takes about 10 minutes in average before your computer will be attacked from the Internet if you have public IP. If your firewall wasn't running , and you hadn't apllied the latest patches, you got a problem.
If you read the last paragraph or so of Wrag original post, you'll see he wasn't talking about connectivity at all, he was talking about CPU cycles and video card not sending all the frames to his screen. I agree a firewall is a good thing, mines a hardware firewall so it take no CPU power away from me. I think its been posted that it is pretty safe to run with-out your virus protection running while playing the game.
As for a list of things he shut down, or what I did may be a very big differance. I shut down a number of things including print scroller, auto updates, ipod services and such. It depends on what you have installed on your computer. When I fly, I don't need these things so they are off to save power for the game. When not flying I use them so I don't have to re-boot while using this program, it "automatically" starts all those services again.
FSAutoStart also has an option to clean up your ram. Using your computer will clog your ram a bit by leaving stuff in the memories just in case you might need them.... windows trying to be helpfull again...The program will run a quick Defrag on your memmory cleaning it up. For me at a gig of ram, it may not be important, for someone with only 512, it may.
So for non computer geeks, with systems that might not be the mega-monsters some out there have this might be a good answer. With little knowledge, a little bit of reading and some expermenting you can "tweak" a little more speed out of an old box. It may be the differance bettween being playable and not.
Just because windows built the system doesn't mean they know whats right for me or maybe for some others out there too.
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Originally posted by Vad
OK, Wrag, I will try to explain.
What you are suggesting is exactly like this:
"Hey, guys! I have Acura MDX, and manual tells you that you have to fill tank by 91! Forget this, guys! I tried , and it works perfect with 87! Keep your money, don't waste them, stupid manufacture doesn't know even its own vehicle!"
1. Windows provide even more convinient ways to control services running on your system than this program. You just need to look into Windows manual.
2. This progam allows you to shut down some processes and services but the problem is: you have to know what service you can shut down! And if you have no idea about SERVICES in Control panel I bet you don't have a clue what services are crucial, and what are not.
3. 99% of services running on your computer by default don't affect AH in any way. I would say that only antivirus soft plus firewall really affect it. And if you got some improvement in your connection it means that you turned off your firewall.
4. I am working for Internet game industry, and responcible for connectivity, security, etc. About year ago we made some experiments, and they showed that it usually takes about 10 minutes in average before your computer will be attacked from the Internet if you have public IP. If your firewall wasn't running , and you hadn't apllied the latest patches, you got a problem.
5. I would like to give you advise: never ever again use your computer for access to your bank account, credit card transactions, any sensitive information.
I may be wrong, and you know all that stuff even better than me. But in this case you would better tell us what services you shut down. It would be more useful.
Get the program and LOOK at it! It tells you what most services DO! Very few aren't explained. As to programs you can always look here
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm
as to what affects your computers while running AH. Sorry but the more things your CPU has to access each cycle DO make a difference when online and flyin in AHII!
Skuzzy has tried to explain this in his tech support thread.
Guess AHII is very GPU/CPU/net (all very related) intensive.
Some people are seeing differences using these programs.
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Originally posted by wrag
Get the program and LOOK at it! It tells you what most services DO! Very few aren't explained. As to programs you can always look here
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm
as to what affects your computers while running AH. Sorry but the more things your CPU has to access each cycle DO make a difference when online and flyin in AHII!
Skuzzy has tried to explain this in his tech support thread.
Guess AHII is very GPU/CPU/net (all very related) intensive.
Some people are seeing differences using these programs.
Man oh man
does that proggie have a shut off for when squadies start to sing?
:O
NwBie
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I agree with Wrag and Fugitive that FSAutoStart is a great app and have been using it for a couple years.
Do I permanently turn off unecessary Services through Control Panel?
Absolutely, I have 25 services set to start automatically.
Do I use MSconfig to limit startups?
Absolutely.
I still use FSAutoStart to temporarily turn off 15 more services and 10 programs that I don't want off permanently; such as AV, Telephony, Win Fax and Print Spooler. They all restart when I exit AH so I never forget to restart important apps such as AV and I don't have to reboot.
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Note: This might help only if you get rubber bullets all the time. It didn't help any problems I've had with 30mm rounds lately, and it didn't improve much else, either. I haven't had many problems, though, so I'm not the best test subject.
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Originally posted by Nwbie
Man oh man
does that proggie have a shut off for when squadies start to sing?
:O
NwBie
NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
Well Vad, have ya even checked out the program mentioned?
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Just because windows built the system doesn't mean they know whats right for me or maybe for some others out there too.
Yes, I checked this program. Idiots wrote that but I will fail to explain you why.
Just couple of examples: you don't need to have running Workstation and Server services when playing AH. More over , it is better to have them turned off for security reasons. But the developers of that program don't know about that.
And about Windows. They definitly know more than you what is right for you. Just because they wrote this program, and know how it works. You don't know that.
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Ya they know whats right all right, thats why most people use FireFox now instead of the "Awesome" browser they have. They don't know how I run my computer nor can they possible be able to make everyone happy and "tweak" there computer how they want it.
You don't like the program, don't use it! However, don't jump down someones throat for suggesting a very good alternative to problems some people are having with their computers.
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Fugitive, I don't need to use this program. All I need operating system allows me to do.
And let leave Microsoft aside, I use and work on linux. HTC doesn't like Linux, so I have to have Windows for playing.
But I do know why some times all news blow with "new virus attacks millions of computers around the world! Downlod new patch, or you will be the next tagret! Hackers threaten the US most secure networks! WW3 is about to begin!" and so on.
And all of that is just because some morons downloaded some very useful "free" program.
Sorry, it is the part of my job - to save the world after downloads of such programs. May be I have some bias but I have excuse - even playing AH I sometimes get a call and, instead of killing Shawk, I have to save the world again.
Little bit get tired.
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Originally posted by Vad
But I do know why some times all news blow with "new virus attacks millions of computers around the world! Downlod new patch, or you will be the next tagret! Hackers threaten the US most secure networks! WW3 is about to begin!" and so on.
What makes you think that the "MORONS" using FSAutostart don't keep their computers updated?
Originally posted by Vad
And all of that is just because some morons downloaded some very useful "free" program.
I don't know why calling people you don't know childish names makes you feel big and important just because they use an app you don't like. I also don't see how I am creating any security risk for you by using it, alone causing WW3.
Don't worry, I won't be calling upon your genius to save me from anything and certainly not to save the world!
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Tonite was the worst rubber bullets I've seen. I don't know if the new ISP is twiddling the dials or what to try to improve things, but at least from where I connect (Los Angeles via SBC DSL) there's no point taking off.
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Several of my squaddies have quit since the move. I hope they will be back and the new ISP gets things cleaned up. They've had rubber bullits also.......they just quit until a resolution of this matter comes to fruition.
I myself connection wise have problems with 1DallsLevel3nets first hop. I get through Chicago fine on CHIlevel3.net at a 30ms ping rate. I hit the first hop on dallaslevel3.net and Ping rates increase by 200% and the route keeps constantly changing at that point.
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Originally posted by Vad
Fugitive, I don't need to use this program. All I need operating system allows me to do.
Well thats great for a computer "Genius" like you, but for us normal folk whos IQ is soooooo far below yours that we are "Morons" this is a great app.
As far as my computer not being protected, thats a load of crap. I take care of mine as well if not better than you possible do, tho not knowing you personally I can't be positive. I am not paranoid as some who are trying to "save the world" from all the malisious software attacking my computer....there are thousands of hackers looking for my info I'm sure :rolleyes: ....
Today FSAutoStart is a free app, but someday it may just be part of a hugh software company that will rival "Microsoft", everyone has to start someplace. Having done my home work on this program I have not found any where that people have been crushed by malware/spyware or viruses using it. Davenrino has used it for 2 years and he hasn't posted a single complaint about it. I would rather trust a "community" of testers than the inflated opinion of a single person.
As I said before, if ya don't want to use the program, don't! But don't come in here and call people names for trying something new and then posting their favorable results.
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comment on FSautostart......
just installed it today.....
it freed up over 125 Meg of system ram.....
my frame rates, even in a heavy furball didn't drop below 55.
As for rubber bullets...I can't hit the broad side of a barn even if I were inside it.
Still seem to come out on the dirty end of collisions...but, I digress
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Downloaded it and began using it yesterday.
First off, once you see how to use it, it's not too difficult. Allow your cursor to scroll over the "Services" and "Programs." The program will give you a description of the program and advise whether to take "No action" or turn it off. I always select "Stop and Return." Once complete, you need to select which .exe (AH executable), you want this profile to work for, then save.
Now, instead of just starting AH, you open FSautostart and hit "Start." The program will then begin shutting down all of your unnecessary programs and then launch AH. Once done with AH, the program restarts all of your programs and services.
I've noticed a substantial increase in frame rates (maybe 33%) and a lot less misses when I actually line up a shot. Don't worry, I still suck, just at a reduced level...:aok
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Pile-It: Well Chief, I got good news and I got bad news.
Crew Chief: You lost the plane? Give me the bad news first.
Pile-It: There was this P51 strafing our base and I guess he didn't think I could catch him in that lame Fw190. So I split-essed onto him as he made a run and ended up right in position. 250 yards off his tail and steady at that range.
Crew Chief: Sounds good so far.
Pile-It: Then a friendly appears on the field so I start firing at the P51 to kill him before he could vultch it.
Crew Chief: And?
Pile-It: Well, I'm saddled up and the P51 is just about in range to vultch. I unloaded all 4 20mm's and the 2 13mm's. The shells passed through him, no hits on him at all ... they hit the friendly plane on the runway, I got kill-shootered and the P51 got the credit. Only way they could hit that plane was to go through the P51.
Crew Chief: Holy crap ... so what's the good news?
Pile-It: Looks like the bullets weren't rubber.