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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 11, 2006, 07:05:23 AM
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Yeah right.. :rofl
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Wait until the race is on.
He will not/win tomorrow.
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:rofl
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..Typically McLaren broke up..
I think someone is sabotaging Kimi´s car because he is the only one having problems in the team every year!
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I was proven right when I first said it and I will prove it again. :D
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Originally posted by LLv34 Jarsci
..Typically McLaren broke up..
I think someone is sabotaging Kimi´s car because he is the only one having problems in the team every year!
I think his watertank is filled with something abit more potent. Or maybe he is too busy looking at himself in the mirror. :p
I wonder how Alfonso is going to do this season. I belive he has a contract with McLarren next season.
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I like the new qualification sessions.
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Bah,
It's the Italian machine that makes Schumi :D
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Even if he never wins another race he is still in the record books.
PS. I would like to have just the money he must pay in taxes he is very wealthy.
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Senna, enough said.
Karaya
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I prefer Prost over Senna
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Originally posted by Nilsen
I prefer Prost over Senna
I'd prefer Prost over Schumi too. :D
Karaya
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I'd prefer Prost over Schumi too. :D
Karaya
oh yes
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When he wins a NASCAR Nextel Cup event you can tell me how great he is. Until then he's just some kid on a go-cart.
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Originally posted by rpm
When he wins a NASCAR Nextel Cup event you can tell me how great he is. Until then he's just some kid on a go-cart.
Nascar is that those trained chimps they got goin round in circles:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Senna, enough said.
Karaya
Wasn't aware they'd dug him up and was racing in Bahrain...Schumi will still beat him tonight even if he comes last...
Originally posted by rpm
When he wins a NASCAR Nextel Cup event you can tell me how great he is. Until then he's just some kid on a go-cart.
hehe...they're a similar concept - both rely on aero and race management...of course an F1 car is an advanced peice of technology - and a nascar is still a brick on wheels :aok
Tronsky
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Wasn't aware they'd dug him up and was racing in Bahrain...Schumi will still beat him tonight even if he comes last...
hehe...they're a similar concept - both rely on aero and race management...of course an F1 car is an advanced peice of technology - and a nascar is still a brick on wheels :aok
Tronsky
So in AH terms, who has more skill when they win a turnfight? niki(handicapped purpose built technology) or bf-110(flying brick)
f1 sucks, girlymen,girlycars,girlytracks.
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Originally posted by Pooh21
So in AH terms, who has more skill when they win a turnfight? niki(handicapped purpose built technology) or bf-110(flying brick)
f1 sucks, girlymen,girlycars,girlytracks.
Well if they were racing together that would make some sense...of course I would think an F1 Car would slaughter a Nascar in a straight race - but that would never happen because they're completely different cars.
Tronsky
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Oval track racing in any form looks extremly boring to me. If they raced nascar on normal tracks it may be abit more exciting.
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A nascar would be pwned by an F1 even on an oval track for simple reasons. F1 outclasses a nascar in every category - grip, power to weight, top speed etc.
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
A nascar would be pwned by an F1 even on an oval track for simple reasons. F1 outclasses a nascar in every category - grip, power to weight, top speed etc.
I think nascars wins in one category.. they have more advertising space on them.
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today's F1 cars do 0-100mph then back to 0mph all in about 7-9 seconds. i forget the exact figure.
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Some brake data:
A modern F1 car can brake from 200kmh (125mph) to 0 in aprox
1.8 sec. (55m) This maneuver produces 5G's and the brakes heat up to 800°Celsius (1472 degrees Fahrenheit).
Typical brake Delays from over 300kmh (187mph) down to 80kmh (50mph)
are done in aprox 1sec.
you must be in a very good physical condition to drive this cars fast
around for a aprox 300km long drive. Thats one plus Schumi have, he is
not only very fast, he is, if not the fitest still of all drivers and that after
13 years doing this sport.
yes, sure this sport is for girlymen, lol
cu on the track in a few!
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GREAT RACE!
Impressive:
Alfonso
Shumi
How close the top teams are in speed
Rosberg! (2 points in his first race)
Cosworth engine
Raikkonen
Less downforce = more exciting racing
Qualifying session
Not so impressive:
Toyota
Massa
Renault car retiering in the first race.. they used to be among the best.
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Overall a very good race
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Great race...a one second longer pitstop was all that matters...
Tronsky
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Oval track racing in any form looks extremly boring to me. If they raced nascar on normal tracks it may be abit more exciting.
Nascar Nextel Cup does road racing, albeit only two races. Nascar Busch series adds a road race in Mexico City. These are fun to watch. Road races draw a lot of road racing drivers to Nascar... But, they rarely beat the Nascar regulars.
I think that some F1 fans tend to look down on the oval track drivers, mostly out of ignorance. Some Nascar fans are snobbish as well.
If you take a look at some of road racing's famous drivers, you find some who got their start and were successful in oval racing. Mario Andretti, Parnelli Jones and AJ Foyt. Andretti won just about everything worth winning. USAC Champ title, USAC Spint champ, CART title, F1 Champion, Daytona 500, Indy 500 and so on. The only thing missing is a win at LeMans. In his prime, there wan't anything that Mario couldn't drive and drive as fast or faster as anyone else alive.
Even today there are Nascar drivers with as much talent as you will find anywhere.
Does anyone recall Jeff Gordon's F1 test at Indy in June of 2003? He had an opportunity to test Montoya's Williams/BMW. Montoya in turn had the chance to drive Gordon's Monte Carlo.
Each driver took their own cars out for some fast laps and to make sure the set-ups were correct for the circuit. Gordon had not driven the Indy F1 course before, so he spent some time getting his Chevy set-up properly. After each had turned the fastest laps they could manage, they traded cars.
Montoya did reasonably well in the heavy Monte Carlo. He was able to lap within 5 seconds of Gordon's best time. Montoya stated that these were very difficult cars to adjust to. Gordon thought that Montoya had adjusted quickly and also believed he would be competitive with more practice and a few changes to the car. Gordon suggested some set-up adjustments that would better suit Montoya's driving style. Montoya promptly cut three seconds off his lap times. Based upon the speed difference ratio between Gordon and Montoya, Montoya would have qualified 29th of 43 cars at the Watkins Glen Cup road race.
"If Juan were to get a few races under his belt, I have no doubt that he would be as fast as anyone driving a Cup car, especially on the road courses", said Gordon.
When it was Gordon's turn, he headed out in the Williams, gradually increasing his speeds. Like Montoya had done in the Monte Carlo, Gordon over-cooked it into a turn and ended up driving the Williams across the infield and back onto the circuit.
As he adjusted to the Williams, Gordon's times rapidly came down. His final lap was just 1.3 seconds slower than Montoya's best. It was a time fast enough to make the F1 Indy field that year. Not bad for 7 laps at speed in a totally unfamiliar car.
Watching Gordon lap around Indy, the Williams and F1 people were quite impressed. "It's a shame he didn't get more time in the car," said Montoya, "I'm sure he'd be as competitive as anybody in F1."
Both drivers admitted to being a bit conservative, not wishing to risk damaging the other's car. Both drivers demonstrated that talent is not limited by the type of car, and served to show experience required to master them is all each needed to be competitive. Great driving talents will excel in any type of car, given the opportunity.
(http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2003/06/12/gordon_montoya/gordonsitting_xl.jpg)
Gordon and Montoya at Indy.
My regards,
Widewing
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Im not saying that its easy to race on an oval track, its just that I find it boring to watch. Im not a big racing fan at all, and F1 is not my favorite. I prefere endurance racing like Le Mans.
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Originally posted by Pooh21
So in AH terms, who has more skill when they win a turnfight? niki(handicapped purpose built technology) or bf-110(flying brick)
f1 sucks, girlymen,girlycars,girlytracks.
LOL a comparison between a computer game and a multi million dollar racong series is pretty ignorant.
The skill involved in going 200mph in a circle can hardly compare with all the turning and bracking involved with F-1
Granted all the "driving aids" in F-1 is outta hand IMHO but it still takes tons more skill that going round in circles.
Now not saying the Nascar boys aint talented ofcoures they are driving that fast that close takes huges ones.
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Nigel Mansell seemed to do rather well on the ovals after F1. ;) Whereas Michael Andretti went in the opposite direction and did rather disasterouosly.
It comes down to driver, equipment and that bit of luck that your competitor is less reliable than your team.
I personally prefer F1 because of all the corners and over taking opportunities (different corners/chicanes present different overtaking chances). I honestly find ovals boring, I'm not being snobish when I say that, I just don't find it excillerating. Likewise I'm sure many other people thoroughly enjoy it. I guess it's what you're brought up with. Take WRC for instance, very exciting but publicity and airtime is less than F1 and people don't always get the chance to see it.
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Originally posted by Replicant
Nigel Mansell seemed to do rather well on the ovals after F1. ;) Whereas Michael Andretti went in the opposite direction and did rather disasterouosly.
It comes down to driver, equipment and that bit of luck that your competitor is less reliable than your team.
I personally prefer F1 because of all the corners and over taking opportunities (different corners/chicanes present different overtaking chances). I honestly find ovals boring, I'm not being snobish when I say that, I just don't find it excillerating. Likewise I'm sure many other people thoroughly enjoy it. I guess it's what you're brought up with. Take WRC for instance, very exciting but publicity and airtime is less than F1 and people don't always get the chance to see it.
I also enjoy F1, but it's slipped a lot since its competitive peak in the 1960s and 70s. There's many new road race series in the US now, and several of them are owned by Nascar.
Another event I enjoy is the Race of Champions, which was held in Paris this past year. Sebastien Loeb won the event. Afterwards when asked who he had expected to be the greatest threat, he answered: "Jeff Gordon." Gordon was on a pace to meet Loeb in the finals, but suffered a gearbox failure and was eliminated. Two years ago, Gordon won the team event with Jimmy Johnson.
I suspect that Gordon is so good at this type of racing because he is among the most well rounded drivers in the business. There has been talk of Gordon and Tony Stewart teaming up for the 2006 ROC. That would be a formidable combination.
My regards,
Widewing
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The Indy "Road Course" is not the best example.
But honestly,
1. WRC
2. F1
3. MotoGP
There's the best right there, IN ORDER, imo.
Karaya
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"Im not saying that its easy to race on an oval track, its just that I find it boring to watch. "
Some of them ARE boring to watch, and they just happen to be at the tracks that are the most widely televised--Daytona, Talladega, etc. Some of the drivers don't like driving at those tracks, either.
Generally speaking, the shorter/slower the track, the better the nascar race is as a spectator sport. The races at Bristol or Martinsville are nearly always interesting. I prever this sort of racing over something like F1 because the drivers don't have to avoid each other like they do in open wheel cars--there's contact in nascar, and lots of it.
J_A_B
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She can do zero to ***** in 3.75 seconds so there !
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Rosbergs performance in his first race was awesome too. He's the son of the first finnish F1 world champion and it looks like he inherited some talent. ;)
Did I ever tell you guys about the time when I raced a F3 driver in karting?
I lost. :mad: :aok