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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Oldman731 on March 13, 2006, 07:48:54 AM
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Welcome to Italy.
Setup is about where things were when Axis counterattacked the US beaches. Maybe a little after that.
Note that Corsica and Sardinia are occupied by the Bishops, who can't fly. There were two reasons for this:
1. Makes it harder to pork the map, which became a problem in Tunisia.
2. It's a pain to change all those extra bases to Allied, and historically it's not time yet. We may change this as the war progresses.
Although the map is going up a day late, we've kept up with the plane schedule and will continue to adhere to the original MOTD.
Please post any problems here.
Here's the MOTD, in case you can't remember where we last posted it:
MARE NOSTRUM
This setup will run two weeks, with the first spent on the
Tunisia map, and the second on the Italy map. Due to the
limits of our Italian plane set, we start in early 1941 with
the arrival of Luftwaffe fighters in theater.
Once again, thanks to Sable (a/k/a kneedrgr) for figuring
this out.
WELCOME TO ITALY. NOTE THESE CHANGES:
ALLIES ARE NOW ROOKS
AXIS ARE STILL KNIGHTS
BISHOPS (SARDINIA AND CORSICA) CAN'T FLY (and will
be harder to pork).
Although the map has been loaded a day late, we'll stick
with the changes noted on the MOTD as scheduled.
Allied Rear Fields in Italy:
A25, 103-105, 114
Axis Rear Fields in Italy:
A1, 2, 26, 27, 29-35, 48-50, 53-57, 63-69, 77-87
Day 1: Early 1941 - Sunday, March 5th
Allies
Hurricane I
Boston
C-47
Axis
Bf109E
Bf110C
Ju87
Ju88
C-47
Day 2: Mid 1941 - Monday, March 6th
Allies
add Hurricane IIC (rear fields)
Axis
No change
Day 3: Late 1941 - Tuesday, March 7th
Allies
add P-40B
Hurricane IIC now available at all fields
Axis
add C202 (rear fields only)
add Bf109F
Day 4: Early 1942 - Wednesday, March 8th
Allies
Add P-40E (rear fields)
Axis
C202 now available at all fields
remove Bf109E
Day 5: Mid 1942 - Thursday, March 9th
Allies
Add Hurricane IID (rear fields)
Add Seafire (rear fields) (Spit Vc sub)
P-40E now available at all fields
remove Hurricane I
Axis
add Bf109G2 (rear fields)
Day 6: Late 1942 - Friday, March 10th - Operation Torch! The Americans invade North Africa
USAAF bases: USAAF - A4, A16, A17, A18, A19, A20, P27, A32, P33, V36, C41, C42, V51
RAF (allied fields in the SE)
Seafire is now available at all fields
F4F and Seafire enabled on CVs for this day only
USAAF (allies get new fields in NW for US)
Add A-20
Add B-17 (rear fields)
Add B-24 (rear fields)
Add B-26
Add P-38G
F4F enabled on CVs for this day only
US fields also get P-40E and Seafire enabled
Axis
add Fw190A5 (rear fields)
Bf109G2 now available at all fields
Day 7: Early 1943 - Saturday, March 11th
RAF
Add Spit IX (rear fields)
Add Mosquito (rear fields)
remove P-40B
USAAF
Add Spit IX (rear fields)
Axis
Add Bf110G
remove Bf110C
Day 8: Mid 1943 - Sunday, March 12th
Switch to Italy map
Allies (RAF/USAAF now share bases)
Add Spit VIII (rear fields)
Spit IX now available at all fields
Mosquito now available at all fields
Axis
Add C205 (rear fields)
Add Bf109G6
Fw190A5 now available at all fields
remove Bf109F
Day 9: Late 1943 - Monday, March 13th
Allies
Add P-47D11 (rear fields)
Axis
C205 now available at all fields
remove C202
remove Ju87
Day 10: Early 1944 - Tuesday, March 14th
Allies
Add P-38J (rear fields)
Add P-51B (rear fields)
P-47D-11 now availalble at all fields
Spit VIII now available at all fields
remove Hurri IIC
remove Hurri IID
Axis
Add Fw190F8
Bf110G now available at rear fields only
remove Fw190A5
remove Bf109G2
Day 11: Mid 1944 - Wednesday, March 15th Operation Dragoon - the allies invade southern
France
Allies
Add P-38L (rear fields)
Add P-47D25 (rear fields)
Add P-51D (rear fields)
P-38J now available at all fields
P-51B now available at all fields
remove P-38G
remove Seafire
remove P-40E
Enable FM2, F6F, Seafire from carriers for this day only
Axis
no change
Day 12: Late 1944 - Thursday, March 16th
Allies
P-38L now available at all fields
P-47D25 now available at all fields
P-51D now available at all fields
remove Spit IX
Axis
Add Bf109G14
remove FW190F8
Day 13: Early 1945 - Friday, March 17th
Allies
Add P-47D40
remove P-51B
remove P-47D11
Axis
Add Bf109K4
remove C205
Carriers are enabled for only the two days listed, as carrier
based fighters saw action mainly during those two periods.
Arena settings:
Killshooter is off
Visibility is 11 miles
Fuel burn is 1.2
Strat is off'
Ack (all types) is .25
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Oldman, according to what the MOTD states, the countries ( Bishop and Knight ) are set wrong. You say the Islands of Sardinia and Corsica are supposed to be Bishop, while Mainland Italy is supposed to be Knight.
While I was there, the Islands of Corsica and Sardinia are Knight, and the Mainland is all Bishop as well as most of the island of Sicily. The Bishops have the aircraft posted for the Axis, the Rooks have the aircraft posted for the Allied, and the Knights have most of the Posted Axis aircraft.
it looked like sfer, as a Knight, was attempting to capture all of the Italian Mainland by himself while I was in and out of the Arena. I can only assume sfer is the one capturing bases, as he was the only Knight showing on the roster while I was there.:lol and I saw two Bishop bases captured by the Knights.
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I don't believe that sfr porked the map. Looked to me when iIpopped in a few minutes ago, he was just trying to regain fields that were already porked. No harm there.
But the map is porked.
Gotta be a frustrating week for the AvA staff.
Cheers,
RTR
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Originally posted by RTR
I don't believe that sfr porked the map. Looked to me when iIpopped in a few minutes ago, he was just trying to regain fields that were already porked. No harm there.
But the map is porked.
Gotta be a frustrating week for the AvA staff.
Cheers,
RTR
Yes, it is.
Just reset the countries, seems to be working again.
Remember that allies are now ROOKS, not Bishops.
- oldman
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Thanks Oldman!
RTR
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Originally posted by RTR
I don't believe that sfr porked the map. Looked to me when iIpopped in a few minutes ago, he was just trying to regain fields that were already porked. No harm there.
But the map is porked.
Gotta be a frustrating week for the AvA staff.
Cheers,
RTR
Didn't for a minute think sfer porked anything. Was just commenting on his attempt to regain control of the Italian Mainland by Himself. A BIG job, but he was takin a BIG swing at gettin it done, lol.
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Originally posted by Jaekart
Oldman, according to what the MOTD states, the countries ( Bishop and Knight ) are set wrong. You say the Islands of Sardinia and Corsica are supposed to be Bishop, while Mainland Italy is supposed to be Knight.
While I was there, the Islands of Corsica and Sardinia are Knight, and the Mainland is all Bishop as well as most of the island of Sicily. The Bishops have the aircraft posted for the Axis, the Rooks have the aircraft posted for the Allied, and the Knights have most of the Posted Axis aircraft.
it looked like sfer, as a Knight, was attempting to capture all of the Italian Mainland by himself while I was in and out of the Arena. I can only assume sfer is the one capturing bases, as he was the only Knight showing on the roster while I was there.:lol and I saw two Bishop bases captured by the Knights.
I was on when the map was set up. The main land was all bish with the excption of a few bases in the far south,they where rook.The knights where confined to an island and that ment an allday flight to engadge the allied.There was an atemmpt to capture bases on the main land and work south to where the allied base were.There was no thought to pork the map,just move closer to the allied players otherwise it would ave been "fly forever fite for a few min die and repeat". As the move south was under way we declaired the northen most bases off limits to pervent porking the map. Then OM came in and set the map up properly.
:aok
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Originally posted by gear
As the move south was under way we declaired the northen most bases off limits to pervent porking the map. Then OM came in and set the map up properly.
:aok
It was my fault, Gear, and no one should castigate you or anyone else. I screwed things up when I set up the map early this morning; fortunately you were there when I logged back on later in the a.m. to check on the status, and you gave me some good feedback.
This Italy map is beautiful, and we owe great thanks to asw and the others who made it. But it is a bear to set up in the CT (...er...AvA), because as designed it envisions a real three-way war. (You MA types should consider this.)
- oldman (and also because the competent people weren't available this weekend!)
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It was an interesting twist to have to work south to engadge the allies.They would have had to move north diong the same until a front line is established.:aok
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Woo! An italian setup! Thanks, AvA staff, I'm sure I'm gonna like it! ;) I'd just like to see the arena more crowded in Euro evenings... :p
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Originally posted by Gianlupo
Woo! An italian setup! Thanks, AvA staff, I'm sure I'm gonna like it! ;) I'd just like to see the arena more crowded in Euro evenings... :p
So, kick your fellow Euros in the pants and get them in here!
The front has moved to approximately the 1943-44 Winter Line - we made some adjustments because of base placement. Could be hard times for the Axis for the next few days, because the FWs have all been withdrawn to face the Eighth AF. Learn to get good in the G6 and the 205.
- oldman
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The front has moved to approximately the 1943-44 Winter Line
Nice! So I can take off in my Veltro from the field near my home! ;D
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Hey Om this Italy setup is great... I'm having no problems with it...well excluding my dryspell and seeming to land nothing but assists but other than that it's great.. one thing though.... do you have a timetable more or less of when we will be flying in a pacific setup?? Or did i miss it?? I've only been flying in this game for about 3 weeks and im loving it so far.. it's kinda on the addicting side..:D
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Originally posted by Platano
one thing though.... do you have a timetable more or less of when we will be flying in a pacific setup?? Or did i miss it?? I've only been flying in this game for about 3 weeks and im loving it so far.. it's kinda on the addicting side..:D
Fork and Sable (and any other interested parties!) are working on a PAC RPS schedule now.
- oldman
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Originally posted by Platano
it's kinda on the addicting side.. :D
Welcome into perdition! :D You won't find any drug more addicting than this! :)
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I reloaded the tables and reset all the airfields again this morning. Something was amiss, for sure. Hope it's OK now. Please post here if you encounter any problems.
- oldman
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this map is great, any chance we can make the water in the MA look like water in this one? Much better than the grey carpet.
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You know about the animated water check box dont you Spiffing? Turns the grey carpet nice and blue.
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Originally posted by Slash27
You know about the animated water check box dont you Spiffing? Turns the grey carpet nice and blue.
I don't think that's it, though, because I don't have it checked (destroys my frame rates) and I notice a difference. Possibly it's the tiles the mapmakers choose?
- oldman
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I'll check to see what that does, I always left it alone thinking it would impact performance. I'll see what happens. I do think it's a different design altogether, nice one too.
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Originally posted by Oldman731
I don't think that's it, though, because I don't have it checked (destroys my frame rates) and I notice a difference. Possibly it's the tiles the mapmakers choose?
- oldman
Yes, it not the animated water option on this map. They just did a great job making it look good.
I dont use the animated water option either due to perfomance issues.