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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: boozed on March 14, 2006, 12:03:59 AM
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The B-29 was a major part of WWII airpower!!! You should be able to fly a set of 29's for free, the Enola Gay should be 1000 perkies!!! When you drop fat man, it should level a base and a town, even if you kinda miss, or a whole strat base, capitol, ect....
(downtown) used to be boozed
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It's been requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested.............
Search the forum first, please.
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I GET TO DO IT THIS TIME! :D :D :D
(http://www.shelteringwings.com/n00k.gif)
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NO YOU DON"T GET IT!!! I NEED THE B-29!!!!!!! GIVE ME b-29's RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think we need a B29 before any other aircraft. It's to important not to model it next.
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Originally posted by teh pwnrship
no
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Originally posted by boozed
The B-29 was a major part of WWII airpower!!! You should be able to fly a set of 29's for free, the Enola Gay should be 1000 perkies!!! When you drop fat man, it should level a base and a town, even if you kinda miss, or a whole strat base, capitol, ect....
(downtown) used to be boozed
WOW!!!!! He asked for the B-29 and the N00k in one post!!!!!!
NO NUKES, NO NUKES, NO NUKES:D
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This must be the best requests since years!
Why didn't anyone else think of the B-29?
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Originally posted by frank3
This must be the best requests since years!
Why didn't anyone else think of the B-29?
:lol what request number is this anyone keeping track?
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We stopped counting after celebrating it's 1000st
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You get the Super Fortress when we get F-86s and MiGs Yeotch!
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I believe that was the B-36 era?
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Originally posted by OOZ662
I GET TO DO IT THIS TIME! :D :D :D
i dont know whats more scary....
the fact i made that or the fact that someone actually saved it for later use!!
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Originally posted by ThunderEGG
It's been requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested.............
Search the forum first, please.
And it will continue to be requested. Animated drawings which denigrate both gv's and bombers do nothing but show disrespect for anyone not in the cockpit of a fighter. As this is a war simulation and not a fighter simulation, it also shows a profound ignorance of the purpose of the game.
Around 3,000 B-29's were produced by the end or WWII. Bombing raids used a great number of these bombers to do such things as night time fire bombings of Japan. In at least one mission up to 1,000 B-29's were used. Two nuclear bombs were dropped by B-29's. Only two. Having the B-29 would not mean having nuclear bombs. If we did have a nuclear bomb option, it would have to be perked to an unbelievable level. So high it would not be commonly used at all. Choose the nuclear option for a bomb and you lose the perks when you drop the bomb.
While the B-29 was a late addition to WWII, if added, it would hardly be the only such addition. Many of the fighter aircraft in AH2 were late additions to WWII.
The greatest opposition to the B-29 being introduced to the game is its formidable nature. Two ventral turrets each with twin .50 caliber machine guns. Two dorsal turrets, one with twin 50's and the other with a quad .50 caliber setup. The tail gunnery position sported a twin 50 and a 20mm cannon. Add to this a payload capacity of 20,000 pounds and you have something to worry about. Not something that does not have a place in this game.
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Originally posted by Furball
i dont know whats more scary....the fact i made that or the fact that someone actually saved it for later use!!
You missed it... (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=171462)
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Originally posted by ThunderEGG
It's been requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested and requested.............
Search the forum first, please.
This is why we will be seeing these requests forever
Search results for 'B-29' (http://www.airmageddon.com/images/B-29SearchResults.JPG)
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Originally posted by APDrone
This is why we will be seeing these requests forever
Search results for 'B-29' (http://www.airmageddon.com/images/B-29SearchResults.JPG)
Ummm.....yeah. :o That's a good reason too. Forgot about that one.
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Try nookie!
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Doesn't a B-29 need something like a 10,000' runway for upping? How long are the runways in Aces High? Just make it so B-29s can only up from sea level airfields with 10,000' runways. Would be a successful mission to just take off as it is now. Maybe could have remote B-29 fields 200 miles away from another airfield. That would be a pretty big map though.
I think B-29s would be fun. The tailgunner position wasn't remote controlled and had a gunner. .50 cal x2 and a 20mm cannon...not bad for defense if the remote control problems with "coading" couldn't be worked out for the other gun positions, like with the Arado guns fired by periscope view.
I don't think a radial engine plane could go as high as a block style engine, like the 109 or Japanese equivalent KI-61 "Tony." P-51 could get there. B-29s could cruise at 38,000 feet, but how long does it take to get to that alt? Think how neat it would be to run into an enemy squadron patrol at 30,000 feet.
Man that would be fun!!!:D
Les
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Originally posted by Leslie
Doesn't a B-29 need something like a 10,000' runway for upping?
A loaded B-29 took approximately a 50 to 55 seconds take-off run to get airborne and many used 8,500 ft. of runway. (entire runway length)
Im not sure how long our runways are though
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Originally posted by ChopSaw
The greatest opposition to the B-29 being introduced to the game is its formidable nature. Two ventral turrets each with twin .50 caliber machine guns. Two dorsal turrets, one with twin 50's and the other with a quad .50 caliber setup. The tail gunnery position sported a twin 50 and a 20mm cannon. Add to this a payload capacity of 20,000 pounds and you have something to worry about. Not something that does not have a place in this game.
It would make a great field vultcher, and a great dive bomber and you could carpet bomb a field from one end to the other at a 1000 feet. At military power, which it would be run at it, would be faster than an other bomber. The other bombers could be eliminated. No noob would fly anything else. Deathstar indeed.:t
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I've read it's cruising speed was over 220mph (!!) with it's maximum speed being 300+
Take that to 30k and you'll be invinsible (maybe jets would come in handy here)
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B-29 should be here... although a nuke would be just plain ridiculous. BTW according to boeings website the service ceiling on a B-17 was 35k while the B-29 was just 31k.
And Oh yeah... Pacific Fighters has a B-29 :aok
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Then again, the B-29 was much heavier. And oh well, not many people can find the time to climb to 35k!
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Originally posted by frank3
A loaded B-29 took approximately a 50 to 55 seconds take-off run to get airborne and many used 8,500 ft. of runway. (entire runway length)
Im not sure how long our runways are though
Our runways in AH are a little over a mile (say, 6000-6500 feet?). Each "tile" is 1 square mile, and an airfield uses one full tile.
There's no way a B29 would be able to take off on AH runways. It would need 2-3 runways end to end just to do it.
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Originally posted by Lye-El
It would make a great field vultcher, and a great dive bomber and you could carpet bomb a field from one end to the other at a 1000 feet. At military power, which it would be run at it, would be faster than an other bomber. The other bombers could be eliminated. No noob would fly anything else. Deathstar indeed.:t
Because of its inherent power it would almost certainly be a perk plane which would put a damper on the situations you describe. Additionally I doubt even a B-52 could carpet bomb an entire airfield with enough ordnance to do significant damage. You could pick targets on multiple passes though. The same as current bombers.
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Originally posted by SuperDud
Try nookie!
i shoulda copyrighted that
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Originally posted by frank3
I've read it's cruising speed was over 220mph (!!) with it's maximum speed being 300+
Take that to 30k and you'll be invinsible (maybe jets would come in handy here)
I advocate the addition of the B-29 to the game, but I doubt you would see them at 30K on anything other than an HQ raid. It just takes too long to get there and when you do, you can't see many of the targets you want to hit.
I'd guess the 262's could have fun at that altitude, especially if they're shooting down a perked B-29. The 152 should also be a good choice for that altitude and of course the 163's could get there in a jiffy on the aforementioned HQ raids.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Our runways in AH are a little over a mile (say, 6000-6500 feet?). Each "tile" is 1 square mile, and an airfield uses one full tile.
There's no way a B29 would be able to take off on AH runways. It would need 2-3 runways end to end just to do it.
If the fields are a mile on each side, then a runway on the diagonal could be as long as 7,467 feet long under current conditions. I'm sure something could be worked out even if it meant extending runways.
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Also keep in mind that's just talking wheels up (lol) :)
Don't forget the time it takes to get 200 feet alt to clear the trees at the end of the runway, and forget even the gentlest of hills past the runway. There would be all of a 2% chance of taking off in this game with that plane, even if the runway WERE long enough (lol). Think of a lanc with full bombs and 100% gas. Or a b17 with the same. It's nearly impossible to take off.
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also keep in mind that it will come up against the TA-152 at that alt...
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psst ;)
Originally posted by ChopSaw
The 152 should also be a good choice for that altitude
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Might find one or two Ta152s up there, but not likely. More likely than not you'd just find 262s, p51s, p38s, p47s (Ns mainly, I bet), and maybe a masochistic 109k-4 or two...
Frankly, 30k means nobody is going to stop you, especially if you're going 350 AT 30k.
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You'd get 1 shot on the HO, but that's it :D
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I'd like to see B29s as well, never flown one in any game and always wanted one.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Might find one or two Ta152s up there, but not likely. More likely than not you'd just find 262s, p51s, p38s, p47s (Ns mainly, I bet), and maybe a masochistic 109k-4 or two...
Frankly, 30k means nobody is going to stop you, especially if you're going 350 AT 30k.
Finding bombers at 30K in anything but an HQ raid is as unlikely now as it would be with B-29's. There are posts here indicating how much runway this thing needs to even get off the ground. I should imagine that it's climb performance is lower than that of the Lancaster. Who would want to put that much time into bombing a town, city, hangers or whatever aside from an HQ. Even if you could find people to do it, they'd be sidelined simply by the amount of time they took to get into position. 30K B-29's just wouldn't be that frequent a problem. Look as how few even go to 20K right now with faster climbing bombers.
Bye the way, last time I did an HQ run we were at 25K and somehow a 110 was up there to meet us. We suspect a tip-off, but it goes to show what can get up there and play with you if the effort is worthwhile enough for them. If it were me going up that high, I'd take the 152 or a 262. Better high altitude performance. The Ta152 in particular was designed for high altitude interception.
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as much as it has been denied, it would be worth the bomber perks.
and because we have a b29 doesnt mean we have to have nooks for it.
we do have daytime without nighttime
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I think nukes shouldn't be added at all. Just because it CAN carry one, doesn't mean they always did...
I mean, how many nukes were trown anyway? (by B-29's)
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Originally posted by ChopSaw
If it were me going up that high, I'd take the 152 or a 262. Better high altitude performance. The Ta152 in particular was designed for high altitude interception.
You got enough fighter perks for a 262? The TA152 would play hell trying to catch a B-29 going 300mph I would think, plus trying to climb above it at the same time. It's also a perk plane.
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Originally posted by Lye-El
You got enough fighter perks for a 262? The TA152 would play hell trying to catch a B-29 going 300mph I would think, plus trying to climb above it at the same time. It's also a perk plane.
Mehhh take a free p47n 433 mph at 30k with no wep, 470 with wep.
Bronk
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Or take the Me-163, 600mph at 30k :D
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That's teh uber shades. Total trollzorz. What guy with 2 posts puts 3 exclamation marks after requesting the B29 except a troollll???!!!? SON OF A ....
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Who cares. He's talking about the B29!!!
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Welcome to the club :D
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Originally posted by Lye-El
You got enough fighter perks for a 262? The TA152 would play hell trying to catch a B-29 going 300mph I would think, plus trying to climb above it at the same time. It's also a perk plane.
No, I don't have enough perk points for a 262. I don't fly fighters often enough to have accumulated them, but I'm sure a lot of the fighter guys have.
You'd be the better judge of the 152's capabilities, I suppose. Like I said, I don't fly fighters that often. In fact my experience with the 152 is limited and is from way back in AH1. I had understood them to be specifically designed for high altitude work. Using a perk plane to shoot down what will certainly be a perk plane seems fair.
Bronk seems to feel the P47N would be a good choice. If his statistics are correct, I'd have to say he's right and like he said, that's a perk free plane.
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Originally posted by SuperDud
Who cares. He's talking about the B29!!!
I'm glad you've decided to get on board with this. Welcome.