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Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Mister Fork on March 15, 2006, 01:11:46 PM
Gents,

We have several maps we can use for the RPS.  
- Coral Sea
- Okinawa
- Rangoon
- Slot

Two possible scenarios we can run with:
- 1939-1945: Britian and the Commonwealth (Canada, New Zealand, & Australia) vs Japan OR
- 1941-1945: United States vs. Japan

Options:
- combine the Commonwealth battle with Japan with the American battle
- keep each PTO battle seperate

What I would like to hear are some setup options for the PTO. Run around 3 weeks.  Map use should be at a minimum for one week.  Maps can be used more than once, to represent different years and PTO progressions.

Before we post our proposal, I would like ideas on how you think it would work.
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: storch on March 15, 2006, 02:18:48 PM
why not do both?  one part of the map for the spits the other for wildcats and so on. three weeks might be a little long for a PAC set up though, they just aren't that popular usually.
Title: Re: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Furball on March 15, 2006, 02:54:22 PM
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
Britian



:mad: :furious :mad: :furious :mad:
Title: Re: Re: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Oldman731 on March 15, 2006, 03:24:10 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
:mad: :furious :mad: :furious :mad:

He's Canadian, it was probably intentional.

- oldman
Title: Re: Re: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Grits on March 15, 2006, 04:39:48 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
:mad: :furious :mad: :furious :mad:


Yeah, the correct name is "Land of Never ending rain and people with bad teeth".
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Mister Fork on March 15, 2006, 09:00:19 PM
:rofl Britian...hehehe  got me AGAIN.  

We could include Britain, but it's a PITA to setup two different countries map wise - it's a lot harder to program the airfields and manage rolling in new aircraft. One combined force works.

But we could do USAAF/USN vs IJN/IJA for a time set, then jump to the Commonwealth vs IJN/IJA, but why not run with USAAF/USN vs IJN for two weeks then another PTO vs the Brits?
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Shifty on March 16, 2006, 08:51:24 AM
Just an idea, but it might be nice to start a setup without the RAF, just once.
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Bruv119 on March 16, 2006, 10:52:35 AM
"would be nice to have a setup without the RAF"


there  would be no setup without them.  



Bruv

~S~  The Few
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Shifty on March 16, 2006, 11:07:37 AM
Yes there would be.

You can start a PTO without the RAF very easily.
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Mister Fork on March 16, 2006, 09:59:44 PM
RPS: USA vs Japan


Day 1 - War Begins - Day of Infamy December 7, 1941
Map: Hawaii (sub Okinawa)
IJN CV Groups
A6M2
B5N2
D3A-1
LVT's
PT Boats

Pearl Harbour USAAF
P-40E
C-47E

I was thining about this timeline. Start with Pearl Harbour - work our way through two or three maps representing several important battlelines, introducing aircraft as they became available...
Title: Re: Re: Re: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Furball on March 17, 2006, 01:43:05 AM
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Originally posted by Grits
Yeah, the correct name is "Land of Never ending rain and people with bad teeth".


thats not true, it stopped raining once.
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Platano on March 17, 2006, 10:30:08 AM
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Originally posted by Bruv119
"would be nice to have a setup without the RAF"


there  would be no setup without them.  



Bruv

~S~  The Few




It would  be nice just for once to not have to fight a spit or a hurricane.... In the pacific theater lets try to keep as historical as possible. What do people think of when they hear the words " battle of the pacific"? They think of Zero's Vs Corsairs and Hellcats... They think of USAAF/USN vs IJNAF...

after all if even a Duxford boy says it would be nice for a little change I think that means it's time for a change...  I think some people can agree that seeing nothing but Spits, hurris, and seafires is getting a bit boring....

Bottom line its time to get rid of any RAF affilitation when thinking about setting up a Pacific theater...
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Shifty on March 17, 2006, 11:25:17 AM
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Originally posted by Platano


after all if even a Duxford boy says it would be nice for a little change I think that means it's time for a change...  I think some people can agree that seeing nothing but Spits, hurris, and seafires is getting a bit boring....

 


Didnt you see my avatar. I'm not a Duxford boy. I'm a Duxford Old Geezer!:D

I guess it depends on where your from. To me the early PTO brings visions of P-40's P-39s', and F4F's, against Zekes, and Oscars, around the Philipenes, and the Solomons. To a guy from the UK it may bring visions of Hurri's, and Buffalos, against Zekes, and Oscars , around Singapore, and Rangoon.
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: republic on March 17, 2006, 11:55:58 AM
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Originally posted by Platano
It would  be nice just for once to not have to fight a spit or a hurricane....


Amen to that!

Quote
Originally posted by Platano
What do people think of when they hear the words " battle of the pacific"? They think of Zero's Vs Corsairs and Hellcats... They think of USAAF/USN vs IJNAF...
 


I agree.  A Pacific Campaign would have to rely heavily on US/Japanese carrier based aircraft, to truly represent the past.
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Platano on March 17, 2006, 01:04:38 PM
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Originally posted by Shifty
Didnt you see my avatar. I'm not a Duxford boy. I'm a Duxford Old Geezer!



sorry bout that..my mistake
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Shifty on March 17, 2006, 01:08:17 PM
The PTO should be a nice change for a while. Maybe the AvA crew will add a sub or two for the Axis to simulate the KI-45, and J2M........ Maybe?
Title: Re: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: E25280 on March 17, 2006, 01:54:10 PM
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
Two possible scenarios we can run with:
- 1939-1945: Britian and the Commonwealth (Canada, New Zealand, & Australia) vs Japan OR
- 1941-1945: United States vs. Japan


Umm . . . have to nitpick . . .

Britain and the Commonwealth were not at war with Japan until after Pearl Harbor.  Churchill had promised FDR that the UK would support the US in the event of a Japanese attack on US interests in the Pacific.  He kept his promise so well that the UK declared war with Japan before the US congress officially declared war themselves.

The only game action vs Japan that could be had before Pearl would be the P-40s of the AVF in China.

(Pick Pick Pick)
Title: Re: Re: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Oldman731 on March 17, 2006, 02:43:16 PM
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Originally posted by E25280
The only game action vs Japan that could be had before Pearl would be the P-40s of the AVF in China.

..er...if I'm not mistaken, the AVG's first combat occurred after Pearl Harbor.

- oldman
Title: Re: Re: Re: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Shifty on March 17, 2006, 03:02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Oldman731
..er...if I'm not mistaken, the AVG's first combat occurred after Pearl Harbor.

- oldman


Your correct.
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: Platano on March 17, 2006, 03:30:43 PM
I think we should just do 1941-45 Japan vs United States... and then later on we can do what ever you guys feels like doing... Hell if you wanna do RAF vs USAAF on American soil be my guest...  lol that woud be funny and interesting...
:rofl
Title: Re: Re: Re: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: E25280 on March 19, 2006, 02:02:37 AM
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Originally posted by Oldman731
..er...if I'm not mistaken, the AVG's first combat occurred after Pearl Harbor.

- oldman


Missed that particular nit . . . I stand corrected.

I have July '41 stuck in my head.  I think that is when the first group left for China.
Title: Some temporary changes
Post by: Oldman731 on March 19, 2006, 09:54:08 PM
Somehow the map got porked tonight.  Until Fork can straighten it out correctly, we have Japanese as Bishops and Allies as Rooks.  Should be workable enough.

I left a large island in NW of map as neutral Knights, to minimize porking opportunities.  Please do not bomb it.

- oldman
Title: Next RPS: Pacific Theatre of Operations
Post by: jaluka on March 20, 2006, 01:26:50 PM
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Originally posted by Platano
I think we should just do 1941-45 Japan vs United States... and then later on we can do what ever you guys feels like doing... Hell if you wanna do RAF vs USAAF on American soil be my guest...  lol that woud be funny and interesting...
:rofl


That would be hilarious darned good fun.  Just imagine P38's and Mossies at 20 paces turn and FIRE