Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on March 15, 2006, 02:28:57 PM
-
put it down - the quicker the better
may Carlie rest in peace
-
:huh
-
Originally posted by Sandman
:huh
Carlie Brucia's Killer Sentenced to Death for 11-Year-Old's Murder (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,187948,00.html)
-
And 19 years later, after oodles of our tax dollars are spent on various appeals, he *might* actually be executed
-
To hell with him, literally. Another dead coke head. Boo hoo hoo. :mad:
-
a quick death is too good for him, i keep thinking how scared that little kid must have been before he killed her.
-
well lethal injection is a slow painful death
-
Only if the painkillers wear off.
Hang him.
Nice and public.
On the courthouse lawn.
At noon.
-
Design a special prison uniform for child molesters and child killers. Let everyone know about the uniform. Put him in it and then release him to the general prison population.
-
Originally posted by Maverick
Design a special prison uniform for child molesters and child killers. Let everyone know about the uniform. Put him in it and then release him to the general prison population.
As absolutely wonderful as that sounds, it will be judged as a violation of their civil rights, and cruel and unusual punishment. The cons know who the pedophiles are, that's why they're kept segregated and protected. No special uniforms are needed.
My father got in serious trouble when he was superintendent of a local jail. It seems a trustee "accidentally" left a door open between the general population and the segregated area. There was one pedophile in there, and he spent several months in the hospital, a couple or more in intensive care. The guards were a little slow to react. That was some 35 years or so ago. He got demoted, suspended without pay, and transfered. And he was actually on vacation when it happened. But it was "his" jail. Took him a couple of years to recover his position and such, and he quit before he could retire.
-
How is lethal injection "slow and painful"? Maybe a wrongly done hanging as they strangle to death, or the gas chamber, slow and painful enough for you? The injections they give you do many things. First they give you about 5000 MG of anasthetic, 150MG is standard for surgical procedures. Next, they inject a paralyzing substance to cause the muscle to relax, stopping the diaphragm and lungs, then the toxic agent is injected, which interrupts electrical signals to the heart, causing cardiac arrest. Toxic agent isn't used in all states, however.
In no way is it slow and painful. Compared to past execution methods, they should be glad to get lethal injection. There is always the options of gas chamber, firing squad, hanging, or the electric chair.
-
Virgil,
I know it wouldn't fly as a valid method, it just sounds "fair" and would use the services of a population that has no other valid use to society.
As far as the lethal injection being cruel....I doubt that the recipients of it were as careful of their victims feelings when they murdered them. Lethal injection is very painless and fast compared to stabbing, shooting, strangulation, beating etc. etc. that brought the convict, after a trial, into the chamber.
The injection technique is used as a means of putting animals down and after seeing euthanasia personally I have no doubt it is far far more merciful to a convicted murderer than anything the convict did for their victims.
-
Originally posted by nirvana
How is lethal injection "slow and painful"? Maybe a wrongly done hanging as they strangle to death, or the gas chamber, slow and painful enough for you? The injections they give you do many things. First they give you about 5000 MG of anasthetic, 150MG is standard for surgical procedures. Next, they inject a paralyzing substance to cause the muscle to relax, stopping the diaphragm and lungs, then the toxic agent is injected, which interrupts electrical signals to the heart, causing cardiac arrest. Toxic agent isn't used in all states, however.
In no way is it slow and painful. Compared to past execution methods, they should be glad to get lethal injection. There is always the options of gas chamber, firing squad, hanging, or the electric chair.
lethal injection takes about 10 minutes to die I think , yeah they do put you to sleeo before they deliver the dose but it would be painful mentally
-
The method of death is not the punishment; death is the punishment. Have we forgotten that? Kill him quickly and painlessly for all I care, just so long as he is dead. If we scale the method of death to the gruesomeness of the crime, we become little better than the killer himself.
-- Todd/Leviathn
-
Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Have we forgotten that?
Apparently.
-
3-18 minutes Raider, and how is it mentally painful? Perhaps as the criminal held his hands to his victims throat until the victim died, watching the criminal, unmercilessly take a life. Or as the criminal bludgeons the victim to death. Sets fire to the victim, drowns the victim. How can you live in Texas and call lethal injection cruel and unusual? It's more cruel for the injector i'd think. They know what they did and they know they will have to pay. Perhaps looking forward to Ol' Sparky isn't as cruel and unusual...
-
yeah this dude deserves to die but haven't they executed inocent people before where they found out they were inocent but the people were already sleeping with the worms
-
Nice change of subject. Yes, mistakes happen, that's why most on death row will die in prison going through apellate courts before they actually hit the ejection seat and pull the cord. Who's fault is it though?
-
They executed a man in Tx yesterday why wasn't that on CNN he was a former marine
-
Because people die every day, former Marines included. You do the crime, you do the time.
-
Why should it be on CNN?
-
:rolleyes: yeah CNN only focus on bad news did you watch CNN yesterday between 12-3pm central time they just started covering a situation about a construction worker dangling 60 ft. in the air by a rope and then they cut and showed a live police chase in L.A. guess they thought that was more important they exaggeratedly talked about the chase a lot
-
Are you saying the completion of the sentence on the ex-Marine is "good news" that we all should hear about?
What is your point with that?
-
Dallas Morning News (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/031606dntexexecute.16ca0fd6.html)
-
Have some Huge Ghey weight lifter repeatingly rape him orally and anally for hours on end then kill him slowly and toss his body behind some Church.
Let him die as slowly and painfully as Carlie did.
Mac
-
I understood that an ex-Marine had been executed in Texas from your post.
The part I didn't understand, and still don't understand, is this:
They executed a man in Tx yesterday why wasn't that on CNN he was a former marine
Are you complaining that it wasn't on CNN? Why do you think it should be on CNN?
They just carried out the sentence.
-
well CNN usually concentrates on all bad news so I thought it would have been on there
-
Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
The method of death is not the punishment; death is the punishment. Have we forgotten that? Kill him quickly and painlessly for all I care, just so long as he is dead. If we scale the method of death to the gruesomeness of the crime, we become little better than the killer himself.
-- Todd/Leviathn
^ What the spit dweeb said.
-
The method of death is not the punishment; death is the punishment. Have we forgotten that? Kill him quickly and painlessly for all I care, just so long as he is dead. If we scale the method of death to the gruesomeness of the crime, we become little better than the killer himself.
No, WRONG!
What is a punishment if they can't feel it?
It's like going to ground a teenager for something, but never really grounding him.
This is a punishment that should be feared, and feared rightly so because it should be painful, public, and embarassing. Only when we really start to execute murderers, and do it this way will it be a deterrant.
-
Originally posted by lasersailor184
No, WRONG!
What is a punishment if they can't feel it?
[/b]
Doesn't he have an eternity to "feel" it? Our goal is hastening him to that end and removing him as a threat to society. I find it frankly astonishing that you think death is not punishment enough. What greater punishment can one face?
It's like going to ground a teenager for something, but never really grounding him.
[/b]
What lesson are you trying to teach him right before you kill him? You aren't teaching him anything, as you are merely satisfying your own bizarre bloodlust. Sort of, you know, like he was doing when he murdered the girl.
-- Todd/Leviathn
-
Originally posted by RAIDER14
well CNN usually concentrates on all bad news so I thought it would have been on there
I'll repeat a question asked earlier. Why would that be bad news? What is your point or do you have one at all?
-
well a execution is both kinds of news becuase the people that hate the guy want him to get the needle which is good news for them and the people that like the guy his family,friends,supporters do not really want him to die so that is bad news for them
but CNN wins either way with the rateings
-
OK so you didn't have a point after all.
-
Doesn't he have an eternity to "feel" it? Our goal is hastening him to that end and removing him as a threat to society. I find it frankly astonishing that you think death is not punishment enough. What greater punishment can one face?
Whether or not he has eternity to "Feel" it is debatable.
Hastening him to an end and protecting society is a bad argument for the death penalty. I don't give a flying **** if he dies 10 ms after he commits a terrible crime.
What I do care about is that he is in pain for a terrible thing he has done. That way all those who are willing to commit murder would know that we are willing to truly punish them in the future.
There are much worse pains then death...
-
Hang him. Let his body swing from the rope one entire day, then burn his remains. Dispose of the him secure in the knowledge that one miserable evil human being will never harm another child again.
I hope his trip to hell sucks really bad.
-
Originally posted by lasersailor184
What I do care about is that he is in pain for a terrible thing he has done. That way all those who are willing to commit murder would know that we are willing to truly punish them in the future.
Those who commit murder probably think they're going to get away with it, or they don't care about the punishment in any event. Newsflash: people still murdered and raped in abundance back in medieval times when the sorts of draconian measures you espouse enjoyed their heyday. I'm also not clear how making the killing public somehow increases the pain and suffering of the perpetrator. What it does do is satisfy the sort of sick, depraved bloodlust that both the killer and you seem so happy and willing to fulfill.
Those who commit murder, and in particular those who commit heinous, premeditated homicide have willingly given up their right to remain members of society. They are a cancer that we as a society excise because they pose a risk to the safety of others and because their very existence is anathema to all we consider civilized. If we revel in their pain, and if we see pain as their punishment rather than death itself, then we become little better than the killers.
-- Todd/Leviathn
-
I want him dead asap so his sorry arse isn't supported by one penny of my tax $$'s one ms longer than it has to be ..
as for his punishment, karma is a wicked mo-fo
it doesn't forget or forgive
-
Just put 'em down like you would a rabid coyote. Do it and be done.
-
Like Eagler said, throw 'em in the pooper and quit wasting tax dollars.
(Oooh I can say MY tax dollars because I pay taxes now:( )