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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: EN4CER on March 16, 2006, 07:41:35 AM
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I’m considering on venturing into the Radio Controlled (RC) Model Aircraft Scene. After doing considerable research on the internet I am thinking about making the following purchase.
ALF202 Alfa Model P-51D Mustang ARF RC Plane
33-1/2" wingspan, 29" long, 192 sq. in. wing area, 15 oz. flying weight. Just about ready to fly when you open the box. Wing is removable for transport and storage in its box "hanger". Leading edge of wing is reinforced and battery hatch is in front of the canopy. Hollow molded foam with a hardened surface to resist dings and hard plastic where the model contacts the ground. Firewall installed and ready for motor. Wing is semi-symmetrical as is the elevator, the model flies like a much larger model, smooth and responsive and is capable of performing in the wind. Hand launch is easy with a good grip area under the wing. Waterslide decals for 2 authentic aircraft are included. For 3 channels: elevator, aileron, speed control.
Radio System:
HTR48725 Hitec Neon 3 SS, Micro 05 Receiver, 2 HS-55 Servos
Connectors:
MJ20221 3 Wire Connection Set for Brushless, 2.5mm
Brushless Controller:
JESAP18W Jeti Advance PLUS 18 Amp Brushless Controller with Program
Prop:
P09060SF 9x6 Slowflyer Prop
LiPoly Battery Pack:
TP13203 3 Cell 11.1V 1320 mAh Li-Poly Pack
LiPoly Charger:
ETC2500 Li-Poly Smart Charger for 1-4 Cells
Entire Kit runs under $500.
RC Warbird Site (http://www.hobby-lobby.com/warbirds.htm)
Just curious if any has some expertise in this area. Gas vs. Electric. Advice appreciated.
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If you don't know how to fly rc yet, your first plane should be a trainer, something that you can afford to crash every 3 minutes, not a $500 scale.
And if I was gonna go scale, I would go with the Flying Styros, they look better.
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Check out hobbyzonesports.com , they sell nice trainers $150-$190 and cheap replaceable parts for them. Their trainers also have cool features like auto recovery, dropable bombs, parachutist and ultrasonic combat module.
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BEFORE you buy that nice trainer you'll wreck (and yes...you will crash!) purchase Realflight G3.
It's an R/C simulator that comes with a controller that you can either use or an interlink that you can plug into your actual controller from your PC.
You will crash hundreds of times saving thousands of dollars and when you're finally ready to head out to the field you'll be prepared and have at least an opportunity to survive :)
Realflight (http://www.realflight.com)
Your best bet for purchase is either tower hobbies or ebay.
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I never crashed the first trainer I bought. A gust of wind caught it and it was carried away, never to be seen again. For all I know the blasted thing is still flying around out there somewhere.
My second trainer was also my last RC plane, as I found that I was bored with flying it once I figured out how to not crash it every other flight.
J_A_B
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Yeah, you're gonna crash. I'd suggest something cheap and high wing. And get something ready-to-fly, or as close to it as possible. That way when you crash you won't feel so bad about all the time you spent building it.
Don't get something too light and foamy though, unless you have a place to fly that has NO wind.
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Ebay Results (http://toys.search.ebay.com/Radio-Controlled-Aircraft_Toys-Hobbies_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8QQsacatZ220)
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Originally posted by Golfer
BEFORE you buy that nice trainer you'll wreck (and yes...you will crash!) purchase Realflight G3.
It's an R/C simulator that comes with a controller that you can either use or an interlink that you can plug into your actual controller from your PC.
You will crash hundreds of times saving thousands of dollars and when you're finally ready to head out to the field you'll be prepared and have at least an opportunity to survive :)
Realflight (http://www.realflight.com)
Your best bet for purchase is either tower hobbies or ebay.
I wish I would have had this 15 years ago when I tried to fly Rc aircraft.
I spent $500 bucks on a plane that took three months to build only to fly for 90 secs before it became kindlin. I had to dig the motor out of the ground with a shovel:rofl :rofl
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if you really wanna go high dollar get 1 of these (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1022675629959483801&q=concorde) :eek:
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I bet that would make expensive kindling........
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B52 (http://www.alexisparkinn.com/r_c_b-52_crash.htm)
check this out
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Originally posted by EN4CER
I�m considering on venturing into the Radio Controlled (RC) Model Aircraft Scene. After doing considerable research on the internet I am thinking about making the following purchase.
ALF202 Alfa Model P-51D Mustang ARF RC Plane
Check with Pacfan, he wont admit it but I know I saw him on TV at an RC air contest.
Talk about skills?, see if pacfan will share some pics because his planes are amazing in every repesct.
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If you dig scale planes check out these pics.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_509567/tm.htm
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Definately go with a "trainer" model to begin with. I prefer high or "shoulder" wing but there are also some decent low wing trainers out there. Lots of dihedral, big thick semi-symmetrical wing. I learned on gas and still prefer it due to longer flight times, but electric is a lot cleaner and if you buy a bunch of batteries and a charger that will run off of your car battery, you can still get a nearly continuous full day of flying instead of 10 min flight time for each hour or so of charge.
I suggest something that uses between a .25 and .40 motor, on the theory that although larger planes are often more stable, they can be intimidating and that isn't good. I learned on a .25 powered high-wing trainer and did fine.
Also, don't waste too much money on a fancy schmancy radio. Get a decent 5 or 6 channel radio but don't go overboard on features. If you outgrow it, you want one that is actually worth something used or you'll be happy keeping around as a radio for a second model. 4 ch radios are not a good purchase in my opinion unless you're on a very strict budget.
If you don't have a local club to help you learn, you definately want to practice first with one of the PC simulators. Even then, you'll probably wreck a few times. If you don't have an instructor handy, consider getting a motorglider for your first model. They fly a lot slower and are easier to see so a novice will probably have a better chance of learning without an instructor. I knew a guy who taught himself to fly with a 6 ft wingspan motorglider...
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I can't speak highly enough for JK Aerotech (http://www.jkaerotech.com) and their product.
Easy to build, easy to fly and bullet proof. I had an F4U 2610 airplane survive a mid-air with a canadian goose. Threw on a new prop and it flew the same day with no repairs needed after falling maybe 100 feet.
Had the goose for dinner the next night.
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As mentioned here, do not buy a P51 for a first plane. Buy a trainer. You will crash it. A trainer is much more stable, and you will not be a hot stick right off the bat. Work your way up to the flight modeling of a warbird. You will not start there.
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JK Aerotech's trainer is as good as they come. Small engine and sips fuel.
I have a P-51 that was radar gunned at over 150mph. The airplane weighs less than 4 pounds with a .60 motor up front with a custom muffler/tuned pipe. That'll put a hole in a roof :)
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There's only one thing you really need to know - stay away from electrics. They suck & batteries are for suckers and fancy lads who fluff about on sailboats.
Hello Hangipoo!
:D
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LOL...
I haven't a single gay electric toy. I don't even have an electric shaver. The smallest plane I own has a 7 foot wingspan, weighs 18 pounds, and swings an 20" prop with a GAS engine. These are AIRCRAFT. Not toys. And certainly not shake 'n bake pre-built cookie cutter stamped toys for the 'gee, i'm tired of video games and want to go outside and play' crowd.
After making batteries all damn day the last thing I ever wanna hear is the shriek of an electric powered DF or prop pushing a freaking packing peanut refugee around a soccer field or (even worse) some myopic tree hugging liberal twit with more money than time or brains asking "is the red wire important?".
pfffft.
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LOL, so what yer saying is that I don't know what the **** I'm talking about. OK, well maybe. :D
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... and I had ta sell the boat to buy the welder.
;)
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LOL @ elec comments...
I'm a "real" RC flyer/modeller (at least I was a few years ago) and I'm seriously considering getting an elec helo and maybe even an elec plane to help keep me in the hobby until I have the time / workspace to get back into the hobby. I can't spread CA and model fuel/oil all over my wife's $5000 antique dining table but I sure as heck can tape up a foamy model and do some minor wiring work on that table, so the gas planes stay boxed up for now.
In case you're wondering, when it comes to antiques a blob of CA glue on a table is "destruction" and a minor soldering iron burn is "adding character" :)
The RC engine purists can shove their tuned pipes up their ***. Been there, done that, it's fun and I have the .70 surpass to prove it, but it's not the only game in town. :huh
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I got an Aerobird challenger, according to squaddy (Hawk68, guy has some NICE planes) they are pieces of ****. It's a trainer though and it took probably 10 nose dives before i started chipping away at the wing. Wings are relatively inexpensive though, so no biggy. That plane can take a pounding but can't fly for ****.
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Originally posted by eagl
LOL @ elec comments...
I'm a "real" RC flyer/modeller (at least I was a few years ago) and I'm seriously considering getting an elec helo and maybe even an elec plane to help keep me in the hobby until I have the time / workspace to get back into the hobby. I can't spread CA and model fuel/oil all over my wife's $5000 antique dining table but I sure as heck can tape up a foamy model and do some minor wiring work on that table, so the gas planes stay boxed up for now.
In case you're wondering, when it comes to antiques a blob of CA glue on a table is "destruction" and a minor soldering iron burn is "adding character" :)
The RC engine purists can shove their tuned pipes up their ***. Been there, done that, it's fun and I have the .70 surpass to prove it, but it's not the only game in town. :huh
Gawd, I'd rather fly electric than glow. (I'd wear shades and a hat, walk with a limp and borrow my wife's volvo so I'd not draw attention) Flying GAS on the other hand is an absolute joy.. no messy glop on the plane, sounds like a real engine (not a dremel) and no starter, glow driver or constant fiddling with the mixture. Just gas it up, flip that massive prop and it coughs to life, just like a real gawdamned airplane engine should.
Here's my SE5a, 19 pounds of pure joy. 56 minutes on a tank of gas (32oz tank)
(http://www.hangtimes.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/SE5Static.jpg)
(http://www.hangtimes.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/SE5flying.jpg)
Get REAL. Fly Gas. ;)
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Wow I've just falled in love with an RC plane! Terrific build, Hang.
(Just a question, tho: how many 'Curse you, Red Baron!!' moments have you had while flying it ;) ?)
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Electric RC = Terrarists have won!
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Originally posted by Hangtime
sounds like a real engine (not a dremel)
So, instead of a dremel, it sounds like...a lawnmower. Looks like we need some testosterone injected into this here thread. :D
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Hows this?
(http://www.hangtimes.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Flying_picture_and_Florida_107.jpg)
That's Yuri Higuchi.. nut job of a pilot. Does aerobatic manuvers that ain't even named yet. Cost me about a grand in sponsorship money and packs to get that bird set up for him. And it takes plenty of testosterone and a healthy dallop of skill to do the **** he does with that plane. DA150 for power, and it sure don't sound like any lawnmower you ever saw. ;)
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Cool planes, Hangtime. I like the Spad better myself, a very nice looker. But that's not what I was referring to. ;)
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That's entirely too big for my taste. What makes rc toys cool is the miniaturization. I think that guy wants to fly real planes or something.
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The thing about big scale planes is they fly better. Air molecules being what they are, 'n all.. ;)
Now, electric foamies are hoot, more fun per buck than you can imagine if you get a 3 of 4 guys doing pylon racing and stuff... it's just that dental drills with wings ain't my cuppa tea.
OTOH, when we get 3-4 Giant Warbirds up.. well; lets just say we've taken it to a much higher level of realism and risk.. kinda gets and holds your attention, if yah know what I mean. ;)
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Like every says. Do not waste you money on a high end rig until you are ready for it.
Before buying anything, you really should check out local R/C clubs. Many of them have trainers laying around or for sale, cheap, due to new people starting up and moving on to bigger and better.
I have run into many people who want to fly/pilot R/C planes. Most of them sink money into it, not paying attention to the advice they have been freely given and they give up cause it, costs too much, they cannot fly a super-cool-super-fast-super plane without crashing it, it costs too much, takes a lot of patience, it costs too much, they are afraid to ask for help, and it costs too much.
Hook up with a local R/C club. It is the best way to get started. Do not be afraid of being ignorant. Everyone in this hobby started out ignorant. No matter what you think you know about flying and piloting, you still have a lot to learn about R/C flying.
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Geez, from flying F-15s to RC aircraft. Isn't that like going from sleeping with Monica Belucci to...well, SOB.
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I started with a 6 ft wing span glider (Piece 'o' Cake) powered with an .049, with rudder and elev only. Very easy to fly, wing rubber bands on the fuse, so its forgiving. It helps if you enjoy building. Much fun and satisfaction :)
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As far as RC clubs...I actually don't like them too much. There's a lot to learn there, no doubt, but it kind of gets in the way of the pure fun of it. I preferred heading to a dry lake with some friends and learning on our own. Of course I probably crashed more than I would have at a club with an instructor, but it was more fun IMO.
But this only works if you have a desert to escape to. :)
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Thank you guys all for the input – much appreciated. In case you were wondering – I went out and purchased an ARF Plane for under $100 (3 Channel). I was told it was a good beginner’s model to start out with. Needless to say I crashed it 10 sec into my first flight (Augered the snot out of it). Regardless – I enjoyed it very much and it will be something I’ll get more involved with. Can’t wait to jabbo the neighbors dogs (Just Kidding). Thanks again.
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My dads got that realflight game with the controller, fun as hell, plus you can do hammerheads and stuff.
I want to do hammerheads here.:(
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Hangtime's photo reminds of an incident with an model aircraft. It was flying in a park in Dublin when the receiver battery ran down and the model flew away. It was later discovered on a taxyway at Dublin Airport by the pilot of a 737 (A real one) having made a passable landing after it ran out of fuel. Quite a coincidence considering all the places it could have landed. :confused:
Report here
http://www.aaiu.ie/AAIUviewitem.asp?id=3606&lang=ENG&loc=1280 (http://www.aaiu.ie/AAIUviewitem.asp?id=3606&lang=ENG&loc=1280)
What was interesting is that one of the conclusions of the report was that the model should have been registered as a full size aircraft because it's wingspan was greater than two metres just like the one in the picture.
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Here we have a weight restriction.. 55lbs all up. We can go over on the weight, but the aircraft then requires specialzed certification and the flight area has to be secured via specialized insurance waviers.
Further.. here we fly under an organizational umbrella that provides insurance to clubs and representation in Washington that coordinates frequency assignments and basic saftey certifcation of flying sites. As a rule, operations in areas near airports are sharply controlled.
The advent of these new electic 'park flyers' has tossed a pretty good sized wrench into the works though; the mfg's and distributors of these toys promote them as 'backyard flyers' and such. As a result, more and more folks are pulling 'em outta boxes and launching 'em in a vacant lot without the slightest clue as to basic saftey and airspace over homes and such taken into account. Flying an R/C plane ain't 'easy', and the results are sometimes less than what the 'traditional' flyers consider acceptable.. frequency encroachment on active channels at nearby certified flying sites, planes into traffic on roadways or into a little leauge game, thru house windows and up in trees on private property, just to name a few...
But, the worlds into 'instant gratification', and if the stuff is out there, folks are gonna buy it and try to fly it.. without insurance, basic instruction, or a clue in the world that what they are embarking on could just kill somebody.
*sigh*
And, that's why I'm not much of a 'fan' of the little electric toy airplanes.
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Are you talking about crap like this?
http://www.youtube.com/w/RC-Flyby%2C-Downtown-Dallas-TX?v=BLmkPnMaD6k
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Originally posted by Suave
Are you talking about crap like this?
http://www.youtube.com/w/RC-Flyby%2C-Downtown-Dallas-TX?v=BLmkPnMaD6k
What a dummy flying around building that close.
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Are there airspace rules for RC A/C?
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found a vid of that RC B-52.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1017616054778149447&q=b52
also found something more interesting.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1380642903108144015&q=flying+lawnmower
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EN4CER
Mate....go to your local club join up and get an instructor to help out .....
It will save you lots of dosh that you could otherwise have saved for that scale warbird :)T
Electrics are good , lot less bother ....though more pricey ...
I dont build em myself .....im afraid my woodwork tachar gave up on me when i was a kid so tend to buy ARTF stuff , so (touch wood ) i havent ahd a bad plane yet.
Anyway ....welcome to the hobby ...your wallet is never going to be the same again :)
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Originally posted by Golfer
BEFORE you buy that nice trainer you'll wreck (and yes...you will crash!) purchase Realflight G3.
It's an R/C simulator that comes with a controller that you can either use or an interlink that you can plug into your actual controller from your PC.
You will crash hundreds of times saving thousands of dollars and when you're finally ready to head out to the field you'll be prepared and have at least an opportunity to survive :)
Realflight (http://www.realflight.com)
Your best bet for purchase is either tower hobbies or ebay.
Hangtime should host a multiplayer and teach us how to crash without breaking things.
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LOL!
Here's the real deal.. if yah fly R/C yer gonna crash. It's inseperable from the reality of flying an aircraft from the ground and inseperable from the learning curve.
I tell folks flat out.. If yah can't handle the risk; take up stamp collecting or trains.
If Fly you must, Crash you will. If it makes yah feel any better, the SE5a's been mid-aired once and ground looped crosswind twice. Nice thing about BUILDING the model is that RE-BUILDING is no big freakin deal. ;)
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Yep yep. Crashing is going to happen. Do not think it will not. It will.
I remember when I crashed my precious F-15 the first time. An errant wind blast caught the left wing. Cartwheeled it on approach the first crash. All I could think of was all the material I was going to need to fix it again.
Fixed it. Second crash was during an avoidance manuever of a rather perturbed Great Dane who had gotten loose at the field.
If you let it get to you, you cannot enjoy the hobby.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Yep yep. Crashing is going to happen. Do not think it will not. It will.
I remember when I crashed my precious F-15 the first time. An errant wind blast caught the left wing. Cartwheeled it on approach the first crash. All I could think of was all the material I was going to need to fix it again.
Fixed it. Second crash was during an avoidance manuever of a rather perturbed Great Dane who had gotten loose at the field.
If you let it get to you, you cannot enjoy the hobby.
Skuzzy, do you have a pic of your f15? I would love to see it (I've only seen the kit and never seen one assembled)
Sorry, don't want to hijack this thread but, how did it handle too?
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Wasn't a kit. I built it from scratch. I was a real nit about scaling it to the ducted fan engines. I must have taken a thousand photos of every F-15 I could find to get all the information I needed.
It handled really well once I got all the kinks worked out. I weighted it so the thrust to weight ratios match the F15 pretty closely (with the P&W 58,000 lb thrust engines). A few years ago I put it away, but got the itch again and have it torn apart prepping it for an update to turbine engines. Still saving for those.
The Cg is going to be very different so I have to wait until I get the engines before recalculating it.
Once I get her air-worthy again, I plan on posting pics.
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Yah got big brass ones Skuz... Turbines are the shiznit. :aok
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Wasn't a kit. I built it from scratch. I was a real nit about scaling it to the ducted fan engines. I must have taken a thousand photos of every F-15 I could find to get all the information I needed.
It handled really well once I got all the kinks worked out. I weighted it so the thrust to weight ratios match the F15 pretty closely (with the P&W 58,000 lb thrust engines). A few years ago I put it away, but got the itch again and have it torn apart prepping it for an update to turbine engines. Still saving for those.
The Cg is going to be very different so I have to wait until I get the engines before recalculating it.
Once I get her air-worthy again, I plan on posting pics.
Glad to hear you are going to get her back in the air!
Look forward to seeing the photos!:aok
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I dunno if they are big, Hang. Kind of scares me a bit. They are very expensive, but have come a long way in the last couple of years, in terms of maintenance, care, and ease of use.
I saw a turbine based SR-71 one day and that sold me on them. It just aint right to hear those gas engines in a jet.
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Skuzzy....way cool!
When I was on alert in Iceland with our crew two of the guys (radio and flight engineer) built a Gee Bee and were getting all psyched to fly it.
TONS of fun and it was cool after 90 days of alert seeing the thing being built. The real fun started when we began flying it in the insane winds up there at Keflavik.......
Plane survived, we had fun, and it was a great time spender while on alert!
I dont think we could have approached the F15 though.....they were intermediate RC flyers....it was fun playing crew chief though!!!!
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I dunno if they are big, Hang. Kind of scares me a bit. They are very expensive, but have come a long way in the last couple of years, in terms of maintenance, care, and ease of use.
I saw a turbine based SR-71 one day and that sold me on them. It just aint right to hear those gas engines in a jet.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... but that's the point. With turbine power it sounds right, smells right, fly's scale-like, a riviting and exteremly gratifying experience just to WATCH one fly..
... And it requires a very well developed attention to detail and skill in building and engineering problem solving as well as ruthless skill on the sticks to get it right the first time AND keep it flying. Flying DF is tuff enuff.. turbines are like flying with yer hair on fire!
Turbines demand an extrordinary level of determination, money and dedication. Just considering it requires testicles of solid brass. Big scale Turbine Jets remain the pinacle of R/C achievement.. an uncommon endeavour in an already uncommon and unusual sport/hobby.
...except fer maybe the turbine heli guys. Those dudes are certifiable. ;)
You go; Skuzzinator! Keep the cajones polished...
:aok
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LOL Hang!
It is a challenge, I grant ya that, but heck, getting it to fly in the first place was an incredible experience. Nothing like taking blocks of aluminum, wood, and plastic and making it into something that actually flew.
It will be another 6 months to a year before it is ready again. Nothing like this happens quickly.
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Ever think of putting a wireless cam in an RC plane? Not only would it be fun, it might improve the pilots perspective.
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Originally posted by z0rch
Ever think of putting a wireless cam in an RC plane? Not only would it be fun, it might improve the pilots perspective.
particlarly if you have a neighbour down the street who sun tans by the pool in her bikini:cool:
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Cameras are pretty common these days..
(http://www.hangtimes.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/L-21A.jpg)
Here's my 1/4 scale Piper L-21a.. it's got Video Downlink and live Telemetry to laptop that provides altitude, airspeed, GPSFix (moving map), engine cylinder temp and RPM, Fuel level, Voltage & Amperage, Stall warning. It'll operate LOS (line of sight) for sure.. haven't gone beyon 'dot' range yet.
Also has smoke, sailplane tow release, banner tow and 'bomb' (candy) drop.
Nothin really unusual these days. ;)
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Geez, from flying F-15s to RC aircraft. Isn't that like going from sleeping with Monica Belucci to...well, SOB.
Compared with Monica Belluci and real F-15s, SOB and R/C a/c are cheap and easy.
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I really do not know if I have enough space for a cam in it or not. It's one of the things on my 'maybe' list.
I have to find enough space to mount the engine controls electronics first.
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Hangtime:
Here's my 1/4 scale Piper L-21a.. it's got Video Downlink and live Telemetry to laptop that provides altitude, airspeed, GPSFix (moving map), engine cylinder temp and RPM, Fuel level, Voltage & Amperage, Stall warning. It'll operate LOS (line of sight) for sure.. haven't gone beyon 'dot' range yet.
Sweet! I want one!
1/4 scale is pretty big. What kind of engine does that run? Must be double-digit horsepower..
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No need. Heck, the first Piper cubs had what, 20hp engines? Plus, balsa instead of steel frame, etc, and they weigh much less than 1/4 the weight of the original.
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Close.. the 2 cyl Brownbach Tiger Kitten was 20hp.. and Taylorcrafts Kitten could barely fly. With no suitable engine for their plane the Taylor brothers went bankrupt and Piper bought the assets... in 1931 with the depression in full bloom. When Contenental introduced the 37 horse A-40, Piper put 'em in the Kitten and re-introduced it as the E-2 Cub. A few years later the plane was redesigned and upgraded, the J2 with Conteninbtal, Lycoming and Franklin engines. By 1940 the power was up to 65 horses in the J3, and they went to war as the L-4A.
By the time the Korean war rolled around a Super Cub was available.. with 150 horse Lycoming 0-320 flat 4.. the L-21 was the Army's version and it was no slouch... could lift anything they could close the doors on. ;)
The model above has a 102" span (8.5 feet) weighs 18 pounds in tug configuration, 21 pounds with extended range tanks, full telemetry and camera loads. Total payload (lift capability deadweight and airframe) has been tested to 31 pounds.. cracked the gear on landing so I stopped loading more into it. The Zenoah G-38 gas engine the model flies on spins a 20" prop and rates at 2.3 ci and 2.5hp. Pretty scale power perfomance in the model. This bird see's a huge amount of airtime.. I've completely rebuilt it twice now; and expect to keep it operational as long as I possibly can. It's a great bird.
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Hang,
That is some top-flight building right there. Outstanding examples.
Anyone at your club ever build the BalsaUSA 1/3 scale Sopwith Pup? That was my big-scale foray, and she still flys somewhere. Actually, I found the building almost better than the flying (have I blasphemed now?).
Anyway...great work!
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My only crash to date was due to my own stupidity , decided to put a larger battery pack in this little foamy i had , well it climbed like a rocket , but once throttled back i found that the c of g was a tad tooooo far forward
(and here's me qualified to trim real aircraft!!!!!) any to cut a short story shorter the thing dived straight in to the side of a warehouse !!!!beeeg bang !!!!!(this is in Bahrain where r/c aircraft have only recently been made legal !)
I go to the ware house and knock on the door of the security guards shack , little Sri Lankan guy comes out , i tell him my r/c plane has hit his warehouse........10 minutes later the guy calms down , he was running all over shouting airplane crash !!! airplane crash........poor sod thought an airliner had hit his warehouse :) ..Anyway went to the scene of my crime ...Warehouse1 R/c plane 0....was totaled , the rear pod mounted motor had travelled through the plane , the nose once rounded now resembled concorde after a big drinking session...bent 90degrees down , the wing was now in bits and the battery was totaly gone!!!! just a few bits of plastic wrapping .......
Still had to laugh...airplane crash!!!!!!!! hahahahahaha
:lol
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Originally posted by Goomba
Anyone at your club ever build the BalsaUSA 1/3 scale Sopwith Pup? That was my big-scale foray, and she still flys somewhere. Actually, I found the building almost better than the flying (have I blasphemed now?).
Anyway...great work!
Yup.. three of the big Pups in the club.. and two of the new 1/3 scale D7's! I'm lucky to be in the Skyhawks.. we've got 4 Top Gun winners, 12 places, about 30 total entries over the last 10 years... these guys can build and my stuff looks pretty pedestrian next to theirs. Most of those guys lend a whole new meaning to the term 'anal'... bitter arguments over rigging wire placements and number of stitches on leather cockpit coamings kinda stuff.
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The big Pup's fly like trucks.. needs A LOTTA rudder and aileron cross control to avoid yaw. Spins real easy, recovery requires lotsa opposite rudder and a fair amount of throttle. Definitely gotta stay very alert when landing. ;) Transport of the Pup's isn't to bad, full size vans work out fine. Setup is a bit tedious though. Good plane! The D7's seem to be a better flyers, little lighter on the same power (g-62). Really a treat watchin the 'Monsters Dogfight'.
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I actually tried G3 in multiplayer yesterday. But without any structure or organization its just loud and really annoying.
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Skuzzy, you have pictures of that F-15 yet?
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