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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on March 17, 2006, 07:16:00 PM
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France to burn again? (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-03-17T230956Z_01_L17342207_RTRUKOC_0_US-FRANCE.xml&rpc=22) Million to march against new Labor law. Unions and left-wing opposition to try to plug up the streets. Visions of 1968 flutter about...
Also, France says no to Ipod. (http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060317/france_ipods.html?.v=7)Interesting how capitalism doesn't always blend with socialism. ;)
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What the heck IS an ipod, anyway? I don't know anyone who has one, but I've been reading about them on various internet forums for some time now. As far as I know it's just a walkman that doesn't use casette tapes. What's the big deal?
J_A_B
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Subliminal Messages...
"...sgalf etihw evaW...rednerruS ,rednerruS"
:O
Mac
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I have the sudden urge to wave white flags....
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Originally posted by nirvana
I have the sudden urge to wave white flags....
"....ebaB a si oneR tenaJ , ebaB a si oneR tenaJ"
:O
Mac
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Damn, Bea Aurthur is hot.
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France sucks.
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uh oh
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Dont but on Bee...I'll flame your nik.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Also, France says no to Ipod. (http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060317/france_ipods.html?.v=7)Interesting how capitalism doesn't always blend with socialism. ;)
You did actually read that right?
Tronsky
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
France sucks.
France does not suck, its the french people that sucks (atleast 50% of them has it geneticly encoded)
I have not read any statistics, but im guessing 50% of the population are either female or ghey.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Also, France says no to Ipod. (http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060317/france_ipods.html?.v=7)Interesting how capitalism doesn't always blend with socialism. ;) [/B]
You really didn't read the article did you?
Or are you just too dumb to understand it?
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Originally posted by -tronski-
You did actually read that right?
Tronsky
Yeah, forgot the word "monopoly". Sorry! I found it ironic that a capitalist company wanted a monopoly with Itunes (a form of socialistic communism imo) and a Socialist country wanted an free open market on the music. Kind of a reversal! :eek:
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Yeah, forgot the word "monopoly". Sorry! I found it ironic that a capitalist company wanted a monopoly with Itunes (a form of socialistic communism imo) and a Socialist country wanted an free open market on the music. Kind of a reversal! :eek:
Well if the French gov would get a nice big cut then it might be ok.
Bronk
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I'm really getting freaked by the social unrest ripping thru France and Europe.. it's playing out newsreels from the 30's. Seems like it's all happening all over again.
And that would truly suck.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
I'm really getting freaked by the social unrest ripping thru France and Europe.. it's playing out newsreels from the 30's. Seems like it's all happening all over again.
And that would truly suck.
don't worry, the UN will keep it under control.
peace in our time.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
I'm really getting freaked by the social unrest ripping thru France and Europe.. it's playing out newsreels from the 30's. Seems like it's all happening all over again.
And that would truly suck.
People who do not study history are DOOMED to repeat it.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Bronk
People who do not study history are DOOMED to repeat it.
Bronk
Who needs history?
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Originally posted by Bronk
People who do not study history are DOOMED to repeat it.
Bronk
Who needs history?
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Front page CNN.com, someone in France tossing a lit flare into a car.
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Originally posted by Bronk
People who do not study history are DOOMED to repeat it.
Bronk
"Every time history repeats itself, the price goes up." ~ Unknown
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Originally posted by eagl
Front page CNN.com, someone in France tossing a lit flare into a car.
No no no! He was simply waiting to shake hands with someone who had a French cigarette in their hand!
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/europe/03/18/france.protests/t1.riot.flare.gi.jpg)
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Looks like a HVAR pullin a u turn.
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By ANGELA CHARLTON, Associated Press Writer 37 minutes ago
PARIS - Police loosed water cannons and tear gas on rioting students and activists rampaged through a McDonald's and attacked store fronts in the capital Saturday as demonstrations against a plan to relax job protections spread in a widening arc across France.
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The protests, which drew some 500,000 people in cities across the country, were the biggest show yet of escalating anger that is testing the strength of the conservative government before elections next year.
In Paris, seven officers and 17 protesters were injured during two melees at the close of the march, at the Place de la Nation in eastern Paris and the Sorbonne University. Police said they arrested 156 people in the French capital.
Four cars were set afire, police said, and a McDonald's restaurant was attacked along with store fronts at the close of the march.
Tensions escalated later Saturday as about 500 youths moved on to the Sorbonne, trying to break through tall metal blockades erected after police stormed the Paris landmark a week ago to dislodge occupying students. The university has become a symbol of the protest.
Police turned water cannons on the protesters at the Sorbonne and were seen throwing youths to the ground, hitting them and dragging them into vans.
"Liberate the Sorbonne!" some protesters shouted. "Police everywhere, justice nowhere."
In an apparent effort to set fire to a police van serving as a blockade, protesters instead torched the entrance of a nearby Gap store, apparently by accident, engulfing the small porch in flames.
With commerce snarled in some cities, people asked whether Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin would stand firm on implementing the change that he says is needed to encourage hiring. The usually outspoken leader was silent Saturday.
Protest organizers urged
President Jacques Chirac on Saturday to prevent the law from taking effect as expected in April.
The group issued an ultimatum, saying it expects an answer by Monday, when leaders will decide whether to continue protests that have paralyzed at least 16 universities and dominated political discourse for weeks.
"We give them two days to see if they understand the message we've sent," said Rene Jouan of the CFDT union.
Protests reached every corner of France, with organizers citing 160 marches from the small provincial town of Rochefort in the southwest to the major city of Lyon in the southeast.
In Marseille, extreme leftist youths climbed the facade of City Hall, replacing a French flag with a banner reading "Anticapitalism." Police used tear gas to disperse them and made several arrests.
Police also fired tear gas at a protest in Clermont-Ferrand, a central city where 10,000 people marched and about 100 youths threw beer cans and other projectiles at a building.
The Paris protest march was the biggest, attracting some 80,000 people, according to police. Organizers put the number at 300,000.
Some demonstrators became violent as the march ended. Youths set a car on fire, smashed a shop window, trashed a bus stop and threw stones, golf balls and other objects at police. Police responded with tear gas during skirmishes that lasted several hours.
Widespread discontent with the government has crystalized around a new type of job contract that Villepin says will alleviate France's sky-high youth unemployment by getting companies to risk hiring young workers.
Critics say the contract abolishes labor protections crucial to the social fabric.
"Aren't we the future of France?" asked Aurelie Silan, a 20-year-old student who joined a river of protesters in Paris.
Government spokesman Jean-Francois Cope insisted on the need for a "spirit of dialogue."
"The hand is extended, the door is open," he said on France-3 TV network. However, he limited dialogue to "improving" Villepin's plan — not withdrawing it.
Waves of red union flags topped the densely packed crowd in Paris, which overflowed into side streets and stretched more than 3 1/2 miles under bright sunshine.
"Throw away the job contract, don't throw away the youth!" chanted a group of students shaking tambourines. Many wore plastic bags to illustrate their feeling that the new law reduces young people to disposable workers.
The law would allow businesses to fire young workers in the first two years on a job without giving a reason, removing them from protections that restrict layoffs of regular employees.
Companies are often reluctant to add employees because it is hard to let them go if business conditions worsen. Students see a subtext in the new law: make it easier to hire and fire to help France compete in a globalizing world economy.
Youth joblessness stands at 23 percent nationwide, and 50 percent among impoverished young people. The lack of work was blamed in part for the riots that shook France's depressed suburbs during the fall.
Chirac has pushed Villepin to act "as quickly as possible" to defuse the crisis, but has backed the contested measure.
On Friday night, a group of university presidents met with Villepin and called on him to withdraw the jobs plan for six months to allow for debate.
Failure to resolve the crisis could sorely compromise Villepin, who is believed to be Chirac's choice as his party's candidate in next year's presidential election.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
No no no! He was simply waiting to shake hands with someone who had a French cigarette in their hand!
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/europe/03/18/france.protests/t1.riot.flare.gi.jpg)
Looks like riots in LA?
Rip I heard Nazies are having good times in USA; they have nice websites like Stormfront etc where old Clan members are highly respected... I'm sure Frenchies appreciate your concerns but maybe you should also worry about your own people and your skinheads.
btw you and your kids are having quite short haircut; has that anything to do with your political views?
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Anyone else find it ironic that Holden double posted:
Who needs history?
Or is that just me?
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is staga being historonic while holden is going historic?
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Let me get this right, A while ago they were protesting because unemployment was so high and it was hard for young people to get jobs.
Now the goverment comes up with a program to promote job growth and they get mad and burn the cars again?:huh
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Staga has quite a fascination with Nazis. He must be dying to use Lebensraum in a sentence again.
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Originally posted by wojo71
Let me get this right, A while ago they were protesting because unemployment was so high and it was hard for young people to get jobs.
Now the goverment comes up with a program to promote job growth and they get mad and burn the cars again?:huh
Nope , it's because the governement is changing the rules without trying obtain a consensus or discuss.
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This just in: Every country has their share of idiots and *******s. I know, I know. Shocking.
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Originally posted by SOB
This just in: Every country has their share of idiots and *******s. I know, I know. Shocking.
Come on! France doesn't want to hear the truth! :noid
Karaya
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Originally posted by SOB
This just in: Every country has their share of idiots and *******s. I know, I know. Shocking.
What's amazing about that is somehow they all manage to post here:eek:
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This little ****, someone had to work a lot to buy this car. That's more than he ever tried to do. Just like that, out of boredom, destroying someone's life.
Makes me wsh I could grab him by the belt, and throw him in the car too.:furious
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Anyone else find it ironic that Holden double posted:
Or is that just me?
someone does pay attention around here.
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Originally posted by straffo
Nope , it's because the governement is changing the rules without trying obtain a consensus or discuss.
Then you don't need a government...just an office of consensus. Who's consensus?
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Did you read that new Law ?
its realy horde of BS.. if i were french under 26 i would also demant skin of that minister.
And may be some other pieces as well :D
Straffo if i will go to france tomorow, can we go out together and burn some cars ? :D
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus
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What's the problem with the new law Lada?
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Originally posted by Hangtime
I'm really getting freaked by the social unrest ripping thru France and Europe.. it's playing out newsreels from the 30's. Seems like it's all happening all over again.
And that would truly suck.
This time around America should let Germany keep france
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Relax folks, France has been rioting on a regular basis since the Revolution. It's almost a consitutional right.
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I haven't heard of anyone being shot in these riots.
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No shooting apparently in the current rioting, but in the Nov 2005 riots 10 cops were shot by rioters. The current rioters are complaining about not having jobs by destroying businesses and burning cars. The rioters should be thanked for creating jobs 'cause the businesses and cars will have to be rebuilt/replaced. Bravo.
It's an easy google search to find a page or two of articles regarding the shootings, including BBC and aljazeera links. Google on France Riot Shot and see.
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How many were killed, and what kind of weapons were used?
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"The draft law could force Apple to let French iPod users buy their music from download sites other than iTunes. Owners of other music players would also be allowed to buy songs from iTunes France."
What next? Are they going to force Nintendo, MS, and Sony to make their game consoles and games work on other systems? Are they going to force Windows and Mac software to work on both systems? Are they going to force XM and Sirus units to receive both company's signals?
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
What next? Are they going to force Nintendo, MS, and Sony to make their game consoles and games work on other systems? Are they going to force Windows and Mac software to work on both systems? Are they going to force XM and Sirus units to receive both company's signals?
Sounds like American anti-trust laws in action.
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Originally posted by Staga
Looks like riots in LA?
Rip I heard Nazies are having good times in USA; they have nice websites like Stormfront etc where old Clan members are highly respected... I'm sure Frenchies appreciate your concerns but maybe you should also worry about your own people and your skinheads.
btw you and your kids are having quite short haircut; has that anything to do with your political views?
Staga,
I'm quite appalled at your lack of defensiveness when articles with the subject USA are posted up on this board. Do I detect the presence of favoritism based on country affiliation when an article is brought forth that regards Europe, rather than USA problems?;)
Regarding the cheap shot at my family, yes, we are Nazi's, I have my kids where Jack boots to school. I'm considering on letting them get swatikas tattoo'd on their arms. I let them stay out until 10pm each night so that they can continue to work on their cross burnings through out our county. Thank you for noticing that short hair=political views! I'm so amazed at your intellect in this regard! Bravo! :aok
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What's funny is what they are rioting over. No more entitlements from what I can see. If you dont perform, an employer can....gasp...fire you!
Ive been trying to figure out whats the big deal over there. Looks like Labor has a pretty short work week with all the benies?
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Originally posted by LePaul
What's funny is what they are rioting over. No more entitlements from what I can see. If you dont perform, an employer can....gasp...fire you!
Ive been trying to figure out whats the big deal over there. Looks like Labor has a pretty short work week with all the benies?
A good portion of the french labor pool would never survive in the "Pay for performance" types job that exist here in the U.S.A. I know this because I work closely with the french on a day to day basis.
Editted and added "A good portion" rather than blanket all the French. Straffo certainly doesn't fit the sterotype that I've identified above. And I realize I cast stones from a glass house, I do post alot, but I also get my job done, at all costs.
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Ah, so this is like those protestors who protest the World Trade Organization...yet run to WalMart to buy posterboard, paint and magic markers. Gotcha :)