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Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: nirvana on March 17, 2006, 07:39:12 PM
If i don't live in "Blue Bell Country" can I still get Blue Bell?  My mom seems to think Wal Mart would have it but i'm skeptical.
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: JTs on March 17, 2006, 07:48:08 PM
here is their web page. they will ship anywhere in the U.S. but and its a big one (kinda like J. Lo's) it is expensive.  ya wally has it we take tons of it to phoenix. dont know about denver.

http://www.bluebell.com/icecream_order.htm
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: rpm on March 17, 2006, 11:27:49 PM
You'd probably be better off getting thru an online grocer like Tom Thumb or HEB.
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: Suave on March 18, 2006, 03:19:39 AM
Where in heck do you live that you can't get ice cream that is better than bluebell?

I live in bluebell country, it's basically generic icecream that you can get at any 7-11 type store. Very grainy, bad lingering aftertaste, lots of air, very low milk fat, lots of artificial flavoring. I don't even think that blue bell vanilla has vanilla in it.

It's basically a southern version of carnation ice cream. I don't know why people like it so much.
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: Nilsen on March 18, 2006, 03:40:47 AM
Try some Arktika ice.

Its great, free and comes in three falvours and colors....Chernobyl Glowing Green, DDT and Oil Spill Brown.
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: Shuckins on March 18, 2006, 06:15:49 AM
Yarnell's is better.
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: Heretik on March 18, 2006, 06:53:48 AM
Umpqua FTW!
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: AWMac on March 18, 2006, 12:35:05 PM
That's it! It was bound to happen someday...

Someone saying bad things about BluBell icecream...Skuzzy is gonna go bezerk.


IN

Mac
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: nirvana on March 18, 2006, 02:58:36 PM
We have Blue Bunny, Ben and Jerry's (my top pick, Breyers, and a lot of generic stuff.  Breyer's has a horrible after taste to me.  Ben and Jerry's come in containers that are too small, they are like single serve portions:huh
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: Wolf14 on March 18, 2006, 04:37:49 PM
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Originally posted by Suave
It's basically a southern version of carnation ice cream. I don't know why people like it so much.



Now lets see.......Where did I put that rope last?????
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: NoBaddy on March 18, 2006, 05:04:17 PM
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Originally posted by Suave
Where in heck do you live that you can't get ice cream that is better than bluebell?

I live in bluebell country, it's basically generic icecream that you can get at any 7-11 type store. Very grainy, bad lingering aftertaste, lots of air, very low milk fat, lots of artificial flavoring. I don't even think that blue bell vanilla has vanilla in it.

It's basically a southern version of carnation ice cream. I don't know why people like it so much.


I call BS on this. The butterfat in Blue Bell is comparable to any other premium ice cream. BTW, by government standards, frozen dairy products made with low fat milk MUST be labeled as "Light Ice Cream". The overrun (amount of air in the product) is comparable or better than any other premium ice cream. Blue Bell uses no more 'artificial' flavoring than any other premium ice cream on the market. Which vanilla are you talking about? Blue Bell makes a Homemade (Blue Bell originated this flavor in 1970), French, Natural Vanilla Bean (with plenty of ground vanilla bean SHOWING in the product) and 3 "health claim" vanilla products...Homemade Vanilla Light, Country Vanilla NSA (No Sugar Added) and Vanilla Bean NSA.

As for icy product, this is caused by heat shock (.ie the product has been slightly melted and refrozen). Try shopping at a store with decent freezers and you might see a difference.

BTW, comparing Blue Bell to super premium products is not a fair comparison. Super premium products are high fat, low overrun products. Basically lots of fat with little air, it makes for a more dense product. The only super premium product that I have ever tried that was not very good was the trash that Adkins put out a couple of years ago.

As a clue for anyone that cares, butter fat in ice cream has little impact on flavor. Its main function is to create a smooth texture. Exceeding the butter fat needed for good texture just means that you consume more fat. It doesn't mean the product tastes better.

As for aftertastes, most of the time an aftertaste will come from the preservatives added to the product to increase shelf life. This is true of most warehoused products, .ie store brands. While Blue Bell does not claim that preservatives are not in the product, they do use the minimum needed to try to insure that the customer receives a quality product. BTW, wanna see what you are eating? Next time you get a bowl of ice cream from the freezer, take about half a scoop and put it on a saucer. Leave it on the counter for about 20 minutes. If you comeback to see a bile of cottage cheese looking crap in a puddle of oil...it's chocked full of preservatives. If you come back and see lots of air bubbles, it has a high overrun (lots of air). Another way to check overrun is to take a half gallon of the product to the produce department and weigh it. Generally speaking, a half gallon of Blue Bell Homemade Vanilla will in at about 60% of what a 4 quart pail of store brand product weighs.

    
Nirvana, a map showing the areas where Blue Bell is available can be found at http://www.bluebell.com . If you can't get it, I can recommend some Dreyers/Edys products. Within Blue Bell territory Dreyers has made a producted called "Homemade Brand". This line is comparable to Blue Bell and is much better then their Grand. They started making this as a direct competitor to Blue Bell when they moved into the Texas market. It didn't help and they are discontinuing the product. If you are willing to pay for it, you can have Blue Bell ship product to you....but, it ain't cheap. :) Here is the link....
    
http://bluebell.com/icecream_order.htm

Oh, as for the "Carnation" crack...since Blue Bell put them out of business here years ago...it's kinda hard to validate that statement. :)
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: Suave on March 18, 2006, 06:58:09 PM
What are you talking about? I bought  "homemade vanilla" yesterday from the gas station, I still have some in my freezer, it's pure white, there is no sign of vanilla bean in it.
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: NoBaddy on March 18, 2006, 09:48:20 PM
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Originally posted by Suave
What are you talking about? I bought  "homemade vanilla" yesterday from the gas station, I still have some in my freezer, it's pure white, there is no sign of vanilla bean in it.


:rolleyes:

Did you bother to read what I wrote?

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Blue Bell uses no more 'artificial' flavoring than any other premium ice cream on the market. Which vanilla are you talking about? Blue Bell makes a Homemade (Blue Bell originated this flavor in 1970), French, Natural Vanilla Bean (with plenty of ground vanilla bean SHOWING in the product) and 3 "health claim" vanilla products...Homemade Vanilla Light, Country Vanilla NSA (No Sugar Added) and Vanilla Bean NSA.
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Your statement was that you believed that "blue bell vanilla" doesn't have vanilla in it. I asked you WHICH vanilla. If you want REAL vanilla ice cream, try a vanilla bean ice cream. I'm not positive,but, I don't think that any premium vanilla ice creams use REAL vanilla to flavor anymore. It's simply too expensive. BTW, "pure white" is good...yellow would be bad. :) Also, if you are not satisfied with the product, return it and ask for a refund. However, as I stated earlier...if the product is "grainy", then it has ice crystals in it and is something the driver/salesman should pick up. (BTW, Blue Bell does give the store credit for damaged product). If you have any problem getting a refund, contact me. :)
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: nirvana on March 18, 2006, 11:31:59 PM
Please recommend some quality ice cream.  Breyer's grand vanilla has repeayedly let me down in the after taste market.  Just bleh, kind of chalky tasting.  I use to get gallon jugs of Orange N Creme but I got sick of that.  I can't stomach Breyer's cookie dough either because of the aftertaste of the vanilla, Oh well, such is life.  I can always pick up a little carton of B&J's if I want GOOD ice cream up here.
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: NoBaddy on March 19, 2006, 12:13:27 AM
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Originally posted by nirvana
Please recommend some quality ice cream.  Breyer's grand vanilla has repeayedly let me down in the after taste market.  Just bleh, kind of chalky tasting.  I use to get gallon jugs of Orange N Creme but I got sick of that.  I can't stomach Breyer's cookie dough either because of the aftertaste of the vanilla, Oh well, such is life.  I can always pick up a little carton of B&J's if I want GOOD ice cream up here.


Colorado, eh? Well, if you don't want to spend the bucks for Hagen Daz or B&J's, you might try Dreyers. While I don't feel that its as good as Blue Bell (yah, we have done blind taste tests) it is a good product. Personally, I prefer it to Breyers. I doubt you will find the Dreyers Homemade products. But, their Grand is good.
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: nirvana on March 19, 2006, 12:22:17 AM
You work for Blue Bell, NB?  Sounds like you know your stuff about the ice cream business.  Best i've ever had was home made though, can't beat that stuff even after you've frozen it in the ice chest for 2 days.  And boy, talk about a brain freeze, MMMM MMMM.


$4.99 for half a pint of B&J or Haagen Dazs...:rolleyes:
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: Suave on March 19, 2006, 07:49:57 AM
Dude don't get defensive, and start calling names over ice cream. lol.

If it's made with beans it should have some black flecks.

Blue bell, next to HEB generic, is probably the cheapest ice cream available here. Thats why it's everywhere, gas stations, hospital cafeterias, you get the picture.  I don't know what premium or super premium ice cream is and I don't really care, I'll leave the confection judging to the ladies. However I have been to a restaruant or two  and talked over a bowl of good ice cream. And I do know that when it comes to ice cream, density and consistency is all important. And that's where blue bell is no better than any other easily scoopable, half air and minimum milk fat, grocery store ice cream. Yeah it comes in lots of flavors, some of them weird, and I like to eat it. But I don't cream my jeans over it and I don't think it's better than most brands.

(http://cbg.nohomers.net/images/standing.gif)

Actually I saw the first couple of threads about blue bell and I was thinking "hmm maybe I should try some of that". It didn't click that you guys were talking about the blue bell ice cream that is in every gas station this side of monterrey mexico. Heck even B&J's is more dense, at least it used to be, haven't had it in years.
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: Suave on March 19, 2006, 08:10:30 AM
All the bomb toppings.

http://www.marbleslab.com
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: NoBaddy on March 19, 2006, 09:46:46 AM
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Originally posted by Suave
And that's where blue bell is no better than any other easily scoopable, half air and minimum milk fat, grocery store ice cream.  


First, at no point have I been "defensive". At no point, did I call you anything besides "Suave" (which is the name you have chosen here). You would know this if you had bothered to read my post (which, obviously, you didn't...because if you had, you would not have made the uninformed statement quoted above). Suffice to say, I have 25+ in the ice cream business (and I have the gold watch to prove it :)....and you don't. :) I have no problem if you don't like our product. I do have a problem when you post statements that are misleading, incorrect and uninformed about our product. You are welcome to you opinion, however, you might attempt to get your facts straight before you start bad mouthing.

That being said, this is AMERICA!!! Buy what you want, enjoy. :)
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: NoBaddy on March 19, 2006, 09:52:05 AM
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Originally posted by nirvana
You work for Blue Bell, NB?  Sounds like you know your stuff about the ice cream business.  Best i've ever had was home made though, can't beat that stuff even after you've frozen it in the ice chest for 2 days.  And boy, talk about a brain freeze, MMMM MMMM.


$4.99 for half a pint of B&J or Haagen Dazs...:rolleyes:


Yes, I work for Blue Bell. Started as a utility man and worked my way into management. Nothing is better than home made. But, Blue Bell Homemade Vanilla tries to get close. :) Come to the convention and I will fix you up with a taste. :D
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: nirvana on March 19, 2006, 12:41:13 PM
I would go to the convention but: I'm 16 and make ~$500 a month, work hours are anything but steady, and i'm in school.  But, I am going to be in the deep south at the end of May so you know where my first stop will be, the store for some Blue Bell and Moon Pies.  You guys should make that actually, Moon Pie ice cream.




P.S. Awesome job you have NB:aok
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: Wolf14 on March 19, 2006, 02:47:14 PM
I cant wait for the San Pecos Canteloped and Cream.



YUMMMM!!!!!!:aok
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: Suave on March 19, 2006, 02:51:06 PM
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
First, at no point have I been "defensive". At no point, did I call you anything besides "Suave" (which is the name you have chosen here). You would know this if you had bothered to read my post (which, obviously, you didn't...because if you had, you would not have made the uninformed statement quoted above). Suffice to say, I have 25+ in the ice cream business (and I have the gold watch to prove it :)....and you don't. :) I have no problem if you don't like our product. I do have a problem when you post statements that are misleading, incorrect and uninformed about our product. You are welcome to you opinion, however, you might attempt to get your facts straight before you start bad mouthing.

That being said, this is AMERICA!!! Buy what you want, enjoy. :)


This is great, taking ice cream opinions personally. We're taking the retardedness of the o'club to new heights here. I understand why you're taking it so personally now, you work for blue bell. Do you think that is affecting your opinion at all?

What facts am I getting wrong? You yourself said that the butterfat content is comparable to any other "premium" ice cream, and that the air content is also comparable to any other premium (7-11, HEB) ice cream.

It's just your average quality mass produced ice cream, and no matter where  one lives in the US he shouldn't have to look very far to find a better ice cream. Is this "bad mouthing" ?
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: SOB on March 19, 2006, 04:00:22 PM
I'm eating some Dreyer's Homemade right now, and I can't say I'm all that crazy about it...I got it from the grocery outlet though, so there's no telling what it's been through to get up here.  If you're ever in the Northwest, NB, pop into a store and get some Umpqua ice cream if you care to compare.  I haven't had better out of a carton, and as you probably could have guessed, I've eaten plenty of ice cream. :D  Couldn't compare it to Blue Bell though, as I've never had any.
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: SOB on March 19, 2006, 04:02:26 PM
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Originally posted by Suave
All the bomb toppings.

http://www.marbleslab.com

heh, there's another franchise like that up here...

Perfect for that diabetic coma you've always wanted:
http://www.coldstonecreamery.com/secondary/creation.asp?id=46
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: NoBaddy on March 19, 2006, 05:07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Suave
I understand why you're taking it so personally now, you work for blue bell. Do you think that is affecting your opinion at all?

What facts am I getting wrong? You yourself said that the butterfat content is comparable to any other "premium" ice cream, and that the air content is also comparable to any other premium (7-11, HEB) ice cream.

It's just your average quality mass produced ice cream, and no matter where  one lives in the US he shouldn't have to look very far to find a better ice cream. Is this "bad mouthing" ?


Personally? Affecting my opinion? Hardly. Would I be suggesting competing products if it were? I don't feel so bad not, since it was obviously not just my posts you weren't reading. Read what you wrote and compare it to my response. The "average quality mass produced ice cream" is what you initailly described. As I attempted to point out, premium ice cream has less air, more butterfat and more "inclusions" (the business name for the candy and junk they add to it).
Title: Blue Bell Country
Post by: nirvana on March 19, 2006, 09:08:39 PM
I challenge you all to an ice cream eating contest, Sudden Death Cocoa overload with Chocolate Chips.