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The Dubya Files (http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm) :o
[ 08-04-2001: Message edited by: jihad ]
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Did you ratpublicans lose your pom-poms? :p
[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: jihad ]
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Is it true his IQ is 70 points lower than Clintons IQ ?
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No, 0 - 70 still = 0
:D
They're ALL just politicians.
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I don't think anyone is really even that interested Jihad. You've trolled on this pretty hard and gotten what you can out of it.
But don't worry, I'm sure someone will write some new fresh, neat catch phrases you can copy or link to.
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Here fatty this is for you. :D
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Not much difference between a Ratpublican or a Dumbocrat.Goverment and Politics are the biggest industry in this country and the most corrupt.We have no one to blame but ourselves.
Frodo
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Originally posted by Fatty:
I don't think anyone is really even that interested Jihad. You've trolled on this pretty hard and gotten what you can out of it.
But don't worry, I'm sure someone will write some new fresh, neat catch phrases you can copy or link to.
LOL, after the last year of ratpublicans bashing dumbocraps your getting some payback. ;)
Ya gotta admit...the pic of dubya picking his nose is pretty funny.
[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: jihad ]
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Sarcasm of Bush is very reminisant of Johnson and Carter, except he's done more in office his first 6 months than Johnson or Carter did in 8 years (Including giving the workers like me some tax relief with my family) :cool:
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Sarcasm of Bush is very reminisant of Johnson and Carter, except he's done more in office his first 6 months than Johnson or Carter did in 8 years
Including already taking more vacation time than they did in their terms.
Wonder when the dems will whistle up a grand jury to investigate dubya like Starr did to Clinton, the guys a fediddleing criminal - time to impeach his ass. ;)
Seriously though..the republicans on this UBB screamed bloody murder about Clintons lies and sex life, how come you don't judge GWB by the same high standards?
Convicted for DUI <possibly for cocaine possesion> 1st EVER president with criminal record, insider trading, liar/perjurer...the list goes on and on, why is he held in such high esteem?
Surely a couple of hundred bucks can't buy you guys off can it?
EDITED FOR ACCURACY
;)
[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: jihad ]
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Jihad, I know you're excited about all this, but you're skimming your W files too quickly. Might want to check your facts again (even according to "the files").
For what it's worth, the $300 (or $600) was a democrat proposed compromise, in lieu of larger tax cuts. So yes, it is a payoff, which is why I didn't like the idea and still don't.
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Wow, ya know something?
I don't like politics, but in Jihads urgency to use other peoples collected information to discredit our President, he himself actually lied, and deceived in this post.
At least Clinton got a fat chick to blow him, JiHead just got giddy like a little squeak from a link he found, lied, and then Fatty humiliated him with facts.
Maybe you should try talking about flight models or something arbitrary there Jizhat.
Much easier to argue as it's opinion.
[ 08-05-2001: Message edited by: Creamo ]
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What did I lie about, and how did fatty humiliate me?
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I dont know, something about a felony conviction of cocaine possession.
I wanna be part of the political rhetoric too.
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i ripped off this quote from 'bizarre news' so blame them if it's inacurate, prety interesting if it's not.
Greetings Fellow Bizarros:
Frequently, we like to site research studies and other bi-
zarre findings to share with you. Today, we have a report
published Monday from the Lovenstein Institute of Scranton,
Pennsylvania. Their mission was to determine the IQ of GW
Bush...no kidding, this is real! Before anybody gets their
knickers in tatters, I did not vote for Gore, so this is
not politically motivated. When I read the following, I
knew GW was in trouble.
"Since 1973, the Lovenstein Institute has published it's
research on each new president, which includes the famous
"IQ" report among others. According to statements in the
report, there have been twelve presidents over the past
50 years, from F. D. Roosevelt to G. W. Bush who were all
rated based on scholarly achievements, writings that they
alone produced without aid of staff, their ability to
speak with clarity, and several other psychological factors
which were then scored in the Swanson/Crain system of intell-
igence ranking. "
The study determined the following IQs of each president as
accurate to within five percentage points:
147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 Harry Truman (D)
122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
174 John F. Kennedy (D)
126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
155 Richard M. Nixon (R)
121 Gerald Ford (R)
175 James E. Carter (D)
105 Ronald Reagan (R)
98 George HW Bush (R)
182 William J. Clinton (D)
91 George W. Bush (R)
The six Republican presidents of the past 50 years had an
average IQ of 115.5, with President Nixon having the
highest IQ, at 155. President G. W. Bush was rated the
lowest of all the Republicans with an IQ of 91.
The six Democrat presidents had IQs with an average of 156,
with President Clinton having the highest IQ, at 182.
President Lyndon B. Johnson was rated the lowest of all the
Democrats with an IQ of 126.
No president other than Carter (D) has released his
actual IQ, 176. Among comments made concerning the specific
testing of President GW Bush, his low ratings were due to
his apparent difficulty to command the English language in
public statements, his limited use of vocabulary (6,500
words for Bush versus an average of 11,000 words for other
presidents), his lack of scholarly achievements other than a
basic MBA, and an absence of any body of work which could
be studied on an intellectual basis.
"All the Presidents prior to George W. Bush had a least one
book under their belt, and most had written several white
papers during their education or early careers. Not so with
President Bush," Dr. Lovenstein said.
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Bizarrely,
Lewis
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I dont know, something about a felony conviction of cocaine possession.
Where there is smoke there is fire creamo, I'm inclined to believe it's true - even if daddy and dubya did manage to cover it up.
What about the rest of the times he stepped on his dick?
The only purpose of this thread is to point out how much LIKE Clinton he is.
I don't like politics, but in Jihads urgency to use other peoples collected information to discredit our President..
He may be YOUR president, I sure as hell don't claim the low life bastard as mine. ;)
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1st EVER president with felony conviction
Your case would be better served if kept in the realm of reality.
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If you got a felony conviction out of that, in fact you are inclined to believe anything is true. Including that you makes sense or are remotley right. Wow.
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Originally posted by jihad:
LOL, after the last year of ratpublicans bashing dumbocraps your getting some payback. ;)
We did argue morality issues a lot and policy implications. I do not remember people seriously stating that Clinton was stupid - he was immoral, lied under oath in the court of law and conducted policies that many did not like, but he was recognized as a brilliant mind and excellent people manupulator.
In fact I have never ment a single smart person among those who explaned someone they do not like throught his stupidity.
Bush may not be the brightest politician in US history but he managed to graduate college, have successfull career, serve governor of a major state for more then one term and persuade exactly half of US population (likely more affluent one) to vote for him.
It may be surprise to you but person's intellectual abilities do not corellate with him.her being good. The two brightest political minds of the last century were Stalin and Hitler.
If you think that Bush is so wrong, why would you wish him to be smarter? To be more successfull?
I wonder if you even realise how stupid you look with your childish name calling?
miko
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Jihad must be Al Gore...........
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LOL Grunherz, I dislike Gore as much as I do Dubya.
All politicians are scum, and dubya is just as bad as bubba was, that's why I take exception to guys extolling his virtues all the time.
I'll shut up when you guys do. :cool:
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Ah, so you see, he wants the last word at all costs.
Jihad, get a life. Just try. You get backed into a corner when shown you are wrong about Bush and resort to the old "they are all scum". So, if thats the case, why aren't you pounding on Mr Condit and others?
I assume you are an equal oppritunity loud mouth, yes?
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98 George HW Bush (R)
182 William J. Clinton (D)
91 George W. Bush (R)
It look like mother nature failed to preserve us :)
Ever heard of Darwin :D?
rotlf :)
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Gorge W Bush .. leader of the free-world
hehehehehehhe hihihihihi huuhuhuhuhuh
DW6
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A president with an IQ of less than 100 is completely beyond my comprehension. It's shocking.
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Originally posted by LePaul:
Ah, so you see, he wants the last word at all costs.
Jihad, get a life. Just try. You get backed into a corner when shown you are wrong about Bush and resort to the old "they are all scum". So, if thats the case, why aren't you pounding on Mr Condit and others?
I assume you are an equal oppritunity loud mouth, yes?
Nah I don't need to get the last word in, and I don't see myself backed into a corner either - I'll admit that the evidence of his cocaine bust has been buried so deep it will probably never be seen, I did exagerate the info in that regard.
What about the rest of his crooked dealings? By attacking me personally you make me think your afraid to discuss the other times he's stepped on his dick.
I really haven't been keeping up with the Condit mess and this thread is about the slack jaw, start another thread if you want to discuss him..
PS: I'm not wrong about dubya, he's filth.
:D
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Huh? I thought it was basically admitted that Bush Jr. enjoyed the odd snow party from time to time. So *what* if there was never a conviction or anything like that?
Personally, I could give a damn about it... has zero bearing on his ability to lead IMHO... But splitting hairs over legal records etc. is moot. The guy got the odd nosebleed and of that I personally don't think there is any question.
Again... it's not a biggie imho.
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If you believe the cocaine bust about Bush, then you believe the stories of slick Willie’s involvement with drug smugglers while Ark gov, his fathering illegitimate black children, raping various other women, having many ppl killed (brown, foster to name a few) to keep his crap quiet, in bed with the Chinese, not to mention getting his hummers on the job in the Oval office - the same office Reagan felt so humbled in, he refused to remove his suit jacket and tie, while this clown tried not to trip over himself while chasing fat chicks around the room with his pants down around his ankles.....oops the last one isn't a rumor is it :)
In comparison GW still has a way to go to catch up with his predecessor...
GW isn't perfect but 1000x better than what we had crawling around the place for the last 8 years....
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Originally posted by Nash:
Huh? I thought it was basically admitted that Bush Jr. enjoyed the odd snow party from time to time. So *what* if there was never a conviction or anything like that?
No doubt he used drugs and alcohol, my beef is that if he was arrested for cocaine possession he should be ineligible to vote or hold the office of president - the same as any other felon.
In effect his community service arrangement was an acknowlegment of guilt wasn't it?
EDIT:
My mistake, he is eligible to vote under Texas statutes if his voting rights were reinstated, but isn't there a law against felons holding high office?
Under Texas statutes the right to vote can be reinstated two years after completion of penalty.
[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: jihad ]
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Jihad, you keep going on as if he has a felony on his record. I tried to be subtle about it before, however it doesn't appear to be sinking in (something similar to what you accuse Bush of being?).
George Bush does not have a felony. If you're trying to appply today's laws retroactively, it's possible he could have been, but even that is quite a stretch. It would hardly make him the first felon though, since starting with George Washington you're going to have multiple violations of present day statutes.
Not even the most rabid republican has such a distorted view of the law that they're going to label Ted Kennedy convicted of manslaughter and drunk driving (he's practically guilty, right?), but there's a lot better case for that than there is for GW being a felon (?).
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Originally posted by Nash:
A president with an IQ of less than 100 is completely beyond my comprehension. It's shocking.
And if you believe that, I can gess your IQ. :)
You need IQ 115 to study in a college and he did it with better grades then Al Gore.
have you ever read newspapers?
Did you see GW IQ test? Did you ever see any IQ test? Have you ever heard of IQ test that tried to estimate person's intelligence by "their ability to speak with clarity"? DId you ever hear about oral IQ test?
How do you orally measure IQ of a brilliant person with speach impediment - like Dan Quale or GW or Stephen Hawking? Have you never seen brilliant people who could not speak well or think quickly?
Do you have any idea? What IQ score means and how to use it? If you did, you would know that giving someone 147 or 182 with "accuracy" 5 by estimation is completely bogus.
IQ standard deviation is around 15 points.
So between 100 and 115 you have 34% of the population.
Between 115 and 130 you have 15.7%
2% of the population have IQ of 130 and higher. Every point above that has so much significance that you need specialized tests with thousands of questions (rather then dozens) for difference to be mathematically meaningfull. A guy of IQ 145 is 3 standard deviations above the mean and rare math reference will give you percentage - it stops at 3. A guy with 147 is several times smarter then 145 and what the hell 182 means, no one can tell. There are not enough people on the planet to express the ratio. And they are talking about 5 points accuracy based on personal opinion of a teleprompted rehearsed speach.
You people are so gullible...
miko
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Originally posted by Duckwing6:
Gorge W Bush .. leader of the free-world
Bush is an executive head of country. Not only are his powers very limited, he (as any president) is severely restricted by almost evenly-balanced Congress.
US president does pretty much what the population wants and population here is very isolational, ignorant of outside world and could care less about "leading" you anywhere. US isolated geographical position and historical superiority do nothing to discourage such opinions.
For average american his mayor and state governour are much more important then the president.
President is like a glorified housekeeper here. Why would you consider any US president "leader of the free-world" is beyong me.
Those poor guys who ended up with the post because they could not succeed on a corporate ladder must be getting those delusional ideas from you. They definitely could not pick such nonsence here.
We should probably restrict the freedom of travel for our presidents. Put an end to all those visits. All that european ass-kissing and calling them "leader" confuses the fellows and gives them wrong ideas where their responcibilities lay.
They should be drinking whiskey and @#$%&^@ interns in the White house while Greenspan regulates the economy instead of participating in all that stupid international circus.
miko
[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: miko2d ]
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I said *if* he was arrested for possesion of cocaine.
I corrected the post you took issue with, the latter post is just curiosity, my intent isn't to apply it retroactively.