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Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: RTO on March 21, 2006, 09:08:47 PM
come on already when will a tiger be taken up and have some reliability against the 1 bomb wonder,  or the low level 400-500 off the deck bomber that lobs a bomb.  I'm not talking about getting directly hit either.  Too many times certain players always seem to magically kill and in return can't be killed.  Something must be up and skill has nothing to do with it.  This just ain't right at all.
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: Pooh21 on March 21, 2006, 10:48:00 PM
are you implying something is rotten in denmark?:huh
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: FiLtH on March 21, 2006, 10:50:53 PM
I can never kill tigers....unless i use 2000 lbers.
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: Kurt on March 21, 2006, 11:02:23 PM
Oh, COME ON!

The tiger is practically indestructable anyhow, and now you want it even harder?

Sunday night I sat right in the middle of an enemy base shooting up buildings (VH was down)... 3 aircraft augered trying to kill me, I lit one up with the pintle and he ran away smoking... Dropped about 3 hangers... Two of the AA guns were beating on me and only managed to knock the treads off.

The VH came up and I killed 1 panzer and then... FINALLY this 'one bomb wonder' killed me.  20 minutes I sat there under constant attack from the AA, and guys throwing bombs at me... with no treads at a dead stop.

Tigers are plenty tough.

Check my Vehicle score, its all there, I hardly drive vehicles anyhow, so its easy to see how it went.
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: ghi on March 21, 2006, 11:43:29 PM
If you are on MG position in Tiger when bomb hits, die eassy. Always go to position 1 inside and keep moving, if you hear bombs coming,
 Tigers have a soft spot; tracks.  
 2 passes of concentrate cannon fire in IL2,on the same track  disable the tiger,
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 21, 2006, 11:54:08 PM
Unless it's changed in the past month or two, 5 good shots to the top from good angles from a HurriD will kill one.
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: OOZ662 on March 22, 2006, 12:03:21 AM
Just a couple posts down... (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=173673)
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: E25280 on March 22, 2006, 07:28:00 AM
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Originally posted by ghi
If you are on MG position in Tiger when bomb hits, die eassy. Always go to position 1 inside and keep moving, if you hear bombs coming,

This is something I didn't know -- your position in the tank affects how easily you are killed?  Does this mean you should always avoid gunning at those divebomers with the pintle gun?

If position in the tank matters, then does that mean if I am in a turret and my turret is hit, I am more likely to die than just have the gun disabled?  Or if I am driving, a hull hit will kill rather than hit the engine?
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: EN4CER on March 22, 2006, 08:11:49 AM
Welcome to the wonderful world of GVing. You obviously did not read En4cer's 10 Risk Rules of GVing.

Rule #2: Expect to die in a Tiger Tank at the hands of the enemy via a single bomb drop.

If you accept this, your feelings of frustration, anger, and let down will be far less as will the desire to explode your joystick against the wall.

:aok
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: ghi on March 22, 2006, 08:42:08 AM
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Originally posted by E25280
This is something I didn't know -- your position in the tank affects how easily you are killed?  Does this mean you should always avoid gunning at those divebomers with the pintle gun?

If position in the tank matters, then does that mean if I am in a turret and my turret is hit, I am more likely to die than just have the gun disabled?  Or if I am driving, a hull hit will kill rather than hit the engine?


  was a discussion about this on BB last year, some guys said, the bomb kills the driver unprotected by armor in MG position,  like in airplane pilot killed in healthy plane,
  Im my experince in Tiger that must be true, seems to be modeled like that, i take much more bombs b4 die in "inside armor",position
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: hitech on March 22, 2006, 09:59:33 AM
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If you are on MG position in Tiger when bomb hits, die eassy. Always go to position 1 inside and keep moving, if you hear bombs coming,


This is false. It dosn't matter what postion you are in.


HiTech
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: SteffK on March 22, 2006, 10:45:05 AM
A Cheaper Place :) (http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=288&afwinid=98765&OVRAW=Cragganmore&OVKEY=cragganmore&OVMTC=standard)
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: EN4CER on March 22, 2006, 12:17:23 PM
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Originally posted by SteffK
A Cheaper Place :) (http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=288&afwinid=98765&OVRAW=Cragganmore&OVKEY=cragganmore&OVMTC=standard)


Have to try it. Me prefers Glennfidich Ancient Reserve (18 years). Cleans my bagpipes out good too. :)
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: Lye-El on March 22, 2006, 02:07:23 PM
Thanks HT, I always wondered if that make any difference or not.
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: PuckHead on March 22, 2006, 06:56:12 PM
I kill tigers almost daily with an 500kg bomb from a d9. Thats 1100 pounds. I think 1100 pounds of explosives would kill any armoured vehicle.
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: Brooke on March 22, 2006, 08:13:35 PM
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Originally posted by PuckHead
I kill tigers almost daily with an 500kg bomb from a d9. Thats 1100 pounds. I think 1100 pounds of explosives would kill any armoured vehicle.


Nah, I used to shrug them off in my Anderson Light Armored Urban Assault Vehicle (my 1978 Mercury Marquis Brougham with its "economy" 6.6 liter engine). :)  Ah, those were the days -- driving into San Diego and waving off the fighter planes that mistook my mighty land yacht for an aircraft carrier. . . . I used to be able to turn sharply, and the US Geological Survey seizmometers would register earth movement.
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: RTO on March 24, 2006, 07:14:26 AM
lol,  last night defending a v-base in a tiger sitting on the road between the maproom and ammo bunkers  in comes a F4U heard the whistle and then I'm in the tower.  I up'd an osti drove out to where I was parked and the SINGLE bomb crater was off to the right rear of where I was positioned.  The victom of yet another 1 bomb wonder.  Conrats  Brentlo to u and ur amazing kill.
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: wipass on March 24, 2006, 07:17:23 AM
soon as I up a tiger it's goodnight,

wipass
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: Bruv119 on March 24, 2006, 07:48:13 AM
I had  22 kills in a tiger one time  thought the base was going to turn  when  the cap fell apart  and it all went pear shaped.

Several people tried kamikazing me with rockets  but i decided to leg it.

took   130mms  3  ju88 runs  to bomb me succesfully  and only after   a SPIT16 !!!  de tracked me  in one  side on pass.  


That tank took such a beating from  bombs/ tank shells / ack hits  etc etc.

How can a spit 16s  cannon de track it ???

Does damage accumulate  or was it the fact that i went through the war  and it had been weakened?

My tank experience seems  to be very random in regards to how many hits it takes to kill tanks.
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: Casper1 on March 24, 2006, 09:31:54 AM
A Tiger is tough enough to kill.  Stop complaining.  

A 1000lb egg or even a 500lb egg for that matter shuold destroy a GV, no matter the type.  Think about it...500 POUNDS of BOOM.  (or 1000 POUNDS).

Think about what would happen to your car.  And then armor your car and put it on tracks.  THe egg will still mess it up good.
Title: Re: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: Masherbrum on March 24, 2006, 05:11:40 PM
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Originally posted by RTO
come on already when will a tiger be taken up and have some reliability against the 1 bomb wonder,  or the low level 400-500 off the deck bomber that lobs a bomb.  I'm not talking about getting directly hit either.  Too many times certain players always seem to magically kill and in return can't be killed.  Something must be up and skill has nothing to do with it.  This just ain't right at all.


You DO realize the concussion of a 500lb bomb will KILL YOU up to about 100meters in RL, correct?  

Imagine yer "L337 Tigerkampfwagen" strolling along and a 1000lber craters about 50 feet from you.  Sir, you'd be dead.

If you DON'T WANT TO LOSE PERKS, DON'T SELECT A TIGER.

Karaya
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: RTO on March 24, 2006, 05:58:43 PM
karaya  ur funny.  how did u put it "if u don't want to blah blah blah then mimmi mimmi mimmi"  seems the main thrust of the topic/thread went right over ur head like foreskin.
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: Masherbrum on March 24, 2006, 06:08:03 PM
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Originally posted by RTO
karaya  ur funny.  how did u put it "if u don't want to blah blah blah then mimmi mimmi mimmi"  seems the main thrust of the topic/thread went right over ur head like foreskin.


I see the truth hurts.  I'm glad you agree and fire back with an insult.  Others tell me I'm funny, so Thanks!

Karaya
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: RTO on March 26, 2006, 06:27:19 PM
oh my,  here ya go with the kiddie stuff How old r u anyhow???.  come on now elevate above the juvenile "truth hurts"     "sticks and stones" crap
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: Kurt on March 26, 2006, 11:45:26 PM
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Originally posted by RTO
oh my,  here ya go with the kiddie stuff How old r u anyhow???.  come on now elevate above the juvenile "truth hurts"     "sticks and stones" crap


The irony on this one is outstanding!  You call him a kid and then you cry about it... Its beautiful.

Let me taste your tears RTO... mmmmm, they taste sweet, like victory.
Title: Re: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 26, 2006, 11:55:14 PM
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Originally posted by RTO
come on already when will a tiger be taken up and have some reliability against the 1 bomb wonder,  or the low level 400-500 off the deck bomber that lobs a bomb.  I'm not talking about getting directly hit either.  Too many times certain players always seem to magically kill and in return can't be killed.  Something must be up and skill has nothing to do with it.  This just ain't right at all.



I would imagine the concussion from a 500 pound bomb, even a 200 pound bomb from near hit would pretty much render your Tiger useless.  They were tough vehicles to be sure but hardly bomb proof.



ack-ack
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: RTO on March 27, 2006, 12:44:48 PM
lol  yep  it must be spring break and grade school is out.  assume all ya want,  imply all ya want, mis-read, mis-state, it does not negate the initial post and it's query.  Real Life is not AH so all the retorts of  a 500lb bomb visa visa vie is mute as well as the imature comments of "stop crying blah blah"  lmao.  I imagine some of you have never even been around that ordnance when it has been utilized and some have so spare the expert opinions on what it can and cannot do with regards to real life scenarios.  Been there got many t-shirts.  

   throwing fishing pole back for another cast!  same bait seems to be working just fine  ..........
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 27, 2006, 03:15:09 PM
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Originally posted by RTO
lol  yep  it must be spring break and grade school is out.



I pretty much figured that out from your posts.  



ack-ack
Title: 1 bomb wonders
Post by: LYNX on March 27, 2006, 04:39:52 PM
I use a F6f alot to Gv kill.  Salvo 1 with 500's and salvo 3 or 6 with rockets.  Tigers are tough you need to be very accurate.  Killed Tigers with salvo 6 rockets to but thats more luck than judgement.

f6f is steady as a rock to rearm and gets the 3 k diving alt fairly easy.  The method of 1 drop Tiger killing is get to 3 or 4k nose down........err wait up a mo.  I spent years learing this and I ain't blobbing it.  You'll use it on me:D