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Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: teufl on March 22, 2006, 01:45:12 PM: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here.....I am a luftwobble pilot mostly. The 262 has well some problems that i see. I did a flick roll and lost both my outer wing panels. I hit auto at 500KIA and lost 2k(i did this X3) The pilot sits way to the right, which i was told to accomadate right eyed pilots ok(i killed a newb no worries) also the 110 seems to be nose heavy, are we finally saying the 110 is what it is?,,,, a nothing plane? Put the hurri 2c in that same class please. The 109 g14 seems to be better as does the 30 mm on the k4. Also the b17 has lost some speed dont think thats a good thang. I do not post much but I thought well what the hey, its teufl time.....~~l:aok~~
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: wetrat on March 22, 2006, 01:50:09 PM: I haven't noticed a difference with 30mm in the K4... is the dispersion different or something? I've still seen a few phantom taters, so I don't think that's what you mean... I do find the K4 much more nimble now. Keep forgetting to try the G14.. how much faster is it than before?
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Krusty on March 22, 2006, 02:00:37 PM: just a few mph. Handles great, flies about the same.
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: SirLoin on March 22, 2006, 02:24:21 PM: 109G14 most fun plane in game now must say...:aok
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Hoarach on March 22, 2006, 02:44:58 PM: Why does when turn combat trim on the 262 it goes down doesnt stay level.
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: teufl on March 22, 2006, 04:15:57 PM: Sorry bro, in english? T
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: teufl on March 22, 2006, 04:17:31 PM: PS JEEPS, We knee no stinkin JEEPS!............:)
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Hoarach on March 22, 2006, 04:19:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by teufl
Sorry bro, in english? T

Whoops wasnt thinking when typed that.

Well seems that every time I turn on the combat trim in the 262, is his nose heavy. Before this patch the 262 would fly level with combat trim on. Now with combat trim on the 262 is really nose heavy or the trim on the combat trim is lower on the elevators causing the nose to point down.
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Hammy on March 22, 2006, 04:22:55 PM: noticed that the la7 loses wings if u pull hard now at 380ias. never did this before.
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: SirLoin on March 22, 2006, 04:45:46 PM: F4u-s ripp wings now too under heavy G
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Kazaa on March 22, 2006, 04:45:59 PM: I just found out that the 262 auto pilot does not work the hard but funny way.

Lets just say that I had to paddle back to my base. :rofl
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: teufl on March 22, 2006, 05:07:08 PM: I just wonder if this a true mistake or has HT been smokin to much and thinkin alot more? Does he want us to be more conscous of g forces? I flew arados today and they seem to have the nose heavy thing going also. Far as I'm concerned its damn hard to hit anything in the 262 OR the 163 let alone worrying about plowing the field(kazaa) or ripping off wing panels with the slightest of stick movements. We shall see if there is another patch soon. IF I FLY ENOUGH BOMBERS SOONER OR LATER I CAN BE A FITER JOCK :noid
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: MINNOW on March 22, 2006, 05:23:39 PM: Our squad did a 262 raid lastnite and I noticed right away the "nose heavy" effect in auto cruise

Also one of my guys popped a wing in a low G turn.

I wont be upping another 262 the way it is now, I'd rather lose 10 Tempests.
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: SirLoin on March 22, 2006, 05:23:50 PM: :rofl :rofl :t :rofl :rofl
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: LYNX on March 22, 2006, 06:29:29 PM: I havn't blacked out in months but done it twice in spit 16 in 1 flight. A little lite on the stick......I'll get used to it.
Title: P 51 Comet
Post by: TalonX on March 22, 2006, 06:31:23 PM: Seems the P51 has a burning issue now - never saw one burn and now saw 5 burning 51's in one day. I take it something changed.

Too bad.
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: ChopSaw on March 22, 2006, 09:54:58 PM: Quote
Originally posted by teufl
PS JEEPS, We knee no stinkin JEEPS!............:)

Yeah, all we need are stinkin fighters.:rolleyes:
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Gianlupo on March 23, 2006, 01:01:00 PM: Nope, teufl is more of a porker than a furballer.... give us some uber 110!!!!!!! :D
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Zazen13 on March 23, 2006, 01:33:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Hammy
noticed that the la7 loses wings if u pull hard now at 380ias. never did this before.

Woohooo! Wtg HTC!
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: teufl on March 23, 2006, 02:37:43 PM: Well the list extends as i fly more planes. Yes Gian you are the target drone for the WMs. Off a CV which was going straight, I ditched(crashed) 3 f4u-cs. I had changed nothing in what i was doing. I havent ditched a chog in a year! TALK TO ME DR RUTH! Also now you even think of turning an A8, and the stall horn screams and bumps begin. Well p38 seems to be ok, la5 seems to be ok(havent turned 1 going over 325 tho), the 110, well it is mentioned above. AND gian I furball more than you think. The only 1 sure thing in life is that you will die, so make it a glorous death:D
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Saxman on March 23, 2006, 05:03:09 PM: Haven't been in too many high-speed dives with my 1-Hog yet since patch, (not much flying time lately) but are you telling me not only do Zekes and Ki's still not rip their wings in high-speed, high-G maneuvers, but now the Corsair DOES? :furious
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Krusty on March 23, 2006, 05:17:44 PM: Erm... I think the 190A-8 is better than ever... I think a lot of folks agree, as I've seen many many many of them in the virtual skies recently.
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: teufl on March 23, 2006, 06:04:50 PM: Krusty? A poet and didn't know it?HAR HAR HAR :lol
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Gianlupo on March 23, 2006, 07:33:42 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Teufl

Yes, Gian you are the target drone of the WMs

...

The only 1 sure thing in life is that you will die, so make it a glorous death :D

That's what I'm doing every day, I day trying to give you some good kill.... and you don't appreciate it.... Lute told me he will kick me out of squad because I lower its K/D ratio.... :cry
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: FTJR on March 23, 2006, 07:42:27 PM: Took the ar234 up last night, It was very nose heavy, took ages to achieve level flight. Also looking at the new charts for the planes the 234 is supposed to climb at 2500 fpm at sea level. Anyone been able to achieve that?
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: DoKGonZo on March 23, 2006, 08:42:14 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
Erm... I think the 190A-8 is better than ever... I think a lot of folks agree, as I've seen many many many of them in the virtual skies recently.

The 190A8 is back. It's pretty much all I've flown since the update and it's like Old Times (sniffle).

The Ta152 is still a FPoS, of course.
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: teufl on March 24, 2006, 10:31:38 AM: AWWWWWW now i'm hurt the TA is NOT a POS just a minor poop now. Just flew the ta at GL, i can always get 4 kills, but maybe its my skill?(luck) TA needs major revamp since non perk planes can out run(HELL)out do everything its can do......................yes im aware its a hi alt plane. BTW I had 356 adware/spybot things happen since ive been here in BBS, so you talkers here beware......T ........................IF it aint good stuff, then why you puttin it in the pipe?:(
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: E25280 on March 24, 2006, 12:43:58 PM: Interesting about the "nose drop" on some aircraft.

Lately, had the opposite problem in an IL2. For some reason I have been upping them a lot this tour. Didn't notice the nose's tendency to rise until last night when it seemed nearly impossible to gently point it down at the target. Recalibrated stick, same problem (and only with IL2). Thought it was perhaps just me (still could be), but the nose drop complaints got me wondering.

Anyone else notice this?
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Saxman on March 24, 2006, 01:51:22 PM: Well, SOMETHING seems different about the dive model, 'cause I was actually able to dive out on a Spit V from roughly co-alt/E today in a Hog (Spit wasn't my concern, I've been doing decently against them this tour, it was the 2-3 buddies closing in). Used to not be able to do that, even against a V. Unfortunately for me, one of his buddies was in an ElGay and forced the fight.
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Gianlupo on March 24, 2006, 01:52:04 PM: I noticed the same nose high tendency in the Ki84, which added to the right roll tendency that I had before, despite stick calibration, in almost every plane. In other planes there's the same nose up tendency, other have a nose down one... I thought it was a issue with the way joysticks are handled by the game, not a FM issue....

What's it, Hi Tech? :confused:
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Raptor on March 24, 2006, 02:20:36 PM: I've not noticed the nose-up or nose-down tendancy. I use mouse so maybe it is something with your stick? or not?
I've noticed a few changes to FM; don't go full flaps in a turnfight anymore, it burns off all of your E. Hurricanes no longer hang on their noses like a helicopter.
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Saxman on March 24, 2006, 04:55:36 PM: I've noticed a big difference with dead-stick gliding, too. At least in the F4U airspeed decreases SIGNIFICANTLY faster once the engine cuts out than it did before (I was once able to glide ~5 miles to land on a CV starting ~2000k ASL). There's been times I COULD have made a landing before the patch that I've had to ditch instead.
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: SkyRock on March 24, 2006, 07:15:13 PM: Quote
Originally posted by wetrat
I haven't noticed a difference with 30mm in the K4... is the dispersion different or something? I've still seen a few phantom taters, so I don't think that's what you mean... I do find the K4 much more nimble now. Keep forgetting to try the G14.. how much faster is it than before?

G-14 is a beast now! Awesome!:aok
Title: Well we seem to have some flight charactoristics to fix here
Post by: Gianlupo on March 25, 2006, 12:58:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Raptor

maybe it is something with your stick?

It's surely something that has to do with stick, but I don't think it's mine in particular, I recall hearing some one else having the same issue.

As for FM, Ki 84 is the plane I fly the most, it seemed to me now it bears higher speed in diving, and torque seemed to be more relevant at slow speed.... but these are just sensations.