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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: nirvana on March 22, 2006, 10:56:07 PM
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6 months ago I go in to get my tooth filled as it was decaying and such. Being that my teeth came in decalcified, they haven't ever been super strong. Anyway, the dentists office was running a tad behind at the time so I sat down and in the novacaine went right immediately. He said he did a new way of injecting it, where he stuff one needle in the back of my throat like normal, but also stuck a shot right under my tooth to be operated on. That little experiment did not go well at all as I felt pain throughout the procedure and let him know this. I lived on, what's a little pain, you know? 10-20 minute oiperation and I was set to go. Normally a filling is 30 minutes or so.
Skip ahead to now, and I have a cavity in the same spot that was supposedly filled. What am I supposed to tell them on April 12th when they see that I have a recurring cavity? Well another couple hundred bucks down the drain cause the dentist fixed his schedule but also screwed up my tooth in the process.
Oh, I have another cavity on the other side too:(
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they should fix the first one for free if they screwed up
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he probably got in a hurry and didn't remove all of the decay before putting the filling in. you'll be lucky if it just needs replaced. it may have continued to decay under his crappy filling, setting you up to enjoy a root-canal.
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Originally posted by dmf
they should fix the first one for free if they screwed up
When you find a dentist that will do anything for free, you let us know.
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Im one of those people that are deathly afraid of dentists. I hate them, they are crazy psychos that are so bad that they cant become a real doctor so they become a tooth butcher instead. Only way I'll go is if im totally knocked out before and after I leave there.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
he probably got in a hurry and didn't remove all of the decay before putting the filling in. you'll be lucky if it just needs replaced. it may have continued to decay under his crappy filling, setting you up to enjoy a root-canal.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what happened is that in his lame attempt at catching up he figured he could get away with it.
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Im one of those people that are deathly afraid of dentists. I hate them, they are crazy psychos that are so bad that they cant become a real doctor so they become a tooth butcher instead. Only way I'll go is if im totally knocked out before and after I leave there.
I got a new dentist recently. The kid looks a little older than my own son. I think he's about 24 or 25. He's excellent. He's up to date with the current technology, hungry to build his client base and scared ****less to make a mistake.
From now on, I avoid any dentist that is over 40.
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I've got a new dentist, got a filling last week, going in tomorrow for more. Pretty neat new stuff, digital X-Rays are definately a lot better than the old one. Also, he used one of the 'caines topically before injecting my jaw so I didn't feel the needle at all.
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He's been the family dentist since we first got our teeth cleaned, and my mom went to him before we were born. The dentist that does the fillings is the main practitioner, I guess you'd call him. Our general dentist is new but I don't like her, she is always making fun of my teeth, but that's alright I guess.
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LOL! But I thought US dentists were oh-so-perfect and so much better than those of other regions of the world, if guys like Dago, Lazs, LePaul, Maverick, and storch are to be believed - all of whom berate UK dental care on a regular basis.
Sorry to hear you're having problems, Nirvana. Do you consume a lot of sugar? How old are you?
I never use sugar, eat desserts, or use confectionery - chocolate bars and the like - and I never get cavities. The only treatment I ever have is a descale and polish every 6 months, with X-Rays about once every 2 years.
:D
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Too easy.
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brush your teeth and find another dentist
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Yep, find another dentist. They're a dime a dozen.
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Im one of those people that are deathly afraid of dentists. I hate them, they are crazy psychos that are so bad that they cant become a real doctor so they become a tooth butcher instead. Only way I'll go is if im totally knocked out before and after I leave there.
Most people hate going to the dentist
You deathly afraid of keeping your teeth too?
Go to the flippen dentist.
There is no more true a saying then
"Ignore your teeth and they WILL go away"
The only one that is psychotic is you
;)
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Originally posted by beet1e
LOL! But I thought US dentists were oh-so-perfect and so much better than those of other regions of the world, if guys like Dago, Lazs, LePaul, Maverick, and storch are to be believed - all of whom berate UK dental care on a regular basis.
Sorry to hear you're having problems, Nirvana. Do you consume a lot of sugar? How old are you?
I never use sugar, eat desserts, or use confectionery - chocolate bars and the like - and I never get cavities. The only treatment I ever have is a descale and polish every 6 months, with X-Rays about once every 2 years.
:D
Actually sugar rotting your teeth is a myth.
The sugar itself isnt the problem,
ITs the bacteria sugar attracts that causes the decay.
As long as you brush and floss regularly. Sugar is not a problem
Not brushing and flossing afterwords is the problem
While I ddint find anything there about Sugar rotting your teeth
Snopes says Coke wont rot your teeth either
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tooth.asp
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Im one of those people that are deathly afraid of dentists. I hate them, they are crazy psychos that are so bad that they cant become a real doctor so they become a tooth butcher instead. Only way I'll go is if im totally knocked out before and after I leave there.
You anti dentite bastage you.
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God bless America where you can just pick up the phone book and choose from hundreds of dentists who will make an appointment for the next day or sooner.
lazs
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Actually sugar rotting your teeth is a myth.
The sugar itself isnt the problem,
ITs the bacteria sugar attracts that causes the decay.
True, but at the risk of being accused of thread hijack, the analogy I would draw upon is that sugar is like a gun, and bacteria is like an idiot. When an idiot gets a gun, anything can happen and often does - 9000 times a year in the US alone. We can't do anything about idiots, but we could do something about guns.
Similarly, I accept what you say about bacteria being the problem with regard to tooth decay - we can't eliminate bacteria, but we can sure do something about our sugar intake.
:D;)
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Tons o' sugar. It's an addiction, it really is.
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Originally posted by beet1e
We can't do anything about idiots, but we could do something about guns.
:D;)
Umm. if I answered this. My dinner invitation would most certainly be cancelled LMAO
I think we can expect Laz to be chiming in just about any time now;)
And you will have brought it upon yourself
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Originally posted by beet1e
True, but at the risk of being accused of thread hijack, the analogy I would draw upon is that sugar is like a gun, and bacteria is like an idiot. When an idiot gets a gun, anything can happen and often does - 9000 times a year in the US alone. We can't do anything about idiots, but we could do something about guns.
Similarly, I accept what you say about bacteria being the problem with regard to tooth decay - we can't eliminate bacteria, but we can sure do something about our sugar intake.
:D;)
You really should get some help with your obsession beetle. For someone who says thay are not into guns, doesn't like them and doesn't want to be near anyone who does have guns you bring them up into threads where the subject has absolutely no relevence.
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Be true to your teeth, and they won't be false to you -
Soupy Sales :D
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ROFL Drediock! The invitation still stands. :aok
Originally posted by Maverick
You really should get some help with your obsession beetle. For someone who says thay are not into guns, doesn't like them and doesn't want to be near anyone who does have guns you bring them up into threads where the subject has absolutely no relevence.
LOL - lighten up! It was an analogy!
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Most people hate going to the dentist
You deathly afraid of keeping your teeth too?
Go to the flippen dentist.
There is no more true a saying then
"Ignore your teeth and they WILL go away"
The only one that is psychotic is you
;)
I admit I am psychotic. It makes life a little more interesting and the voices agree with me
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
There is no more true a saying then "Ignore your teeth and they WILL go away"
The one I liked, which I saw in the waiting room of a dental practice in California was You don't have to floss all your teeth - just the ones you want to keep.
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It was actually a good analogy, imo.
Granted, you'll have a squadron of pigs fly out yer bellybutton before any of your bbs pals will admit it.
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God bless America where you can just pick up the phone book and choose from hundreds of dentists who will make an appointment for the next day or sooner
Hah, I can do the same here but end up paying one tenth of the price. Neener neener.
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ripley.. I have dental insurance... I don't pay for having a tooth filled.
beet... your analodgy is wrong. in the case of sugar... all sugar attracts the bacteria and the bacteria has no benificial use.
In the case of guns... only a very tiny fraction of the gun owning population uses them to commit homicides many of which are either justified or... we are better off with.. on the other hand.... the same guns are used 1.5-3 million times a year to prevent crime.
but then being from england..... I didn't expect you to know anything about either dentistry or guns. I mean.... how could you?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
ripley.. I have dental insurance... I don't pay for having a tooth filled.
lazs
Sure you did. You pre-paid for it. Insurance premiums aren't free. Someone always pays.
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they are part of my workers benifiets... of course I am paying for them in lower wages but.... I was responding in the spirt of ripleys post... If you want to go to ultimate posts then I would suggest that his high taxes are a "cost" for dental work.
lazs
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Also correct. ;)
For all intents and purposes, medicine is socialized in this country also.
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I consider myself very lucky in the teeth department. My teeth are almost 49 years old, I have not been to the dentist in 25 years. That was my last cleaning. Never had a cavity, had braces. Still have 1 baby tooth right lower canine. Chewed tabbaco for 10 years, still smoke a cigar couple times a month. Brush my teeth once in the morning, and never floss unless meat gets caught in my teeth. I asked my dentist 25 years ago why am I so lucky. He said that people have bacteria in their mouth that fights all the bad stuff and I am one of the lucky ones.
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I think genetics plays a large part in it as well.
My step mother is a dental hygienist. She says that all children are born without any bacteria in their mouths at all. The bacteria comes from sharing eating utensils and food with family members.
My teeth are okay. A few cavities, but nothing new in the last fifteen years (since I left the Navy and I take better care of myself). I have to keep on top of it. I build up calculus at a pretty high rate so I have my teeth cleaned every three months rather than twice a year as normally recommended.
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Bt you are indeed fortunate and blessed with good genetics I would say.
sandie... if you want to nit pick... we can do that.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
sandie... if you want to nit pick... we can do that.
No need... I'm done nitpicking.
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Try a toothpick....not a nitpick.
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My wife works as a dental hygenist for a really cool dentist Yesterday he was on the front page of the Philadelphia Eagles web site as their fan of the week.
He's into all the latest equipment. The newest thing he's using is a laser to drill. Really cool and no need to be numbed up.
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Originally posted by lazs2
but then being from england..... I didn't expect you to know anything about either dentistry or guns. I mean.... how could you?
Well, I'm alive, and I have no dental problems, so clearly I know enough.
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Originally posted by beet1e
all of whom berate UK dental care on a regular basis.
The UK has dental care?
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Originally posted by BTAirsol
He said that people have bacteria in their mouth that fights all the bad stuff and I am one of the lucky ones.
Kinda like a Dog huh? LMAO
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Originally posted by lazs2
In the case of guns... only a very tiny fraction of the gun owning population uses them to commit homicides many of which are either justified or... we are better off with.. on the other hand.... the same guns are used 1.5-3 million times a year to prevent crime.
lazs
Ted Kennedy has killed more people with his driving than I have with my gun.:rofl
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Back on track....my wife is a dental hygienist and my best friend is a dentist. They both say that what may have happened, as alluded to earlier, is that there may have been decay that was not properly removed prior to the first filling. They also stated that you probably didnt get novacaine....lidocaine (sp?) is what was probably used as novacaine is generally not used these days.
What should you do? Well tough call. What my buddy says who has his own practice in NM, if he did the work on the same spot and there was decay under the filling he did they would redo the filling at no charge...I am not sure of the exact time limit on that and could ask....remember as time goes by you still have the chance for more cavities. I believe you stated 6 months so Ill ask him.
On the sugar issue....whoever stated its the bacteria that causes the decay is 100 percent right on the money. Sugar has nothing to do with it except for the fact it is what the bacteria eat (for lack of a better term) and their byproducts cause the decay on the tooth.
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Originally posted by nirvana
6 months ago I go in to get my tooth filled as it was decaying and such. Being that my teeth came in decalcified, they haven't ever been super strong. Anyway, the dentists office was running a tad behind at the time so I sat down and in the novacaine went right immediately. He said he did a new way of injecting it, where he stuff one needle in the back of my throat like normal, but also stuck a shot right under my tooth to be operated on. That little experiment did not go well at all as I felt pain throughout the procedure and let him know this. I lived on, what's a little pain, you know? 10-20 minute oiperation and I was set to go. Normally a filling is 30 minutes or so.
Skip ahead to now, and I have a cavity in the same spot that was supposedly filled. What am I supposed to tell them on April 12th when they see that I have a recurring cavity? Well another couple hundred bucks down the drain cause the dentist fixed his schedule but also screwed up my tooth in the process.
Oh, I have another cavity on the other side too:(
Better dental Insurance :)
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I just got back from the dentist, he filled in a cavity in my bottom left jaw. He did the first injection of numbing agent and asked if my lips were numb after a few minutes. I say no, so he starts injecting more. As he's doing this, I realize that my lips actually ARE starting to numb, but he's already done, so I got a heavy dose. The rest of the visit went great (no cost out of pocket, last visit ended up providing a credit in my favor that covered this visit, yay insurance!) but now I sound like mushmouth whenever I talk. Habba-dabba-dooba-deyba, Fat Albert?
Oh, and drinking something was exciting, I coughed for like a minute after improperly swallowing because of the numb mouth.
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Lidocaine, novacaine, whatever -caine it was, it didn't work. They used to give 2 injections in the back of the lower and upper jaw. This time he went 1 far back and 1 right under the tooth. As i stated earlier, hius "new technique" sucked. I would love to have that laser work done though, No grinding and no pain? Count me in!
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The technique is called 'channel anesthesis' or something because when the lower jaw is numbed they have to inject the poison directly next to the main nerve ending of the jaw. This will effectively numb half of the mouth.
My dentist said that statistics show that 30% of CA's actually fail to work because the dentist didn't hit the exact spot needed.
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My dentist has shaky hands, and I am always broke anyway, so I just use tweezers :D
Bleeds a lot though :D
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30%!? That's too high. Plus the fact he didn't even get it all in, that stuff tastes horrible.
And Angus is a little loopy.;)