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Title: complete lock up
Post by: tatertot on March 23, 2006, 08:33:24 AM
Not sure if its the new game or not this has happened to me twice know 1st time i double klicked a base to go to and my whole pc locked up 2nd time i went to hanger and same thing had to reboot entire system i dont think its my system works fine in every other area other than aces high,question is does anyone else have this issue??? thanks ahead of time
Title: complete lock up
Post by: bigsky406 on March 23, 2006, 09:08:44 AM
Something doesn't seem right, I'll be on a bandits six less than 800yds then they disappear and then I start getting check6 calls??? So, IN LESS THAN A SECOND the same bandit I am about to fill with lead flies behind me and fills me with lead...? Just yesterday I had a bandit @ 300yds I pull the trigger he disappears and I find him 1.5K away diving on someone else?? Once or even twice I can write it off to internet lag time or basic computer bull sh-t but this has happened alot in the last few days.
 
The planes handling is rather unpredictable too. I'm not a great pilot but I'm not THAT bad either. In the last 3 days I have had 1 kill.... Everyone has slumps but.... Just give a guy a fighting chance.
Title: Lock Up
Post by: aerosaber on March 23, 2006, 09:19:40 AM
I too have been locking up with the new version. These locks last from 2 seconds to 10 or so. By that time I'm in the ground, or in flames. This did not occur before I downloaded the new AH.
Title: complete lock up
Post by: eh on March 23, 2006, 09:36:14 AM
No problems like any of these.  Actually, I have no problems whatsoever with the new version.

Perhaps you need to update vid card drivers? Direct X?
Title: complete lock up
Post by: aerosaber on March 23, 2006, 09:56:50 AM
New driver in a PCI Express with 256 Meg. I am using direct X 9.
Title: complete lock up
Post by: eh on March 23, 2006, 10:10:00 AM
aerosaber.

I remember having those kinds of screen freezes a year or so ago, and I experienced a few mini freezes like that (stuttering) when I got my new system a few months back. The solution for me, both times, was to select the sound tab in DirectX and reduce the sound acceleration slider to at least 75%.

Lots of system RAM helps also: AH will take up to 1.2 gigs of RAM on my 2 Gig system if I use the high res pack, while using only about 28 megs of my 256 meg vid. card. Lots of system RAM makes for smoother performance of the game.

Hope this helps. Screen freezes are really annoying.
Title: Re: Lock Up
Post by: Flatbar on March 23, 2006, 10:54:16 AM
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Originally posted by aerosaber
I too have been locking up with the new version. These locks last from 2 seconds to 10 or so. By that time I'm in the ground, or in flames. This did not occur before I downloaded the new AH.


I had a lockup  < screen freeze > last night that lasted about 15 seconds. Fortunatly I was at 13k. By the time it unlocked I was at 8k pointed straight down. This is the first lockup I've had in a year or so and the first one that unlocked. No further problems throughout the evening. Happened about 6:45pm Pacific time.
Title: complete lock up
Post by: Bodhi on March 23, 2006, 10:55:51 AM
I get some stuttering at times now....

All drivers are up to date.
Title: complete lock up
Post by: CHECKERS on March 23, 2006, 11:14:23 AM
Had first lock up this morning , white screen , then error report form ....
 AcesHigh Game crash,  was during new screen stutters & jerking stall limiter ..... in a low slow turn fight , I was useing a Spit 16 ....

 Also have not been able to make a B 26 kill,  in P51 D ,  when shooting B 26's ,
 guns in 51 are set at 300 , emptied a full clip in B 26 , start shooting at 400 and continue to a close 200, see hits all over the bommer ...
 B 26 Bommers just fly away ...... This has happened 3 times since new patch .
Title: complete lock up
Post by: dedalos on March 23, 2006, 02:51:19 PM
Had the white screen twice, but that was a week before the new update.  One thing I notice after the new update is that if you set your FPS to anything other than unlimited, the warping is amaizing.

White screen came after I went from MA to DA and back to MA.  I think both times I clicked on a field before everything had been loaded.
Title: complete lock up
Post by: tatertot on March 23, 2006, 03:42:44 PM
eh,i had to redo my hd lastg month i remember doing that a long time ago ill try it again,heres a little more info  

i think its possibly my cpu some kind of fan kicks on and i get a little stutter here and there but when it locks up i get no white or blue screen i just have kinda like a snap shot of whatever im doing at the time of the lock up could this be my video card fan and or power supply??
Title: complete lock up
Post by: RedTopp on March 23, 2006, 05:33:19 PM
I too have had a couple lockups and some stuttering. It definetly isnt my system.
Title: complete lock up
Post by: eh on March 24, 2006, 12:03:07 AM
tatertot I saw you up tonight for a long time knocking us all down in your B26s and 190s: so I presume  the stuttering and freezes have been fixed ?

There are enough similar complaints about the new version of AH2 that maybe it is the game after all. However, I played for 3 hours tonight without a hiccup. Same thing the night before. It gets curiouser and curiouser.

Specs:

Aopen AMD 64 4000+ nVidia nForce4 Motherboard PCIe
2 Gigs RAM
Aopen Aeolus (nVidia GT 6800OC) vid card with 256 MB RAM
Win XP Pro 64-bit

FR 60 - 100, with texture size 1024 using hi res pack.
Title: complete lock up
Post by: Alky on March 24, 2006, 01:24:43 AM
Been getting the temporary freezes too, it's "never" happened before in the 7 or 8 months I've been around AH :(
Title: complete lock up
Post by: Goomba on March 24, 2006, 08:03:09 AM
I get one lockup per logon, only when I hit the vox key for the first time.  Freezes for about 8-12 seconds, then smooth sailing from then on.

No exceptions, though...each and every logon, once only.

Go figure.
Title: complete lock up
Post by: Charger43S on March 24, 2006, 08:52:16 AM
I wish it was only one lockup per logon.  I am running a dual processor (64x2 Athlon) with nVIDIA GeForce 61100.  I go to a sky blue screen or lock up with a gray screen.  Also when trying to sign on at times I get a gray screen with the hangar flap rotating around the clip board.  I have had more discos than ever before since this version was loaded.  Need to find a solution.
Title: complete lock up
Post by: Goomba on March 24, 2006, 09:58:23 AM
Do you run FS Autostart?

I just found out about this thing on another thread.  Freebie, too.

Kind of a big macro, that will allow you to identify all those hidden processes running in background, and selectively shut them down for gameplay, while not actually changing any of your settings.  It starts itself, then my TrackIR, then AH in a clean, low-overhead condition.

No promises or anything, but you've got a lot of horsepower.  Should be running better.  Try this out, and see if it doesn't clear up the mystery conflict that's crashing your system.

I had few problems to begin with...plenty of horsepower, and a typical 47ms ping from New York to Dallas.   However, I could see definite improvement when running Autostart.

Good Luck  
Title: complete lock up
Post by: Skuzzy on March 24, 2006, 10:00:54 AM
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Originally posted by Charger43S
I wish it was only one lockup per logon.  I am running a dual processor (64x2 Athlon) with nVIDIA GeForce 61100.  I go to a sky blue screen or lock up with a gray screen.  Also when trying to sign on at times I get a gray screen with the hangar flap rotating around the clip board.  I have had more discos than ever before since this version was loaded.  Need to find a solution.
Disable one of the CPU cores.  It will solve most problems.  There is a bug in XP, related to the dual core AMD CPU which causes these odd problems.  Seems to be really exacerbated when using an NVidia video card as well.
Title: complete lock up
Post by: 38ruk on March 24, 2006, 10:24:37 AM
Ive seen some studder aswell , but its not at a low frame rate . My monitor cap is 100hrz, and i notice studder at 85fps at times .  It usually shows itself at higher alts when there are 8-10 planes around . I just reformated when the new version came out.

 My  Video settings are 1280X1024 2XAA,0AF Vsync enabled,  512 textures, preload in system mem , preload skins, ingame sliders @ default , running 81.98 Nvidia driver.
 
At first i thought it was my sound pack (waffle), but ive removed them and still the same . I have directx sound accell @3/4th's. Pc specs below .
Title: complete lock up
Post by: Skuzzy on March 24, 2006, 10:28:21 AM
The combination of 2XAA and 512 texture size is probably overloading the video card memory.  Just try it without AA to see if that cures the stutters.  Or turn down the max texture size to 256 and try it.

That is just a guess.  Typical stutters are resource related (i.e. running low or out of a resource).
Title: complete lock up
Post by: tatertot on March 24, 2006, 12:09:08 PM
no lock ups last night for 2 or 3 hrs,i still get the stutter when a fan kicks in but ive had this for the last year or so to anyone trying to kill me when this happens im not sure if you will see it or not.

all this as i think of it might be from my video card 999000 sent me his old ati 9800xp last year and if i was to guess it has happened since then antyone think this is a major issue or should i just muttle through it??

eh, it was a luck im sure i did have a nice run somewere around 91 last night think i had 5 kills and 2 assists mosq gave me a nice run for the money in his ki84 think maybe he had low ammo before he attacked,but i did limp her home :D
Title: complete lock up
Post by: Goomba on March 24, 2006, 12:17:19 PM
If it's directly related to the fan load, could it be a power supply issue?
Title: complete lock up
Post by: tatertot on March 24, 2006, 01:32:15 PM
yes i suppose it could be have been told that before is there a true way to tell or should i just buy a new one.I have the original in my system HP480N
MEDIA CENTER   iof i buy one any special style or model i need to look into???
Title: complete lock up
Post by: dedalos on March 24, 2006, 02:29:46 PM
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Originally posted by tatertot
no lock ups last night for 2 or 3 hrs,i still get the stutter when a fan kicks in but ive had this for the last year or so to anyone trying to kill me when this happens im not sure if you will see it or not.

all this as i think of it might be from my video card 999000 sent me his old ati 9800xp last year and if i was to guess it has happened since then antyone think this is a major issue or should i just muttle through it??

eh, it was a luck im sure i did have a nice run somewere around 91 last night think i had 5 kills and 2 assists mosq gave me a nice run for the money in his ki84 think maybe he had low ammo before he attacked,but i did limp her home :D


Hey, have you tried the Omega drivers?
Title: complete lock up
Post by: Goomba on March 24, 2006, 02:36:01 PM
I'm sure there's a right way, but I don't know it.

I know you can look up the power draw for each component, and compare the total to the power supply specs, but that could be awful time consuming if you don't have the stuff at hand.

If nobody can give you an proper way of making the right tests, I suppose you can just go for broke, add plenty of power, and see what happens.  A power supply should be pretty straightforward to replace.

If you've added any components, or changed any for something that may draw more power, you may have easily exceeded the capacity of the PS in an off-the-shelf box.  I don't think they usually put in power supplies with excess capacity for expansion, like a custom- or home-built would be likely to have.

Still...just guessing.
Title: complete lock up
Post by: tatertot on March 24, 2006, 03:03:01 PM
tnks for the imput goomba,i recently wased my hd and started from scratch overe the years ive added things here and there to boost ah i just need to remember what all ive done to restore it back the way i had it

DEDALOS,omega drivers is what i used to run thanks for reminding me i just gotta figure out which ones i need  for the ati 98ooxp pro im using

what is a normal power supply capacity??? anyone know
Title: complete lock up
Post by: Goomba on March 24, 2006, 04:11:06 PM
I remember that for awhile 250 watts was big-time.  

Now, I know I've seen 'em at 450 watts, and there are probably bigger.  Without knowing your component power requirements it's a gamble, but I'll betcha' a 400-450 watt unit would do the trick, if it's the trick that needs doing in the first place.

If you know what I mean.

Whew...it's most assuredly Friday.




Oh, yeah...you could check the output of your current PS, then get one twice the size.  Kinda like killin' flies with a sledgehammer, but hey, why do the job twice, right?  :D
Title: complete lock up
Post by: tatertot on March 28, 2006, 10:30:13 AM
ok i finaly looked up specs on my pc


motherboard
ASUS P4SD-LA with Intel 848P chipset
proc
Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz Hyper-Threading
512 ram 3200
power
200 watt (max) or greater power supply for ATX style motherboards
software
Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2004
sound
Altec Lansing 5to1
 
the power suplly is what i want you guys to see and tell me upgrade???or buy the same
Title: complete lock up
Post by: hitech on March 28, 2006, 10:41:27 AM
For those expericing long studders. Please be spefice Lockup = can't do anything and will not come back. As apposed to long  studder.

What is the mem usage showing in AH.

Are you running custom sounds?

HiTech
Title: complete lock up
Post by: tatertot on March 28, 2006, 10:45:57 AM
i will have to check the memory useage,tonight i was running custom sounds until this setupwas put out not at this time though havnt puit them back on

the lock up hasnt happened for a week know so maybe it is truly my power supply
 
i know the stuuter is not from ah i only encounter it when that fan kicks in and it happened yesterday to my son

the lockup was in ah froze the entire cpu up till i rebooted but like  ya said what is the mem useage
Title: complete lock up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 28, 2006, 10:46:07 AM
Since new version came out I get stutter--stutter----stutter.
On some occasions total freeze up for a while.
Inbound...stutter, stutter......Freeze---------> SPLAT.
Skuzz I have "Application preference" set on A-A. Is that what you are saying?
ATI-9700
Title: complete lock up
Post by: 38ruk on March 28, 2006, 03:51:06 PM
Hitech , my MEM info  is 1024mb system mem  used  538mb Tex= 211mb. Settings are 1280X1024 512 textures 2X AA 0XAF  preload in Sys mem , preload skins. ingame settings = default . Video card Mem 251mb,  Used 49mb. I'm not getting long pauses , Its more like micro stutters , even thou my frame rate never drops below 60fps , i can see these studders @ as high as 85fps . Vysnc is enabled with a 100hrz cap .  Thx