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Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: OOZ662 on March 23, 2006, 01:45:17 PM: Have never sen this one before. (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:P-51_F-15.jpg)

More P-51 images (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-51_Mustang)

I didn't know an F-15 could fly slow enough without flaps to keep with a P-51. Guess I'm uninformed. :D
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: dizman on March 23, 2006, 03:30:05 PM: Yeah, I saw that live at an airshow. The F-15 had to drop it's flaps and gear to stay steady with the 51. Cant remember but I think It was to celebrate the 60th aniversary of the P-51. I've also seen pictures of it done with a 38 and a F-15.
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Saxman on March 23, 2006, 05:13:54 PM: Couple years back during the airshow part of Fair St. Louis they had a Mustang do a flyby in formation with an F-15. I'm disappointed they didn't have the pilot run her through her paces.
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Golfer on March 23, 2006, 05:27:24 PM: Try This (http://www.furballunderground.com/Guest/Golfer/heritageflight03.wmv)

Dayton 2003.
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: OOZ662 on March 23, 2006, 06:31:19 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Golfer
Try This (http://www.furballunderground.com/Guest/Golfer/heritageflight03.wmv)

Dayton 2003.

That is what I call a digital orgasm. :O

:D
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Debonair on March 23, 2006, 06:42:25 PM: Surprising that the wake turbulence directly behind & below the F-15 didn't pwn the Mustang
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Golfer on March 23, 2006, 06:46:36 PM: He wasn't in the wake :)
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Mr No Name on March 23, 2006, 06:51:25 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Golfer
Try This (http://www.furballunderground.com/Guest/Golfer/heritageflight03.wmv)

Dayton 2003.

cool film... could hear grim talking the whole time LOL
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Golfer on March 23, 2006, 06:54:16 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Mr No Name
cool film... could hear grim talking the whole time LOL

Hub???
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: RAIDER14 on March 23, 2006, 07:07:56 PM: F-15 sounded like it throttled up a few times
Title: Re: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: SMIDSY on March 23, 2006, 11:19:25 PM: Quote
Originally posted by OOZ662
I didn't know an F-15 could fly slow enough without flaps to keep with a P-51. Guess I'm uninformed. :D [/B]

why couldnt the F-15 fly at 300 mph?
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: RAIDER14 on March 23, 2006, 11:21:43 PM: they weren't going 300mph in the vid
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: SMIDSY on March 23, 2006, 11:26:20 PM: well the stall speed of most modern fighters is about 150 knots.
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: RAIDER14 on March 23, 2006, 11:29:08 PM: he was useing flaps
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Golfer on March 24, 2006, 12:01:31 AM: F-15 in the video is clean.
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Angus on March 24, 2006, 04:11:12 AM: P51 has no problems with 250 mph so.....
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Airscrew on March 24, 2006, 08:50:25 AM: Nice film Golfer. I never understood the reason they always seem to play music at the airshows during the air demonstrations and flybys. the sound of the planes is music enough :)
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Golfer on March 24, 2006, 09:34:35 AM: Raider did you even watch the video? He popped the speed brake a bit when he was getting into formation and was clean the rest of the trip.

The P-51s were probably doing close to (+/-) 200kts. F-15 has no trouble with that number. F-16's will hang with a Mooney and Piper Apache (piston twin).

Just departed and was about 8 miles west of my home airport with a student and we leveled off at 5,500ft. Cruise checklist complete and I was thumbing through my notes on how I was going to be a sadistic evil person to this guy. Next thing I hear is a loud "Oh S#!T" and look over to see him looking at our 7-8 oclock position. I look back and there's an F-16 hanging there. I took the airplane, waggled my wings and started to tune the radio to 121.5 to talk to this guy when he rolls left, comes up underneath our airplane and accelerates ahead of us. You could clearly see the yellow checkertail trim and panther on his tail (Confirmed he was from Springfield's Training wing...same guys as this Video (http://www.furballunderground.com/Guest/Golfer/F16s.wmv) for the Ohio ANG. He lit the burner a few hundred yards ahead of us and up he went climbing for several thousand feet and leveled off heading west. Never did see his wingman...wonder if he was practicing target aquisition :O

If they can hang out with 320hp (2x 160) and 200hp GA airplanes...they can easily fly around with very high performance military airplanes with 1600hp.
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Casper1 on March 24, 2006, 09:38:11 AM: Awesome! I have to get back to Airshows...
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: 38ruk on March 24, 2006, 09:45:15 AM: It's funny , i tried googling the F-15 stall speed and couldnt find anything concrete. I find that kinda weird , i'd really be suprised if it was classifed .

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I look back and there's an F-16 hanging there. I took the airplane, waggled my wings and started to tune the radio to 121.5 to talk to this guy when he rolls left, comes up underneath our airplane and accelerates ahead of us.

I'm pretty disappointed you didnt atleast get off a snapshot on the cherry pickin bastage . You should of had his arse , and dont make excuses about what you were flyin , FEAR THE MOONEY ! lol 38
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on March 25, 2006, 06:00:45 AM: Cant wait with my Nikon and new 300mm zoom to capture airshows.
:)
Title: Re: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Furball on April 05, 2006, 04:17:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by OOZ662
Have never sen this one before. (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:P-51_F-15.jpg)

I think thats one of eagl's based out of RAF Lakenheath :)
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Pooface on April 05, 2006, 07:04:14 AM: wow, that was a really awesome vid!
Title: Try This
Post by: Spiffing on April 07, 2006, 09:08:17 AM: very, very, very, very , very cool.
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Silat on April 08, 2006, 06:11:15 AM: Quote
Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
Cant wait with my Nikon and new 300mm zoom to capture airshows.
:)

Go to bed!
Title: f-15 p-51 f-22
Post by: Blixen on April 08, 2006, 09:20:15 AM: friend snapped this on his porch
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2158/picture0020ds.jpg)
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: RAIDER14 on April 08, 2006, 11:09:55 AM: (http://www-rcf.usc.edu/~nagle/p82cl.jpg)
twin mustang
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: RAIDER14 on April 08, 2006, 11:16:07 AM: what squadron is this P51 belong to??? Do you know????;)

(http://astro.umsystem.edu/mmrca/salute2002/p51_tuskegee3_640.jpg)
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Yoshimbo on April 16, 2006, 07:20:08 PM: the 'red asses'?
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: RAIDER14 on April 16, 2006, 09:22:15 PM: Tuskegee Airmen
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Fianna on April 16, 2006, 09:26:13 PM: didn't tuskegee dudes have red tails?
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: RAIDER14 on April 16, 2006, 09:27:36 PM: yes and that is a red tail
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: RAIDER14 on April 16, 2006, 09:29:26 PM: (http://astro.umsystem.edu/mmrca/salute2002/p51_tuskegee2_1024.jpg)
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Visigothan on April 25, 2006, 12:48:49 PM: That was an awesome video! :D
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: nturbiz on May 18, 2006, 11:37:26 AM: the f-15 can fly as slow as 110 mph guys... A p-51 and f-15 can easily fly together.
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Jester on May 18, 2006, 12:25:56 PM: Whats really amazing is the size difference between the P-51 & F-15. Fighters have really grown in size over the years - you don't see them side by side often.

:aok
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Sox62 on May 18, 2006, 03:25:47 PM: They did the same thing a few years ago at Dayton with the F-14 Tomcat and the F7F Tigercat.
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: GtoRA2 on May 18, 2006, 03:41:23 PM: Quote
Originally posted by RAIDER14
(http://astro.umsystem.edu/mmrca/salute2002/p51_tuskegee2_1024.jpg)

Wasnt this plane destroyed in a crash last year?
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: AquaShrimp on May 18, 2006, 04:10:30 PM: I think it crashed, broke the wings off, and killed the pilot.
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: eagl on May 19, 2006, 07:31:31 AM: Delta wing fighters don't really have a conventional "stall". They just get progressively harder to fly and require more and more power to stay airborne as they slow down. The f-16 computer keeps it from getting too close to a true stall, and the f-15 controls typically can't force a high enough angle of attack to lose all lift as in a conventional stall.

I suppose 150 is a reasonable enough number as a practical minimum for an F-15, as below that speed a mistake could result in significant altitude loss.
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Ripsnort on May 19, 2006, 08:22:51 AM: Quote
Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
Cant wait with my Nikon and new 300mm zoom to capture airshows.
:)

For a comparison, here is what the 300mm Nikkor lens will do for you:

70mm-300, unzoomed:
(70mm)
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/10206819/146360364.jpg

at 300mm:
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/10206819/146360370.jpg
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Furball on May 19, 2006, 11:45:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by eagl
Delta wing fighters don't really have a conventional "stall". They just get progressively harder to fly and require more and more power to stay airborne as they slow down. The f-16 computer keeps it from getting too close to a true stall, and the f-15 controls typically can't force a high enough angle of attack to lose all lift as in a conventional stall.

I suppose 150 is a reasonable enough number as a practical minimum for an F-15, as below that speed a mistake could result in significant altitude loss.

Thank you Eagl :)
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: toadkill on May 19, 2006, 08:09:37 PM: im Memphis TN in '05 i saw a P51, F15, F4 and an A10. all in formation, was beautiful. blixen great picture of the 15 22 and 51
Title: Cool Photo; F-15 and P-51
Post by: Charge on May 24, 2006, 05:23:54 PM: Offtopic?

http://www.web-birds.com/13th/18th/18th-027.jpg

http://www.web-birds.com/13th/18th/44th_fs.htm

-C+