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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Eagler on August 23, 2001, 06:21:00 AM
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np - toejame happpens :)
off to NY, cu all Sunday night..
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Hopefully one of the fixes Pyro eludes to includes letting us log in via the alternate route if the primary is down. Most of us could see the alt route... but you have to log in through the primary first. I bet HT and Pyro already though of that. :)
An alternate route to the CT would rock too. :)
Lephturn
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Don't sweat it HTC, we understand!
(Twirls hangmans noose while looking for skuzzy)
Just KIDDING! :)
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No problem with it here, toejam happens...
Hey leph this was posted by wilbus in the CA forum :
"Might very well bee, try and log in via "Main arena Old" and "Main arena old alt" routes, when i did that, I got into the CT."
Dunno if this is an 'true' alt route tough..
Regards.
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yeah HTC, its not like we're gonna die without AH for a day or two. But three might be another story ;)
I know you guys were really drying up those Craggenmore bottles and dutifully coding my P-61, I understand :D :D :D
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Bingo Leph. While I was sittin there lastnight watchin' the timeouts, I was thinking the same thing. I could see the silly route, lol.
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When everybody got dumped last night 7 of us were left in the MA happily playing away.
Once we realised everybody else had dumped we soon realised we had all logged in via the Alt route when we originally joined.
Unfortunately it seems as we each lost our rides that was when we also got kicked.
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Worst outage I have had to endure in 6 years of doing this.
I was here at about 2:30am when they finally got the fiber cable repaired and lights started to flash again. Had to be the longest day I have ever endured. Not from a time point of view, just the stress of knowing you guys were without yer fix and there was not a dang thing I could do about it.
The true downside of fiber. It takes an enormous amount of time to repair a fiber cable that has been yanked from its home by a backhoe.
I suspect to see the circuits bouncing all day today while they make permanent repairs.
Sigh.
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So basicly what your saing is that conx will be toejame in the arenas today?
Regards.
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Beer for Skuzzy! WTG, it's appreciated.
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Maniac, everything may run smooth as silk, but then I just saw a 5 minute bounce 10 minutes ago.
I am familiar with what happens when a backhoe rips a telephone cable from the ground, and it is not a pretty sight.
The cable not only eventually gets sheared at the backhoe, but it is usually ripped partially, if not fully from the junction box it interconnects to.
The rip in the cable is just the start. Any stress fractures in the fiber will cause very odd things to happen to the signal it is carrying. Attenuation is totally out of spec for the strand at that point and it must be replaced.
Now, I have not seen the physical damage that occurred, so it is possible everything will be fine, but I just wanted to let the community know there is a chance of the MAIN bouncing a bit today.
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Thx skuzz!
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Skuzzy, Getting "biffed" sucks!
I know Skuzzy has heard this term.
For the ones that have no idea what a BiFF is.
Backhoe induced Fiber Failure
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Yea... they prob placed a "splice". They might have to run an entire span of new fiber after checking the old span for any fractures... can you say outage?
xBAT
P.S. Hey you know whats sooooo cool about fiber and the way its engineered... its suppose to be redundent. The funny thing is both sides of the ring are found in the same cable... go fiqure. We saw it here during a an icestorm...
[ 08-23-2001: Message edited by: batdog ]
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Sooooo how much scotch and soda blew through your nose when the lights went out? :)
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Scotch AND soda... what wienie drinks that.
Its gotta be strieght!!!!
To tell if you enjoy liqure is easy. Stand infront of a mirror and take a swig from the bottle... then look at your facial reaction. Take about 8-10 more good swigs and then look again... see the difference? :cool: ;)
xBAT
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This topic is why I really love this group of people. Although I am new around here and you guys are getting easy kills off me, I really love the game and community. It is so refreshing to see when there are server issues everyone isn't cussing and yelling like a bunch of 3 year olds.
Again thanks HTC and all who play Aces High. Great game and great group of people. Now it is time for me to jump in my 109 and go get shot down again. :)
Boklour
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" It is so refreshing to see when there are server issues everyone isn't cussing and yelling like a bunch of 3 year olds."
Part of it is the candid and honest explanation for the outage. Players were not automatically told it was "thier problem" or later on tha "well, something happened, we don't know what it was but it looks all ok now but you need to update to winsock version 2" :)
Another part of it is that a good number of folks here (at this point in time anyway) know the nature of internet, problems in online playing and what causes most problems.
But the number one reason you don't see folks typically have a hissy fit is Skuzzy. :) He is THE man. And no one else (re: other MMPOG's) have anyone like him. :D
Westy
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Skuzzy,
About six years ago, I had the privilege of visiting one of MCI's "junctions" in Denver. During the tour, they took us inside a mobile repair station and demonstrated for us the "splicing" of a single fiber thread. Each end has to be grabbed hold of and magnified thousands of times just to be able to match them up, then you have hit it with just enough laser to fuse them back together again. If your lucky, the new join doesn't have too much signal loss to ruin the connect, only degrade it a bit. Once you've tested that circuit out, you go on to the next, and the next, and the next. Some of these cables can contain hundreds of individual fibers, depending upon the size of the trunk line. I can't imagine "patching" a fiber cut under even the most ideal conditions, much less in the field with storms all around. I guess we can be thankful it wasn't winter time ;)
I'm sorry it was so stressful from your end, though I think it needn't be. Most of us are adults and can handle it. Some of us could even use the time to reconnect with our families! I know I did.
Let me take this opportunity to once again thank the entire HiTechCreations crew for the outstanding product they have produced and their unmatchable attention to the details, big and small!
<SALUTE>
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Well,.they have come a ways in the ability to patch fiber. Depending on the tool, it can be accomplished in about 2 minutes per strand, in the field.
Although, when something like this happens, they do have to run a new fiber trunk to replace it as the patches take too much space and can cause strain on the fiber, whci will eventually cause a failure to occur.
When they do run a new trunk, the patch panel for the fiber, in the junction box, usually has enough capacity to carry the new trunk and allow them to switch to the new trunk pretty quickly without much downtime at all.
By the way, thanks for all the positive remarks and compliments. They are appreciated.
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Skuzzy how is work coming on the chimp-with-telegraph backup system? I've almost perfected the banana pellet dispenser.
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LOL funked! I needed that.
Heck, I was on the verge of hauling my kite string over to Savvis, but the beer cans did not carry enough capacitance and the attentuation was really off. :D
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I don't know if it's the same in the States, but in the UK there's a limit to how many repairs can be carried out on any one discreet length of cable (and it's a low limit, only one or two, depending on spec).
Any more than that and the cable gets changed..the whole thing.
The fun may just be starting.... :)