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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Lazerr on March 27, 2006, 10:08:00 AM
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You guys turned the rooks into a bunch of landgrabbers.
Prepare to get hunted....:t
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Resistance is Futile :D
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im with lazer.
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LOL, okay - come and git some! :lol
You know where to find us!
No, on second thought. Don't bother looking for us.
I'm sure we'll be paying a visit to you soon enough! :cool:
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yea im scared
:noid
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You'll know you've made the Big Time when you've got enemies, and they start calling you out.
:aok
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Originally posted by tedrbr
You'll know you've made the Big Time when you've got enemies, and they start calling you out.
:aok
LOL the big time. How will we recognize you inside the horde?
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Originally posted by Guppy35
LOL the big time. How will we recognize you inside the horde?
It will be a BIG horde. :)
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haha, and I will find it, I promise. ;)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
LOL the big time. How will we recognize you inside the horde?
I'll be the one curled up on the floor of my cockpit...not with fear..but doubled over with laughter!
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Originally posted by Guppy35
LOL the big time. How will we recognize you inside the horde?
Look in the midle
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i mean you gotta admit guys gettin 50 people to attack a base with you is pretty skillfull:noid :noid
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and by the way being the best at stealing bases is like being the smartest kid with down syndrome
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Originally posted by Lazerr
You guys turned the rooks into a bunch of landgrabbers.
Prepare to get hunted....:t
Um you can thank the RJO for that.
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Havent seeen 2 loose cannon association pile-its I can't pwn at the same time yet!:aok
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boo rooks! We need a country with no troops anywhere and ftrs only..the old one used to be called rookland but the dream is no more..back to the lowly knits I go :0
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Originally posted by 96Delta
LOL, okay - come and git some! :lol
You know where to find us!
No, on second thought. Don't bother looking for us.
I'm sure we'll be paying a visit to you soon enough! :cool:
Already have hunted and shot down most of your members already. Each one I have found has been in nothing but that lame little russo POS lgay7. Get behind one of them and what do they do sit there for my guns from my p38 just go start whipping out bullets at their little planes like their is no end. After seeing their plane go boom into the ground I feel so much better. :t
Not to hard to find them, they either swarm in mass on a base where there is a furball in buffs or flying a little POS lgay7. :rolleyes:
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"Love is a word that is constantly heard,
Hate is a word that is not.
Love, I am told, is more precious than gold.
Love, I have read, is hot.
But hate is the verb that to me is superb,
And Love but a drug on the mart.
Any kiddie in school can love like a fool,
But Hating, my boy, is an Art."
-- Ogden Nash
Welcome to the Dark Side, dweeblets. My World.
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I youse to love the rooks furball all day and night any time now it`s all about takeing base`s WTF happend. I dont mind takeing a base. It seems some guys can`t fly with out 20 other guys all in spit 16 or La7 `s this is sad. I remmber when the rooks were the under dog`s and Sunday`s we would get together and kick as@ . I love the guys on the rook side good guys and love to fly with them but to many guys on one side is just not fun for anyone but score the hores!:p
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FWIW ... the LCA missions never call for La7s. The most Spit16's I ever saw in a mission was like 4 - there's usually more C47's than Spits. Sorry to disappoint.
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I was not talking about LCA were did I say that . I was talking about being on the other side of the coin:O
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
FWIW ... the LCA missions never call for La7s. The most Spit16's I ever saw in a mission was like 4 - there's usually more C47's than Spits. Sorry to disappoint.
Yer scaring me. What have you done with DoK?
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Originally posted by scot12b
I was not talking about LCA were did I say that . I was talking about being on the other side of the coin:O
Hoarach was.
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Hoarach was.
You misquote me. I speak of saying that you can either find them flying a lgay7 or a big ol buff.
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Originally posted by Hoarach
You misquote me. I speak of saying that you can either find them flying a lgay7 or a big ol buff.
If by "them" you mean LCA, then you are mistaken about the La-7's being used on missions.
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
"Love is a word that is constantly heard,
Hate is a word that is not.
Love, I am told, is more precious than gold.
Love, I have read, is hot.
But hate is the verb that to me is superb,
And Love but a drug on the mart.
Any kiddie in school can love like a fool,
But Hating, my boy, is an Art."
-- Ogden Nash
Welcome to the Dark Side, dweeblets. My World.
~sniffle~
That's beeyooteefull.
culero (touched)
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Originally posted by sniper68
and by the way being the best at stealing bases is like being the smartest kid with down syndrome
:rofl
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elfie :)
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Um...sorry DokGonZo.....but LCA do run a fighter sweep mission profile from time to time called Red Star Rising, which is _only_ Russian aircraft.... LA-7's included. Prefer the La-5 and Yaks myself.
Tora, Tora, Tora is all Japanese planes..... we've upped fighter sweeps with only C205's before, or other less used planes. Mixed results, since many members unfamiliar with a particular model we choose sometimes, but still fun.
We'll fly anything really.... though 110's dominated for a while, and Lancs for many buff runs, but we've gotten away from them a bit. Spits....rarely do I see a LCA associate in a Spit of any kind..... that's one ride we do seem to avoid.....
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We also seem to avoid the German fighters which I don't fully understand. Just an oversight I guess.
Had a great night last evening in a 190A-8 and the 109K.
Gonna have to play with those rides for a while and build
some German aircraft missions. :D
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What's an Lca?
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The LCA stands for "Loose Cannons Alliance".
We are a ROOK Mission Alliance of both squad and non-squad
members who join together for the purpose of taking
bases and running missions. The bigger the better!
We get pretty big at times and can Ccome pretty close
to dominating any area of the map we choose to operate in.
That bothers some people who only want to dogfight
and who don't enjoy the base-taking nature of the game.
We've been called "Landgrabbers", "Fun Police" and other
terms of affection but we still love the furball crowd even
if they are a bit myopic. :eek:
Besides, they run great interference for us as we capture bases. :)
To learn more visit our web site (http://david.tenifer.com/aceshigh/).
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Ahhhhhhhhhh....a horde. How original
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Nahhh...you got it all wrong..
Its an organized horde! :aok
Think of us as locusts on steroids. :D
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In other words Max, they hunt out furballs and pork the fields to death. Just see a swarm of dweeb rides and buffs coming at you, you know its them. They will just pork the field to death and not necessarily take the base. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by 96Delta
The LCA stands for "Loose Cannons Alliance".
All this time I thought it was "Line Check Airman".
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Originally posted by 96Delta
...snip....
Think of us as locusts on steroids. :D
Before you decide to go on those "locust" swarm missions all the time, might want to consider:
Those who use steroids too much may develop smaller gonads. [/COLOR]
(No offense intended -- I just couldnt suppress the urge to make the crack)
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...and insects have pretty small gonads to begin with!
(Hmmm.... which makes "locust horde" all the more appropriate, I guess.
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LCA? lol
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Wherever and whenever there is a form of organization to do something else than turning and turning with an eternally pushed fire button I say welcome; if declaring war means that a bunch of lonely furballers are pushed to organize to have some kind of response.....well..... that's not bad at all in conclusion...
And no I'm not a rook :p
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Originally posted by stegor
Wherever and whenever there is a form of organization to do something else than turning and turning with an eternally pushed fire button I say welcome; if declaring war means that a bunch of lonely furballers are pushed to organize to have some kind of response.....well..... that's not bad at all in conclusion...
And no I'm not a rook :p
Ahh, so forcing folks to play a certain way is what you are after?
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If the "lonely furballers" notice at all, they'll probably only notice that there's more targets in the furball. :)
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Y'know, reading through this idiotic topic just makes me want to do half the crap you're already accusing me of doing. Well done.
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Whew.......thank you LCA. JBz geting tired of fighting 5 Bish/Rook........then 10..........then 20.......... then 30.........etc.
Now they have some other squad to hunt down :p
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Originally posted by YUCCA
LCA? lol
Say it! Come on.
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It seems the LCA and the BOPs will have a lot of fun against each other.
!
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HAAAAAARRR!!!
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so forcing folks to play a certain way is what you are after?
Don't capsize the situation.
If some players wants to organize to play AH as a war, landgrabbin and capturing fields are they in their right??
If you want to furball, ignoring all the rest is nonetheless your right.
If you want to furball pretending that others don't play as they like cause you have to find everlasting fuel and ammo, you don't like ack cause they disturb your furballing, and so ont , this is forcing folks.
If you don't like players organizing in groups to do what this game tries to recreate, a simulated war, either go flying your furball without giving an eye at what happens on land or organize another group to counteract them
This is a choice, in either way, no forcing anyone
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This is a choice, in either way, no forcing anyone
when somebody comes to "Fighter Town"/"Tank Town" and takes down FH/VH, that is exactly what they are doing.
You can in fact win the map without ever touching those 3 bases. its a fact. the war winning types CAN WIN THE WAR WITHOUT TOUCHING THOSE 3 BASES....ITS A FACT!!!!! so when they do take any of those 3 bases, they are inentionally ruining the fun, the way somebody else wants to play.
now, ive seen the, "last base to win reset" thing, sure.
now, is there any "war winners" that can say for a fact, that they HAVE TO take one of those 3 bases to win? It is a must? Dont think so.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Ahh, so forcing folks to play a certain way is what you are after?
No one is forcing anyone to do anything.... if you don't want to fly with or against the horde, move to another part of the map. Dar bars are great ain't they :D
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Originally posted by Alky
No one is forcing anyone to do anything.... if you don't want to fly with or against the horde, move to another part of the map. Dar bars are great ain't they :D
That's the point. There is a certain area on the map for us to move to that has been designated Fighter Town. The issue hasn't been furballers rebuilding FHs to tick off the tool shedders. It's been the tool shedders deciding that wrecking fighter town is the way to go
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Been palying Aces High 2 for a while now after leaving warbirds due to dwindling numbers and one thing i notice is that furballers think they are almighty,supremely skilled omni-intelligent super heros or something :rolleyes: Sure furballing takes skill but so does droping a perfectly placed bomb or getting a direct hit on a tiger with a rocket. I love flying with the LCA, it actually feels like being part of a ww2 mission as opposed to upping a fighter and heading into a fight at 5k (which i see all the time and is really stupid). If you don't like hoardes or people landgrabbing then go to the DA (Don't understand y they don't make the DA into a fighter town and leave the MA to those who want to play the game they way it's designed) Nothing makes me laugh more then when someone complaines that the fighter hangers are down and they can't vulch newbies who are dumb enough to up at a capped field :lol
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Any pinhead can drop a bomb..so get over yourself.
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Originally posted by Gryphons
Been palying Aces High 2 for a while now after leaving warbirds due to dwindling numbers and one thing i notice is that furballers think they are almighty,supremely skilled omni-intelligent super heros or something :rolleyes: Sure furballing takes skill but so does droping a perfectly placed bomb or getting a direct hit on a tiger with a rocket. I love flying with the LCA, it actually feels like being part of a ww2 mission as opposed to upping a fighter and heading into a fight at 5k (which i see all the time and is really stupid). If you don't like hoardes or people landgrabbing then go to the DA (Don't understand y they don't make the DA into a fighter town and leave the MA to those who want to play the game they way it's designed) Nothing makes me laugh more then when someone complaines that the fighter hangers are down and they can't vulch newbies who are dumb enough to up at a capped field :lol
I don't recall anyone saying that furballers were super heros. I'd also not be foolish enough to suggest a horde mission represents any sort of WW2 mission of any kind. It's a game after all, not WW2. And you clearly have little clue on what the ACM guys enjoy as vulching isn't one of those things. That's for the guys who want to see their name in lights and get their 'attaboys' for landing 20 'kills'. That is anything but furballing. To me that's how the horde warriors operate in hopes of feeling like a 'fighter pilot'.
So you are advocating a furball arena to seperate the 'furballers' from the land grabbers? I kinda doubt HTC is going to do that. I must admit at this point the idea is more appealing however as 'race to the reset' really seems to have taken hold of the MA.
Of course I believe the idea of Fighter Town was to allow the ACM guys to coexist in the MA with the tool shed warriors. But again the Tool shed warriors seem intent on wrecking that too.
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Nothing makes me laugh more then when someone complaines that the fighter hangers are down and they can't vulch newbies who are dumb enough to up at a capped field
Funny ... that is exactly what the horde does ... and your promoting it ... sounds like tons of fun ... 20+ planes circling the airfield waiting and hoping to be able to dive down on someone who thinks they may have a chance to get up.
Gobs of skill are required to do that ... :rolleyes:
I'd rather stick sharp pencils in my eye.
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I like flying large missions (hoardes) because it gives you lots of people to fly with who share the same goal as you, the destruction and take-over of an enemy field. I wasn't trying to say the acm guys lacked skill or anything like that, it just seems like many (not all) of them feel that if your not furballing you wasting everyones time, or ruining the arena for everyone one else. Hoarding doesn't ruin the arena it just makes it fun for those of us who like to lay down a massive assult. Sure there are some who will fly in hoarde for protection whatever but for the most part it's just people who like to do attack missions. So I apologize to anyone who i may have offended with my statement was trying to stress that bombers and jabo's are always going to be part of the game and those missions are more fun with numbers.
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Originally posted by Gryphons
I like flying large missions (hoardes) because it gives you lots of people to fly with who share the same goal as you, the destruction and take-over of an enemy field. I wasn't trying to say the acm guys lacked skill or anything like that, it just seems like many (not all) of them feel that if your not furballing you wasting everyones time, or ruining the arena for everyone one else. Hoarding doesn't ruin the arena it just makes it fun for those of us who like to lay down a massive assult. Sure there are some who will fly in hoarde for protection whatever but for the most part it's just people who like to do attack missions. So I apologize to anyone who i may have offended with my statement was trying to stress that bombers and jabo's are always going to be part of the game and those missions are more fun with numbers.
When is the last time you heard a furballer yelling at everyone for not flying FT? You will hear a furballer comment on buff that levels the FH's when everyone else is dogfighting, in particular at FT since that was intended for furballing.
You will however hear the GenErAlz howling mad every night at folks for not being in certain parts of the map to defend something, and you will hear them howling about winning the reset every night.
As for flying with a group of people with the same purpose. I fly with a squad that likes to fly 38s and likes to furball. On any given night we'll have anywhere from 8-12 folks up at a time and we certainly enjoy flying together. What's fun for us is running into a like number of bad guy fighters and having at it. "Fighter Sweeps" are most definately a group operation. The most frustrating part of it is when you fly that sweep to the large dar bar and over the radio comes the call "FH's down!" as it quickly becomes a wasted trip. Not because the intent is to vulch a field, but because the hope is you'll find fighters in the air and be able to see how well you can wing with someone, and if you are any good in the air. Testing yourself against another live person in a plane is the challenge, not destroying a building that can't fight back.
But that's how I enjoy the game. You enjoy it your way, but don't wreck the little area where I can find that fight if I want to as FT in particular doesn't affect the outcome of your 'war'.
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^^^
I agree with everything he said :aok
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The buff drivers should not be porking FH's at a field they have no intention of taking. If they're part of a horde, even a small horde that wants to grab a field, that's different, but these clowns that go porking FH's where people are just furballing is rude. FT and TT should be un-takeable.
Organized mayhem such as LCA is fine, nothing stopping the other countries doing the same. If you don't want to be part of the great land grab, move to another part of the map, the worst that can happen is we get faster map rotation. The few perks you get for winning the war can't be that important. There's lots of room for everyone to have their own style of fun without ruining someone else's!
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You want to stop lca ?
go out and kill em
every one cry for horde but no one try to stop it, you know why ?
because more of the pilots afraid to die and loose points
The biggest fun in this game is what i call (and is) Battle Fever.
20 vs 20, 30 vs 30 in furballs counting (or trying) 2-5 or 7 positions of the enmy fighters trying to kill more and staying alive
but also in field attacks swiming between
thousand tracers from field acks ( in the sunset) and 10-20 flacks, with
7-10 cons on your 6 @ 800-1000 yards. And surviving.
To stop a attacking horde you need a furballers horde.
The problem is the attackers are used in team work, furballers are thinking only their self. They dont feel well in team work.
(maybe some squads can do the job, but usually you need more than one squad).
You dont like hordes ? dont go to the next easy field.
Go up and fight the horde. If you can ;)
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no kidding hades?! guess thats why i kept upping at 39 yesterday to stop the 2 dar bars of rooks with about 10 nits trying to defend. the whole time, 1-2 hours, rooks kept dropping FHs....rooks didnt get the field. Il2s and osties held them off for the most part. was great hearing the whine "up a few more flaks nits" with all FHs ded and 2 dar bars there.
must've been that great organization and leadership the rooks have in their hordes.
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Originally posted by killnu
must've been that great organization and leadership the rooks have in their hordes.
Dont forget the skill. I upped a 202 during the vulch and within 20 seconds I had 3 kills (all three augered fighting for the vulch). I turned around and landed them, :rofl
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Originally posted by Max
Ahhhhhhhhhh....a horde. How original
A Large generally skillless horde:)....straight out of "enemy at the gates". It doesnt really fit but....
The man with the bomber bombs....when the man with the bomber dies the man with the clip picks up the bomber and bombs:).
Simply proves that attrition is the most important variable in warfare.
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Originally posted by humble
A Large generally skillless horde:)....straight out of "enemy at the gates". It doesnt really fit but....
The man with the bomber bombs....when the man with the bomber dies the man with the clip picks up the bomber and bombs:).
Simply proves that attrition is the most important variable in warfare.
You're describing the typical Bish attack there.
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I can't believe that people are still posting
on this thread.
Click "Start"
Click "Programs"
Click "Aces High"
Lanch Aces High...and play the game! :aok
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Originally posted by 96Delta
I can't believe that people are still posting
on this thread.
Click "Start"
Click "Programs"
Click "Aces High"
Lanch Aces High...and play the game! :aok
Yep, but you didn't. Instead you came here and posted that you can't believe people are still posting in this thread :rofl
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I like them. If I notice the dar bar growing behind the front line in time, this is a quick way to get 5-7 kills in FW-190A8.
The problem is to find a base to land after that, since the horde is vulching every base in the area.:lol
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Originally posted by 96Delta
I can't believe that people are still posting
on this thread.
Click "Start"
Click "Programs"
Click "Aces High"
Lanch Aces High...and play the game! :aok
I can't believe that you're suggesting how people should have fun with AH :cool: :D :lol
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Lol, I can't believe the crybabies are still whining about all this.
...wait, yes I can....hahahaha
I love the "I'll pwn you" posts too....I know I've pwned a few of you big talkers as well.....so get over it.
You gripe and whine when we are getting beat because "the rooks are sad, they have no organization", blah blah blah....then we organize something and you whine about that....lol, now that's pathetic!
It's a game. We all pay our monthly fee and we play. If you don't like how someone plays, or what they fly, well....tough noogies.
If you aren't having fun, then don't play, find another game. I didn't sign on here to adjust myself to suit "your" fun factor.
You talk about taking FT is dumb...I'll tell you what's dumb was putting FT on an MA map...that was dumb. It's even dumber to think you can corner yourself in it and expect everyone else to ignore you. You want to play your little fighter only game, then get your little group up and go to the TA if you don't like what's happening in the MA. No one's stopping you.
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then get your little group up and go to the TA if you don't like what's happening in the MA.
uh oh, a smart one :rolleyes:
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I think I used to respect AKs. I can't remember why :confused:
Taking or destroing FT or TT is not dumb. It is just imature, disrispectfull to others, and childish behavior. There is no reason for it other than messing with someone elses fun. But, it is an online game and people like you thrive in on line games and places where you can remane anonimus or dont have to take responsibility for your actions. You should however give that behavior a try in the real world, see how it works out for you.
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Lol, I take responsibility, but thanks for tryin....
Yep, I helped with the FT...and I'll do it again, any day.
Take your whining and crying about the FT somewhere else. Like I said, I ain't paying monthly to make you happy or provide your "fun".
And as mentioned before, "dumb" was putting an FT on an MA map.
As for anonymous, hardly. What about me personally is it you need/want to know? My phone number? My address? What's next, threats of bodily harm? Had one punk here already try that. I have nothing to hide, so what is it you want to know?
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Originally posted by AKWarp
Lol, I take responsibility, but thanks for tryin....
Yep, I helped with the FT...and I'll do it again, any day.
Take your whining and crying about the FT somewhere else. Like I said, I ain't paying monthly to make you happy or provide your "fun".
And as mentioned before, "dumb" was putting an FT on an MA map.
As for anonymous, hardly. What about me personally is it you need/want to know? My phone number? My address? What's next, threats of bodily harm? Had one punk here already try that. I have nothing to hide, so what is it you want to know?
What's sad is your complete lack of any sort of respect for any other players.
You seem intent on disrupting someone elses idea of fun in AH because it doesn't fit your idea of fun. You even call it FT so you recognize it as such.
You can contribute to the betterment of the game or to making it worse. The guys doing the maps are trying to contribute to making the game better. You then insult them for trying to provide an alternative to the players who aren't caught up in land grab. You seem intent on making the game worse and will disrupt it where you can 'because I can' as one guy bombing FT said to me one night. That's not real impressive.
As for the cyber tough guy routine....that gets old too. Might want to give it a rest.
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"If you don't like what we do, go play in another arena"
Gee, there's a new idea.
Dan, you said it well. Everyone talks of furballers vs shedders, but I'm starting to think the friction in the MA is not due to either; it's become a conflict of enthusiasts vs griefers.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Dan, you said it well. Everyone talks of furballers vs shedders, but I'm starting to think the friction in the MA is not due to either; it's become a conflict of enthusiasts vs griefers.
I think you've hit the nail on the head there...That's exactly the 2 spectrums of attitudes present here and in the game that seems to indicate their actions...
Zazen
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Everybody his own fun
I understand both sides
Im totaly zen.
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Originally posted by Zazen13
I think you've hit the nail on the head there...That's exactly the 2 spectrums of attitudes present here and in the game that seems to indicate their actions...
Zazen
I dunno, Zazen. My opinion, those who dismiss someone as a "griefer" simply because they don't dig the same style of play are pretty much intolerant and/or arrogant. I'd agree that griefing is a factor here, but I also think its true for only a minority of the folks that are being accused of it. Some folks simply enjoy different things in the game.
culero
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Ding Ding Ding....finally, someone that gets it. Wtg Culero and Bug.
And Guppy, I respect many players in this game, but only those where respect is due. I don't set out to disrupt anyone's game on purpose, but my goal is to take bases and win the war, that's why I play. You don't have to like it, or like me, or respect my opinion.
As for the "tough guy" thing, there's no "tough guy" routine here. The guy made a comment about being anonymous over the internet. You can think what you want, I don't care. As I said, I have nothing to hide, and I certainly ain't about to "hide" from any of you. It has nothing to do with being a "tough guy"...it's about some punk using a convenient excuse to be an idiot. It's happened in the MA to me many times. Many punks send PM and say all sorts of crap, threaten, etc. Tell me they'll beat my arse, etc, etc, ad nauseum. I simply call them out. So who's being the tough guy? The one making threats and puffing up their chest. I never send a PM and call someone a name or threaten them simply because they shot me down (right RTMoose? or Baba?).
As for alternatives, I gave some. Make the bases in FT where they can't be taken, or take the furballing to the TA, or create a whole new arena just for that. But speaking of "interupting" peoples fun, I often see furballers hanging at bases and doing nothing but vulching. It becomes clear that there is no base taking intent. When that happens, I just go elsewhere, but that's the point all the furballing crybabies don't get. There are plenty of other bases and fights to be had.
Waaaaaaaaaa...I have to fly five or ten minutes to get to a fight
Waaaaaaaaaa...they won't fight the way I want them to
Waaaaaaaaaa...I have to climb to 10K or more to fight
Waaaaaaaaaa...the odds aren't even (as if they ever are in FT)
Waaaqaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa
Lol, I'm a "senior member" in here...since 2001 in this forum and I have a whopping 213 posts. I don't usually come in here simply because it's nothing but a whinefest....and apparently, it still is. Maybe I'll come back in another couple years....here's betting that it won't have changed at all....hahahahaha.
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I will state 1 problem the last time I was in FT on donut.
Rooks had 2 bases knits had 1. Rooks were bringing wave after wave of buffs . Most of the knits were shooting down the buffs some just continued to furball. So I upped a tif and proceeded to to go pork ords.
Now here comes the problem. I had a guy follow me to both bases mind you. I take ords out at 1 base. he vulches1or 2 planes. I say to myself ehh good enough i it'll let me get away for the next base. I look off my 6 and he is following me. Hmmm escort np . I then pick off a napping 110, and proceed to the next base. I kill all but 1 ords bunker but it is soft. My little tag along is vulching . I politely ask him on range to pop that last ords so buff will stop upping. He then tells me sorry he cant he is in a yak and needs all ammo for nme planes.
Furballers who complain about the buffs and base capture, and won't lift a finger to help stop it ????? People if HT won't remove ords and troop transport, police it ourselves. It took me about 15 min to do what i did.
Now if just 2 people would take a little time out of there precious furball. That they wish to preserve, it would take about 7 1/2 min. Or are you all to important to help keep the furball going.
Sorry for the rant but if you don't want to help ,your part of the problem also.
Bronk
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warp... you are saying that there is no such thing as griefers? I would dissagree. If your only purpose is to have fun by making sure that as large a group as possible is deprived of same....
I do think you serve a purpose tho. you make people aware that sometimes game elements need to be changed to keep you from simple griefer play.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Originally posted by Gryphons
Been palying Aces High 2 for a while now after leaving warbirds due to dwindling numbers and one thing i notice is that furballers think they are almighty,supremely skilled omni-intelligent super heros or something :rolleyes: Sure furballing takes skill but so does droping a perfectly placed bomb or getting a direct hit on a tiger with a rocket. I love flying with the LCA, it actually feels like being part of a ww2 mission as opposed to upping a fighter and heading into a fight at 5k (which i see all the time and is really stupid). If you don't like hoardes or people landgrabbing then go to the DA (Don't understand y they don't make the DA into a fighter town and leave the MA to those who want to play the game they way it's designed) Nothing makes me laugh more then when someone complaines that the fighter hangers are down and they can't vulch newbies who are dumb enough to up at a capped field :lol
Funny, I don't ever recall seeing you in the MA. JABO and bombing takes less skill. Put me in a Hellcat, any GV I drop on is toast, or hanger.
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Originally posted by Bronk
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My little tag along is vulching . I politely ask him on range to pop that last ords so buff will stop upping. He then tells me sorry he cant he is in a yak and needs all ammo for nme planes.
Furballers who complain about the buffs and base capture, and won't lift a finger to help stop it ?????
Bronk that guy doesn't sound like a "furballer". You've described a "cherrypicker". Big difference.
culero
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Originally posted by culero
I dunno, Zazen. My opinion, those who dismiss someone as a "griefer" simply because they don't dig the same style of play are pretty much intolerant and/or arrogant. I'd agree that griefing is a factor here, but I also think its true for only a minority of the folks that are being accused of it. Some folks simply enjoy different things in the game.
culero
remember. the big issue here was the taking of FT. furballers are not asking for strat guys to stop taking bases, they were just asking for FT to be left alone, the same way TT has been asked to be left alone. imho asking for 3 fields, 1 field for each country, on 1 map to be left out of the land grab equation is hardly intolerant or arrogant. in total we are asking for about 1% of all bases to be left alone....leaving 99% of the rest of the bases, i would say that is a fair compromise. if you ask me the intolerance comes when 1 part of the community asks for such a small concession, and is greeted with a bunch of "stick its"
i'm sure the next time the FT map comes up, a bunch of these squads will run missions for the sole purpose of "griefing" the furballers. you are right some folks do enjoy different things in the game, and it is up to the community to have some tolerance/respect for this. i think most furballers can respect other forms of gameplay even though they do not enjoy, though everyday i suspect the latter is not the case.
we get all these comments about furballers only want to vulch and so on and so forth. that is like saying all strat guys do is suicide hangars. niether is true, and there are some strat guys who are good sticks. lets filter out the dweebs here. also i might point out, that most furballers could care less about strategic parts of the field....it is up to you strat guys to do the job, remember we don't care about taking a base....you do, so don't get mad at us when you can't seal the deal.
i can accept the fact that there will always be hordes and that there will be base taking, i am fine with that. horde the whole map as usual, just one small reprieve to FT is not asking for the world, nor is it asking for the land grabbers to drastically alter their style of play. they are still welcome to FT, as many have said it always has some action there. just don't end the action.
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Originally posted by culero
Bronk that guy doesn't sound like a "furballer". You've described a "cherrypicker". Big difference.
culero
Yes but I'm not a big furball nut either. Ocationaly I like to furball and if i had sence enough to stop buffs why not the diehards? That was the other point being made.
Bronk
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Originally posted by pluck
remember. the big issue here was the taking of FT. furballers are not asking for strat guys to stop taking bases, they were just asking for FT to be left alone, the same way TT has been asked to be left alone. imho asking for 3 fields, 1 field for each country, on 1 map to be left out of the land grab equation is hardly intolerant or arrogant.
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Yeah, I've read the thread, I understand the issue. I haven't said anyone's arrogant or intolerant for objecting to FT being captured. What I'm saying is arrogant or intolerant is accusing people of being griefers simply because they don't enjoy the same style of gameplay. Big difference.
Now, as to FT, I understand that as well. Its an old concept, after all. The AW3 "Big Pac" map featured this very thing - an atoll in the center of the map with one field for each country.
Porking, vulching, and capture of FT was a problem there too. It didn't take long before the capture problem got solved by arena settings - those fields were made uncapturable. Peer pressure in the arena helped keep the vulching and porking to a minimum. The community worked pretty well together to discourage each others' country members from upsetting the furball cart. However, it did often happen that some folks would ignore that.
Tit for tat was another way the community dealt with this. If you persisted in upping at FT then porking or vulching, and it couldn't get solved on open channel, then the next thing you knew you were getting porked and vulched yourself. Sometimes that just degenerated into a "ruined" furball atmosphere for the night, but sometimes folks got the message and things settled back down.
I've wasted all that text in order to illustrate why I'm keeping an open mind here. I don't know what led to folks deciding to roll up FT on the night in question here, but I have heard it said that it started because of rampant vulching.
Personally, its easy for me to see both sides of this. I've sampled pretty much all styles of play over the years, and enjoyed most of 'em. I like a good furball as well as anyone. I also have had a lot of fun working with teams taking fields, both defended and not. Its all good, IMO. I can't see calling anyone names because of what kind of play they like. Different strokes and all that.
Thing is, if I was having fun in a furball at FT and I noticed that the other countrys' players were persistently vulching and/or porking, I would see retaliating as a perfectly legitimate thing to do. You reap what you sow. It wouldn't be about griefing, it would be about giving someone a taste of their own medicine in hopes they'd learn better.
And when I retaliate I tend to eschew half-measures :) If people ain't "playing nice", why not use gameplay to slap 'em down and keep 'em down a while?
My $0.02 in all this, bottom line, is that the people bashing each other in this thread are mostly just incapable of understanding a POV that's different from theirs. IMO, that's too bad because it limits the community's ability to solve its problems on its own.
culero
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Originally posted by pluck
remember. the big issue here was the taking of FT. furballers are not asking for strat guys to stop taking bases, they were just asking for FT to be left alone, the same way TT has been asked to be left alone. imho asking for 3 fields, 1 field for each country, on 1 map to be left out of the land grab equation is hardly intolerant or arrogant. in total we are asking for about 1% of all bases to be left alone....leaving 99% of the rest of the bases, i would say that is a fair compromise. if you ask me the intolerance comes when 1 part of the community asks for such a small concession, and is greeted with a bunch of "stick its"
i'm sure the next time the FT map comes up, a bunch of these squads will run missions for the sole purpose of "griefing" the furballers. you are right some folks do enjoy different things in the game, and it is up to the community to have some tolerance/respect for this. i think most furballers can respect other forms of gameplay even though they do not enjoy, though everyday i suspect the latter is not the case.
we get all these comments about furballers only want to vulch and so on and so forth. that is like saying all strat guys do is suicide hangars. niether is true, and there are some strat guys who are good sticks. lets filter out the dweebs here. also i might point out, that most furballers could care less about strategic parts of the field....it is up to you strat guys to do the job, remember we don't care about taking a base....you do, so don't get mad at us when you can't seal the deal.
i can accept the fact that there will always be hordes and that there will be base taking, i am fine with that. horde the whole map as usual, just one small reprieve to FT is not asking for the world, nor is it asking for the land grabbers to drastically alter their style of play. they are still welcome to FT, as many have said it always has some action there. just don't end the action.
Am I understanding that the "Recent Rook Capture" of FT was to Reset the Map? If so, I could understand this. HOWEVER, if it was captured to just be d**ks like the Bish did, for Lute and I to form a Knight/Rook truce, I do NOT agree.
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Originally posted by Bronk
Yes but I'm not a big furball nut either. Ocationaly I like to furball and if i had sence enough to stop buffs why not the diehards? That was the other point being made.
Bronk
well, there is only so much you can do. you can't stop every single bomber and plane carrying ord. if the enemy is determined to kill the FH's, then the FH's will die. i have offed countless bombers for this reason and so have many others.
culero, i hear what you are saying, and can agree to an extent. but, i might submit that if your country is the one vulching at FT (which is not right either imho) then taking those bases does not equal any form of retaliation. this is especially true, again imho, when your country has superior numbers to begin with.
i wasn't there when the rooks captured the first base, so like you i'm not sure what instigated this whole thing. but i do know that after the bish FT base was taken, the knights took the brunt of the attack. i only flew one sortie that day to FT because rooks were vulching the knights. after a few other flights, i looked back a FT, and rooks still vulching. i logged, came back, and FT was controlled by rooks. at no point did i ever see the rooks being vulched to an extent that they could not fight back. there are always those dweebs who head straight for the runway, i don't think you can count them.
seems like so long ago now and many threads, but what i believe happened was FT was captured by rooks. then bish base was recaptured with the help of some rooks before the field was reset. hope i have my facts straight:), feel free to correct me if i'm wrong....im sure you guys will;)
p.s. i don't think a big fuss would have been made if this capture was specifically for a reset, that i could accept.
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Originally posted by 96Delta
Nahhh...you got it all wrong..
Its an organized horde! :aok
Think of us as locusts on steroids. :D
You know, kinda like a big flying ant farm. As a whole, they are one, alone they are....well, when you run into them its kinda fun to shoot em up. Kind of a target rich environment. :) I kinda like running into them. It adds to the fun!
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Karaya, it was captured by rooks, next day me and hooch switched to nits...hooch put out call to get a FT base back...think it was batfink that joined in, he posted mission, we took nit ft base back, then helped bish get thiers back...reset happened after all that...so, at that time, it was not to reset map, otherwise it wouldnt of been there for us to retake.
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All I know LCA is the Best thing to happen to the Knights in Months. ENY didn't even thing out But the LCA Did. WTG :aok :rofl :lol
Crims
479th Raiders FG
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Originally posted by crims
All I know LCA is the Best thing to happen to the Knights in Months. ENY didn't even thing out But the LCA Did. WTG :aok :rofl :lol
Crims
479th Raiders FG
Lol no kidding, since LCA, Knights has become the new home to alot of fun-loving former Rooks who seek real fighting rather than gang-horde toolshedding...
Zazen
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Lol no kidding, since LCA, Knights has become the new home to alot of fun-loving former Rooks who seek real fighting rather than gang-horde toolshedding...
Zazen
Thats why 475th really enjoying it on knights and to kill them LCA well umm someone think what I can call them.