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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on January 29, 2001, 09:55:00 AM
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http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-2001129099.htm (http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-2001129099.htm)
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Mr. Clinton, however, has asked for a detailed accounting of what went wrong during his staff's departure amid suspicions that the Bush camp overplayed the charges against his aides.
Heh - heh, anyone bet this is the case?
It's decent of bubba to pay for his staffs pranks though, especially if it shuts up the limbaugh nazi.
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Good gesture, covering personally for his crew.
Also nice of Bush to say "let it be".
"Arriving Bush staff found signs on doors,
based on Mr. Bush's habit of mangling his
words, which read, "Office of Strategery,"
"Office of Subliminable Messages" and
"Division of Uniting."
Now THIS is funny (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
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"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch
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I'm just wondering how long are we having these "Clinton is jerk" topics?
He was your president and from my "pow" he handled his job quite nicely(I've seen your opinions already so please dont bother to reply this one (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)) .
Maybe we really should have a "politics forum" so these topics wont pollute o'club anymore?.
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Staga IMHO he DIDN'T do a good job.
I won't go into details because I agree the issue should be dead.(along with Slick Willie)
I have to ask though ..what IS allowed in the OT forum? I thought anything that was not about AH was to be put in here.
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Staga, as my wife put it...this next year will be a very interesting news year as we will find out what really went on in the White House...as well as the books that aides will publish...you haven't seen everything that Clintons did yet...what we will find out about them will probably sicken even the strong stomached politicians and civilians alike.
Hurry......spread the word. The ship leaves soon and there is always room for one more.......
Do you member that a lot of entertainers had promised to leave the country if Bush became President?
Attention all disenfranchised liberals:
Would Alex Baldwin, Rosie O'Donnell, Cher, Phil Donahue, David Gephin,Barbara Streisand, Pierre Salinger, and all other liberals who previously announced they would leave the country if George Bush was elected President,
please report to Florida for sailing on the Good Ship Lollipop, which has been commissioned to take you to your new home.
The Florida Supreme Court will sponsor a Farewell Parade in your honor through Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade counties prior to your cruise.
Please pack for an extended stay...at least four years. Your captain is to be Bill Clinton and your cruise director will be Al
Gore. Joe Lieberman will be your purser and Monica Lewinsky will be your recreation director. Your primary job, while self-exiled, will be to pound sand until such time as you realize your worthless bleeding-heart-liberal ways and gain a grasp on reality -- which may be never for some of you losers.
If you have any questions about your final destination, please direct your comments to Hillary. She's staying behind and will be in charge of nursing whining liberals for the next four years.
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Legitimate O-club topics?
Let's see, if I remember from RL they would be:
1. Hangar flying
2. Exaggerated War Stories
3. Stupid Commanders/Orders
4. Women
5. Drinking
6. Flying
7. War Stories
8. Drinking
9. Flying
....and maybe waaay late at night when everyone was blitzed...maybe, just maybe
10. Arguing Politics
11. Arguing Religion
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How big of him, hell his employees did it why shouldn't he, their supervisor, be held accountable.
On another "let's drag the good name a billy bob clinton through the never ending republican mud" note, Rip or anyone who has the info, what's the particulars on his Park Ave apartment (an entire floor of the most expensive real estate in the most expensive market in the area) we the taxpayers are doomed to pay for. I heard it was as much as the last four or five presidents combined. Thought I saw a > $600,000 a year price tag on it. I think it was a year, really would hate to think it was a month. clinton's so modest isn't he.. always thinking about the "good of the American people". Freeloader, always has been and always will be.....
Eagler
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ok bla bla bla hate hate hate , what the hell are you idgits gonna do for the next 4 years squeak aboout how clinton screwed up the ecoomy and buch is havin to fix it ?lol
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It's always up to the Republicans to clean up after the Libs. Nixon cleaned up after Johnson, Reagan cleaned up after Carter, now Bush has to clean up after another Lib, Clinton. I would think that after awhile Americans would see that Libs know nothing about governing!! At least 50% get it!!! Just 50% to go now (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Bah!
Clinton is the devil disguised a moron.
Get over it already!
Yeager (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Tell us Towd...
What did you think of him pardoning Rich?
Or are we being to harsh? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I sorta thought that the US economy was rather poor before Clinton took over, due to RayHgun's outspending the Soviets?
Might be wrong. Sure, might be just the market force in action. We'll see.
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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://store4.yimg.com/I/demotivators_1619_3845234)
"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch
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1776,
Try this:
Carter got stuck with Nixon/Ford's mess and failed to clean it up.
Reagan/Bush made the situation worse.
Clinton turned the situation around.
Bush will probably scew it up.
Looks to me like the only slight success was Clinton (unless you're rich, in which case Reagan was a success as well)
Conservatives screw it up and then the Liberals have to fix it.
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Sisu
-Karnak
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Are we all so dilusional that we cannot see that the American market is tied to and dependent on foreign markets, and vice versa? It is far more complex than "who is president" where our economy is concerned.
The last 10 years is a reflection of the growth of technology, pure and simple. Now that growth is slowing, as it inevitably would. Wouldn't matter if you gave Clinton, Bush, or anyone 20 years, the results would be the same.
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In a way I agree, Kieren. In another way I disagree. The affect a President has on the economy is not seen for some few years. As I see it the economy slowed with the onset of the Clinton years. When he failed to do ANYTHING about ANYTHING, and for eight years not four, we get left with what we have today. Whatever the effect is it cannot be immediate. I do not think it is a good time to up the going rates for Aces High.
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Bare*Metal*Finish
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Chrysler is laying off 26,000 people and they won't be the last.
Let's see, Bush has been in office about a week...must be his fault!
LOL
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Kieren, I did not wish to indicate that it's all in the hands of the presidents.
But, at least here, the more our government spends, the more it has to borrow, and the more indebted it becomes.
So, looking at state spendings (and compensating for inflation), didn't US debts grow more partially for this reason?
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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://store4.yimg.com/I/demotivators_1619_3845234)
"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch
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Toad - don't get prematurely defensive here. Yer bracing for it, and that's understandable. But yer missing out on a fundamental part of human nature here.
People look down, and they see thier shrinking paycheck... Then they look up and see Bush. Then they look back down and see some abandoned dog peeing on thier ankle... then they look back up and see Bush.
See? If you think people fully understand the government's role in economics, then you overestimate Joe Public.
Hell, Joe Public voted *Bush* into the White House, of all things. That right there says it all. So don't expect those folks to be exactly discerning in thier wrath when, in the middle of the night, their dot com portfolio goes tits up.
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Just yankin' yer chain a bit.
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It is a good time for acquisitions if you can stand a few losses. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Bare*Metal*Finish
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Originally posted by Karnak:
1776,
Try this:
Carter got stuck with Nixon/Ford's mess and failed to clean it up.
Reagan/Bush made the situation worse.
Clinton turned the situation around.
Bush will probably scew it up.
Looks to me like the only slight success was Clinton (unless you're rich, in which case Reagan was a success as well)
Conservatives screw it up and then the Liberals have to fix it.
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Karnak, either you don't study history, or the left wing conspiracy is brainwashing you...Carter slashed the military to the point where he actually made a state of the union address where he admitted that he'd gone to far in cuts (You can find a script of this in the National Archieves I believe)...
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Nash
this is scary, I agree with you. Joe six pack doesn't know economics from quantum physics. They will blame Bush, as will the media, for the economic downturn just as they praised Clinton for it's growth. Truth be told, a country's economic oscillations are years in the making. Clinton rode on Reagan/Bush's efforts/policies and now Bush Jr has the pleasure of riding on Clinton's. Taking major industries to court (tobacco) or trying to break up the company that has helped the computer industry the most (MS), does not make an economy grow.... tax breaks for major industry, tax reduction all around and government getting the hell out of the way does.
Time will tell if Bush/Greenspan can slow/stop/reverse this downward slide.
Eagler
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Karnak, why on earth do you have your computer on!?!?!? Don't ya know there is a power shortage in CA!!! You need to do your part and shut down your electrical stuff!! Use only battery(don't use rechargeable batteries though)devices!!! There may be people in iron lungs that need that electrical power!!!
Save the Whales, save the forests, save the environment,heheee save us from your comments (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
j/k on that last one (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I am an advocate for using all the power I can here in the mid-west so it can't be sold to CA. Have all my lights on 24 hrs a day (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Have windows open in dead of winter to burn as much natural gas as possible so it can't be sold to CA to generate power (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Too bad CA doesn't have winters like we have in the mid-west. I hope you all in CA are all over your lib politicians as they are the ones who made it possible to burn candles as reading lights (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Bush has the right idea. Fix it yourself ya got yourself in this mess, you fix it!!!!
Ya just gotta love common sense!!!
There must be some funny webb sites out there showing how CA could address their power shortage. Anyone find any?
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Nash,
A little searching on your part will show you my posts in here that made my position on the economy clear.
Way back when the Clintonians around here were touting his superb economic policies and his excellent economy, I pointed out that the Prez actually has little to do with all of that. Be he Democrat or Republican, he is to a large degree just along for the ride.
In short, it's extremely rare when the good times and the bad times can be solely credited to the Office of the President.
However the "Bash Bush" for the economy movement has already started and you can find evidence of THAT on this BBS as well.
Just read in the paper today that last years 3rd and 4th QTR results are just now really being evaluted as they are tabulated. The stats say things are bad and likely to get worse.
Shall we blame Bush? Shall we blame Clinton?
Neither. Market forces are a tad more complex than that.
I've never changed this opinion. There are old posts here that show it, too.
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