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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: bkbandit on April 02, 2006, 12:52:31 AM
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Im fighting a typho wit my 51 he starts into the verticle and i go up and start shooting..... i start walkin my tracers up and it happens dont move controls so rapidly, freezes my controls on the way down and i hit the deck. WHY!!!!!!! SInce the update the thing freezes every 5 seconds. Before you say dont be rough with the controls and use smooth movements stop... cause thats what i have been doing since i started playing months ago and no its not my controler. Its crazy.. ill be chaseing in a straight line just making small corrections to get a kill shot and boom dead stick. Before when i first started there would be guys that take advantage of the freeze and make you move in a way to freeze ur controls Why does the game even have this and if u have to have it make it so that i have to be a freakin crazy man to have it freeze you. Please guys give me some input, tell me if im crazy.
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its pretty simple don't move your controls so fast:rolleyes:
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a smooth yo yo shouldnt freeze me
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try turning your damping up. It's in game under joystick options.
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Increase your dead band.
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Originally posted by bkbandit
Im fighting a typho wit my 51 he starts into the verticle and i go up and start shooting..... i start walkin my tracers up and it happens dont move controls so rapidly, freezes my controls on the way down and i hit the deck. WHY!!!!!!! SInce the update the thing freezes every 5 seconds. Before you say dont be rough with the controls and use smooth movements stop... cause thats what i have been doing since i started playing months ago and no its not my controler. Its crazy.. ill be chaseing in a straight line just making small corrections to get a kill shot and boom dead stick. Before when i first started there would be guys that take advantage of the freeze and make you move in a way to freeze ur controls Why does the game even have this and if u have to have it make it so that i have to be a freakin crazy man to have it freeze you. Please guys give me some input, tell me if im crazy.
try recalibrating your stick. If that doesn't work, try using a contact cleaner or some sort of lubricant for the potentiometer in your stick. It should work.
FYI, I always recalibrate my stick everytime I log on to AH.
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why does it do this in the first place
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Originally posted by bkbandit
why does it do this in the first place
beats me ... your potentiometer became dirty for some reason... by chance it coincided with the update.
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lmao who walks their tracers??? thats a waste of ammo... jeez next time watch da rudder also. and when u do your yo yo's does your joystick go flying in the air?:rofl
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Originally posted by bkbandit
why does it do this in the first place
To make stick stirring impossible. A much better solution than rubberband controls ala WB.
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Hmmm........
might wanna check in windows- game controls and make sure "polling" is off!
Polling can cause spiking! Even with deadband and damping.
If your getting allot of that every 5 seconds or so make me think you have polling set to on.
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Go into the stick setting area of the game and move your stick around. Pretend your in a fight and trying for the shot. Watch the lines in the "Blue box" and see if they are smoothly moving up and down forming a graph. If your getting spikes and such, adjust your dead band slider on which ever axis is "bouncing" all over the place.
The reason that the "don't move your stick so fast" error was added..... or so I hear.... was because some people were "gaming the game" and yanking their stick all over the place when they had someone on their "6". This caused their plane to look like....due to internet lag.... it was turning one way, then the next picture another and so on, making it impossible to hit. As a real live plane would tear itself apart doing this, HTC fixed it so ya couldn't do it.
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You might check to see if your stick is spikeing. I had a lot of trouble with an old analog stick that had some vicious spikes... those spikes were read as "moving the controls too rapidly" since I got the new CH stick it has not happened.
lazs
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My mouse tends to spike on the wheel now. Time to get a new one I guess.
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Originally posted by bkbandit
SInce the update the thing freezes
FWIW, last night I was flying a Ki-84 (I know, no pride) and I got this moved-your-stick-too-fast message. Hasn't happened to me in years, literally - probably 2002 was the last time I saw it.
So. It just MAY be something with the new settings. Haven't conducted any scientific tests (and don't plan to), but perhaps it's unwise to just assume that it's the player.
- oldman
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Originally posted by bkbandit
Im fighting a typho wit my 51 he starts into the verticle and i go up and start shooting..... i start walkin my tracers up and it happens dont move controls so rapidly, freezes my controls on the way down and i hit the deck. WHY!!!!!!! SInce the update the thing freezes every 5 seconds. Before you say dont be rough with the controls and use smooth movements stop... cause thats what i have been doing since i started playing months ago and no its not my controler. Its crazy.. ill be chaseing in a straight line just making small corrections to get a kill shot and boom dead stick. Before when i first started there would be guys that take advantage of the freeze and make you move in a way to freeze ur controls Why does the game even have this and if u have to have it make it so that i have to be a freakin crazy man to have it freeze you. Please guys give me some input, tell me if im crazy.
Ok chap. The real solution is "damper" and or "dead band". Go set up / joystick / joystick settings. The left hand page has a drop down menue "Pitch Roll Rudder". Move the dead band up say 1/4 Inch on the axis that gives you trouble. Not sure which axis ? Ok go "Off Line" take up your most common ride to about 2 k. Let speed get up to it's usual. Now move the stick back and forth. Increase the movement till it looks like your pulling 1 off. If you get the message relatively soon that axis (Pitch) is the problem. Do it with roll axis too, moving stick left to right increasing the speed with which you do it. I'm not talking hand blurring movements just steadly increase the volicity.
Once you find the Axis which gives you the message move both those sliders up a bit say 1/4 Inch. Repeat test. If you end up with dead band and damper near 1/2 way up. You have 1 of 2 problems 1) Stick is shot and needs attention / chucking. 2) You are indeed yanking crap outta the stick in test / game.
To make sure you have done things right may I recommend that you calibrate stick in Windows then calibrate in air Off Line. Do this before the Test. That way you know everything is OK. No need to move sliders if a "Flat" calibration was all that was needed.
You asked why this was done. Some sticks are just plain crap. Spikey orrid things. Some laggy thingy don't help some sticks i.e flippy floppy planes and net not being able to keep up with "input". Kinda like Left Right and the intardnet says " wait the f up a moment" or "huh". Skuzzy knows but what I knows is Damper and Dead Band solves the problem.
Oh, by the way if your stick is a Logitech Evo 3D Pro that indeed without a shadow of doubt is 100 percent the problem. They are crap. They don't last more than 2 to 3 months of play before the "pots" crap out. Usually rudder first. The self calibrating dooffer hates Aces High. 2 options if it's this stick. 1) Chuck it in the trash 2) Smash it to bits before chucking it in the trash. :aok