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Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: Charon on April 03, 2006, 08:14:57 PM
Werd.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5001380249576962921&q=bull****&pl=true

NOTE: Some mild profanity

Charon
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: Yeager on April 03, 2006, 08:43:59 PM
funny :rolleyes:
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: Seraphim on April 03, 2006, 08:57:49 PM
Yea their show is great. i recently posted  about their peta episode. I like it 'cause they do their homework, and it's not just an opinion, but lot's of facts.
It's surprising how ignorant many people really are.
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on April 03, 2006, 09:38:16 PM
Great video.  I love those guys lol.
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: nirvana on April 03, 2006, 11:56:27 PM
These episodes are always good, the PETA one was awesome.
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 04, 2006, 10:38:41 AM
Funny stuff, that kept me up later then I wanted to stay last night lol.
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: indy007 on April 04, 2006, 11:11:09 AM
The conspiracy, college education, & environmentalism episodes are great too :)
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: moot on April 04, 2006, 11:11:45 AM
OClub gun threads redux..
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: Terror on April 04, 2006, 03:40:38 PM
Penn & Teller tell it like it is!  Outstanding!

And then for this:

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Originally posted by moot
OClub gun threads redux..


moot whining redux....   I think I will start some more gun threads just for moot.  hmmm....

Terror
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: moot on April 05, 2006, 10:59:14 AM
Try using those mind reading vacuum tubes of yours rightside up...
I thought it was great to see Beet & co tell it like it is, and walking his precious poodle to boot, but a more thorough Nashwan type of Antigunner would've been nice to see debunked too.
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: Ripsnort on April 05, 2006, 11:14:16 AM
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Originally posted by moot
Try using those mind reading vacuum tubes of yours rightside up...
I thought it was great to see Beet & co tell it like it is, and walking his precious poodle to boot, but a more thorough Nashwan type of Antigunner would've been nice to see debunked too.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: Gunslinger on April 05, 2006, 12:34:37 PM
while I don't agree with EVERYTHING that P&T say on their show I do agree with alot of it and find their humor and lack of political motivation very refreshing.

I'm glad they tell it like it is in this eppisode as well.
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: Lye-El on April 05, 2006, 12:49:23 PM
That was pretty good. :aok
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: moot on April 19, 2006, 12:55:06 PM
Sorry for the punt- does anyone have this saved or know another url to it?
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: Thrawn on April 19, 2006, 01:10:11 PM
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Originally posted by Seraphim
I like it 'cause they do their homework, and it's not just an opinion, but lot's of facts.


They bull**** a fair bit themselves in that show.
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: moot on April 19, 2006, 01:15:47 PM
such as..
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: Thrawn on April 19, 2006, 01:29:30 PM
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Originally posted by moot
such as..


I don't think that there was a single episode that they didn't misrepresent themselves to someone.  Whether it be pretending to be recycling experts working for the city, environmentalists, or what have your.  I even recall them rationalising by saying they weren't making money off peoples pain by doing this.  Bull****, they humilated tons of people, and unless they don't draw a salary from thier show and/or DVD sales, they are the worst sort of hypocrits.

On the episode about AA they stated that 5% of people that quit cold turkey are able too.  They then said that 5% of people that go to AA are able too.  They then concluded people might as well quit cold turkey and not bother with AA.

But they are missing the qualitative difference between people that quite cold turkey and those that are in AA.  AA is for people that have tried to quit cold turkey, probably many times but found that they can't.  So as far as stats are concerned their probably isn't much overlap.
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: moot on April 19, 2006, 01:40:07 PM
I thought you meant this episode specifically.
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: lazs2 on April 20, 2006, 10:32:45 AM
thrawn... not so much missrepresented I think as.... wrong..  If 5% quit cold turkey and 5% of those who couldn't quit on their own quit after AA...

Then it is just their math that is off in that the two combined would equal 10% who were saved by combining the two methods.

The gun control show is simple common sense with no math involved

lazs
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: Thrawn on April 20, 2006, 09:22:52 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Then it is just their math that is off in that the two combined would equal 10% who were saved by combining the two methods.


That's what I was thinking, but you said it with more clarity.
Title: Penn & Teller on Gun Control
Post by: lazs2 on April 21, 2006, 08:30:11 AM
I was in AA for a good ten years when it was worthwhile..

since the government has been involved it is.... sadly... allmost worthless now... it is the butt of jokes and ridicule... this was never so when it was an organization that had no affiliation with the government.  

Same for habitat for humanity... the government is a huge anti success story in everything they throw our money at... incompetent and criminal boobs...

They need to succeed so they leach onto successful private and charitable programs and destroy them in the process.

sad really... and all too predictible.... too bad most of the little socialist musheads can't see it.

lazs