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Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 05, 2006, 12:22:45 AM
Dunno if anyone has posted this before. But I'll toss it out there anyway



Are you a Democrat, Republican or Southern
> Republican?
> Here is a little test that will help you decide.
>
> The answer can be found by posing the following
> question:
> You're walking down a deserted street with your wife
>
> and two small children. Suddenly, an Islamic
> Terrorist with a
> huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with
> you, screams
> obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and
> charges at you.
>
> You are carrying a Glock Cal. 40, and you are an
> expert shot.
> You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your
> family.
> What do you do?
>  
>  
>
_____________________________ _____________________________ ___________
>
> Democrat's Answer:
>  
>   Well, that's not enough information to answer the
> question!
> Does the man look poor! Or oppressed?
> Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire
> him to attack?
> Could we run away?
> What does my wife think?
> What about the kids?
> Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock
> the knife out
> of his hand?
> What does the law say about this situation?
> Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into
> it?
> Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what
> kind of message does this send to society and to my
> children?
> Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?
> Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be
> content just to wound me, If I were to grab his
> knees and hold
> on, could my family get away while he was stabbing
> me?
> Should I call 9-1-1?
> Why is this street so deserted?
> We need to raise taxes, have a paint and weed day
> and make this
> happier, healthier street that would discourage such
> behavior.
> This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with
> some friends for
> few days and try to come to a consensus.
>
_____________________________ _____________________________ _________
>
>  
>    Republican's Answer:
>  
>    BANG!
>
_____________________________ _____________________________ ____________
>
>
> Southern Republican's Answer:
>
> BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
> BANG! click...(sounds of reloading). BANG! BANG!
> BANG!
> BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click
> Daughter: "Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the
> Winchester Silver
> Tips or Hollow Points?
> Son: Git-r-Dun Pop! Can I shoot the next one!
> Wife: You ain't taking that to the Taxidermist!
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: nirvana on April 05, 2006, 12:39:31 AM
It would appear as though i'm a Republican.

Only I said "Blow his freaking head off".
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on April 05, 2006, 01:14:07 AM
Larry the Cable Guy is a Southern Republican?
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Nash on April 05, 2006, 01:17:51 AM
Oooh.

Republicans.

Brave Republicans.

Men of action.

"BANG!" say they.



Bonafide Super Heros.

(as played on teh internets)

How is it that most Republicans I meet are snivvely little nerds?

Men whose stuttering broken monosylabic employment of their own language can at best be given an uncormfortable and embarrassed nod.

Brave men whose physical ability is constantly outwitted by their love of fast food?

Warriors who refuse to war.

Keyboard commandos who show up on an internet war game web site to make yet another jab at Democrats for... something....

"Bang!" is a word we used to yell at eachother as kids, playing war.

"Bang!" we'd yell, "You're dead."

And the kid would fall over, "you got me!"

You say:

"Republican's Answer:
>
> BANG!"

Oh man, dammit, you got me. BANG! I'm dead.

Guys like you are kids that never grew up. Guys that suck at the tit of security, tucking their safety blanket up under the corner of their chins, looking to God, Daddy, Mommy, Guns and Government to protect you.

It's pathetic.

There are so many of you little fearers out there that you wound up electing a government that, all they had to do to win your faint hearts over was to say "BANG!" and you all buckled like little girls.

Screw you and your grade two quiz. Makes me wanna puke.

You can either be a good American, or a good Republican, but you can no longer be both.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on April 05, 2006, 01:20:06 AM
Wow.  Somebody peed in HIS Cheerios huh?
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: cav58d on April 05, 2006, 01:21:38 AM
Peed?  More like took a ***** them!
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: texace on April 05, 2006, 02:12:41 AM
I'd shoot him, but I'm not Republican...
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Eagler on April 05, 2006, 06:03:07 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
You can either be a good American, or a good Republican, but you can no longer be both.


what are your life experiences about being either?

that's what I thought ...
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: eagl on April 05, 2006, 06:45:53 AM
I guess that means Nash is in the first category?
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Goomba on April 05, 2006, 07:03:49 AM
Whoops!  Nash wins the "Overboard Award" for today.

Not to mention being the first one to take a silly joke and turn it into blistering insult.  Must be too close to home, or something.

Have a Nice Day :)
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Gunslinger on April 05, 2006, 07:24:14 AM
Quote
Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Wow.  Somebody peed in HIS Cheerios huh?


His cheerios are perpetually filled with urine. ;)
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 05, 2006, 07:41:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
Oooh.


How is it that most Republicans I meet are snivvely little nerds?

 


Now Im neither a Republican nor a Democrat.
My feeling has always been if your a die hard party liner your probably also a die hard idiot completely incapable of  or too lazy to have an independant thought.
And your above statement from my observations came be just as accurately made for democrates as well.
(This point can be easily made by observing one of the OClubs more recent additions)
Oh and
Canadians too
As you have just proven by one of the more pathetic responces to a JOKE that I've seen in a very VERY long time
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: lazs2 on April 05, 2006, 07:45:28 AM
of all the people I have met... liberals were the most estrogen charged.... like nash's hissy fit say..

they are most like peta and vegetarians and actors and.... oh wait.... they are nash and peta and vegetarians and actors..

never mind.

lazs
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Arlo on April 05, 2006, 08:57:31 AM
Posturing is just whining in disguise. :D
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Nash on April 05, 2006, 09:17:19 AM
Drediock, that "joke" has been posted here in the OC at least eighteen thousand hundred times.

The punchline, that Republicans would shoot someone who attacked their family while Democrats would not, is about as funny as every single, okay the only Republican I've seen with a healthy and intelligent sense of humor. And he aint funny either.

I don't know where you get this idea that Republicans are such men. Honestly - it completely escapes me. The only thing I have to work with is the actions of these guys. Ya know? And it all adds up to bed drenching fear. Every single time.

Your joke sucked. I'm sorry about that.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: beet1e on April 05, 2006, 09:18:32 AM
Wot Nash said. ^
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: storch on April 05, 2006, 09:27:46 AM
nash, have you considered sun drying your cheerios?  now that my SUV has warmed canaduh up a bit you may not have to eat them soggy, I'm sure you have already aquired an appreciation for the aftertaste.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: LePaul on April 05, 2006, 09:28:20 AM
Yea but Nash is a kook, who cares what he says most of the time?

And Im SOOOO surprised Beetle wouldnt shoot (there wouldnt be a Glock anywhere near him!) :D
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Shifty on April 05, 2006, 10:02:39 AM
Nash.

I don't think it was a comment of the manhood of Republicans, or the lack of manhood on Democrats.
It's a joke using sterotypes of both, that are funny , and carry a little bit of truth.

 A Democrat would protect his family as quickley as a Republican. The concerns expressed in the joke would  more then likely occur after the fact for both. Possibly more for the Democrat because they seem to be more socially sensitive. Personally after the smoke cleared my biggest worry would be , somebody would make this out to be all my fault, and I'd go to jail.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: beet1e on April 05, 2006, 10:07:50 AM
Shifty - fair enough, but as Nash says - it's still been done eighteen hundred thousand times.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: john9001 on April 05, 2006, 10:25:26 AM
nash has a serious problem , he needs to seek counseling.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Goomba on April 05, 2006, 10:59:10 AM
Oh boy.  :rolleyes:

A joke, by definition, is absurdity and exaggeration.  That's what makes it a JOKE and not FACT.

Even an old joke is still a.....JOKE.

Looks to me, upon re-reading this gag, that any 'offense' exists only in the interpretation of the reader;  If you choose to, you could say the joke makes fun of Republicans for some perceived aggressiveness, rather than choosing to see insult to Democrats.  Sure doesn't strike me as the kind of hateful, directed 'humor' that really isn't funny.

Why does everything in here,  even a dopey old joke, have to devolve into some pointless socio-political rant?

This is what a growing culture of thin-skinned, easily offended victims is creating, for all of us to enjoy.

The most this post deserved in response from someone who didn't see the humor was..."meh, whatever".

Instead we get;  "Bonafide Super Heros", "snivvely little nerds", "constantly outwitted by their love of fast food", "kids that never grew up", "suck at the tit of security", "pathetic", "buckled like little girls" and "Screw you and your grade two quiz. Makes me wanna puke"

So I ask, who's actually being insulting here, and who's being a thin-skinned nancy-boy?  Like I said before, something musta hit too close to home.

Gotta lighten up, kids.  And switch to decaf.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Gunslinger on April 05, 2006, 11:05:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Goomba
Why does everything in here,  even a dopey old joke, have to devolve into some pointless socio-political rant?
.


because it uses the "R" word in it and doesnt make democrats favorable.  That instantly makes Nash froth at the mouth  (along with that unhealthy urine intake)
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Shifty on April 05, 2006, 11:36:08 AM
Quote
Originally posted by beet1e
Shifty - fair enough, but as Nash says - it's still been done eighteen hundred thousand times.


Yeah I've seen it at least 20 times, and I don't come in the O club all that much.:aok
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: z0rch on April 05, 2006, 12:47:06 PM
Shifty wrote:
Yeah I've seen it at least 20 times, and I don't come in the O club all that much.

Bush said:
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: ChickenHawk on April 05, 2006, 01:12:48 PM
Good to see you posting again Nash.  It's not healthy to lurk the board and bottle it all up inside.  Let it out man.  Let us have it.

P.S.  Changing back to one of the old avatars wouldn't hurt either ;)
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on April 05, 2006, 08:03:25 PM
Lay off Nash, he can't help it, his boyfriend lost the Midol.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 05, 2006, 08:23:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shifty
Nash.

I don't think it was a comment of the manhood of Republicans, or the lack of manhood on Democrats.
It's a joke using sterotypes of both, that are funny , and carry a little bit of truth.

 A Democrat would protect his family as quickley as a Republican. The concerns expressed in the joke would  more then likely occur after the fact for both. Possibly more for the Democrat because they seem to be more socially sensitive. Personally after the smoke cleared my biggest worry would be , somebody would make this out to be all my fault, and I'd go to jail.


Exactly, Thank you.

And Nash, It shows the extremes. And while the extreme right may go a bit overboard with their "manliness" (prototypical redneck).
Its been my experiance that rhe extreme left tend to be to put a polite term on it.  A bit on the effeminate side.

In any event I put up at the very beginning I said EXACTLY
"Dunno if anyone has posted this before. But I'll toss it out there anyway"

So while it may have been put up "eighteen hundred thousand times. "
That was the first time I've seen it. And Im sure there were probably a few who hadnt yet seen it
And as such I placed the disclaimer.

You could have simply ignored it and moved on to other threads instead of throwing your what can only be best discribed as a temper tantrum.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: z0rch on April 05, 2006, 08:55:50 PM
Nash wrote:
Guys like you are kids that never grew up. Guys that suck at the tit of security, tucking their safety blanket up under the corner of their chins, looking to God, Daddy, Mommy, Guns and Government to protect you.

Confirmed: Study: Whiny, Insecure Kids Grow Up Conservative... (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/03/20/study-whiny-insecure-ki_n_17588.html)
Remember the whiny, insecure kid in nursery school, the one who always thought everyone was out to get him, and was always running to the teacher with complaints? Chances are he grew up to be a conservative.

Nash continued:
There are so many of you little fearers out there that you wound up electing a government that, all they had to do to win your faint hearts over was to say "BANG!" and you all buckled like little girls.

This was no accident:
Why do Conservatives have more Nightmares? (http://mentalhealth.about.com/cs/academicpsychology/a/conservative.htm)
What does it mean that conservative Republicans have almost three times as many nightmares as do liberal Democrats?
People on the right had more nightmares and dreams in which they lacked power. They had a greater frequency of lifelike dreams. Female rights were especially anxious about family relationships, and male rights had dreams almost devoid of girlfriends. People on the left had fewer nightmares and more dreams in which they had power. They had a greater frequency of good fortunes and bizarre elements in their dreams. Female lefts had an especially high frequency of good fortunes, and male lefts had an unusually high percentage of female characters.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 05, 2006, 09:25:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by z0rch
Shifty wrote:
Yeah I've seen it at least 20 times, and I don't come in the O club all that much.

Bush said:
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."


Curious.
Would you. and have you ever voted republican?

Can you name the last (in your opinion) and why good republican president?
Can you name the last( again in your opinion) and why Bad Democrat President

Or are you so brainwashed by your political party that you are totally devoid of independent thought whatsoever and the best you can do is spew party line rhetoric and quote largely fabricated stories from completely biased sources such as we've been witness to you doing over the last several days?
Your "How Bush Stole the Election" is a classic example of the very type of thing you are saying Bush said.
If there were a single ounce of truth to it, 9/11 or no 9/11 we would still have democrats swinging from the tops of trees like monkeys screaming it out at thew top of their lungs even today.

Do you really believe that? If so I have this really cool version of 9/11 where Bush ordered all the people on all the flights that crashed and died that day moved to a top secret secure undisclosed location where they remain to this day and instead had exact duplicates of these aircraft flown by radio remote control by Bush Sr's CIA cronies into the WTC, The Pentagon, and that field in Pennsy.

Or is it that your so blinded as many are. In your pure hatred of Bush that your willing to accept anything without question thrown your way that might even remotely make him look like the devil himself?

Now I will agree Bush is a royal a- hole But

Got news for ya. Bush isnt the great evil or moron people like to make him out to be either.
Will he go down as one of our greatest presidents as some here would claim? LOL no not even close.
but he wont go down as our worst either. He'll go down as being..."eh"
Same as Clinton will be.
And while Cinton was also an a - hole. He wasnt the great looser he is made out to be either. But he also wasnt a GREAT President as some would claim either.

Whichever party you belong to. Stop listening to the rheotoric being thrown at you and start questioning party HQ as to their rhetoric and their motives. You will see they dont like when you do that.
They dont like it cause they are both full of watermelon and they know it
Your being manipulated. BOTH sides do it to great effect.
Its all a matter of feeding you a line of pure BS and who;s BS you decide you like better.
You really think the Democratic or republican parties really give a damn about you or your well being?
Hell no. They only care about their inner circle getting into and keeping power. And to do that they will say anything they think you will buy into to get there and do just enough. and I do mean just barely enough to kjeep them there.
They put their left hand on your shoulder, whisper sweet nothings in your ear to keep you happy while with the other hand they are giving you the ole reacharound and playing you like a dime store puppet.

Bush aint great
Bush aint evil
Clinton wasnt great
Clinton wasnt evil
Dont let any party liners tell you otherwise
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Maverick on April 05, 2006, 09:38:10 PM
Nash's opinion is worth less than the paper it's printed on as far as what he thinks about the United States. He isn't a citizen, doesn't live there can't register as either repub or demo. He just likes whining and name calling. It's gotten to be an old record.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Gunslinger on April 05, 2006, 09:55:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by z0rch
Nash wrote:
Guys like you are kids that never grew up. Guys that suck at the tit of security, tucking their safety blanket up under the corner of their chins, looking to God, Daddy, Mommy, Guns and Government to protect you.

Confirmed: Study: Whiny, Insecure Kids Grow Up Conservative... (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/03/20/study-whiny-insecure-ki_n_17588.html)
Remember the whiny, insecure kid in nursery school, the one who always thought everyone was out to get him, and was always running to the teacher with complaints? Chances are he grew up to be a conservative.

Nash continued:
There are so many of you little fearers out there that you wound up electing a government that, all they had to do to win your faint hearts over was to say "BANG!" and you all buckled like little girls.

This was no accident:
Why do Conservatives have more Nightmares? (http://mentalhealth.about.com/cs/academicpsychology/a/conservative.htm)
What does it mean that conservative Republicans have almost three times as many nightmares as do liberal Democrats?
People on the right had more nightmares and dreams in which they lacked power. They had a greater frequency of lifelike dreams. Female rights were especially anxious about family relationships, and male rights had dreams almost devoid of girlfriends. People on the left had fewer nightmares and more dreams in which they had power. They had a greater frequency of good fortunes and bizarre elements in their dreams. Female lefts had an especially high frequency of good fortunes, and male lefts had an unusually high percentage of female characters.


Ahhh yes a study of AND I QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM THE FIRST LINK:
Quote
95 kids from the Berkeley area that social scientists


We have the words Berkeley and Social in the same sentence.  What would people at "Berkeley" let alone "social scientists" know about political conservatism?  Their idea of a conservative is somone whom in the midwest would probably be a staunch liberal.  It even says in the article that it doesn't represent a good cross section of America.  It's funny how people bring these unscientific unfactual studies and enter them as gospel.....especially when this thread was started as humor.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Donzo on April 05, 2006, 10:03:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
His cheerios are perpetually filled with urine. ;)



His own.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: z0rch on April 05, 2006, 10:43:34 PM
DREDIOCK wrote:
Curious.
Would you. and have you ever voted republican?

Yes. I often vote for individual republicans in local elections. Some are personal friends. I also voted for Reagan/Bush in '80.

One year, the Dem candidate for a local office escaped indictment on corruption charges by letting his wheelchair bound father take the fall, and the Rep candidate was pending indictment. The only other candidate was from the Communist Workers party. I voted for the one who wasn't a crook.

Can you name the last (in your opinion) and why good republican president?

Ford had excellent entertainment value.

Can you name the last( again in your opinion) and why Bad Democrat President

Clinton pissed me off by campaigning on Health Care Insurance Reform, and then sold us out by putting his former-insurance-company-lawyer-wife in charge of selling out.

Carter was a nice guy in a job that eats nice guys for lunch.

LBJ was a mean bastard.

Or are you so brainwashed by your political party that you are totally devoid of independent thought whatsoever and the best you can do is spew party line rhetoric and quote largely fabricated stories from completely biased sources such as we've been witness to you doing over the last several days?

Whoa there. I don't think I've stated my political affiliation. If you inferred one, you inferred incorrectly.

Your "How Bush Stole the Election" is a classic example of the very type of thing you are saying Bush said.
If there were a single ounce of truth to it, 9/11 or no 9/11 we would still have democrats swinging from the tops of trees like monkeys screaming it out at thew top of their lungs even today.


That's how they lost what little respect I had for them. They just rolled over. Starting with Gore. By not fighting for a clean election, he proved he wasn't fit for the job.

They rolled over for the orwellian abomination called the PATRIOT Act, rolled over on Iraq, and are consistent only in that they consistently have no spine.

Do you really believe that? If so I have this really cool version of 9/11 where Bush ordered all the people on all the flights that crashed and died that day moved to a top secret secure undisclosed location where they remain to this day and instead had exact duplicates of these aircraft flown by radio remote control by Bush Sr's CIA cronies into the WTC, The Pentagon, and that field in Pennsy.

So your position is that claiming an election was fixed is equivalent to claiming "aliens ate my brain." You got me there. I guess there never has been a rigged election, anywhere, anytime.

Or is it that your so blinded as many are. In your pure hatred of Bush that your willing to accept anything without question thrown your way that might even remotely make him look like the devil himself?

Again, you attempt to validate your position by overstating mine.

I despise covert manipulation. The Bushies started it in the 2000 campaign, when they were hyping China and their half-dozen non-deliverable nukes as the next armageddon.

When things started getting bad (less than 50% of americans polled said Bush's administration was legit), sycophants of an old Bush ally delivered a convenient distraction.

Whichever party you belong to. Stop listening to the rheotoric being thrown at you and start questioning party HQ as to their rhetoric and their motives. You will see they dont like when you do that.
They dont like it cause they are both full of watermelon and they know it
Your being manipulated. BOTH sides do it to great effect.

Shot... score!

You really think the Democratic or republican parties really give a damn about you or your well being?
Hell no. They only care about their inner circle getting into and keeping power. And to do that they will say anything they think you will buy into to get there and do just enough. and I do mean just barely enough to kjeep them there.

And another score! Can he make the hat-trick? ...

Bush aint great
Bush aint evil
Clinton wasnt great
Clinton wasnt evil
Dont let any party liners tell you otherwise


Not quite.

No president in recent history has caused as much enduring damage as this clown and his administration. They trashed half the Bill of Rights, effectively eradicated Habeas Corpus, and ruined the credibility of our country.

I have friends all over the world. They can't believe what's going on here. 5 years ago most of them respected america, now they distrust it.

Bush is making us look a lot like Germany in 1938. I asked a friend who was there if he saw the parallel as well, and he said "Yes, it was the same kind of madness."

The America we grew up with is gone. We can't go into public buildings without emptying our pockets. Grandmothers can't board planes without suffering the indignities of searches. Cops are again running amok.

I have one simple yardstick for this fall's election. If they voted to renew the PATRIOT Act, they aint getting my vote. Party is irrelevant.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Gunslinger on April 06, 2006, 06:32:01 AM
Zorch you've probably never even read the patriot act.  Personally if we are pissing people off around the world then that's probably a good thing.  Winning popularity contests in places like Europe usually means you have to be a castrated spinless moron.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Shuckins on April 06, 2006, 06:38:38 AM
What conclusions should reasonable people draw about a national urban sub-culture that is so enamored of the beauties of the neighboring states to the east that they feel compelled to fill it with condos and relocate there and, in the process, reforming the local culture to fit their own ideals?

Eastward Ho you gnarly dudes!
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Holden McGroin on April 06, 2006, 06:47:02 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
Drediock, that "joke" has been posted here in the OC at least eighteen thousand hundred times.


18,000 * 100 .....1,800,000

As of this posting, the O'club has 681,347 posts.

[joke on]Typical of pinko commie tree hugging saddam loving wimpy liberals to be so horribly wrong.[/joke off]
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Eagler on April 06, 2006, 06:54:22 AM
Quote
Originally posted by z0rch

Bush is making us look a lot like Germany in 1938. I asked a friend who was there if he saw the parallel as well, and he said "Yes, it was the same kind of madness.".


and your "friend" was how old in '38?

my guess is that he was either too old or too young to answer that question accurately today - if your "friend" even exists ...

just another hysterical bush admin hater .. carry on

lol lol lol
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Hawklore on April 06, 2006, 06:59:34 AM
Good old fashioned southerner.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Holden McGroin on April 06, 2006, 07:07:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by z0rch
I despise covert manipulation. The Bushies started it in the 2000 campaign, when they were hyping China and their half-dozen non-deliverable nukes as the next armageddon.


Quote
When the DF-5 was first tested in September 1971, it had a range of 10,000 to 12,000 kms which allowed it to threaten the western portions of the United States. Beginning in 1983 the Chinese inaugurated the improved DF-5A, with an increased of over 13,000 km and a more accurate guidance system. The DF-5A upgrade increased the throw-weight of the system from 3,000 kg to 3,200 kg.
source (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/icbm/df-5.htm)

China has a family of at least 14 boosters capable of launching payloads  into orbit.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: lazs2 on April 06, 2006, 09:47:43 AM
Just spent the last week in berkley... anyone who has would laugh their butts off at the idea of a social study comeing from beserkly.

Every study I have ever seen says that conservatives are much happier adults than liberals.   I believe that the commie study from berkley was a propoganda move by the left to denegrate those studies...  

Even if their was a grain of truth to it... would you rather be an unhappy child living in berkley and then grow up to be a happy adult or.... a passive socialist child in berkley who grew up to hate life?

Of course, how you are when you reach adulthood is the most important thing.   Does nash seem happy to you?   He has to leave his  country (canada) and pretend to be an American to find enough things to be unhappy about.

Like most liberals.... he searches out missery.

and zorch... LBJ was not really dumb... he was an evil socialist.  Most of the social problems we have today can be dumped right into his lap.

Carter was not a "nice guy"  nice guys don't ruin the lives of millions of people while claiming to want to help em... he was a buffoon and still is.

lazs
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Nash on April 07, 2006, 01:58:43 AM
Look, I realize that my reaction may look uppity to some of you guys. But whatever.

Some of the best jokes are rooted in cliches. An Irishman, a nun, and a lawyer walk into a bar... for example.

The problem with this here joke, at least to me, is that the cliche upon which this joke is based is complete BS. But first, lets take another look at the set up:

"You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, an Islamic Terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you."

... wherein the punch line is that a Democrat would be rendered so helpless by some absurd combination of confusion and weakness as to let his family die.

To me, that's not funny. Just stupid.

Where does the very idea of that even come from? How could something like that be accepted as just some slightly humorous but factual characteristic?

Jesus Christ...

Where did this "Weak Democrat" cliche come from in the first place? Seriously - it begs examination. For every tree hugging hippy you cart out, I can raise you two pocket protector sportin' limp wristed gits.

Folks, this crap started 30 years ago. Beginning with Goldwater, maturing with "Card carrying Liberals" under Reagan, continuing with the divisive and hateful language during Gingrich, and culminating in the explosion of total doofuses like Rush, Hannity, and Coulter... and the multitudes like them who prey upon ignorance and base emotion.

The fact is that the chances that a typical American family will become victims of a dagger weilding terrorist in some dark alley is probably as good as being hit by lightening. Three times.

So here's how I see it.

On the one hand, you've got a typical family walking down the street after a dinner out, and in all reality-world likelyhood, making it safely back to their car. On the other hand, you've got this other family whose dad is packin' heat, who also makes it safely back to their car.

If this was a test, who would you say was the Democratic family, and who was the Republican family? Chances are, you said that the family with the gun was the Republican family.

So what special brand of algebra would it take to come up with this "Brave Republicans" crap? How in the world does this make them tough? By what calculation could one use to suggest that they are strong? It's ridiculous.

They are merely scared.

Republicans fear God. Republicans fear immigrants. Republicans fear gays. Republicans fear science. Republicans fear sex. Republicans fear other countries. Republicans fear the law. Republicans fear big government. Republicans fear the lack of big government. Republicans fear education. Republicans fear the media. Republicans fear the liberty and freedom granted by the mother-effin' Constitution of the gawdamned United States of America.

Get your cameras out, 'cause this is the blissful marriage of complete and total marks and complete and total hucksters.

Republicans fear just about any damned thing they don't understand - which is just about everything.

You Democrats? Grow some balls will ya? Every dang "point" (or joke) that these guys try and make is founded upon a reality of their own making. That is to say, not real.

The more you let them get away with this fantasy crap, the more you prove them right.

Sometimes, you just gotta grab the bat and start swinging. Forget about the consequences - it makes you human.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Holden McGroin on April 07, 2006, 02:25:35 AM
So you base your criticism of a BS cliche' of weak democrats on the BS cliche' of:
 
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Republicans fear God. Republicans fear immigrants. Republicans fear gays. Republicans fear science. Republicans fear sex. Republicans fear other countries. Republicans fear the law. Republicans fear big government. Republicans fear the lack of big government. Republicans fear education. Republicans fear the media. Republicans fear the liberty and freedom granted by the mother-effin' Constitution of the gawdamned United States of America.


okie dokie.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: beet1e on April 07, 2006, 02:26:30 AM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
18,000 * 100 .....1,800,000

As of this posting, the O'club has 681,347 posts.

[joke on]Typical of pinko commie tree hugging saddam loving wimpy liberals to be so horribly wrong.[/joke off]
I do believe Nash was speaking... figuratively. And his last post of about 30 mins ago was excellent. I'm on the fringes here, being neither republican nor democrat and not being eligible to vote for either. But this whole Red/Blue pissing contest is just so much crap. Well done Nash for breaking it down, terd by terd, and showing us what rubbish it really is.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Holden McGroin on April 07, 2006, 02:29:38 AM
I understood that, I just took the opportunity for a little levity.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: DiabloTX on April 07, 2006, 02:30:17 AM
Nash, your reaction to the joke mirrors the reaction of the "liberal" in the joke.  

Think about it.  Life immitating art or...?

It's just a joke, man.

Who said Neocon's where the only one's without a sense of humor?


P.S.  Good thing lawyers have a sense of humor.  Right?
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Saintaw on April 07, 2006, 03:25:52 AM
*stands and applauds nash*
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Vudak on April 07, 2006, 07:03:35 AM
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Originally posted by Nash

Republicans fear God. Republicans fear immigrants. Republicans fear gays. Republicans fear science. Republicans fear sex.



Can't really say I agree with your follow ons to this point, but, at least from a CT'ers perspective, it sure does seem like many Republicans fit this bill.  Specifically the fearing of gays, science and God.  I just don't understand why someone would be fanatically anti-gay marriage or aghast at the prospect of their kids learning evolutionary science without there being some thought in the back of their head that they were ticking off a higher power.

Of course, it's not like there aren't Dems who also take that stance.  And Republicans, like me, who don't.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on April 07, 2006, 07:09:49 AM
Your presumption that Republicans fear everything is the largest pile of Bravo Sierra found anywhere in this thread. Except possibly you. Fear and dislike are two entirely different things. Just as fear and knowing something is wrong are two different things. Far be it from your pompous bellybutton to grasp that small tidbit of knowledge. Have a nice day.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 07, 2006, 07:48:35 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
[B
You Democrats? Grow some balls will ya? Every dang "point" (or joke) that these guys try and make is founded upon a reality of their own making. That is to say, not real.

The more you let them get away with this fantasy crap, the more you prove them right.

Sometimes, you just gotta grab the bat and start swinging. Forget about the consequences - it makes you human. [/B]


And you just made the very point you were trying to argue against.

While you cant paint everyone from either party with a broad brush.
Just from my own observations
There would be a hell of alot more Liberals not willing to fight then conservatives for many of the same reasons mentioned in the joke.

I've only heard Democrats say "fighting is never the answer"
 1 example is on a job I  was working at and the ladies son came home from school all dirtied up and bruised. When told the reason was some kid was picking on him and he got into a fight this mother said " You never fight. You should have just turned around and walked away. Fighting is never the answer"
Which is probably the worst advise anyone could ever give a kid and I told her so. She didnt agree telling me "We teach our kids not to fight in this family." To which I said. there is a difference between fighting for the sake of fighting, and fighting to defend yourself. And by insisting he never fight at all. Knowing the neighborhood he was in was the same as telling him to be everyones punching bag"

Now I wouldnt have known her party affiliation had she not had this big "Vote Democrat" sign in her front yard.

I've seen this same  type scenareo played out time and again.
More times then not by a large margin  it is party line the card carrying Democrat who was unwilling to fight.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: lazs2 on April 07, 2006, 09:08:09 AM
to liberals...  dislike or disgust is "fear" or "hate"...  it is newspeak taken right out of orwell or dr phill... who knows?  

In my short life I have not met a liberal that I could respect or trust.   they are either buffoons or dishonest or both... not worth getting to know.  

Ones that I have seen start out all smiles and calm and reasonable and then get all agitated and spittle flying when you point out that you don't agree..... if you don't agree long enough you will get them to dredge up some lie that has either been spoon fed to the dummies or that they personaly made up.

lazs
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 07, 2006, 09:17:12 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
to liberals...  dislike or disgust is "fear" or "hate"...  it is newspeak taken right out of orwell or dr phill... who knows?  

In my short life I have not met a liberal that I could respect or trust.   they are either buffoons or dishonest or both... not worth getting to know.  

Ones that I have seen start out all smiles and calm and reasonable and then get all agitated and spittle flying when you point out that you don't agree..... if you don't agree long enough you will get them to dredge up some lie that has either been spoon fed to the dummies or that they personaly made up.

lazs


I would tend to agree When apllied to those left of center
But I would also say The same I have seen true with those right of center as well.

Its the diehards of both parties that are that way.

But I will say it is the democrats who seem to get offended the easiest.
At least lately.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Hangtime on April 07, 2006, 09:18:38 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
to liberals...  dislike or disgust is "fear" or "hate"...  it is newspeak taken right out of orwell or dr phill... who knows?  

In my short life I have not met a liberal that I could respect or trust.   they are either buffoons or dishonest or both... not worth getting to know.  

Ones that I have seen start out all smiles and calm and reasonable and then get all agitated and spittle flying when you point out that you don't agree..... if you don't agree long enough you will get them to dredge up some lie that has either been spoon fed to the dummies or that they personaly made up.

lazs


on the other hand, right wing conservatives seem to have a pretty good handle on how/if/when your born, and how/if/when yer allowed to die.

And the stuff in the middle they can't seem to get right, either.

Conservatives.. Liberals.. the extremists all suck.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Gunthr on April 07, 2006, 11:01:29 AM
Its a  J. O. K. E.    a cartoon, a caricature ... at the expense of democrats this time.  

There are many jokes at the expense of other groups, as well, and all of them are based on BS.

If you can't laugh, maybe you could get up to the great north woods...  rest and get some perspective...  then when you get back to the city maybe little things like this won't bother you.  

My own theory is that the superhyper-sensitive reactions to small things that don't warrant them - and which we see more and more from liberals these days - is part of a culture of victimology that has infected the left, probably due to a sick sense of powerlessness.  My theory will also explain spin-outs like Cynthia McKinney...
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Hangtime on April 07, 2006, 11:23:42 AM
i'm sick and tired of griefers bombing the jokes around here...
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: midnight Target on April 07, 2006, 11:36:28 AM
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Your presumption that Republicans fear everything is the largest pile of Bravo Sierra found anywhere in this thread. Except possibly you. Fear and dislike are two entirely different things. Just as fear and knowing something is wrong are two different things. Far be it from your pompous bellybutton to grasp that small tidbit of knowledge. Have a nice day.


Jeez... you conservatives just can't take a joke.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: VOR on April 07, 2006, 11:51:58 AM
I think some of you think about this BBS even when you're not logged into it, and you're becoming angry people.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: ChickenHawk on April 07, 2006, 12:16:18 PM
It's a dumb joke that has no basis in reality.  Faced with a life and death situation, party affiliation has no bearing and animal instinct takes over.  Any man, dem, rep, socialist, communist, fascist, peasant, cast member, whatever, would fight to the death to save his family.

It's human nature to put down others to make your self, and what ever group you feel a part of, feel superior and justified in your thinking and actions.  It's been going on for millennia.  Every group does it.  The unfortunate result is that generalizations and stereotyping occur and in the minds eye, perception becomes reality for the poor sap who's fallen for the propaganda.

If you find a joke about confused, weed smoking hippies disturbing, then go read some jokes about mullet wearing, dixie flag waving rednecks until you feel better.  You can't take these things too seriously because they will always be with us.

If you look at the big picture, we have bigger things to worry about and we shouldn’t waste too much energy on stupid jokes, no matter what party they make fun of.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: NattyIced on April 07, 2006, 12:42:30 PM
A republican walks into a bar, the democrats duck.

HAHAHA! POLITICAL JOKES ARE SO TEH FUNNAY!!!!1
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: AWMac on April 07, 2006, 01:25:26 PM
Dammmm and all this over a joke?  I'm glad it wasn't a Tampon commercial cuz that woulda gotten very bloody!

*No pun intended*

I now return you to your Rant already in progress......

:D

Mac
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 07, 2006, 01:36:32 PM
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Your presumption that Republicans fear everything is the largest pile of Bravo Sierra found anywhere in this thread. Except possibly you. Fear and dislike are two entirely different things. Just as fear and knowing something is wrong are two different things. Far be it from your pompous bellybutton to grasp that small tidbit of knowledge. Have a nice day.




*stands and applauds Savage*
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: lazs2 on April 07, 2006, 02:50:47 PM
I think that the joke works because so many "liberals" and democrats all feel that the solution to freedom is banning things in order to make people get along and depending on someone else to take care of their responsibilities.

lazs
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Debonair on April 07, 2006, 03:40:29 PM
i like that joke about the bear & the rabbit defecating in the woods
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Holden McGroin on April 07, 2006, 03:58:38 PM
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Originally posted by ChickenHawk
If you find a joke about confused, weed smoking hippies disturbing, then go read some jokes about mullet wearing, dixie flag waving rednecks until you feel better.  


I would think a mullet would tend to limit the sun's rays ability to burn  one's neck, so having a mullet and a red neck would be virtually impossible.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: ChickenHawk on April 07, 2006, 04:27:01 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I would think a mullet would tend to limit the sun's rays ability to burn  one's neck, so having a mullet and a red neck would be virtually impossible.


:lol good point.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: J_A_B on April 07, 2006, 09:15:07 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
"Blow his freaking head off".




That ain't gonna happen with a Glock .40.  


Shoot into your target's center of mass.   If he's worth shooting once, he's worth shooting twice.  




Incedentally, I think it's some sort of trick question, because everyone knows no self-respecting Republican would carry a Glock.  They all have 1911's or S&W's or other "manly" guns, don't they?


Oh,and I wonder how you're supposed to immediately know that the bad guy is an "Islamic Terrorist" and not just a typical nutjob with a knife.  Do terrorists carry big signs on their backs like samurai used to?


J_A_B
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Debonair on April 07, 2006, 11:59:17 PM
why did samurai have big "islamic terrorist" signs on them?
some crude form of counterintelligence?
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: FiLtH on April 08, 2006, 01:38:16 AM
Take the gun out of the equation and make it so the terrorist just has his fists. Same results I think.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on April 08, 2006, 08:39:25 AM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Take the gun out of the equation and make it so the terrorist just has his fists. Same results I think.


You mean Nash will still get his panties in a bunch? Surely removing the gun will at least make Beetle happy anyway.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Dago on April 08, 2006, 10:19:39 AM
I am loving this thread,  nash shows again just what he is, and many are becoming aware of who and what he is.  Thanks nash.

Additionally, we have a woman assaulting alcoholic weighing in and people here have long ago figured him out and learned to ignore him.

Life is so good at times like this.   :D
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Shuckins on April 08, 2006, 10:31:51 AM
I'm confused again. :confused: Didn't we come to the conclusion in another thread that we "do not have a right to not be offended?"
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: john9001 on April 08, 2006, 11:56:50 AM
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Originally posted by ChickenHawk
It's a dumb joke that has no basis in reality.  Faced with a life and death situation, party affiliation has no bearing and animal instinct takes over.  Any man, dem, rep, socialist, communist, fascist, peasant, cast member, whatever, would fight to the death to save his family.

 


not true, people have testified that even when faced with certain death they would not fight back. They have said that they could not kill even to save their own life.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: midnight Target on April 08, 2006, 12:02:33 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
not true, people have testified that even when faced with certain death they would not fight back. They have said that they could not kill even to save their own life.


Just about the only person I can attribute that kind of behavior to would be that guy who said he would "Turn the other cheek" or something like that.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on April 08, 2006, 01:36:17 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Just about the only person I can attribute that kind of behavior to would be that guy who said he would "Turn the other cheek" or something like that.


He also said something about if you didn't have a sword to go sell your cloak and buy a sword. He never expected anyone but himself to suffer the way he did without fighting back.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Dago on April 08, 2006, 02:00:40 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
not true, people have testified that even when faced with certain death they would not fight back. They have said that they could not kill even to save their own life.


An awful lot of Jews walked like sheep to the slaughter without resisting, knowing they were about to die during WW2 in concentration camps.  Read the story of Babi Yar, and so many others where there was no resistance.  Granted, resisting would have been futile, and this isn't the same as someone given the chance of defending themselves or not in a fair situation, but history and our current society is full of examples of people not resisting.  Luckily, there are more stories of those who had the will, strenght and determination to fight back, even in the knowledge that they would die, but at least die fighting.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Shuckins on April 08, 2006, 03:28:51 PM
Resistance is not futile.

I remind you of what a mere handful of Jews accomplished in the Warsaw Gettho Uprising.  Had that sort of resistance been the norm instead of the exception then the Nazis would have been faced with an insuperable problem.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Dago on April 08, 2006, 04:10:43 PM
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Originally posted by Shuckins
Resistance is not futile.

I remind you of what a mere handful of Jews accomplished in the Warsaw Gettho Uprising.  Had that sort of resistance been the norm instead of the exception then the Nazis would have been faced with an insuperable problem.


Yes, if all Jews in Europe had taken up arms, it wouild have posed a serious problem, but I suspect Germany would still have suceeded in beating them.  And the Warsaw Ghetto resistance was sadly futile, as the end result had them all killed.  Regardless, if the Nazis came to expect that fighting spirit from each and every Jewish man, it might have made a bid differance in their willingness to continue their attempt at genocide and domination.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: mentalguy on April 08, 2006, 05:11:52 PM
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Originally posted by Nash
Republicans fear science. Republicans fear other countries. Republicans fear the liberty and freedom granted by the mother-effin' Constitution of the gawdamned United States of America.


Get your head out of your oscar long enough to tack a look at this, I think you'll like it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o762HKxYMeA&eurl=
Bush has alot more stress than you'll ever have, I respect him for that.

You need to shut your mouth you F***ING panzy. Keep your mouth shut if your gonna bash someones political views.

MG
Title: Re: Red or Blue?
Post by: g00b on April 08, 2006, 05:18:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Dunno if anyone has posted this before. But I'll toss it out there anyway



Are you a Democrat, Republican or Southern
> Republican?
> Here is a little test that will help you decide.
>
> The answer can be found by posing the following
> question:
> You're walking down a deserted street with your wife
>
> and two small children. Suddenly, an Islamic
> Terrorist with a
> huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with
> you, screams
> obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and
> charges at you.
>
> You are carrying a Glock Cal. 40, and you are an
> expert shot.
> You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your
> family.
> What do you do?
>  
>  
>
_____________________________ _____________________________ ___________
>
> Democrat's Answer:
>  
>   Well, that's not enough information to answer the
> question!
> Does the man look poor! Or oppressed?
> Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire
> him to attack?
> Could we run away?
> What does my wife think?
> What about the kids?
> Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock
> the knife out
> of his hand?
> What does the law say about this situation?
> Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into
> it?
> Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what
> kind of message does this send to society and to my
> children?
> Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?
> Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be
> content just to wound me, If I were to grab his
> knees and hold
> on, could my family get away while he was stabbing
> me?
> Should I call 9-1-1?
> Why is this street so deserted?
> We need to raise taxes, have a paint and weed day
> and make this
> happier, healthier street that would discourage such
> behavior.
> This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with
> some friends for
> few days and try to come to a consensus.
>
_____________________________ _____________________________ _________
>
>  
>    Republican's Answer:
>  
>    BANG!
>
_____________________________ _____________________________ ____________
>
>
> Southern Republican's Answer:
>
> BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
> BANG! click...(sounds of reloading). BANG! BANG!
> BANG!
> BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click
> Daughter: "Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the
> Winchester Silver
> Tips or Hollow Points?
> Son: Git-r-Dun Pop! Can I shoot the next one!
> Wife: You ain't taking that to the Taxidermist!


Why you would consider not only wasting your time posting this here, but all our time in reading it, is beyond me. Unless of course that was your goal in the first place. This is like 2nd grade intelligence level drivel.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: mentalguy on April 08, 2006, 05:22:58 PM
its a joke, retard

what is it whit these idiots

im pissed right now!


MG
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: g00b on April 08, 2006, 05:28:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mentalguy
its a joke, retard

what is it whit these idiots

im pissed right now!


MG


It's a joke along the lines of...

"your mom was so fat, she looked like a cow, so I shot her and made a hamburger, hahahahaha"

Seriously, it is just that dumb. I would expect it out of a 5 year-olds mouth, not out of grown, educated adult. Might as well share photos of your feces for all the intellectual value of it.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Maverick on April 09, 2006, 11:08:36 AM
Goob,

Not saying it was the top of the line wit, but you know no one forced you to click on it and then post that you didn't like it. Threads die faster here from being ignored rather than criticising the poster or content. Just a thought.
Title: Red or Blue?
Post by: Stringer on April 09, 2006, 12:20:47 PM
I happen to be red, white and blue....you know, an American.

The label game is for the brainwashed of both parties......enjoy!