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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Wolfala on April 06, 2006, 04:30:56 AM
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If you guys can identify this aircraft, please be my guest. I havn't seen anything resembling something close to the XB-70 except in books, but this looks like precisely that from the AWST thing about the cancelled Blackstar program which was a 2 stage to orbit program mentioned here.
http://www.aviationweek.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/030606p1.xml
The full 24 meg version of the photo
http://www.park-ethereal.net/images/DSC_3522.png
I did some enhancement - if its a fake, its a very good fake b/c I can find absolutely no artifacts down to the individual pixles.
(http://www.gregburch.net/orbiter/Blackstar02.jpg)
(http://www.gregburch.net/orbiter/Blackstar03.jpg)
(http://www.gregburch.net/orbiter/Blackstar04.jpg)
(http://www.gregburch.net/orbiter/Blackstar05.jpg)
(http://www.gregburch.net/orbiter/Blackstar06.jpg)
(http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/images/ec68-2101.jpg)
XB-70 back in the 60s.
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looks like an airliner with the sun glinting off of it.
(http://hk.geocities.com/estima_a330/a330203_b16307_02.jpg)
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You're probably right Furball, but those two glints sure happen to be in the right place.
Too bad the con... chemtrail isn't a donut on a rope... makes for a much better thread.
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the aspect doesnt seem right to be a twin tail like the -70... looks more like a standard airliner to me
at that aspect for it to be a -70 i think the 'glints' shouldnt be as offcentered as they are.. they dont look much like sun reflections either so who knows
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looks like an F15 or F22 at full AB to me.
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Looks like an airliner with some odd glints to me. The perspective just isn't right for it to be a twin tail aircraft heading at that angle away from the camera, but the perspective gets lost in the zoomed-in crop.
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I have a feeling those are placed sunflare/glints..
The software now days molds it into the image.
I don't think engines would look like that during broad daylight at such a high alt.
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I'm certainly not an expert in photograph analysis or even military/civilian aircraft but that original that Wolfala linked does not look like any civilian airliner that I have seen. The tails appear to be extremely wide but more vertical than what I have seen of an F-22 and I have seen a few of them flying around down at Tyndall AFB in Panama City, FL. I would think that a zoomed in view of an F-22 would reveal the angles of the tail planes pretty easily. Also the only other aircraft I have seen with tails that wide would be an SR-71 but this one looks larger than what I have seen on a SR-71 sitting still. These also look more defined rather than the rounded shape of an SR-71 tail section.
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It's a civilian airliner all right. What you guys want to see as a second tail is the right wing. Time of photograph is dawn/dusk, as you can tell by the contrast coming off the contrail -- bright contrail, dark sky means that the sun at an angle and behind the photographer. That's also idea conditions for a glint. No need for fancy software.
Besides, afterburners aren't that bright -- you wouldn't see that much blooming in A/Bs at "broad daylight"
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The 2 glints are on the side of the plane if i'm not mistaken. The first "vertical stab" is actually a wing. Yeah?
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Sure does look like the Valkyrie, but...
The 2 bright spots, which look like jet/rocket exhaust, line up perfectly parallel with the velocity vector of the aircraft. However, there is quite a bit of of (horizontal or vertical?) separation between the contrails, suggesting that the bright spots are not the source of propulsion. Contrails coming from those bright spots would be one in front of the other, looking like a single one from this viewpoint.
You could argue that the aircraft has suddenly rolled in the time between when the photo was snapped and when the contrails formed, but I seriously doubt it... not an aircraft that large and that fast.
Apart from that, I have no idea. Certainly, never believe everything that AW&ST tells you. ;)
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First impression was an airliner, at an attitude like that shown in furball's pic. Had to really look for a twin-finned aircracft, and when I do see it, it looks all wrong, aspect wise.
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The aspect and dimensions look wrong. What I think some people are assuming the right tail is... just doesn't look wide enough to me to be a tail. Looks alot more like a wing imho.
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Originally posted by Dinger
It's a civilian airliner all right. What you guys want to see as a second tail is the right wing. Time of photograph is dawn/dusk, as you can tell by the contrast coming off the contrail -- bright contrail, dark sky means that the sun at an angle and behind the photographer. That's also idea conditions for a glint. No need for fancy software.
Besides, afterburners aren't that bright -- you wouldn't see that much blooming in A/Bs at "broad daylight"
You guys had me going for a while there but I think Dinger is right. It's nothing more than an airliner doing a slow bank to the left. The contrails do not match up for the two "vertical" points to be twin tails. It does match up for a airliner in a left bank. The bright points are just the afternoon/morning sun glinting off the aluminum lower right quarter and are blocking the camera from picking up the left wing.
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Yep, the contrails definately suggest a banking airliner. The "vertical stabilizers" look too dissimilar too.
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Originally posted by Furball
looks like an airliner with the sun glinting off of it.
(http://hk.geocities.com/estima_a330/a330203_b16307_02.jpg)
(http://www.gregburch.net/orbiter/Blackstar06.jpg)
i am 99.9% sure it is an airliner. it just doesnt look right looking at it as twin tails.
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My vote is a jetliner, sun shining off the rear
Sorry, wish it was a XB-70 variant!
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Wish I had a camera walking home from school today, saw the exact same image without the contrails or glare. Plane may have been turning slightly, but it looked exactly like the plane pictured.
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this thread reminds me of this one...
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=161305
i wish my pics were still there. :(
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I see a banking airliner now also.
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I see an Iranian super stealth, subspace guided, airborne anti torpedo- torpedo, with matter-antimatter highly ionisfied markIII warp capable engines in full impulse mode.
It may be interesting to note that this system is capable of firing, not 1, but an entire volley of, .177 calibre lead encased BB's.
You guys really oughta do something about that.
RTR
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:O kinda looks like the X-Men Jet
(http://www.inpayne.com/temp/xjet.jpg)
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The give away is the right hand "tail", its significantly larger than the left hand one.
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Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and refracted the light from Venus.
Best regards
Cement
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Thats a 737 with the new blended winglets.
From Boeing:
The Next-Generation 737-700 sports Blended Winglets, which enhance range, fuel efficiency and takeoff performance while lowering engine maintenance costs and noise. Blended Winglets are wing tip extensions which provide several benefits to aiplane operators.
Photo and text in the following link.
http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/images/commercial/737700-10.html