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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hubsonfire on April 08, 2006, 01:55:23 AM
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Because I'm a man of my word...
(http://www.furballunderground.com/Guest/spies.bmp)
Let the witch hunt begin! ;)
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Got more important things to worry about then some knuckle head spying.
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Anybody that cant just look at the map and figure out whats going on needs help.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Because I'm a man of my word...
(http://www.furballunderground.com/Guest/spies.bmp)
Let the witch hunt begin! ;)
This fall on the WB...Hub P.I., he don't live in Hawaii and drive a red Ferrari. He live in Texas and drives a red pinto:D
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Because I'm a man of my word...
(http://www.furballunderground.com/Guest/spies.bmp)
Let the witch hunt begin! ;)
LOL, you can tell the average age of these guys by their typing lol. my guess is, humm... 9, all 2 week accounts too!:lol
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does this goes back to that LCA thread, where somebody calling everyone spies because rooks pm'n people where they are? isnt robbie14 in the LCA? why is the sky blue?:rolleyes:
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hub your recent attempts to make a long thread have dropped lower and lower into the pit of pathetic.
:)
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Originally posted by killnu
does this goes back to that LCA thread, where somebody calling everyone spies because rooks pm'n people where they are? isnt robbie14 in the LCA? why is the sky blue?:rolleyes:
To me sounds like LCA's way of trying to avoid being hunted.
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With such a tactical genius as cheeto in charge of the double naughts I believe the MA will be pretty safe.
In the GHI "Free Cuba campaign of 2006" (last night), cheeto was at his finest hour at showing the true cunning and slyness in performing double naught duties.
Every time GHI or Waff would post a mission, cheeto would be on country channel asking over and over again "where is the mission going?". He always brilliantly covered his tracks by stating " I am a Rooks" and stating he would gladly join if the mission was against Knights. With the new age of double naughts such as this, Mr. Bond will be out of a job. :rofl
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<---- SPY and WITCH!!! :t
Buuuuuurn her at the stake!! Buuuuuuurn!!!...... oh... wait..... nooooooo....... heeeeeeeelp!!!!
*runs as fast as her little Hurri carries her*
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Spying is pretty low. HTC should say what their position is, if they have already forgive me, I didn't know.
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LMAO. What a primate.:rofl
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Originally posted by Schatzi
<---- SPY and WITCH!!! :t
Buuuuuurn her at the stake!! Buuuuuuurn!!!...... oh... wait..... nooooooo....... heeeeeeeelp!!!!
*runs as fast as her little Hurri carries her*
"Dragula"
Dead I am the one, Exterminating son
Slipping through the trees, strangling the breeze
Dead I am the sky, watching angels cry
While they slowly turn, conquering the worm
Dig through the ditches,
Burn through the witches
I slam in the back of my
Dragula
Dig through the ditches,
Burn through the witches
I slam in the back of my
Dragula
Dead I am the pool, spreading from the fool
Weak and want you need, nowhere as you bleed
Dead I am the rat, feast upon the cat
Tender is the fur, dying as you purr
Dig through the ditches,
Burn through the witches
I slam in the back of my
Dragula
Dig through the ditches,
Burn through the witches
I slam in the back of my
Dragula
Do it baby, Do it baby
Do it baby, Do it baby
Burn like an animal
Dead I am the knife, dig into the skin
Knuckle crack the bone, 21 to win
Dead I am the dog, hound of hell you cry
Devil on your back, I can never die
Dig through the ditches,
Burn through the witches
I slam in the back of my
Dragula
Dig through the ditches,
Burn through the witches
I slam in the back of my
Dragula
Do it baby, Do it baby
Do it baby, Do it baby
Burn like an animal
Dig through the ditches,
Burn through the witches
I slam in the back of my
Dragula
Dig through the ditches,
Burn through the witches
I slam in the back of my
Dragula
Dig through the ditches,
Burn through the witches
I slam in the back of my
Dragula
:D
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IN before the Lock :rofl
This maybe Hubs record Locked Post:lol
:rofl Spies :furious :t :mad:
Crims
479th Raiders FG :aok
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Originally posted by Jackal1
With such a tactical genius as cheeto in charge of the double naughts I believe the MA will be pretty safe.
In the GHI "Free Cuba campaign of 2006" (last night), cheeto was at his finest hour at showing the true cunning and slyness in performing double naught duties.
Every time GHI or Waff would post a mission, cheeto would be on country channel asking over and over again "where is the mission going?". He always brilliantly covered his tracks by stating " I am a Rooks" and stating he would gladly join if the mission was against Knights. With the new age of double naughts such as this, Mr. Bond will be out of a job. :rofl
Mr. brain trust also was willing to fly a goon in those missions, but stated he would not kill rooks, I know I almost fell for it:lol
shamus
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Bounce him if he's cheating. But bounce Zazen too for instigating the activity on the other sides. And all those who marched to his piper and cheated. I don't care what side or squad they're on; cheating is cheating is cheating.
To do my Hoarach impression: "Cheating is just the furballers trying to get missions out of Aces High. They're deliberately porking missions."
Heyyy ... lying is easy!!!!
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Never heard of em.
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Originally posted by killnu
does this goes back to that LCA thread, where somebody calling everyone spies because rooks pm'n people where they are? isnt robbie14 in the LCA? why is the sky blue?:rolleyes:
Yup, he is LCA. ;)
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Bounce him if he's cheating. But bounce Zazen too for instigating the activity on the other sides. And all those who marched to his piper and cheated. I don't care what side or squad they're on; cheating is cheating is cheating.
To do my Hoarach impression: "Cheating is just the furballers trying to get missions out of Aces High. They're deliberately porking missions."
Heyyy ... lying is easy!!!!
Vectoring and head-hunting has been around for as long as I can remember. It's a usefull tool in extreme situations where a faction of the community fails to adhere to the community's standard of conduct. In a perfect world we wouldn't be forced to use this tool, but in a perfect world the LCA wouldn't be hellbent and determined to ruin good fights...
Zazen
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Yup, he is LCA. ;)
If he's spying, he deserves to get booted. Period. Don't care if he's LCA.
But so do you for suborning the widespread use of such cheating in the first place.
I for one do not want to see AH turn into the same kind of idiotic thing with TK's, spies, etc. that so many online games descend into.
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
But so do you for suborning the widespread use of such cheating in the first place.
I am not spying, I'm simply reading and acting upon private messages from my friends on Rooks. ;) I don't solicit those messages I am just the innocent recipient...
Zazen
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
I for one do not want to see AH turn into the same kind of idiotic thing with TK's, spies, etc. that so many online games descend into.
Most would rather have spies determined to preserve good fights than no spies and no good fights...;)
Zazen
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Vectoring and head-hunting has been around for as long as I can remember. It's a usefull tool in extreme situations where a faction of the community fails to adhere to the community's standard of conduct. In a perfect world we wouldn't be forced to use this tool ...
The end justifies the means, huh?
The prattle of a true idiot.
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Most would rather have spies determined to preserve good fights than no spies and no good fights...;)
Somehow I don't think your definition of "most" fits any mathematical model in this known universe. By your definition 52 is "vastly" more than 48, as you recall.
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Cheeto is in DirtDevl's squad (you may remember dirt as sort of a Chi replicant- "bish suck", "your missions suck", "i like hunting bish", "look at all the bish skulls I land"). I found it interesting that he was announcing the point of origin, target, and time of launch of bish missions that hadn't yet appeared on dar. Quick check of the roster showed 6 VMF 214 memberz as rook, and 1 as bish. Few quick questions, and it was soon revealed (granted, this isn't exactly a brain trust we're dealing with) that the single bish squaddie was in fact, at the base where the mission had launched.
ZOMG CAN YOU IMAGINE?
Anyway, I had a good laugh over this. While cheeto's busy telling the bish it's an accident, and merely coincidence, Dirtdevl's announcing the next bish mission, and warkitten And robbie were proudly announcing their brilliant and successful first foray into espionage. Subtle ... like a trainwreck.
:lol
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
hub your recent attempts to make a long thread have dropped lower and lower into the pit of pathetic.
:)
Every post host helps, Bat. ;)
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Cheeto is in DirtDevl's squad (you may remember dirt as sort of a Chi replicant- "bish suck", "your missions suck", "i like hunting bish", "look at all the bish skulls I land"). I found it interesting that he was announcing the point of origin, target, and time of launch of bish missions that hadn't yet appeared on dar. Quick check of the roster showed 6 VMF 214 memberz as rook, and 1 as bish. Few quick questions, and it was soon revealed (granted, this isn't exactly a brain trust we're dealing with) that the single bish squaddie was in fact, at the base where the mission had launched.
ZOMG CAN YOU IMAGINE?
Anyway, I had a good laugh over this. While cheeto's busy telling the bish it's an accident, and merely coincidence, Dirtdevl's announcing the next bish mission, and warkitten And robbie were proudly announcing their brilliant and successful first foray into espionage. Subtle ... like a trainwreck.
:lol
:rofl
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I'll mention this in the LCA forum.
(I host forums and files and sites and all kinds of stuff on my ded-server for all kinds of people ... so don't read more into it than that.)
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Cheeto is in DirtDevl's squad (you may remember dirt as sort of a Chi replicant- "bish suck", "your missions suck", "i like hunting bish", "look at all the bish skulls I land"). I found it interesting that he was announcing the point of origin, target, and time of launch of bish missions that hadn't yet appeared on dar. Quick check of the roster showed 6 VMF 214 memberz as rook, and 1 as bish. Few quick questions, and it was soon revealed (granted, this isn't exactly a brain trust we're dealing with) that the single bish squaddie was in fact, at the base where the mission had launched.
ZOMG CAN YOU IMAGINE?
Anyway, I had a good laugh over this. While cheeto's busy telling the bish it's an accident, and merely coincidence, Dirtdevl's announcing the next bish mission, and warkitten And robbie were proudly announcing their brilliant and successful first foray into espionage. Subtle ... like a trainwreck.
:lol
If Cheeto was on the bish side, its because he's failry new to the game, and this matter will be taken care of, and the VMF-214TH BASTIGES APOLIGIZE FOR THIS,and it won't happen again. If i would have been on at the time, I would have made him get off line till he could switch back over, as we do not like that kind of crap going on either, and the players involved have been warned. Pappy69.
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:O :noid :O
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AKA and his buddies are very good at the spy thing!!!!
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If Cheeto was on the bish side, its because he's failry new to the game,
Yep thats it. He had no idea what he was doing.:huh
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I'm sure he knew what he was doing.
He probably didn't know how his squad leaders would react to it tho.
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Originally posted by JUDE69
If Cheeto was on the bish side, its because he's failry new to the game, and this matter will be taken care of, and the VMF-214TH BASTIGES APOLIGIZE FOR THIS,and it won't happen again. If i would have been on at the time, I would have made him get off line till he could switch back over, as we do not like that kind of crap going on either, and the players involved have been warned. Pappy69.
Good Man! to you & your squadron. It's not often someone has the guts to apologize for something that was beyond their control.
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I hope everyone sees the hypocrisy of Hub outing a spy.
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Originally posted by Schatzi
<---- SPY and WITCH!!! :t
Buuuuuurn her at the stake!! Buuuuuuurn!!!...... oh... wait..... nooooooo....... heeeeeeeelp!!!!
*runs as fast as her little Hurri carries her*
2mph.....down hil with the wind blowing in your back!!!!:D
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Good screen capture of a few young teens all excited about spying.....in fact, spying was part of the war, and who really cares?
No big deal to me.
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Originally posted by Zazen13
I am not spying, I'm simply reading and acting upon private messages from my friends on Rooks. ;) I don't solicit those messages I am just the innocent recipient...
Zazen
Sounds like the Martha Stewart defense.
shamus
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I don't worry much about it, knowing this kind of thing has gone on, and will go on, for years, but with spying being a hot topic in certain other threads, I thought I'd slap it up to show that A)even the groups most vocally opposed to this sort of thing will likely have members who have weak moments, and B) kids are funny.
If you didn't get a chuckle out of this (having witnessed something similar in the past), or missed this episode last night, I apologize, as without any sort of relevance, this probably seems pretty gay. ;)
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I want to salute Vader69 for his approach to the problem uncovered. While we all know it goes on, to tolerate it is wrong.
It does take the fun out of the game when someone is setting up a mission and some jerk sets it up so the other side is aware of the plans before they even start.
Spies were needed during a war with lives on the line, but are totally inappropriate for a game such as AH.
Again, salute Vader. Class move!
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Originally posted by Schatzi
<---- SPY and WITCH!!! :t
Buuuuuurn her at the stake!! Buuuuuuurn!!!...... oh... wait..... nooooooo....... heeeeeeeelp!!!!
*runs as fast as her little Hurri carries her*
I have the match and the marshmellows.
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Originally posted by Grits
I hope everyone sees the hypocrisy of Hub outing a spy.
Are you saying that Hubba Hubba is going to come out?
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I'm the husband, you're the wife. That's all that needs to be said on the matter, Lewise.
;)
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Originally posted by maxxius
2mph.....down hil with the wind blowing in your back!!!!:D
:furious :furious :furious
Its at least 20 mph!!!!! :lol
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Hub you are slowly becoming more and more my hero
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I don't get it.... Isn't spying a legitimate part of gameplay? If it weren't then why is it so easy to do? It is part of the game is it not? Is there a rule against it?
Isn't it "historical" I would think the 'win the war' types would find this realistic and historical aspect of WWII well worth nurturing.
I think it is a great help.... I applaud the spies if they keep me from taking off in an area that the enemies of fun will be around.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Originally posted by Kaw1000
AKA and his buddies are very good at the spy thing!!!!
aka is just good at reading the radar / map on the clipboard......and knows how to rally a group to defend ( and attack for that matter )
is easy to lay blame on someone, but is best not to do it with out factual information ............makes you look bad if you not got the proof.......
1st time I ever seen someone accuse aka of spying, that is just to freaking funny, :rofl
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laz is right, there is no rule against it and thats why its so easy to do. It's also historically correct, and the topic has been beat to death many times on these boards, always with the same outcome- no change.:noid
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Originally posted by Atoon
laz is right, there is no rule against it and thats why its so easy to do. It's also historically correct, and the topic has been beat to death many times on these boards, always with the same outcome- no change.:noid
Ahhh, but its not the destination thats important, its the journey getting there! These threads are so much fun! Nobody has boiled over and blown up yet, so no one has really struck a nerve yet. Still waiting. :)
Popcorn?
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When we could talk to the other chess pieces on open channel w/o using ch200 it was easy to misdirect the enemy by 'accdently' calling for a goon or jabo's to a field you were feigning an attack on.
These days there's no way to 'accidently' leak that kind of info unless you know who on your side will inform the enemy of your intentions. These days we have the equivalent of super spys who have access to what would be the most protected info in a time of war.
To call this level of spying historical is the same as calling our gameplay in the MA a true recreation of WW2. Neither are correct.
A call for the summary execution of known spys would add a bit of realisim but that option is only given, and rightly so, to the moderators and HTC staff. Until you see HT, Skuzzy or Pyro start locking the accounts of these scoundrels the argument is truly moot.
Just fly and have fun, paying $15 monthly and getting PO'd by other players actions isn't a very good recreational investment, IMO.
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Anybody that cant just look at the map and figure out whats going on needs help.
BINGO!
There are really only two things spying can accomplish that looking at the map cant.
Revealing the location of a captured CV. (I've always felt you should be using it and not hiding it)
Revealing Info on NOE missions. And with most NOE missions they can be spotted on the map long before they ever reach their targets.
so really that only leaves 1 and only sometimes the second.
I do it all the time Simply by paying attention to the map.
Here's is often what I see to tip me off of an NOE mission.
I see a dar bar upping at what is normally an insignificant (at the moment)base. That darbar suddenly disappears or appears, disappears and appears and disappears over again a few times.
This tells me something is upping from that base as the planes up they appear on dar for a breif moment then that dar goes away as they get back down under dar.
So I start looking at the map at what might be a likely target.
Most of the thinking here strat wise is pretty simplistic and one dimensional so its usually not hard to narrow down the likely bases to one or two.Then I start watching the map for other telltale signs.
Invariably someone will either screw up and pop up on dar briefly or I notice things like Facilities flashing with no darbar showing in their sector.
Now This will make me even more curious and also tells me the general heading of those under dar planes and I will radio out about a potential attack inbound on such and such a base.
From that point if in range to accomplish it in time I will head my flight to the area to invstigate and look for cons which usually bcause of their size, show up quite nicely against the water or ground even at long distances.
Remember if your in a large mass, your going to be easier to spot then a lone plane (me) Therefore I am often able to see you. without you seeing me.
Having been part of missions I know that people in them are often running their mouths more then paying attention and looking out for potential enemy dots. And even if the dots are spotted often people show poor radio dicipline and are talking so much about non mission stuff that the person who spotted it cant get a word in edgewise to let anyone know
Once spotted I will send out a warning on radio about the impending attack and either get closer to see if I can make out the general force composition and possibly attack it or I wont and simply head parallel with it radioing out its current heading and try to nail as many as I can while they are attacking using my alt to my advantage
Other missions are so slow to develop because of force composition and alt requirements of the planner they might as well announce on 200 where they are headed.
They are more then obvious. Your not going to make an above dar attack and not have it noticed unless your on the fringes of the map where there isnt alot of activity. And all it takes is one person to spot you well before you reach your target to radio out your current location, alt and heading to screw up your plans.
If your not attacked in route on above dar runs. Its not because the spies failed and you were successful in keeping it a secret. its because people didnt feel like stopping what they were doing to go after you until it was too late.
And on under dar runs its usually because nobody was paying attention to oddities on the map.Or because you actually ran a decent plan.Not because the spies didn't succeeed.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
BINGO!
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are really only two things spying can accomplish that looking at the map cant.
Revealing the location of a captured CV. (I've always felt you should be using it and not hiding it)
Revealing Info on NOE missions. And with most NOE missions they can be spotted on the map long before they ever reach their targets.
so really that only leaves 1 and only sometimes the second.
I do it all the time Simply by paying attention to the map.
Here's is often what I see to tip me off of an NOE mission.
I see a dar bar upping at what is normally an insignificant (at the moment)base. That darbar suddenly disappears or appears, disappears and appears and disappears over again a few times.
This tells me something is upping from that base as the planes up they appear on dar for a breif moment then that dar goes away as they get back down under dar.
So I start looking at the map at what might be a likely target.
Most of the thinking here strat wise is pretty simplistic and one dimensional so its usually not hard to narrow down the likely bases to one or two.Then I start watching the map for other telltale signs.
Invariably someone will either screw up and pop up on dar briefly or I notice things like Facilities flashing with no darbar showing in their sector.
Now This will make me even more curious and also tells me the general heading of those under dar planes and I will radio out about a potential attack inbound on such and such a base.
From that point if in range to accomplish it in time I will head my flight to the area to invstigate and look for cons which usually bcause of their size, show up quite nicely against the water or ground even at long distances.
Remember if your in a large mass, your going to be easier to spot then a lone plane (me) Therefore I am often able to see you. without you seeing me.
Having been part of missions I know that people in them are often running their mouths more then paying attention and looking out for potential enemy dots. And even if the dots are spotted often people show poor radio dicipline and are talking so much about non mission stuff that the person who spotted it cant get a word in edgewise to let anyone know
Once spotted I will send out a warning on radio about the impending attack and either get closer to see if I can make out the general force composition and possibly attack it or I wont and simply head parallel with it radioing out its current heading and try to nail as many as I can while they are attacking using my alt to my advantage
Other missions are so slow to develop because of force composition and alt requirements of the planner they might as well announce on 200 where they are headed.
They are more then obvious. Your not going to make an above dar attack and not have it noticed unless your on the fringes of the map where there isnt alot of activity. And all it takes is one person to spot you well before you reach your target to radio out your current location, alt and heading to screw up your plans.
If your not attacked in route on above dar runs. Its not because the spies failed and you were successful in keeping it a secret. its because people didnt feel like stopping what they were doing to go after you until it was too late.
And on under dar runs its usually because nobody was paying attention to oddities on the map.Or because you actually ran a decent plan.Not because the spies didn't succeeed.
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There are really only two things spying can accomplish that looking at the map cant.
Revealing the location of a captured CV. (I've always felt you should be using it and not hiding it)
Revealing Info on NOE missions. And with most NOE missions they can be spotted on the map long before they ever reach their targets.
so really that only leaves 1 and only sometimes the second.
I do it all the time Simply by paying attention to the map.
EXACTLY! I think all this crying about spying is stoopid. Even more calling it cheating is even more stoopid. It's not like they are trying to create an atom bomb. Sheesh.
Dok what secrets are the spy getting away with that has your panties all bunched up in your crack??
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The solution to being spied upon is really quite simple..If you don't like your personal/squadron activities telegraphed to the enemy by your own teammates and don't like having head-hunters vectored to your location, stop conducting yourselves in a manner that draws contempt from your fellow players. If you insist on pissing in the face of acceptable community standards of conduct, be very prepared to have your face pissed in as well..This may seem harsh, but it's just the way in-game justice works.
Think of it like the rapist or child molestor going to prison. The first thing that happens to him is the guards and warden look the other way and he gets the total living crap beat out of him...Just reward for his anti-social behavior...Toolsheddeing griefers are like the rapists and child molestors of AH. Be very, very carefull, the furballers are all carrying 'shanks'. ;)
Zazen
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but.... isn't the object of the game to make it as misserable an experiance as you can for as many people as you can so long as you play by the rules?
aren't spies a really cool thing for newbies with little talent to do? You can't expect them to buy a joystick and this game does have a very steep learning curve...
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Spying is "in the game" just like dive bombing B-24's.
If we weren't supposed to spy, there would be game mechanisms to prevent it.
Spying is good. It's all good.
If the game allows it, it is good.
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When did you start playing the game again Hubs? Just curious. Yes, AH has people who spy!
Oh, the horror (not to be confused with honor)!! That also means they probably have two accounts!!! That probably means they vulch themselves to get points!!!!
I guess it takes all kinds. I sometimes regret having played AW before AH. It sounds like some people are having a real blast with this game! Oh, wait... there were spies even in AW! What a quandary!
Regards,
Malta
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Originally posted by stantond
That probably means they vulch themselves to get points!!!!
:O
hap
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LOLH Hap.
What are points?
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Let em spy.
I dont care.
A properly planned and executed mission cant be stopped because of a spy.
A properly planned and exicuted can be stopped by people paying attention to whats going on.
But if Planned and executed properly are much tougher to stop even without a horde even if people do spot and try to stop it.
The vast majority of failed missions fail not because of spies. But because , Poor planning (the most common reason) and poor execution. And sometimes just plain old poor luck.
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The vast majority of failed missions fail not because of spies. But because , Poor planning (the most common reason) and poor execution. And sometimes just plain old poor luck.
Your on a roll Dred! :aok:D
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Was funny a couple of nights ago -
While we (Bish) held P23 a big darbar suddenly appeared in grid 6.14.
So we upped a mission against it, it was obvious it was coming to P23 Rooks had been after it for 6-8 hours.
After we finished decimating I was amazed to get the "nice spy you have Bish" allegations.
I mean DUH, a big darbar suddenly appears, it doens't take the brains of an Archbishop to realise whats going on.
Just to set it straight -
Both me and Ghi noticed the darbar, I took off ahead to scout, Ghi upped with main anti-hoard mission.
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Originally posted by killnu
does this goes back to that LCA thread, where somebody calling everyone spies because rooks pm'n people where they are? isnt robbie14 in the LCA? why is the sky blue?:rolleyes:
Water, the sky is blue because of the sun light hitting the water in the air. This is the same reason earth is called the blue planet. Which could raise a simular question as to why does the sky turn red/orange in the evening? Well I'm glad you asked, it's the the sun light reflecking off the dust in the air. The angle of the light show us the orange/red part of the spectrum. The same effect can be seen by passing light through a prizm which breaks the light into all colors.
So, what does this have to do with spies....nothing. Which pretty well sums up my interest in spys.
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Was funny a couple of nights ago -
While we (Bish) held P23 a big darbar suddenly appeared in grid 6.14.
So we upped a mission against it, it was obvious it was coming to P23 Rooks had been after it for 6-8 hours.
After we finished decimating I was amazed to get the "nice spy you have Bish" allegations.
I mean DUH, a big darbar suddenly appears, it doens't take the brains of an Archbishop to realise whats going on.
Just to set it straight -
Both me and Ghi noticed the darbar, I took off ahead to scout, Ghi upped with main anti-hoard mission.
There is a certain strategic value in sewing the seeds of paranoia within your adversary's psyche. Don't explain too much Kev, let their imaginations run-away and dictate their actions, it's guarenteed to reduce their effectiveness and morale.
I can't take full credit for this, it's Sun Tzu's. ;)
Zazen
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Originally posted by Drediock
This tells me something is upping from that base as the planes up they appear on dar for a breif moment then that dar goes away as they get back down under dar.
Stupid question: if I take off and stay below radar coverage no dar bar shows, isn't it? Or the bar flashes any time someone takes off, without regards to the height he gets?
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If you never get high enough to be in radar coverage, there will be no bar. The base or town icons will flash when you're within a certain range (this is, IIRC, an arena setting, and has values for both vehicles and aircraft), but there shouldn't be a bar or dots if you're under dar, IIRC. Conversely, there will be a bar if you're high enough for the radar to "see" you, and no dots until you're within a radar circle, at which time there will be both. Hope I haven't messed that up too badly.
Also, I thought the relative percentage of nitrogen in the atmosphere was the reason for the blue tint of the air, something about it's refractive/reflective quality. (I'm many years out from my last physics class). After all, water is actually clear and colorless, so the sky can't be blue because of the water, because something else is actually making the water appear to be blue.
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"Water, the sky is blue because of the sun light hitting the water in the air. This is the same reason earth is called the blue planet. Which could raise a simular question as to why does the sky turn red/orange in the evening? Well I'm glad you asked, it's the the sun light reflecking off the dust in the air. The angle of the light show us the orange/red part of the spectrum. The same effect can be seen by passing light through a prizm which breaks the light into all colors. "
Nope, wrong answer. Water or dust in the air is not it. It has to do with the wavelength of the light and it's absorption and scattering not by water or dust, but by all the molecules in the atmosphere (the gas molecules, like oxygen, nitrogen, etc).
Blue light, being a shorter wavelength, is scattered more easily, thus when the sun is out, you see blue sky because blue light waves are scattered and bounced all around. Look toward the horizon, it is paler than directly above you because of the distance. Light traveling to you from the horizon has further to go, the short wave lengths are scattered and absorbed more, thus it is paler.
The sky is orange or red in the evening because the sun is low on the horizon and the light has a further distance to travel through the atmosphere. The long wavelength oranges and reds make it through, but the blues do not.
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Thanks for the answer, Hub, I'll put you in the list of good BK vs evil ones! :D
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Originally posted by bigsky406
Water, the sky is blue because of the sun light hitting the water in the air.
I thought it was blue because if it was green you wouldn't know where to stop cutting the grass........
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Originally posted by mars01
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Dok what secrets are the spy getting away with that has your panties all bunched up in your crack??
None ... I just despise the hypocricy of condoning and suborning blatant cheating while at the same time having the gaul to criticize anyone else's style of play. And then going on to criticize the general state of the community while undermining it with this kind of activity.
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Originally posted by Gianlupo
Stupid question: if I take off and stay below radar coverage no dar bar shows, isn't it? Or the bar flashes any time someone takes off, without regards to the height he gets?
You are correct ... you have to break the 500ft AGL barrier to get the dar bar to register ... it doesn't have anything to do with where you are geographically on a map.
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
None ... I just despise the hypocricy of condoning and suborning blatant cheating while at the same time having the gaul to criticize anyone else's style of play. And then going on to criticize the general state of the community while undermining it with this kind of activity.
DoK --
I know this want you, but since you used teh word "suborn" I have to ask:
What is your take on several player's testimony that aStone offered them paypal transfer of real cash to leave rooks forever? That action is far closer to real "suborning" than what you condemn....
I was shocked....since aStone pushes "team effort, win the reset" so hard. I have troubel reconciling that with opposition to helping the "enemy" by sending players away from rooks. Seems a lot more pernicious than PM'ing a carriers location.
In fact, nothing has come closer to getting me to leave Rooks than thinking about flying on the same side as a guy who'd do that.
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Originally posted by Zazen13
...Toolsheddeing griefers are like the rapists and child molestors of AH. ...
Wow.
If you insist on pissing in the face of acceptable community standards of conduct, be very prepared to have your face pissed in as well.
What about the people who consider spying to be an affront to THEIR sense of "acceptable community standards." Did it ever once occur to you that some people don't want to play a game where they can't trust the people who are on their own team?
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Originally posted by AKWarp
"Water, the sky is blue because of the sun light hitting the water in the air. This is the same reason earth is called the blue planet. Which could raise a simular question as to why does the sky turn red/orange in the evening? Well I'm glad you asked, it's the the sun light reflecking off the dust in the air. The angle of the light show us the orange/red part of the spectrum. The same effect can be seen by passing light through a prizm which breaks the light into all colors. "
Nope, wrong answer. Water or dust in the air is not it. It has to do with the wavelength of the light and it's absorption and scattering not by water or dust, but by all the molecules in the atmosphere (the gas molecules, like oxygen, nitrogen, etc).
Blue light, being a shorter wavelength, is scattered more easily, thus when the sun is out, you see blue sky because blue light waves are scattered and bounced all around. Look toward the horizon, it is paler than directly above you because of the distance. Light traveling to you from the horizon has further to go, the short wave lengths are scattered and absorbed more, thus it is paler.
The sky is orange or red in the evening because the sun is low on the horizon and the light has a further distance to travel through the atmosphere. The long wavelength oranges and reds make it through, but the blues do not.
Your right and your wrong. Dust and particles do have a bearing on the colors.
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COPYRIGHT ©1997 BY SCIENCE MADE SIMPLE, INC.
PO Box 503, Voorhees, NJ 08043
WHY IS THE SKY BLUE?
The blue color of the sky is due to Rayleigh scattering. As light moves through the atmosphere, most of the longer wavelengths pass straight through. Little of the red, orange and yellow light is affected by the air.
However, much of the shorter wavelength light is absorbed by the gas molecules. The absorbed blue light is then radiated in different directions. It gets scattered all around the sky. Whichever direction you look, some of this scattered blue light reaches you. Since you see the blue light from everywhere overhead, the sky looks blue.
As you look closer to the horizon, the sky appears much paler in color. To reach you, the scattered blue light must pass through more air. Some of it gets scattered away again in other directions. Less blue light reaches your eyes. The color of the sky near the horizon appears paler or white.
WHY IS THE SUNSET RED?
As the sun begins to set, the light must travel farther through the atmosphere before it gets to you. More of the light is reflected and scattered. As less reaches you directly, the sun appears less bright. The color of the sun itself appears to change, first to orange and then to red. This is because even more of the short wavelength blues and greens are now scattered. Only the longer wavelengths are left in the direct beam that reaches your eyes.
The sky around the setting sun may take on many colors. The most spectacular shows occur when the air contains many small particles of dust or water. These particles reflect light in all directions. Then, as some of the light heads towards you, different amounts of the shorter wavelength colors are scattered out. You see the longer wavelengths, and the sky appears red, pink or orange.
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Slapshot, you want to be in the good list, too? ;) :D
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Originally posted by Gianlupo
Slapshot, you want to be in the good list, too? ;) :D
I already thought I was ... :O
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None ... I just despise the hypocricy of condoning and suborning blatant cheating while at the same time having the gaul to criticize anyone else's style of play. And then going on to criticize the general state of the community while undermining it with this kind of activity.
Dok you don't work for the post office do you? I'm starting to worry about you bud. :aok
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Naw!!!
But if you pay a fair price, I can put you in. :D
EDIT: of course I replied to Slapshot. Mars, you have to slow down when writing! I was coming from right, dang!
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Originally posted by Simaril
DoK --
I know this wasnt you, but since you used teh word "suborn" I have to ask:
What is your take on several player's testimony that aStone offered them paypal transfer of real cash to leave rooks forever? That action is far closer to real "suborning" than what you condemn....
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Not something I'd agree with.
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Originally posted by mars01
Dok you don't work for the post office do you? I'm starting to worry about you bud. :aok
UPS ... closer to camo color and I can carry more ord in the bigger truck.
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Light passing through the water creates the the color blue (blue light part of the spectrum). The light being bent over the horizon combined with the dust/pollution in the air creates the orange sunsets. Any good spy would know this....(oops, security leak, blown cover)
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
UPS ... closer to camo color and I can carry more ord in the bigger truck.
:rofl :aok
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
UPS ... closer to camo color and I can carry more ord in the bigger truck.
LOLHROTFF:D :lol
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Your right and your wrong. Dust and particles do have a bearing on the colors.
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COPYRIGHT �1997 BY SCIENCE MADE SIMPLE, INC.
PO Box 503, Voorhees, NJ 08043
WHY IS THE SKY BLUE?
The blue color of the sky is due to Rayleigh scattering. As light moves through the atmosphere, most of the longer wavelengths pass straight through. Little of the red, orange and yellow light is affected by the air.
However, much of the shorter wavelength light is absorbed by the gas molecules. The absorbed blue light is then radiated in different directions. It gets scattered all around the sky. Whichever direction you look, some of this scattered blue light reaches you. Since you see the blue light from everywhere overhead, the sky looks blue.
As you look closer to the horizon, the sky appears much paler in color. To reach you, the scattered blue light must pass through more air. Some of it gets scattered away again in other directions. Less blue light reaches your eyes. The color of the sky near the horizon appears paler or white.
WHY IS THE SUNSET RED?
As the sun begins to set, the light must travel farther through the atmosphere before it gets to you. More of the light is reflected and scattered. As less reaches you directly, the sun appears less bright. The color of the sun itself appears to change, first to orange and then to red. This is because even more of the short wavelength blues and greens are now scattered. Only the longer wavelengths are left in the direct beam that reaches your eyes.
The sky around the setting sun may take on many colors. The most spectacular shows occur when the air contains many small particles of dust or water. These particles reflect light in all directions. Then, as some of the light heads towards you, different amounts of the shorter wavelength colors are scattered out. You see the longer wavelengths, and the sky appears red, pink or orange.
Oh sure, through FACTS at us.... just doesn't seem fair.
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Even though all this spy stuff is interesting.....I got to say Rob Zombie is awesome!!
Can't believe no one commented on that post..lol
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PM'ing other countries should be disallowed. HT should just turn it off. It would mean I'd miss out on my infrequent little chats w/ Hooter I suppose. But then, it would also mean I wouldn't have to squelch people like RTMoose and LTOWN who for some reason, feel the need to PM me w/ insults everytime I kill them. It would also put and end to the childish ImGonnaRuinYourMission BS.
If you have something to say to other countries then you can say it on ch200 where anyone so inclined can tune it in. Maybe the children could work out a "WindTalker" code so they can send secret messages over ch200. Or, they can just get a 2nd account and sit both PC's together and play both sides at same time (like some do).
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"If you insist on pissing in the face of acceptable community standards of conduct, be very prepared to have your face pissed in as well..This may seem harsh, but it's just the way in-game justice works. "
Why dont you enlighten us? What are the "acceptable standards of conduct" that you seem to think "Most" players want to abide by? PM'ing another country to rat-out anothers mission is acceptable in your ethical universe? Where I come from people who pull crap like that get the seat of their pants dusted-off, chipped teeth, or a bloody nose. Worse, you seem proud of your actions and have absolutely no shame about them. You seem to think you are completely justified and go further by claiming that "most" people support your actions.
The best thing about certain people moving to Knights is that now, unless I tune to ch200, (which I refuse to do), I don't have to listen your silly whines about how others play the game.
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PM'ing other countries should be disallowed. HT should just turn it off. It would mean I'd miss out on my infrequent little chats w/ Hooter I suppose. But then, it would also mean I wouldn't have to squelch people like RTMoose and LTOWN who for some reason, feel the need to PM me w/ insults everytime I kill them. It would also put and end to the childish ImGonnaRuinYourMission BS.
If you have something to say to other countries then you can say it on ch200 where anyone so inclined can tune it in. Maybe the children could work out a "WindTalker" code so they can send secret messages over ch200. Or, they can just get a 2nd account and sit both PC's together and play both sides at same time (like some do).
Actually, the only thing you'd need to do, is minimizing AH and use any messenger program.
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The spies are paying their 14.95 just like everyone else and are entitled to their fun.
Is not the purpose of the game to win the war and spoil as many peoples fun as possible while doing so?
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's