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Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: JMFJ on April 10, 2006, 01:42:55 PM
There is a trick you can do in the game, in which you can pull your vehicle inside of someone elses and kill them.  Making it possible to take out a tiger with non-offensive vehicles such as the M3's & Jeeps if you know what you're doing.

HOW TO:
Pull up point blank to the target vehicle so when you get in your gun positon you are seeing the inside of the tank, start moving your gun around until you get a big spark accompanied by a loud strange noise.  Start hammering that spot for about 3-5 seconds and you will kill the person.

HOW TO DEFEND AGAINST IT:
Stay on the move, cut your engine periodically so you can hear which way they are coming from.  More times than not they are going to come at you in something fast so don't try to use your turret on M3's, M16's and Jeeps, use your pintle or hull gun.

So next time you see a Jeep charging you don't laugh, cause you may end up in the tower if you're not carefull.

I realize this is not realistic, nor anything but cheeseball.  But it is possible, and is being used alot by the few people who have found out about.

JMFJ
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Mustaine on April 10, 2006, 01:47:16 PM
IN
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Morpheus on April 10, 2006, 01:47:49 PM
cheatos r good.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Bronk on April 10, 2006, 02:07:18 PM
INconceivable









Bronk
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Goomba on April 10, 2006, 02:09:20 PM
Some momo tried to do that to me, but I got lucky and picked him off just as I heard the weird chatter JMFJ mentioned.

Don't know how, as he was already partly inside my tank.  Think I got in a last minute headshot from the pintle gun...:D

Gotta lock out that particular little Jeep stunt, btw...
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Morpheus on April 10, 2006, 02:13:34 PM
btw, this is nothing new. Years ago we'd drive around in M8's on Trinitys Tank town, run through a panzer firing the MG and get a kill at 60mph.

How is that leveling the playing field anyways?

Another nifty feature is to get a gunner into your tank which shows the icons/range of other nme GVs for the gunner. That's probably cheating too right? :rolleyes:
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Airscrew on April 10, 2006, 02:23:58 PM
Never mINd :t

I predicte not only lock but this thread will disappear as though it never existed.  
:noid :t
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Bear76 on April 10, 2006, 02:29:58 PM
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Originally posted by Morpheus
btw, this is nothing new. Years ago we'd drive around in M8's on Trinitys Tank town, run through a panzer firing the MG and get a kill at 60mph.

How is that leveling the playing field anyways?

Another nifty feature is to get a gunner into your tank which shows the icons/range of other nme GVs for the gunner. That's probably cheating too right? :rolleyes:


Just can't help it can u morph:rolleyes:
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: RTSigma on April 10, 2006, 02:30:37 PM
I seriously hope you fall down a flight of stairs and learn the errors of your ways...
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Morpheus on April 10, 2006, 02:30:59 PM
I agree.
Title: Re: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Eagler on April 10, 2006, 02:33:32 PM
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Originally posted by JMFJ
HOW TO:
... positon you are seeing the inside of the tank, start moving your gun around until you get a big spark accompanied by a loud strange noise.  Start hammering that spot .....


sounds like you discovered a GV's G-Spot? :)
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: JMFJ on April 10, 2006, 02:42:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Morpheus
btw, this is nothing new. Years ago we'd drive around in M8's on Trinitys Tank town, run through a panzer firing the MG and get a kill at 60mph.

How is that leveling the playing field anyways?

Another nifty feature is to get a gunner into your tank which shows the icons/range of other nme GVs for the gunner. That's probably cheating too right? :rolleyes:


You assume too much, or your bragging.  Posting it here lets everyone be on the same knowledge base which makes it not unique, which makes it not as affective as it was.  You want me to explain to you how to turn on your engine too.:rolleyes:

Your the first to chime in with "why are you telling us this", and then go right into PRETENDING YOU INVENTED IT :rofl , LOLOLOL.  You really have no shame.

JMFJ
Title: Re: Re: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: JMFJ on April 10, 2006, 02:44:33 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
sounds like you discovered a GV's G-Spot? :)


LOL except you left out the 3-5 seconds LOL :lol

JMFJ
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Airscrew on April 10, 2006, 02:49:28 PM
^^ :rofl
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Morpheus on April 10, 2006, 02:50:04 PM
See Rule #4, #5
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: JMFJ on April 10, 2006, 03:10:42 PM
See Rule #4, #5
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: FiLtH on April 10, 2006, 03:13:42 PM
In ww2ol they called it clipping. It was frowned upon there and people were ejected if caught doing it.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Morpheus on April 10, 2006, 03:18:49 PM
See RUle #5
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: hubsonfire on April 10, 2006, 03:20:23 PM
By "level the playing field", he means "make life easier for campers who were getting whacked by jeepz".

Now, instead of the level playing field you claim you want, we'll have 10 times as many people trying this. WTG.

BTW, JMFJ, the phrase you're looking for is, "You're an idiot."
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Aubrey on April 10, 2006, 03:20:53 PM
I have not playedINawhile. Are the jeeps cool?
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Alky on April 10, 2006, 03:22:23 PM
I don't GV much but wonder why there's no crash detection of enemies as there is in aircraft?
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Brenjen on April 10, 2006, 03:26:32 PM
This is an old bug that has cropped back up. They had it fixed six to eight months ago ( give or take ). So this is now confirmed to have begun happening again?:furious
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: 38ruk on April 10, 2006, 03:31:08 PM
It would have been better to send this to support@hitechcreations.com , rather than posted here. AS Hub stated 10X as many will be trying this.

SEE RULE #8

 8- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed. Email support@hitechcreations.com to report any issues regarding this. HTC permanently bans anyone caught cheating in Aces High. We take cheating and allegations of cheating very seriously.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Simaril on April 10, 2006, 03:37:30 PM
Is a "cheat" just an exploit gone bad?
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: JMFJ on April 10, 2006, 03:49:42 PM
I asked HITech in reference about this bug http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html in another thread last month as to whether it was cheating, he didn't say it was, he also didn't say it wasn't.  I'm pretty sure they know about it i've heard countless people saying they are gonna email HITech about it.

I evened the playing field by telling everyone how to do it, BUT! I also told them how to defend themselves against it.

This is no different then discussing the shore battery bug, if people don't know about it they can't defend themselves against it.

I'm helping the people who fall prey to it more than i'm helping others accomplish it.

It is easier to stop someone from getting you, than it is to actually get someone with it.

So in the long run, due to proper info of defense it will cause a reduction as a whole, because people will more likely get killed trying it.   Because everyone has become familiar with how to defend themselves against it, until HT gets it fixed.

To me cheating is doing something that others cannot, in this case everyone can equally.  I think it is a stretch to say me helping people defend themselves is helping them cheat.

JMFJ
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: guttboy on April 10, 2006, 04:07:12 PM
IN
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: hubsonfire on April 10, 2006, 07:26:07 PM
The thread you linked is just the homepage. In case you missed it, notify HTC via email about exploits and such. I don't care if a few of you camping tools harass each other perpetually, but I sure as hell don't want an arena in which everyone is exploiting everything.

You're still not helping anyone.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: NoBaddy on April 10, 2006, 08:28:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JMFJ
I asked HITech in reference about this bug http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html in another thread last month as to whether it was cheating, he didn't say it was, he also didn't say it wasn't.  I'm pretty sure they know about it i've heard countless people saying they are gonna email HITech about it.



Of course, you realize that by admitting AND posting here that you use this flaw in the program to gain an advantage, you are opening yourself up to be banned from the game?

See I,11 of the TOS.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Eagler on April 10, 2006, 08:35:50 PM
what's the shore battery bug?
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Vudak on April 10, 2006, 08:38:54 PM
On the plus side, this thread being started seven hours ago and during the workday, and not having yet vanished, is probably a pretty good indication that alot of work got done on TOD today :aok
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Morpheus on April 10, 2006, 09:52:06 PM
I cheat every time I log in.


























































































































...on stang with Sniper. He's way hotter.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: zorstorer on April 10, 2006, 09:54:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Morpheus

Another nifty feature is to get a gunner into your tank which shows the icons/range of other nme GVs for the gunner. That's probably cheating too right? :rolleyes:



Naaaa thats just a good gunner with a Mk2 calibrated eyeball.   :noid
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: 38ruk on April 10, 2006, 10:19:55 PM
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...on stang with Sniper. He's way hotter.


LOL
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: 38ruk on April 10, 2006, 10:28:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JMFJ
I asked HITech in reference about this bug http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html in another thread last month as to whether it was cheating, he didn't say it was, he also didn't say it wasn't.  I'm pretty sure they know about it i've heard countless people saying they are gonna email HITech about it.

I evened the playing field by telling everyone how to do it, BUT! I also told them how to defend themselves against it.

This is no different then discussing the shore battery bug, if people don't know about it they can't defend themselves against it.

I'm helping the people who fall prey to it more than i'm helping others accomplish it.

It is easier to stop someone from getting you, than it is to actually get someone with it.

So in the long run, due to proper info of defense it will cause a reduction as a whole, because people will more likely get killed trying it.   Because everyone has become familiar with how to defend themselves against it, until HT gets it fixed.

To me cheating is doing something that others cannot, in this case everyone can equally.  I think it is a stretch to say me helping people defend themselves is helping them cheat.

JMFJ



 I didnt type "See rule #8 " to infer that you are cheating , but to show what should be done when you have an issue with an exploitation ,or "cheat" .  It is just cleaner for all involved if this is taken care of privately IMHO.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Slash27 on April 10, 2006, 10:29:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Eagler
what's the shore battery bug?



On some of the maps, or maybe just one, you could park inside the SB without being seen and pop GVs at will.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Bear76 on April 11, 2006, 01:20:44 AM
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Originally posted by Alky
I don't GV much but wonder why there's no crash detection of enemies as there is in aircraft?

I agree. Should be the same.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: Bear76 on April 11, 2006, 01:23:06 AM
Quote
Originally posted by 38ruk
It would have been better to send this to support@hitechcreations.com , rather than posted here. AS Hub stated 10X as many will be trying this.

SEE RULE #8

 8- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed. Email support@hitechcreations.com to report any issues regarding this. HTC permanently bans anyone caught cheating in Aces High. We take cheating and allegations of cheating very seriously.


Not even close to the same thing. Cable jerking, ya. Exploiting a quirk of the game ain't the same thing.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: JMFJ on April 11, 2006, 09:28:01 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hubsonfire
You're still not helping anyone.


I'm helping you get out some of that pent up anger.

JMFJ
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: hubsonfire on April 11, 2006, 11:48:48 AM
On the contrary, if I got mad every time I read something on these boards which could be qualified as stupid, counterproductive, or otherwise useless, I'd have had a massive coronary within hours of finding this board. The only thing you're helping to accomplish is causing increasing numbers of newer players to exploit the game, by explaining how, and then saying "shooting them before they can use the exploit will keep this in check". Duh, gee, ya think? That's a great fix for everything. This mindset that explaining exploits in detail somehow helps is only going to set an ever lower standard for the next new guy, who'll likely try it, ad infinitum.

About the only positive effect this could possibly have, through no effort or intent, is that all the idiots will gravitate toward camping and racing to use the exploit before it can be done to them, thereby keeping the chaff out of my airspace. Again, I'm sure the guys who primarily play around in GVs won't appreciate this trend, but it might make things better for me.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: navajoboy on April 11, 2006, 11:59:25 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Morpheus

...on stang with Sniper. He's way hotter.


heard ya got it with bbqbob too?

on a lighter note.
i believe the collision model should exist the same with gv as it is with aircraft.. think about a jeep running into a brickwall rearend of a tank. wouldnt be pretty to see it....
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: JMFJ on April 11, 2006, 12:12:59 PM
This thread got closed and now it's back open, why?

Hub-For someone who has no clue who the GV community is, your a great spokesperson.  Your one voice, a loud and abnoxious one, but one none the less.

I Like the idea of collided result if you run into an enemy GV, just like in planes

JMFJ
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: hubsonfire on April 11, 2006, 12:21:48 PM
"You're"
"obnoxious"

Don't throw around insults that you can't even spell.

It was probably unavailable while some of the posts were deleted, scroll back up.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: JMFJ on April 11, 2006, 12:29:12 PM
Sorry I didn't know I get extra points for grammar.  Man that's gonna kill my spelling rank LOL.

JMFJ
Title: JMFJ posts a message concerning . . .
Post by: shiningpathb4me on April 11, 2006, 02:04:30 PM
Jeep dweebary and a bunch of guys who apparently have nothing better to do post 100 messages bashing him for it. His critics are people I've never seen in a tank. What is wrong with you? Your mothers lock you in a closet as children or something? Talk about wasting bandwidth? It's all some of you do.  If your not interested in some game exploit pertaining to GV's then go read some other thread and don't bother the rest of us with your opinions on the subject.  

I appreciate the effort JMFJ.  I'd heard of the exploit and I make sure I kill any dolt that even looks like he's trying to get close to my tank. I spent an entire afternoon recently sitting near the radar shack by V5 (ozkansas) killing panzers that were trying to drive inside it :) Not realizing the bug was fixed, a couple even flipped their tanks trying to get through the door.
Title: Just thought I'd even the playing field
Post by: 38ruk on April 11, 2006, 09:23:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bear76
Not even close to the same thing. Cable jerking, ya. Exploiting a quirk of the game ain't the same thing.


You really need to read the whole thread, look a few posts up from where you posted the quote above