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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: B@tfinkV on April 11, 2006, 03:07:15 PM
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the argument for why can be seen all over the boards, so i wont bother.
Just interested to see how many would like it returned.
1 vote change it back.
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1 vote for change it back
If someone vulches you off of a field move to another field. Or report it to HTC.
JMFJ
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Originally posted by JMFJ
Or report it to HTC.
JMFJ
Hmmm... let's see. leave it the way it is, less work for HTC. Change it back, constant babysitting...
Wonder what they gonna choose....
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I'd still rather them turn it back and ignore the jerks, then keep it the way it is. As I stated before you can always move to another field, which was my choice rather than get mad about a dork vulchin.
And if that dork followed me to another field I'd just vulch him lol.
JMFJ
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Put it back please. Not willing to help is one thing. Punishing me for asking for help while rewarding the behavior of a bunch of free loaders, is just wrong.
:cry
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Originally posted by WMLute
Hmmm... let's see. leave it the way it is, less work for HTC. Change it back, constant babysitting...
Wonder what they gonna choose....
Babysiting? Apart of reading some BBS threads I don't think he did anything.
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another vote to change it back:)
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Why? We can't use it for GV training anymore. We used to be able to teach others how to disable/kill other vehicles. Now we can't. When you deliver a shot that would have taken out an engine or turret, you just die. It is impossible to test/train when you can't see the true effects of the shot.
The solutions offered by others (to work around this problem) don't work. Setting up a h2h arena is impossible without specialized networking knowledge/equipment. I've spent days trying to do it and despite all of the well meaning helpers, can't create an arena that anyone else can join.
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Originally posted by shiningpathb4me
Why? We can't use it for GV training anymore. We used to be able to teach others how to disable/kill other vehicles. Now we can't. When you deliver a shot that would have taken out an engine or turret, you just die. It is impossible to test/train when you can't see the true effects of the shot.
The solutions offered by others (to work around this problem) don't work. Setting up a h2h arena is impossible without specialized networking knowledge/equipment. I've spent days trying to do it and despite all of the well meaning helpers, can't create an arena that anyone else can join.
if you use a router it plays with it. i might be able to help you, i had the same problem before
still, the DA shouldnt have KS on, it doesnt feel right
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Ive been in there twice since the change and didnt hear one argument. Of course it may be because their were few in there. But how it is right now isnt too bad. The short flight from a base gives you time to get a little alt, something we'd do anyways really. And the scenary is nice :)
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signed
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
the argument for why can be seen all over the boards, so i wont bother.
Just interested to see how many would like it returned.
1 vote change it back.
Same here:furious
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Originally posted by FiLtH
The short flight from a base gives you time to get a little alt, something we'd do anyways really. And the scenary is nice :)
and discuss the last merge and fight.
what it takes all of 2 minutes to meet each other in the center? man you guys are babies.
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Originally posted by Mustaine
and discuss the last merge and fight.
what it takes all of 2 minutes to meet each other in the center? man you guys are babies.
OK, either play the game and have an opinion about how I should play it, or be quiet. Thats not the problem. The problem is that you go there and can't find any one. You can only fight 1 guy and that is by pointment only. It has nothing to do with the 2 minutes. The place is just empty
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The problem is that you go there and can't find any one. You can only fight 1 guy and that is by pointment only.
Imagin that , It is being used as intended.
HiTech
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Originally posted by hitech
Imagin that , It is being used as intended.
HiTech
Well, I guess that's the be all and end all for anyone who ever argued furballers should migrate to the DA.
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Originally posted by hitech
Imagin that , It is being used as intended.
HiTech
:aok I bet you had to think about that response.
I'm sure that was meant as a constructive comment.
As you once said"It's my house"
True but remember ,who helps you to keep the lights on.
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Originally posted by hitech
Imagin that , It is being used as intended.
HiTech
Imagine that. No one cared what the intent was until we asked for help.
Thats just being stuborn. Was it really intented to be empty? Does it really matter what the intent was? It was used by people for years in a different way. People that pay you every month.
You only figured out it was not used as it was intented to be after we asked for help? I really fail to see your reasoning here. How would it hurt HT (meaning the company and not individual egos) if you changed it back?
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Dedalos: You are way off base as to why things transpired, Think of it much more as I tolerated the behavior in the DA by you and others untill it went overboard.
Your issue is not realy with the DA, but wrather the style of game play you desire.
HiTech
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Funny thing about all this is that a simple MOTD like the TA has was the original request way back when. I bet if that was done the DA would have not gotton off track the way it did. Seems like it would have been a simple thing to do.
Squads used to train in the DA and had a lot of good people in there to 1 vs 1 with....no appointment needed.
Now its a ghost town.
Anyway just my thoughts.....Its HTC's call so be it
Just seems a waste of a good areana
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My take is, on the eighth day Hitech created AH MA. He intended us to use it to its fullest. Some guys bombing, some guys furballing, some guys roping, some guys picking. Just as long as the majority of the subscribers are in that world, making use on the massive online experience.
We complain in game and on the forums to one another, about eachother. When in reality its THAT drama that keeps us coming back. It isnt the art, the fights, the physics. You could get that in an online game. Its the mass of folks in a full arena some working together, some mildly hostile, that pumps us up and keeps us paying that 14.99 a month.
(end with standard South Park style freaky ending...roll credits)
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stickpig: Been there done that motd thing in the training arena. Didn't help the situation there.
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Rgr That...... Must have been awhile back. I know in the last 6 months I saw many requests for a MOTD. (I made a couple myself) But like I said, Its your areana. I wish it was the way it used to be, but its your call. No worries.
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hitech the only thing I'll add is that although you intended the DA for one thing, it became something else. For awhile there it took on a life of it's own and was actually a viable arena that some preferred to other arenas. Many nights you'd find more people in there than in the CT, TA and SEA. It was as many people in here would say a "furball" arena. It was a place to escape from the "war" going on in the MA and have some mindless fun. The days of taking someone to the DA to settle a dispute are long gone. And with the old settings, you could still set up a meeting if you wanted too at an empty base(s) and do whatever. Basically you had everything you thought the DA was intended for, and a lot more. The old DA had so much potential to be a fun place to fly. Like most said, all it needed was a few mods to keep the bad apples in check. I really wish you'd reconsider. Just because something doesn't end up as you intended doesn't mean it's a bad thing. I for one found the old DA the main reason I logged in every night. And I know more than a few others who did as well. Did it cause me to quit, no. But it did take some of the fun outta the game for me.
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Originally posted by hitech
Dedalos: You are way off base as to why things transpired, Think of it much more as I tolerated the behavior in the DA by you and others untill it went overboard.
Your issue is not realy with the DA, but wrather the style of game play you desire.
HiTech
You tolerated my behavior in the DA:confused: What behavior might that be? Having fun? Helping others? Sory about that. You took the fun out and if helping others is a problem, I wont do it again.
Yes my issue is the game play I desire. What else could it be? There was a game play I liked in there and paid you for, and you took it away.
You still did not answer my question though. What would be the problem if you put it back the way it was? There were complains then and there are complains now, so what is the difference?
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arena where killshooter was turned off? Or would there be maintenance issues, resources, etc that would make that undesireable? I think for dueling purposes the current setting is probably the best. I can see why the free-for-all people would want it changed back. My only interest is in getting a place where we can do GV testing while talking to each other on VOX. Sort of like a classroom atmosphere . . .I finally got h2h working, but within 1 min of having my own arena, the class was invaded by a sociopath who interrupted the entire thing before we could even get it going. Of course one could easily disrupt things in the DA, and, as I recall, that has happened in the past. Maybe I should use a map w/ so many bases that the delinquent can't find us, or, has to drive so far to get to us that he moves on to annoy someone else. (Sorry for thinking out loud) :)
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Who were all these people complaining in the first place, I personally only heard someone complain about the vulching and otherwise unnecessary behavior in the DA 1 time.
I used to go there all the time, to warm up before i'd go in the MA or to show a squaddie a trick i learned, or just to have a free for all amongst the squad.
But now you can't have a free for all when there are two sides.
The DA has been basically a ghost town since the change.
So it's HITech's choice but I think the few problems that were occuring were severely embelished.
JMFJ
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Originally posted by JMFJ
...or just to have a free for all...
thats pretty much what it was at the end.... nowhere near a duel ing arena.
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HiTech, if I may, let me give an example of a situation that occured a month or so ago. My squad, The Air Raiders, is up to have their monthly squad competition (which, at the time, was going to be a GV battle). A month or so previous to that, my squad CO, Lambo, and I went into the tanking section to check out the layout of the DA TT for the competition. It was perfect.
Well, we went in there the night before the comptetion and, of course, killshooter had been turned on. The spawns into the TT were both Bishop, I believe. Thus, the point of having a GV battle was moot.
I guess my question is, can the TT be set to two different countries spawning into it, or would that be more trouble than it's worth? We wound up not doing the GV battle, in hopes Killshooter would be turned off. Look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks and
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1 Vote Change it back
we like to do KOTH and Squad oriented Stuff in the DA now WE CANT
id Really like to see it get changed for that fact alone
Wannab
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superdud summed my feeling up pretty well.
and Hitech, i can assure you with the highest integrity, Dedalos was certainly not one of the problems (except when he beat me).
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Originally posted by ClevMan
HiTech, if I may, let me give an example of a situation that occured a month or so ago. My squad, The Air Raiders, is up to have their monthly squad competition (which, at the time, was going to be a GV battle). A month or so previous to that, my squad CO, Lambo, and I went into the tanking section to check out the layout of the DA TT for the competition. It was perfect.
Well, we went in there the night before the comptetion and, of course, killshooter had been turned on. The spawns into the TT were both Bishop, I believe. Thus, the point of having a GV battle was moot.
I guess my question is, can the TT be set to two different countries spawning into it, or would that be more trouble than it's worth? We wound up not doing the GV battle, in hopes Killshooter would be turned off. Look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks and
Agreed that the tankers should have 2 countries to fight from. Good idea. Should probably be changed.
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yeah, i fully agree, HT should re-make the DA map to cater for one squad and not do a far more simple thing which would equally help that squad out and make everyone else happy
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I think most of you know my vote, which is to give us back the old DA.
Now I've been on AH exactly one year, and the old DA was what I knew when I started and was part of what I was paying for at the time, though I had know way of knowing it was "unintended usage". Whether HT intended it or not, they provided it, they allowed it, and were perfectly willing to let me think it was part of the 'package' and let me pay for it.
Now they take it away in a very unfortunate manner and say it wasn't intended to be used that way as justification. People seem to be unhappy about this left and right, but they still don't seem to care. I find that very unsatisfying and believe they are now just being stubborn about changing it back.
All this means that for quite a number of their customers, they have significantly diminished the enjoyment of the game, and reduced the incentive to keep paying for it. Probably not to the point of mass exodus, which is the only thing I suspect that would make them care. Still, some people may get tired of the game sooner than they otherwise would because one enjoyable element of the game is no longer available. Seems like a very counter-productive business plan to me.
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Originally posted by VIC
:aok I bet you had to think about that response.
I'm sure that was meant as a constructive comment.
As you once said"It's my house"
True but remember ,who helps you to keep the lights on.
:aok :aok :aok :aok :aok
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I can't pwn my unsuspecting teammates, I'm quitting
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1 Vote for changing it back
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I miss our squad ffa's there . i have no reason to go there anymore
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dont worry booz, with your vote we can help you regain your place in the da l33tvulching ladder :p
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One more vote for killshooter off.
If you leave killshooter on, then at least fix the map. Make opposing fields belong to different countries and move some fields closer.
Originally posted by hitech
Think of it much more as I tolerated the behavior in the DA by you and others untill it went overboard.
Are you saying that Dedalos and other DA regulars (that includes me) were the real problem?
Talk about adding insult to injury...
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Another vote to change it back I don’t know what happened to make them change it in the fist place I took a little break from flying and when I come back my favorite room is all messed up so please change it back the best room in this game is the dueling room or at least it was
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Originally posted by Mustaine
thats pretty much what it was at the end.... nowhere near a duel ing arena.
Wow ... if I remember correctly, you cancelled your account quite some time ago, so how would you know ... "thats pretty much what it was at the end" ... ?
It still was a duel ing arena in every aspect that it was originally designed for ... but it became something more with killshooter on.
The MA has sucked so bad as of late, I was beginning to spend more and more of my time in the DA to quench my dogfighting thirst and found that with killshooter on ... I could get twice, if not three times more duels in than if killshooter was off.
An advantage of the previous setup, was that I could very easily pick who I wanted to duel, due to the fact that I could see their name. You simply lift, extent (get some speed), turn around and check-six who you might want to fight. Once that fight ended, and if I was the victor, I could then repeat the above ... so on and so on. The person that I just dueled could lift and we could be back into a fight within 30-60 seconds ... rinse and repeat. It was great.
My preference was to pick pilots that I felt were of my same caliber or better, and not club the noobs. If a noob did check-six me, I would be more than happy to fight them and take into consideration their ability and try to make the fight longer and more meaningfull for them. When the fight ended, we could discuss what happened over "range" vox, without having to tune to this and that radio. With the current setup, all the above is gone.
Other squads have voiced that squad KOTH or furballs are defunct now cause of killshooter off ... that's a shame. We (BKs and 13th TAS) have done that many times ourselfs and it was a blast. You pick one of the high alt bases, lift, drop off the edge of the cliff, gain instant fight speed, and have at it ... all within 30 seconds ... doesn't get any better than that. This allowed the furball to be consistenly and constantly fed due to the fact that each person could get back into the fray in a very short amount of time.
Current settings means you have to fly a few minutes to get back to the fur, and if you just happen to die within the first 30 seconds of rejoining the fur, you now have to fly all the way back again ... boring and it sucks.
I just find it hard to believe that HTC could not find some reputable people who did/would spend a good amount of in the DA to moderate it ... so that those who didn't play nicely with others, could be handled just the same as they are in the TA if they don't play nicely. That would have solved the problem. HT/HTC decided to take the path of least resistance ... on one hand I can see why he did what he did ... on the other hand, I wish he did take the time to really work the problem for the greater good.
Killshooter back on would be good.
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See Rule #2, #4
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Originally posted by SlapShot
If a noob did check-six me, I would be more than happy to fight them and take into consideration their ability and try to make the fight longer and more meaningfull for them.
a very good point, and one that i'd bet the majority of older players would have adheared to when in the DA. The problem was only ever noobs disrupting noobs. Or sometimes noobs in 163s messing up private events.
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Originally posted by dedalos
See Rule #2, #4
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Originally posted by SlapShot
An advantage of the previous setup, was that I could very easily pick who I wanted to duel, due to the fact that I could see their name. You simply lift, extent (get some speed), turn around and check-six who you might want to fight. Once that fight ended, and if I was the victor, I could then repeat the above ... so on and so on. The person that I just dueled could lift and we could be back into a fight within 30-60 seconds ... rinse and repeat. It was great.
the problem with that unwritten "rule" is how do you learn it? back when i was flying i had no clue about it, spent 15 minutes in the DA typing on 200: "anyone want to duel?" with no responses even though 25 were in the arena. i know others did not know that "rule of engagement" for a long time also. i gave up on the DA because i could never find a fight that wasn't the "furball"
yes you got your fight every minute or so, which to you is ideal. to some, the DA was meant to settle 1-1 grudges, teaching, or whatever, but not necessarilly a semi-organized furball. trying to go in there and do a 1-1 from what everyone was posting here is that it would get interrupted by n00bs or whatever. there was a total loss of control on all sides of the coin it would seem. HT lost control of what he wanted the DA to be, and the DA regulars lost control of their own restraint. not to be disrespectful, but you were thrilled you could get that many quick fights. yeah for you. there is something to be said for patience. when i did duel in there 1-1 as opposing countrys i never waited to fight, other than picking the common plane. there was like i said previous, maybe 2 minutes flying towards each other before the merge. anyway, just because some were able to morph the DA into their "dream" arena, it still doesn't negate the fact some wanted something else from the arena. obviously from HiTech's post i am guessing he wanted something else there too.
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Originally posted by Mustaine
just because some were able to morph the DA into their "dream" arena, it still doesn't negate the fact some wanted something else from the arena.
The fast paced duels were at one, two fields. All other fields were free for those who enjoyed "transit" time more than the fights...
Why do you think HTC is going to implement time/space warps into ToD? For the sake of realism or maybe because players have better things to do than watch E6B for an hour?
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Originally posted by Mustaine
the problem with that unwritten "rule" is how do you learn it? back when i was flying i had no clue about it, spent 15 minutes in the DA typing on 200: "anyone want to duel?" with no responses even though 25 were in the arena. i know others did not know that "rule of engagement" for a long time also. i gave up on the DA because i could never find a fight that wasn't the "furball"
yes you got your fight every minute or so, which to you is ideal. to some, the DA was meant to settle 1-1 grudges, teaching, or whatever, but not necessarilly a semi-organized furball. trying to go in there and do a 1-1 from what everyone was posting here is that it would get interrupted by n00bs or whatever. there was a total loss of control on all sides of the coin it would seem. HT lost control of what he wanted the DA to be, and the DA regulars lost control of their own restraint. not to be disrespectful, but you were thrilled you could get that many quick fights. yeah for you. there is something to be said for patience. when i did duel in there 1-1 as opposing countrys i never waited to fight, other than picking the common plane. there was like i said previous, maybe 2 minutes flying towards each other before the merge. anyway, just because some were able to morph the DA into their "dream" arena, it still doesn't negate the fact some wanted something else from the arena. obviously from HiTech's post i am guessing he wanted something else there too.
Just goes to show that you are relying on what you percieved from posts and what you knew (in the past) about the DA, as opposed to what was really going on.
When entering the DA, everyone ends up in the A1 tower ... that is typically where all the fights orginated from ... those fights that I described above and that is the field that the problems were found.
It wasn't a question of no one knows the secret handshake ... do it wrong once and you were given the benefit of the doubt, and then told how to do it. The problem was those that were told (politely) numerous amounts of times ignored each and every person that TRIED to tell them how to do it correctly.
1 v 1 were getting disturbed at A1, not the other fields. If I checked-sixed you, and you and I were dueling from 5000 ft AGL to 500 ft AGL, some newbtard would zoom in on our fight and pick the easiest one ... not fun and it pissed people off ... and guess what ... that can still happen in today's DA. Any tard can tell when 2 guys are going at it ... and most with an IQ above 70 could surmize that maybe they should stay away or above the action and watch until it concluded ... yet some refused to do just that.
If people wanted to settle 1 v 1 noodle measuring matches ... if they wanted private dueling instructions ... there were/are more than enough other fields to do just that. You want to go to another field and climb out for an hour or so before engaging ... you could have done it and can still do it. What went on at A1 in no way disturbed the rest of the arena.
Bottom line is that the DA still did and does accomodate those types of fights ... we would just like it to be a place where it can also accomodate the "other" types of fights too.
You weren't there.
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See Rule #4, #5
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H2H is a better place to learn... Da is full of hot heads and kids..
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Originally posted by dedalos
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i dont care if i dont fly now, until a few months ago when finances went to **** i flew for over 3.5 years, and for more than a year the DA was usless except for what you describe, multiple @ 1 base, chk 6 then fight and get cherrypicked by some dork.
i went in there as JB73 a few times, ALOT as my shades SCHM0E when i had that one, and then more Mustaine before i ditched the 73 CPID. i had another shades for a while but for the life of me can't remember the CPID... but that one went in there too.
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Ahh JB, that explains why it was useless to you
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Maybe you can set a "take control" function on certain bases, where someone can take control of a base, each person can only take control of 1, and they can limit flight from that base.
use a gui like the take command of cv interface.
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Oh... and i almost forgot.
i set a H2H arena once, where it was check 6 only rules, i was fighting someone, and HT joined, right before he left he cherrypicked me mid fight :mad: :mad: :furious :mad: :D
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'take control' funtion would be awesome, great idea furby.
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I say leave it like it is. and if possible table any further arguments/discussins/ debates/whines/complaintes ect till AFTER combat tour is out and HT and co can work without these distractions.
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
I say leave it like it is. and if possible table any further arguments/discussins/ debates/whines/complaintes ect till AFTER combat tour is out and HT and co can work without these distractions.
:rofl An other one that has never been in there, yet has an opinion of how the DA should be. Why do you care if you are not using it?
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change it back please please
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My first month playing i spent in the old DA and it was the only reason i subscribed and if it wasnt for the squad i found the day after KS was turned on
i would have quit. The MA is fun but its the only place there is to go now that the DA is a ghost town. the DA is now an appointment only arena but it was always an appointment arena there were tons of other fields besides a1 you could go with another person. but a1 was the place to go to meet new people and make new friends.
My vote is definitly to change it back.
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The other night, a couple rooks were complaining that they were not winning many dogfights, so I offered to take them to the DA and help them out a little bit. I am nothing special, but I am able to provide a foundation on which to build.
Do you realize the difficulty of taking a new player(s) to the DA, getting them on a proper radio or text channel when we cannot be on the same country because of killshooter? Normally it is a difficult task, now its even more so.
I like using fields 17 and 18 in the DA. Lift, climb to prescibed alt, head towards each other and duke it out. Cant do that anymore with killshooter. Also, If I want to change the combatants, they have to change countries????? Too much BS, esp for a new player.
I found myself apologizing to the participants because of all the hoops we had to jump through to do something that was previously fairly simple.
Whoever made this change deserves a pink slip in their check and should change it back the way it was before leaving HiTech property.
You guys have castrated this arena and isnt good for anything anymore IMO.
CHANGE IT BACK PLEASE
-Helbent
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If HT changed it back, you'd have the same squeaky teens vulching and not checking 6's, then whining when people have to gang up on them to stop it.
Our only hope is Silat's anti-teen haxxor squelch coad.
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burn stang at the stake, he is pro killshooter!!1
recently i have had some fun 1 on 1s by appointment, but even yesterday i was in there with 3 regular dueling buddies and we all commented on how much time was wasted flying between fields.
we even went as far as holding fire when an obvious victory has been achieved, to save having to fly from the other side of the sector again.
the only benifit of fighting a red icon not green is colisions are back on, which stop people being able to shoot you just before they collide with you, and the shooter gets away with it.
the idiots in 163 and 262 busting up good fights can still fly across a sector in 1 minute and screw up your fun even with killshooter on.
Having it on is totaly pointless, and similar to the nanny state gun laws in the UK.
Having it off does not limit anything we have now, but it does add many different elements for alot of gamers that are limited with it on.
Please turn it back, but dont announce it and see if the teen brigade even find out its back off ;)
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Originally posted by Stang
If HT changed it back, you'd have the same squeaky teens vulching and not checking 6's, then whining when people have to gang up on them to stop it.
Our only hope is Silat's anti-teen haxxor squelch coad.
Yup if the defenders of fair play would have just but out. By this I mean vets who squawked and posted films about vulching the griefers. The DA would be KS off. Sadly they couldn't mind there own business so everyone must be punished.
They remind me of the cranky old man down the street who stuck his nose in where it didn't belong.
Thank you DA cranks.
Bronk
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Say it isn’t so the DA is all messed up because a few people got cherry-picked and couldn’t handle it
Well join the club we have all had to deal with that. I for one give the person the benefit of the doubt the first time explain the rules and offer to help if needed
The second time I get a nikki with 50% fuel and 900 round of ammo and there is no third time if you know what I mean.
All I know is before the change the DA always had people in it
After the change haven’t seen one person in the DA
Kind of sad actually
Btw I intend to keep bumping this thread until all is right with the universe
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bump
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Switch it back, please.
JMFJ
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Originally posted by Juno
Say it isn’t so the DA is all messed up because a few people got cherry-picked and couldn’t handle it
Nop, the DA is like this because HT put it back the way it was supposed to be (not used). Problem is not fixed, it just became worse. Last night we had a retard in a 163 interupting our fights. This is not a fix. More of and insult and punishment to the guys that have been subscribing to this service for years in hopes that some guys in their 2 week free accounts would stay. Don't blame the people that asked for help. If we knew this was the kind of help we were going to get we would have never asked.
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I signed off HT since they changed DA to the present "kill shooter". I will sign back on if they change it back.If you take away part of what customers are paying for some will leave. It is the ultimate capitalistic weapon.
TK
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Originally posted by Sloehand
I think most of you know my vote, which is to give us back the old DA.
Now I've been on AH exactly one year, and the old DA was what I knew when I started and was part of what I was paying for at the time, though I had know way of knowing it was "unintended usage". Whether HT intended it or not, they provided it, they allowed it, and were perfectly willing to let me think it was part of the 'package' and let me pay for it.
Now they take it away in a very unfortunate manner and say it wasn't intended to be used that way as justification. People seem to be unhappy about this left and right, but they still don't seem to care. I find that very unsatisfying and believe they are now just being stubborn about changing it back.
All this means that for quite a number of their customers, they have significantly diminished the enjoyment of the game, and reduced the incentive to keep paying for it. Probably not to the point of mass exodus, which is the only thing I suspect that would make them care. Still, some people may get tired of the game sooner than they otherwise would because one enjoyable element of the game is no longer available. Seems like a very counter-productive business plan to me.
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See Rule #4
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this petition is not to target HTC or thier business.
please refrain from attacking the company when you state your opinions if you want them to listen.
(edit: man skuzzy, you're too damn fast)
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This one is done.