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Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: Docc on April 11, 2006, 09:28:48 PM
Will anyone please provide a link to a chart showing the ballistics used in AH2 for the various shells?

In particular, 37mm, .50 cal, .303 cal, 20mm, and 5".

Thanks in advance.
Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: Soulyss on April 11, 2006, 09:35:29 PM
Someone may surprise me, but as far as I know such a comprehensive chart does not exsist.  What are you looking for?  effective range?  drop over distance?  if you are a little more specific about what it is you're after more people may chime in with their opinions.
Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: Docc on April 11, 2006, 09:43:49 PM
Yes.......effective range, drop over distance, dispersion.
Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: flakbait on April 12, 2006, 06:58:06 AM
Drop and dispersion you can find out yourself by using the .target xxx command in game and firing on the target that appears. Range is an easy one...

.30 cal MG: 7-800 yards (been a while, can't remember exactly)
.50 cal, 20mm, 30mm: 1,500 yards
37/40mm: 3,200 yards
5" or bigger: 14,500+ yards

Max effective range is around 350 yards for .30 cal weapons. All the others still pack enough wallop at 1,500 to inflict some damage. 37mm or larger are lethal against both ground and aerial targets out to max range. 5" guns can plaster targets at 50 yards or 40,000 feet equally, since they inflict damage through a proximity-fuzed shell instead of physical impact.



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Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: Nemeth on May 05, 2006, 09:54:51 PM
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Originally posted by flakbait
37mm or larger are lethal against both ground and aerial targets out to max range.

I find that the 40mm on the hurr 2D are completly ineffective against AA, i usually have to shoot them bout 3-5 time with them
Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: Bronk on May 05, 2006, 11:06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Nemeth
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Originally posted by flakbait
37mm or larger are lethal against both ground and aerial targets out to max range.

I find that the 40mm on the hurr 2D are completly ineffective against AA, i usually have to shoot them bout 3-5 time with them [/B]


Thats because hurri 2d is ap not he. The shell does not explode.


Bronk
Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: Jester on May 05, 2006, 11:43:09 PM
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Originally posted by Nemeth

I find that the 40mm on the hurr 2D are completly ineffective against AA, i usually have to shoot them bout 3-5 time with them


The 40mm rounds on the HurriIID are AP (Armor Pierceing).
They are made to take on tanks and armored vehicles. They don't have an exploding charge - they use Kenetic Energy to pierce the armor and disable a target.

You actually hit a flak gun and it will drop it but as stated above - you actually HAVE TO HIT THE GUN - not just get close as with the HE rounds such as the 20mm's.

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Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: zorstorer on May 06, 2006, 07:45:22 AM
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Originally posted by Nemeth
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Originally posted by flakbait
37mm or larger are lethal against both ground and aerial targets out to max range.

I find that the 40mm on the hurr 2D are completly ineffective against AA, i usually have to shoot them bout 3-5 time with them [/B]


LOL a fist sized chunk of metal slamming into and most likely through a plane can and does cause alot of damage :)

I forget who did it but someone had a hurri 2d movie showing some great one shot air to air kills with it.
Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: hammer on May 06, 2006, 10:18:06 AM
Not the modelling, but the results for weapons at various ranges using various convergence settings:

20 mm Cannons (http://www.netaces.org/ahweapons/20mm.html#title)

~ .50 cal MGs (http://www.netaces.org/ahweapons/hvymg.html#title)
Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: Nemeth on May 06, 2006, 11:00:41 AM
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Originally posted by zorstorer
LOL a fist sized chunk of metal slamming into and most likely through a plane can and does cause alot of damage :)

I forget who did it but someone had a hurri 2d movie showing some great one shot air to air kills with it.



did anyone say the the 40mm weren't effective against planes??
no their not effective against ground targets, the 20mm can destroy a AA gun with 2-5 bullets yet a 40mm needs 6-10 bullets to destroy the same target, i dont know about you, but that isnt right
Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: Bronk on May 06, 2006, 11:07:39 AM
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Originally posted by Nemeth
did anyone say the the 40mm weren't effective against planes??
no their not effective against ground targets, the 20mm can destroy a AA gun with 2-5 bullets yet a 40mm needs 6-10 bullets to destroy the same target, i dont know about you, but that isnt right


Evidently you can not read,  you have to actually hit the gun.
40 mm do not explode, 20 mm do so you just have to be close.
Get it yet.
If you actually hit the gun with 40mm , 1 round will kill it.

Bronk
Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: zorstorer on May 06, 2006, 05:31:34 PM
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Originally posted by Nemeth
did anyone say the the 40mm weren't effective against planes??
no their not effective against ground targets, the 20mm can destroy a AA gun with 2-5 bullets yet a 40mm needs 6-10 bullets to destroy the same target, i dont know about you, but that isnt right



LOL my bad reading again ;)

Thought you meant Air to Air by AA, not Anti Aircraft :)
Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: Glasses on May 06, 2006, 10:37:03 PM
German 20mm drop is 2feet after leaving the barrel  and pepper the target with sawdust according to  AH . :D
Title: Shell ballistics request
Post by: Nemeth on May 07, 2006, 01:30:25 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
Evidently you can not read,  you have to actually hit the gun.
40 mm do not explode, 20 mm do so you just have to be close.
Get it yet.
If you actually hit the gun with 40mm , 1 round will kill it.
Bronk


AHHHH, thats y, thats good to kno

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Originally posted by Zorstorer

LOL my bad reading again
Thought you meant Air to Air by AA, not Anti Aircraft


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