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Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Toad on April 11, 2006, 10:29:21 PM
Lieberman Considers All Options - Won't Rule Out Running As An Independent (http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-ctlieberman0411.artapr11,0,7173624.story?coll=hc-headlines-politics-state)

Ok.. it comes down to

Hillary, McCain, Lieberman and whoever the Libertarians run.

Who appeals to you the most at this point?

I'd go Lieberman right now.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 11, 2006, 10:30:26 PM
yeah I would go Lieberman as well.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Stringer on April 11, 2006, 10:39:58 PM
Well, I was a McCain guy back on 2000....but I'd have to look into Lieberman.  Having said that, the article was talking about the US Senate race in CT, wasn't it?
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 11, 2006, 10:49:52 PM
Of course you would.

I don't see anything especially noble about sucking in Democratic campaign money running as a Democrat, only to abandon the Democratic party if you lose your party's primary.

But then again, that's what has always made Joe, Joe. He knows a thing or two about betrayal.

I hope Lamont kicks his bellybutton to the curb.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on April 11, 2006, 10:57:11 PM
Lieberman has his bright spots. But he's hawkish, relatively centrist, relatively moderate, and Jewish. He doesn't have a prayer as a Democrat. Nash can't stand him, that is enough to make me like him by itself.
Title: Re: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 11, 2006, 11:06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Toad
Ok.. it comes down to

Hillary, McCain, Lieberman and whoever the Libertarians run.

Who appeals to you the most at this point?


Is that what it comes down to, really?

As much as those on the right just love to say that Billary is the front runner, it's pure fiction. You need to expand your list a little. Warner, Clark, Feingold, Richardson, Gore.... and others I'd be so happy to see fix this madness.

Don't believe the hype. It aint gonna happen for Hillary, I'm afraid.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: lasersailor184 on April 11, 2006, 11:17:27 PM
I hope to god that the republican party can pull it's collective head out of it's bellybutton and NOT ELECT that ****ing RINO McCain as it's representative.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: SOB on April 11, 2006, 11:19:07 PM
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Originally posted by Nash
Of course you would.

I don't see anything especially noble about sucking in Democratic campaign money running as a Democrat, only to abandon the Democratic party if you lose your party's primary.

But then again, that's what has always made Joe, Joe. He knows a thing or two about betrayal.

I hope Lamont kicks his bellybutton to the curb.

If he thinks he can run this country better than the next guy, then why wouldn't he switch to independent if he couldn't get his party's nomination.  Shouldn't his loyalty be to the people of the United States first...well ahead of his loyalty to "the party"?
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 11, 2006, 11:26:43 PM
heh... it's one of those ironic things, I guess, but I totally agree with ya, laser. McCain is just as baldly two-faced.

I would HOPE that people are sick of this crap by now. Seeing a thread entitled "President Lieberman" made my skin crawl.

And, it's a moot thread anyways....

The Democratic Primary wraps up in Connecticut in something like August 8th. You have to file as an Independent there on the 9th. I might have the dates screwed up, but it's the day after.

So that means that if Liebermen intends to make good on his threat, he has to undertake this absurd spectacle of running for Democrats while at the very same time, collecting signatures for an Independent run.

I don't think so.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 11, 2006, 11:27:25 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
If he thinks he can run this country better than the next guy, then why wouldn't he switch to independent if he couldn't get his party's nomination.  Shouldn't his loyalty be to the people of the United States first...well ahead of his loyalty to "the party"?


Then he should do it now. And not accept a single dime from the Democratic party.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: lasersailor184 on April 11, 2006, 11:30:42 PM
Yeah, I was just about to post that Lieberman pisses off the hardcore liberals for the same reason that McCain pisses off the republicans who have a brain.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: J_A_B on April 11, 2006, 11:31:47 PM
If Lieberman runs as an independent, he might wind up splitting the Democrat vote and keeping the Republicans in for another 4 years.


Personally, I don't care which party the next guy is from, I just wish one of the two parties would nominate someone who isn't a corrupt lackey for a change (I know, snowball's chance in hell of that happening).


J_A_B
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 11, 2006, 11:37:32 PM
Are you in the mood to compare your list of corrupt Democratic "lackeys" against my list of corrupt Republican "lackeys?"

I honestly do laugh... whenever I see this "baby out with the bath water" stuff.

Or the latest fad: "Fuggit, I'm a Libertarian now."

To me, it's just Republicans too ashamed to admit that they've been hoodwinked.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Chairboy on April 11, 2006, 11:41:43 PM
Fuggit, I've been a Libertarian for years.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Hangtime on April 11, 2006, 11:45:10 PM
If republicans just voted on the issues instead of wearing brown shirts and toeing the party line I suspect I'd like republicans a heluva lot better than democrats.

And speaking of which... rumor mill has Bill Clinton running again for the Democrats... since The Beyatch is no more electable than a Jew.

Whatta world.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 11, 2006, 11:50:49 PM
Hang... I miss the Republicans of old. And by old, I'm only going as far back as Bush Sr.

Something wrong happened.

This Bill Clinton candidacy rumor is the very 1st I've heard about it. Where'd you hear that? If it had any basis in reality, I'm pretty sure I'd know.  I don't think you gotta worry about that. It's unconstitutional, for one. For two... well.... that's just out there, man.
Title: Re: Re: President Lieberman
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 11, 2006, 11:54:22 PM
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Originally posted by Nash
Is that what it comes down to, really?

As much as those on the right just love to say that Billary is the front runner, it's pure fiction. You need to expand your list a little. Warner, Clark, Feingold, Richardson, Gore.... and others I'd be so happy to see fix this madness.

Don't believe the hype. It aint gonna happen for Hillary, I'm afraid.


Unfortunately, if we go with your list.
Id say HELLary is the frontrunner.

Given my choice on the list.....
I wonder if Baroda is accepting defectors LMAO
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 11, 2006, 11:55:44 PM
LOLORZ!!... or something.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Elfie on April 12, 2006, 12:07:37 AM
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This Bill Clinton candidacy rumor is the very 1st I've heard about it.


If my memory is correct.

We will be spared from four more years of Bill "I didn't inhale" Clinton by law. The law is 2 terms, or a total of ten years. If President Ford had beaten out Jimmy Carter, he could have run one more time even though he served almost 2 years as president after Richard "I'm a Criminal" Nixon resigned.

So while it is possible to serve more than 8 yrs as President, you cant serve 2 full terms, then run for a 3rd.

I think Hang was kidding though. ;)
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: DiabloTX on April 12, 2006, 01:17:54 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
Seeing a thread entitled "President Lieberman" made my skin crawl.


But you still had to click on it and find out what's inside?

KEWLORZ!!!...or something.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 12, 2006, 01:59:48 AM
"But you still had to click on it and find out what's inside?"

Of course I did.

Something wrong with that?
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: DiabloTX on April 12, 2006, 02:02:33 AM
No.  Just curious as to why one would want to read a thread if the title by itself made your skin crawl.  It's like you like being uncomfortable for some reason.  Just curious really.


"Something wrong with that?"

Hell yeah, *shoves Nash* What ya gonna do about it??
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 12, 2006, 02:09:43 AM
So if you saw a thread called "Coahuila y Tejas Sucks," you wouldn't take a peek?

I'm not following your logic.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: DiabloTX on April 12, 2006, 02:11:18 AM
Probably not.  I don't speak Spanish.  There's no logic to follow, you're thinking wayyyyyyy to deeply here.  All I want to know is why would one click on a thread that "made your skin crawl"?  I don't follow that logic.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 12, 2006, 02:16:15 AM
I'm a sucker for this crap. What can I say? :)
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: DiabloTX on April 12, 2006, 02:18:14 AM
Yes you are! :aok
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Debonair on April 12, 2006, 03:19:25 AM
OJ has a better shot than lieberman.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Holden McGroin on April 12, 2006, 06:38:04 AM
I'll put my money on "None of the Above"

Nobody ever heard of Carter or Clinton this far in front of the election.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Toad on April 12, 2006, 07:33:43 AM
$15 bucks says Hillary gets the nomination Nash.

In or out?
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: NattyIced on April 12, 2006, 08:04:07 AM
The past four presidential elections have produced crap, this one shall result in utter complete ****.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: lazs2 on April 12, 2006, 08:37:53 AM
liberman is at heart a liberal socialist jew.   He would love to ban guns and socialize medicine and raise taxes.

lazs
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Mighty1 on April 12, 2006, 08:48:33 AM
I don't think Hillary or McCain will win their parties nomination.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: lazs2 on April 12, 2006, 08:54:43 AM
I hope you are correct.

lazs
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 12, 2006, 09:15:09 AM
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Originally posted by Toad
$15 bucks says Hillary gets the nomination Nash.

In or out?


Sounds good to me, Toad - I'm in! :)
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: J_A_B on April 12, 2006, 09:35:11 AM
"Are you in the mood to compare your list of corrupt Democratic "lackeys" against my list of corrupt Republican "lackeys?"


"My" list contains both Democrats and Republicans, as I consider them equally corrupt and basically cut from the same cloth.  Constantly being left with the "lesser of two evils" candidates is going to ruin this country sooner or later.  Some might say it already has.

I consider Reagan the worst president of modern times.  GWB is an obvious example of a corporate lackey and it's unfortunate the Dems couldn't come up with a REAL candidate in '04.  Hopefully they get their heads out of their collective behinds before '08 rolls around.


J_A_B
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: john9001 on April 12, 2006, 10:39:21 AM
Governor Milt Romney of Massachusetts will be the next president of USA.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: lasersailor184 on April 12, 2006, 10:56:27 AM
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liberman is at heart a liberal socialist jew. He would love to ban guns and socialize medicine and raise taxes.

lazs


I disagree.  While Lieberman may promote some social aspects of the Democrat party, he's a jew who has taken the holocaust to heart.  He believes in Israel and self defense.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Yeager on April 12, 2006, 11:20:54 AM
Milt Romney of Massachusetts will be the next president of USA.
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Whats his relationship to the kennedy clan?
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Debonair on April 12, 2006, 12:08:21 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
liberman is at heart a liberal socialist jew.   He would love to ban guns and socialize medicine and raise taxes.

lazs


I disagree.  His nose isn't very big.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: midnight Target on April 12, 2006, 01:14:53 PM
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Originally posted by Toad
$15 bucks says Hillary gets the nomination Nash.

In or out?


I think I'll just send the $15 to her campaign fund.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: cav58d on April 12, 2006, 02:36:09 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
Governor Milt Romney of Massachusetts will be the next president of USA.


Free health care for everyone!
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Sabre on April 12, 2006, 02:59:50 PM
I could be satisfied with Lieberman.  I have a great deal of respect for him.  I'd rather have him than Clinton or McCain.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Hangtime on April 12, 2006, 03:07:23 PM
we still got a coupla years to go...  maybe there won't be a 'next' president.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: T0J0 on April 12, 2006, 03:37:39 PM
When Condi wins in 08 what rude evil nicknames are you Librules going to label our first female commander in chief?
 
Hillary is not the right answer... yall can watch tv and pretend you did well in 08 though...

TJ
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Shuckins on April 12, 2006, 05:12:20 PM
If the Democrats cannot come up with a candidate who can bridge the ever-widening gap between their party and the voters in fly-over land they will lose...again.

Condi Rice as president...wouldn't THAT be a result coming totally out of left field...the first female president being not only black, but a Republican as well.

Personally, I think she has a much better chance than Hillary.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Toad on April 12, 2006, 05:25:28 PM
She's got "name recognition" that the rest of the candidates can't purchase for any amount of money.

She's got more campaign funds pouring in than she knows what to do with.

She has Bill up on the podium at her side.

She has the Clinton mystique or myth... however you choose.

I don't see how she can fail to get nominated.

Well.... ok, she could step on it but I think she's too smart to get caught with a female intern.  ;)

You're on Nash. $15 says Hillary gets the Democratic Party's nomination.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Eagler on April 12, 2006, 05:36:45 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I think I'll just send the $15 to her campaign fund.


the cash would better serve as toilet paper tomorrow morning
get all ones ... :)
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Holden McGroin on April 12, 2006, 07:53:25 PM
There have been far more governors, far more generals elected than senators.  Out of 43 presidents, only three were elected from the senate, while four of the last five have been governors.

I would bet on a governor.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 12, 2006, 08:04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
There have been far more governors, far more generals elected than senators.  Out of 43 presidents, only three were elected from the senate, while four of the last five have been governors.

I would bet on a governor.


Why is that?   Is it because people don't trust senators much?
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Nash on April 12, 2006, 08:17:06 PM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Why is that?   Is it because people don't trust senators much?


"I voted for it before I voted against it," is why.

Senators are constantly forced to compromise on an issue here, or an issue there, in order for government to function. This adds up to a pretty damning paper trail.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Sandman on April 12, 2006, 08:55:38 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
we still got a coupla years to go...  maybe there won't be a 'next' president.


Bingo. In 1990, how many of you had ever heard of Bill Clinton?
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: lazs2 on April 13, 2006, 09:15:05 AM
nash is actualy right about the fact that senators are just an empy suit and a haircut that will sell out their ideals in order to get their idea through and money to their voters.  

The whorishness of senators is so easy to see that even reality show watchers and canadians can see it.  and if they can't.... the opposition is more than willing to simplify it and soundbite it and put it on the commercials durring survivor or idol or whatever tripe joe sixpacks wife is making him watch this month.

lazs
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Elfie on April 13, 2006, 02:18:15 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Bingo. In 1990, how many of you had ever heard of Bill Clinton?



Who???
















:D
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Hangtime on April 13, 2006, 02:40:02 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Bingo. In 1990, how many of you had ever heard of Bill Clinton?


actually sandie... the second half of my statement was meant to catch YOUR eye.

...after all, the adminstration may yet decide that 'for the good of the country' it would best to scare the population into making their boss's job a lifetime appointment. Wouldn't put it past Klinton to manufacture Oklahoma City nor Bush to manufacture the dissapearance of a big blue city.
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Sandman on April 13, 2006, 02:42:36 PM
I'm dense. ;)
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Holden McGroin on April 13, 2006, 03:13:11 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
...after all, the adminstration may yet decide that 'for the good of the country' it would best to scare the population into making their boss's job a lifetime appointment. Wouldn't put it past Klinton to manufacture Oklahoma City nor Bush to manufacture the dissapearance of a big blue city.


Either Bush is a clueless idiot or a megalomaniacal mastermind...  I mean which is it?
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Sandman on April 13, 2006, 03:34:35 PM
How about a clueless idiot under the control of a megalomaniacal mastermind. ;)
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Hangtime on April 13, 2006, 04:32:25 PM
add 'corporate' in front of 'masterminds'.

Then we got it.  :aok
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Shuckins on April 13, 2006, 04:58:05 PM
Sandman...you talking about Pinky and The Brain?
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Holden McGroin on April 13, 2006, 05:13:24 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
How about a clueless idiot under the control of a megalomaniacal mastermind. ;)


So you maintain he is merely a marionette modestly mainpulated by a megalomaniacal mastermind...
Title: President Lieberman
Post by: Sandman on April 13, 2006, 05:14:36 PM
I'm not sure... it sounds good, but it gives Cheney far too much credit. ;)