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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: EN4CER on April 13, 2006, 08:34:40 AM
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Is this a sign of Liberal Desperation or Frustration or Both? First we have the nut job Geography Teacher from Colorado who everyone on the left side made excuses for after he gets caught lecturing his students on politics with a major league Anti-Bush twist – “His lecture (Nothing but an invective partisan political rant) was geared on world geography and how politics affects borders.” Etc etc. Nothing more than Liberal Spin! I really thought that teacher’s nation wide would have learned the lesson from this – Teach your topic and keep your political opinions in your pants – but shame on me, I forget liberals are arrogant too. Check out this genius from Alabama – and to boot a SCIENCE Teacher – so what does politics have to do with a High School Science Lecture? And to add salt to the wound – if you saw the video (Which was on Hannity and Colmes last night – Colmes agreed too that he should be fired) it was by far – pure liberal hatred for Bush and his administration with the world “%$#HOLE” on every other slide. Very professional- very. Just one more pinch of salt – This teacher is running for state legislature. Very interesting political campaign strategy – Lets brainwash the youth so they can vote for my party in the future since we can’t win elections now and have no message or solutions for our nation’s problems. Hope the school board has a big set of brass ones and cans this idiot. McDonald’s is hiring bud – get on line behind the illegal immigrants.
Source (http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060411/APN/604110770)
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So many grammatical errors and run on sentences.
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It's nothing new and I'd imagine it goes on from both sides (I don't really get much Pro Right up here though, as you could imagine). But, of course, I'm talking about college here.
I just hope people don't come off with the idea that all professors are like this. I've got a sociology teacher (of all things) who constantly plays devils' advocate for the right (most kids are left), and a geography professor who, though he constantly talks about politics (it's a political geography type class), I have no idea as to what his personal views are.
Then again, I also have a history professor who stumbles upon Bush every class in some way or form, but the guy's 80 years old or so and bordering on senility, so it's just amusing. Even so, history teachers need to be able to compare and contrast (hopefully, from a neutral view, but that's tough for humans in general).
In highschool the only real agenda I ever ran into was from a very sweet Jewish woman who found a way to incorporate the Holocaust into every required reading for English class. IMO, that's not a bad lesson, and the books are in English, so no problem there.
This guy though, if the allegations prove to be true, is way over the line.
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Originally posted by NattyIced
So many grammatical errors and run on sentences.
It’s a Bulletin Board Post (Usually a lot of cyber slang, cyber grammar etc). If I was submitting it to the New York Times it would be a lot different but then again they would never publish it based on the content of the story would they? Nice try to transfer/deflect the topic of the thread with a personal attack. :aok
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That wasn't a personal attack. I would have called you an extreme right nut job no better than the extreme left liberals you hate so much, if I was going to personally attack you.
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What funny is that Athens is only a little over an hour north of where I live and nothing has really been said about this apparently boneheaded jackprettythang teacher. If something other than what you have posted already comes up I will post it here.
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Originally posted by EN4CER
It�s a Bulletin Board Post (Usually a lot of cyber slang, cyber grammar etc). If I was submitting it to the New York Times it would be a lot different but then again they would never publish it based on the content of the story would they? Nice try to transfer/deflect the topic of the thread with a personal attack. :aok
Just another lame excuse from someone too lazy. This is not mealtime, not an IM. You have the time to make sure your writing is up to par. If you intend to bash one side or the other, at least take the time to look intelligent while doing so. I'm not concerned with the topic. I said my piece. I don't give credence to people with such crappy writing skills.
Your own argument is based purely on emotion, with no logical basis. The prior teacher was reinstated after it was learned he gave good time to both sides. This teacher showed a video using profanity.
While I agree politics needs to stay out of the high school classroom, your assessment sound more like Ann Coutier on the rag.
I suspect they would reject anything you wrote out of literary conscientiousness rather than any political stance.
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Originally posted by Cynic
Just another lame excuse from someone too lazy. This is not mealtime, not an IM. You have the time to make sure your writing is up to par. If you intend to bash one side or the other, at least take the time to look intelligent while doing so. I'm not concerned with the topic. I said my peace. I don't give credence to people with such crappy writing skills.
Your own argument is based purely on emotion, with no logical basis. The prior teacher was reinstated after it was learned he gave good time to both sides. This teacher showed a video using profanity.
While I agree politic needs to stay out of the high school classroom, your assessment sound more like Ann Coutier on the rag.
I suspect they would reject anything you wrote out of literary conscientiousness rather than any political stance.
Wouldn't it be "piece?" :D
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Originally posted by Cynic
Just another lame excuse from someone too lazy. This is not mealtime, not an IM. You have the time to make sure your writing is up to par. If you intend to bash one side or the other, at least take the time to look intelligent while doing so. I'm not concerned with the topic. I said my peace. I don't give credence to people with such crappy writing skills.
Ok Mr. Editor of the Los Angeles Times wannabe – I believe Shakespeare was quoted as stating “Brevity is the soul of wit." Nice shade account – How many posts have you made?
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Originally posted by EN4CER
It’s a Bulletin Board Post (Usually a lot of cyber slang, cyber grammar etc). If I was submitting it to the New York Times it would be a lot different but then again they would never publish it based on the content of the story would they? Nice try to transfer/deflect the topic of the thread with a personal attack. :aok
"If I were[/i] submitting it" is the proper form.
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I saw a better one.
Its not a racist slam at Secretary Rice. nooooo, not at all.
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The following sample math problem was given to students as part of their final exam at Bellevue Community College in Washington State.
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Condoleezza holds a watermelon just over the edge of the roof of the 300 -foot Federal Building, and tosses it up with a velocity of 20 feet per second. The height of the watermelon above the ground t seconds later is given by formula h= -16t2 + 20t + 300
a. How many seconds will it pass her (she's standing at a height of 300 feet) on the way down?
b. When will the watermelon hit ground?
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Originally posted by EN4CER
Ok Mr. Editor of the Los Angeles Times wannabe � I believe Shakespeare was quoted as stating �Brevity is the soul of wit." Nice shade account � How many posts have you made?
It's not a shades account. I used to play years ago under a different name, but left when the requirements became too much for my computer. I'm getting setup to buy a new computer, so I'm making myself known again.
What does the number of my posts have anything to do with this? It's quality, not quantity, that makes the wise man. Learn that.
And Plato said, "wise men speak because they have something to say, fools because they have to say something."
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Originally posted by Vudak
Wouldn't it be "piece?" :D
:eek:
Oops, the spell checker didn't flag that, because it only checks the spelling. I've made a few other errors too. I'm not perfect, but I work toward something better than IM speak or hormonal rant.
But in my defense, anything intended for a serious audience and publication goes before another pair of eyes.
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Originally posted by Cynic
Just another lame excuse from someone too lazy. This is not mealtime, not an IM. You have the time to make sure your writing is up to par. If you intend to bash one side or the other, at least take the time to look intelligent while doing so. I'm not concerned with the topic. I said my peace. I don't give credence to people with such crappy writing skills.
Your own argument is based purely on emotion, with no logical basis. The prior teacher was reinstated after it was learned he gave good time to both sides. This teacher showed a video using profanity.
While I agree politic needs to stay out of the high school classroom, your assessment sound more like Ann Coutier on the rag.
I suspect they would reject anything you wrote out of literary conscientiousness rather than any political stance.
You should make sure your own writing is up to par before you make that point to someone else.
Examples:
1. "I agree politic needs to" should be "I agree politics need to".
2. "your assessment sound more" should be "your assessment sounds more".
These are just two examples of "crappy" writing skills from your post. Based on your own criteria, does this mean you should not be given any credence?
When I read a post on the BBS, I try not to judge writing skills. I realize a lot of people make a quick post without checking it for technical writing accuracy.
Now to the topic at hand, fire the bastard!
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Originally posted by Cynic
While I agree politics needs to stay out of the high school classroom, your assessment sound more like Ann Coutier on the rag.
I like Laura Ingraham – Ann Coulter is a little too far right for me. It's Coulter by the way, not Coutier. At least my facts are correct. So my grammar may not be to your liking and I definitely won't be changing it for you. I double majored in Accounting and Computer Science and found English Literature, Communications, and Intro to Writing to be quite BORING. On second thought maybe I'll take up Spanish. At the rate the latinos are invading our country it should be our national language in about 25 years. I’ll be looking forward to the debate and the exchange provided I have the time.
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Originally posted by Krusher
I saw a better one.
Its not a racist slam at Secretary Rice. nooooo, not at all.
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The following sample math problem was given to students as part of their final exam at Bellevue Community College in Washington State.
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Condoleezza holds a watermelon just over the edge of the roof of the 300 -foot Federal Building, and tosses it up with a velocity of 20 feet per second. The height of the watermelon above the ground t seconds later is given by formula h= -16t2 + 20t + 300
a. How many seconds will it pass her (she's standing at a height of 300 feet) on the way down?
b. When will the watermelon hit ground?
Since it's considering the height 300 to be "ground zero," we need to figure when h = 300 for the first problem.
300 = -16t^2 + 20t + 300 NOTE the caret. You forgot to include that.
It's 300 at t = 0 (the start)
Using the commutative law:
0 = -16t^2 + 20t
16t^2 = 20t
16t^2/t = 20
16t = 20
t = 20/16
t = 5/4
Plugging it back in to the original equation:
h = -16(5/4)^2 + 20(5/4) + 300
h = -16(25/16) + 100/4 + 300
h = -25 + 25 + 300
h = 300
So 5/4ths of a second after she tosses it it will pass her.
The time it takes to hit the ground is the summation of the time it takes to go up, and come down.
I might work on this later.
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Originally posted by BigGun
You should make sure your own writing is up to par before you make that point to someone else.
Examples:
1. "I agree politic needs to" should be "I agree politics need to".
2. "your assessment sound more" should be "your assessment sounds more".
As I said, I'm not perfect but I try. When I reread, it gets better and you would see that I did correct 'politic' to "politics" without you pointing it out, though I still missed 'sound.'
I correct people whose rhetoric comes across as asinine. I'm neither conservative nor liberal. I'm a nihilist and an atheist, a cynic and a skeptic. When people make a political speech like EN4CER and write it like a high school dropout, I have every right to make a correction. I normally don't give a damn, but political and religious fanatics make me angry, because there's nothing more dangerous.
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Originally posted by Cynic
:eek:
Oops, the spell checker didn't flag that, because it only checks the spelling. I've made a few other errors too. I'm not perfect, but I work toward something better than IM speak or hormonal rant.
But in my defense, anything intended for a serious audience and publication goes before another pair of eyes.
Ah I'm just bustin' yer chops :D
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Originally posted by EN4CER
I like Laura Ingraham � Ann Coulter is a little too far right for me. It's Coulter by the way, not Coutier.
I am so unconcerned.
At least my facts are correct. So my grammar may not be to your liking and I definitely won't be changing it for you.
No, your facts are skewed. The first teacher was found innocent because the kid that taped it took a small portion in isolation of the whole. Typical of people with political and religious agendas.
When the whole was examined, they found the teacher did give time to both camps.
I double majored in Accounting and Computer Science and found English Literature, Communications, and Intro to Writing to be quite BORING.
I originally took CompSci, but once I got into the field, I found it quite boring as I would accounting. Each is it's own discipline, however, writing and communication is so pervasive in our world, to neglect it is to short change yourself. I work in IT and I see so much ignorance with regard to good communication skills, it's not even funny.
BTW, my current degrees are English/creative writing and philosophy. I decided to take up the classics because the technical is BORING.
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Originally posted by Vudak
Ah I'm just bustin' yer chops :D
Yeah, sry. Getting a little overheated.
I think I remember you from -- sheesh, what was it? -- 3-4 years ago? When did HiTech rollout the new version?
I flew under a different name then, but I won't bring that up. That persona is dead.
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Now to complete this thread hijack.
I have a real problem with some peoples superior attitudes. They like to pick at grammatical and spelling errors as unintelligent. I could most likely take a small block Chevy engine apart and put it back together, just glancing at torque specs. Does this make me more intelligent than an English teacher that can't change a flat tire?
Bronk
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Only if you sing the praises of Ford while driving a Kia.
EDIT -- Make that, it's makes you a hypocrite only if you sing the praises of Ford while driving a Kia.
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Originally posted by Cynic
Only if you sing the praises of Ford while driving a Kia.
:rofl :rofl
Ok had you pegged as a pompous A**. Seeing this reply has changed that .
Welcome back to AH .
Bronk
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What was the topic again? Oh yeah, dumb liberal teacher can't separate work from politics, and lack of excuses by lefties on this board forces them into attacking the poster...
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Originally posted by Bronk
:rofl :rofl
Ok had you pegged as a pompus A**. Seeing this reply has changed that .
Welcom back to AH .
Bronk
I'm really not a pompus a**. I just can't stand it when someone tries to promote one side as more intelligent or better than the other using HS dropout writing skills.
It reeks of Pat Roberts and Osama Bin Laden egotism.
As I said, I'm a nihilist and an atheist, a cynic and a skeptic. I keep my opinion fair and balanced by labeling all participants as putz's, myself included.
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All of us who can't spell correctly were victims of teachers with agendas, and we were left behind.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
What was the topic again? Oh yeah, dumb liberal teacher can't separate work from politics, and lack of excuses by lefties on this board forces them into attacking the poster...
Ah Rip! Another face from the past. I shall shoot you down.
The teacher in the article should lose his job, for the reasons cited and more, but it's EN4CER's presentation that made me shake to the core. A well written argument is everything in the field of rhetoric.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
All of us who can't spell correctly were victims of teachers with agendas, and we were left behind.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Cynic
Yeah, sry. Getting a little overheated.
I think I remember you from -- sheesh, what was it? -- 3-4 years ago? When did HiTech rollout the new version?
I flew under a different name then, but I won't bring that up. That persona is dead.
Well, I started AH with about a week or two left in, AH1's life. So if it was 3-4 years ago, probably not.
Then again, I flew with this handle in AW on occassion, so who knows.
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Originally posted by Cynic
BTW, my current degrees are English/creative writing and philosophy. I decided to take up the classics because the technical is BORING.
Who would have guessed. By the way how is the air up there? :D
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Originally posted by EN4CER
Who would have guessed. By the way how is the air up there? :D
The air is good. How's it down there?
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Originally posted by Cynic
A well written argument is everything in the field of rhetoric.
Horse****.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Horse****.
Short... but well written.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Horse****.
“Brevity is the soul of wit."
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Interesting note that the guy teaches 8th GRADE[/I] science.....this was not shown in High School or College, it was an 8th grade science class. I guess you're never too young to be involved in politics.
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Originally posted by Fury
Interesting note that the guy teaches 8th GRADE[/I] science.....this was not shown in High School or College, it was an 8th grade science class. I guess you're never too young to be involved in politics.
Well that's something.
Now go away with your "on-topic" posts. They ceased in this thread long ago :D
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Originally posted by EN4CER
mindless rant
It's not your sentence structure that makes you look stupid. It's the sad fact that you are a ranting right-leaning whack job who is every bit as delusional as the ranting left-leaning whack jobs and you don't even know it.
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Originally posted by SOB
It's not your sentence structure that makes you look stupid. It's the sad fact that you are a ranting right-leaning whack job who is every bit as delusional as the ranting left-leaning whack jobs and you don't even know it.
Thank you SOB. Short and to the point. I should have said that instead.
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Originally posted by Fury
Interesting note that the guy teaches 8th GRADE[/I] science.....this was not shown in High School or College, it was an 8th grade science class. I guess you're never too young to be involved in politics.
That's the sad part. In college I can understand, high school is pushing it and middle school is definately out.
I don't want my tax dollars used to swing a generation left or right. Just teach them to read, write and do the frickin' math. If they can do the basics, they can learn the rest on their time and money.
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Originally posted by Cynic
but it's EN4CER's presentation that made me shake to the core.
If so, it appears your core is rather easy to shake.
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Originally posted by Toad
If so, it appears your core is rather easy to shake.
Perhaps, or perhaps I'm giving too much credence to him in the first place. His argument was pretty sad and more personal opinion. The only fact he cited was a teacher being fired for showing the class an anti-Bush film with vulgarity, yet he tries to tie it to a liberal agenda, thus showing his own right wing agenda. If he bashed both sides, I wouldn't have said anything.
People eat up the administration-of-the-day's propoganda like it's a mannah from heaven.
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Originally posted by Cynic
People eat up the administration-of-the-day's propoganda like it's a mannah from heaven.
That's quite a leap, isn't it?
I haven't see or heard a single thing from the current administration on this issue. Is there some offcial White House spin on the story that I have missed?
Or are you just being the other side of En4cer's coin?
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Originally posted by Toad
That's quite a leap, isn't it?
I haven't see or heard a single thing from the current administration on this issue. Is there some offcial White House spin on the story that I have missed?
Or are you just being the other side of En4cer's coin?
It's a generalization. Conservatives will believe what the conservative administration says, ignoring all logic, and the same for the liberal camp.
I doubt the White House will get involved. With Bush's approval rating at such a low, that could damage conservative appeal so bad, it risks spreading across the whole camp. They'll play it safe and let the local authority handle it, as it should always.
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Originally posted by SOB
It's not your sentence structure that makes you look stupid. It's the sad fact that you are a ranting right-leaning whack job who is every bit as delusional as the ranting left-leaning whack jobs and you don't even know it.
(http://www.lowculture.com/archives/images/001ali_liston.jpg)
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Originally posted by Cynic
It's a generalization.
A generalization? Like this one?
Originally posted by Cynic
People eat up the administration-of-the-day's propoganda like it's a mannah from heaven.
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vouchers are the only way.
and cynic... you don't "try" you simply use a word program that checks for spelling... they don't know if you know the diference between "peace" or "piece" just like you don't know the difference.
if you are not a shades account then simply tell us your old handle.
Did you get as beat up then as now?
lazs
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Originally posted by Cynic
Perhaps, or perhaps I'm giving too much credence to him in the first place.
Wait, I thought you didn't give him any credence given crappy writing skills. Which is it, no credence or to much credence?
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Originally posted by Cynic
It's a generalization. Conservatives will believe what the conservative administration says, ignoring all logic, and the same for the liberal camp.
Wrong. Many conservatives including myself are fed up with the Bush Administration and the Republican Party (They miraculously grow a set of balls at election time and then mysteriously lose them afterwards). Same can be said for the Democrats as Zel Miller states in his latest Book "A deficit of Decency." When Lieberman retires I’d be curious to hear his comments on how screwed up his party is. What aggravates me more are the tactics used primarily by the left side. An example of this would be teachers lecturing to students in the form of partisan rants. Or how about the Main Stream Media ignoring issues like this one or any good news that involves a conservative point of view. The list goes on and I’ll stop here because unlike some I don’t have all day spend in the O’Club or other Bulletin Boards.
Call my post what ever you want Cynic and company. News flash, I could care less. Of the hundred or so people who surf this forum I post for my allies who I know are far and few here. SOME of you who call yourselves Independents should take a good look in the mirror. SOME of the so called independents here are nothing more than closet liberals. Interesting how some conservative points of view piss off some independents (They’re not centered too well, probably leaning a little to bit to the left at the time).
Back to the Post and Topic. Here are the facts as I see it.
1. The teacher here is partisan in his politics and anti-Bush. His slide presentation clearly proves this. Judging by some of the other content in the tape it’s safe to say he’s a Liberal.
2. He is obviously frustrated by the fact that his party is not in charge of the country. Isn’t there a vaccination for PEST by now?
3. To show this presentation to political science class in college is pushing it due it’s content but to show it to an 8th grade science class is once again frustration. I’ll cut a long argument short here but I believe his objective might be along the lines of “Let’s get them started while their young.”
4. The fact that he is running for state legislator and does this is shear sign of lunacy in my humble opinion. Doesn’t say much for his credibility or integrity factor, does it?
5. Jay Bennish (The teacher from Colorado) simply lucked out. His actions were easily concealed under the deception that his class was a “World Geography Class” and he used his ramblings to invoke debate. I really enjoyed the front loaded softball questions that Matt Lauer threw at him on the Today Show.
6. Most Important! Both teachers were wrong. Bennish got a slap on the wrist which is fine with me. The teacher from Alabama should be fired.
I would never have attacked your grammar Cynic. I look for content and facts to debate. It is true that presentation can be deceiving. You know where I stand now as do others here. Now if you don’t mind, today is my day off and I hope there is a good Tank Town map up so I can go have some FUN.
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Crap
I was hoping this was another hot teacher banging some 14 year old kid thread
ok back to pron
:)
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