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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: slimpikn on April 14, 2006, 01:08:58 PM
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Well for those of you interested, I am the first to my knowledge to get AHII running on an Intel iMac. I assume it will run on the Intel Macbook Pro's as well. And boy does it run!
The frame rates I am getting in comparison to my Alienware are insane. With animated water turned on at full graphics detail I am getting over 80 frames per second. You can actually dogfight over the ocean with animated water! Whoa!
Bear in mind one thing. You MUST disable one of the cores, and to do that you need to run a command line utility called IMAGECFG.EXE. This is the only way I know of to change the processor affinity and have it stick. You can find a download for this utility in a google search, as well as instructions on how to run it.
Put the utility in your system32 folder of you Windows system. Then from a command line type:
imagecfg -u 0x1
Obviously the path to aceshigh.exe should be in quotes without the angle brackets. Quotes because the path to aceshigh.exe is probably in some folder with a space in it. This is DOS after all.
This will restrict Aces High to a single processor. I would do this BEFORE you EVER LAUNCH Aces High. I had to reinstall several times because I think running the program without first setting the affinity may corrupt the file or some settings file it uses. Not sure on that point.
I do not think you will be dissapointed.
Slimpikn out.
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Thanks for the info, Slimpikn.
You had no problems with USB (joystick) or sounds?
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Originally posted by Rolex
Thanks for the info, Slimpikn.
You had no problems with USB (joystick) or sounds?
No the joystick and sounds all seem fine. I did have some wierdness with the headset because the built in speakers and mic seem to work whether or not the headset is plugged in or not. You need to plug in the headset, then go to the sound control panel and fiddle with things.
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Yeah, the isight camera with built-in mic are tied to ichat and OSX. Is there another mic input, or did you use a usb headphone/mic combination? Were you able to get vox working?
Thanks again for any answers!
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Originally posted by Rolex
Yeah, the isight camera with built-in mic are tied to ichat and OSX. Is there another mic input, or did you use a usb headphone/mic combination? Were you able to get vox working?
Thanks again for any answers!
Yes the vox works, but I did not get the mic working on the headset. Instead, it seemed that BOTH the internal speakers AND the headset were producing sound. The mic that I was using was the built-in because I unplugged the mic on the headset and still broadcast my voice.
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what intel mac do you have (model and cpu spd)and what video card?
Thanks
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
what intel mac do you have (model and cpu spd)and what video card?
Thanks
I have the Intel iMac 20" which has a built in ATI Radeon Mobility 1600x. But I am pretty sure the 15" Macbook Pro's will work too. There is also the Intel Mac Mini, but that is single core, and I don't think the built-in graphics are all that hot. Not really sure.
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A buddy of mine has been flying since 1987 but has been away from the game for a couple of months. He, too, has the imac 20inch. I told him you were running the game on it so he decided to download it. He got the game up and running but has had what appears to be video issues with it.
What's happening is when he goes into the hanger and clicks on convergence, for instance or clicks on the E6B the little pop up window begins to load then either just rotating at a high rate of speed or rotates until the window is upside odwn and out of view.
What video drivers are you using on the ATI card?
Thanks
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Ain't gonna help ya Ren.
member" the time me and U in the TA, me in a F4u you in a Tiffy?
You said "every shot was a canopy shot"...the only problem was... I fimed it. You Sir, were dead in the first 15 Seconds of the fight. Low lethality in the TA is a good thing, but don't discount the VET who is in to practice (or help the newbies), because you are a "TRAINER".
In short Sir, you are not as good as you think you are (although, you are a remarkable training pilot to the new addictions, and for that I Salute you),
but should I meet you in the MA ( or dare I say it....DA), the outcome is inevitable.
Cheers...no Flames...Just Kahonies.
RTR
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Originally posted by RTR
Ain't gonna help ya Ren.
member" the time me and U in the TA, me in a F4u you in a Tiffy?
You said "every shot was a canopy shot"...the only problem was... I fimed it. You Sir, were dead in the first 15 Seconds of the fight. Low lethality in the TA is a good thing, but don't discount the VET who is in to practice (or help the newbies), because you are a "TRAINER".
In short Sir, you are not as good as you think you are (although, you are a remarkable training pilot to the new addictions, and for that I Salute you),
but should I meet you in the MA ( or dare I say it....DA), the outcome is inevitable.
Cheers...no Flames...Just Kahonies.
RTR
LOL! The question is to ask slimpikn what video drivers he used in his new imac. This for a friend of mine. However, as soon as I get a new video card in my computer I'd be happy to meet you in the DA. You can show me whacha got!
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
A buddy of mine has been flying since 1987 but has been away from the game for a couple of months. He, too, has the imac 20inch. I told him you were running the game on it so he decided to download it. He got the game up and running but has had what appears to be video issues with it.
What's happening is when he goes into the hanger and clicks on convergence, for instance or clicks on the E6B the little pop up window begins to load then either just rotating at a high rate of speed or rotates until the window is upside odwn and out of view.
What video drivers are you using on the ATI card?
Thanks
Hi Ren. Well the built in video card is the ATI Mobility x1600. The driver for it is the one Apple creates on the driver CD that Bootcamp makes for you prior to re-partitioning the drive. I don't know of any other drivers, and would not recommend using any other drivers.
Your friend is having the same problem I had and it is because he needs to disable one of the cores. I thought I posted the procedure for that. There is a command line utility you have to download called imagecfg.exe. If you google for it you will find instructions on how to download, install and use it. The rotating clipboard is 100% proof positive your friend has not done this.
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Yep he told me last night he has the X1600, also. So it's the dual cores that's causing issues.
I'll let him know when I see him at work tonight.
Thanks again!
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Alright! It works for him! With Vertical Sync turned on he gets the 60FR as per the refresh rate of the monitor. It stays parked right at 60FR and not even a flicker!
Last question...are you also using a separate headset and does the imac have any problems with it?
I thought there might be issues with the pc ports are working. He should be back up flying by the weekend!
Thanks again for your help.
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Just a little rumour for you intelmac guys... look for a not to far away update from apple to allow you to run windows apps from within OS X.
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Thanks, it's already out. You can fire up xp from within in OSX and it starts in about seconds. Then no loss in speed. Not bad.....
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
Thanks, it's already out. You can fire up xp from within in OSX and it starts in about seconds. Then no loss in speed. Not bad.....
It is? Link please? I thought it was only a bootable option at the moment? Or virtual PC which is not quite the same.
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Tried to call my buddy who's using the new pc program and its not vitual pc. No answer. I'll try gain tomorrow and give you the link as soon as I can. I tried Virtual PC a few times and that was pretty bad. My old macs never ran it at any speed.
Im still running old OS X on my three macs which aren't intel. I let my guru mac buddy sort out the bugs before I decide to change....:)
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Here ya go. It's free in beta right now so it's free.
http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/mac/
Get it working and see how AH2 flies :)
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
Here ya go. It's free in beta right now so it's free.
http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/mac/
Get it working and see how AH2 flies :)
Nope, that does not allow you to run windows apps from within OS X. That allows you to run another OS. Different beasts. Think AH shortcut on your OS X desktop.
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Or you can get Bootcamp directly from apple here
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
As the man said, running Windows XP on a Mac is not the same as running Windows apps on a Mac.
However, one of the e-chronicles I signed up for is running a hypothetical article debating the pros and cons of Apple releasing a standalone version of OS X 10 that will run on something other than a Mac. Now that Tiger is already out and Leopard is well on the way, it wouldnt be that great a leap to go from Intel based Macs to PCs running OS X. Now THAT might give Vista some real competition. :)
I know its not in the "most likely" category, but ............
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Now THAT might give Vista some real competition. :)
Nah, OS X still blows for enterprise deployments, VPN support sucks, oh and I just discovered that Safari is non-RFC compliant with the way it does some TCP stuff :mad: (think many hours trying to figure out oddities from complaining mac users on a network only to find its their stupid browser).
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So PC software runs better on a MAC with half its CPU disabled.
I wonder if this is the same for a lot of games out there....
I will upgrade to a MAC next time I replace my PC if it is
Bill will be pissed
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Why would bill be upset? At this point you still have to buy a full version of Windows to run their apps. Bill still makes his money either way. The people who make PCs would be upset. The market for new PCs is already dropping, hence Dell making its move away from exclusively selling Intel products in hopes of boosting sales. HP/Compaq is hurting too (mostly from the crap they pass off as a computer coming back to bite them). Having Macs that can run Windows and any/all of its apps as fast as Mac apps will just about kill PCs. If Apple can get its prices down to a reasonable level, and if they'll open up to selling piecemeal like PCs did (for all of those of us who would build our own), they could dominate the computer market without having to ever worry about the software market. Just running Windows will take care of that for them.
The problem is, a Mac running Windows is just as buggy, just as vulnerable to viruses as any PC. It's still a Macroshaft OS and you are still limited in software that runs natively on the Apple. For now.
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So it ran AH with high FPS. Lots of high-end, newer, systems do. Hell I get 75+fps in a P4 2.66GHz (single core) on an old Ge4400 128MB.
The fact that it works is great, but that's no smoother than other Intel machines.
I would LOVE some sort of hybrid MAC/Windows OS, as I can't justify owning a MAC just for video editing, and I can't rely on a personal computer that won't run any of the stuff I need to get by (in other words, I can't rely on a MAC), so some sort of system where I can run Final Cut Pro *AND* MS Office *AND* Win-based games, I'd LOVE to have!
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Originally posted by RTR
Ain't gonna help ya Ren.
member" the time me and U in the TA, me in a F4u you in a Tiffy?
You said "every shot was a canopy shot"...the only problem was... I fimed it. You Sir, were dead in the first 15 Seconds of the fight. Low lethality in the TA is a good thing, but don't discount the VET who is in to practice (or help the newbies), because you are a "TRAINER".
In short Sir, you are not as good as you think you are (although, you are a remarkable training pilot to the new addictions, and for that I Salute you),
but should I meet you in the MA ( or dare I say it....DA), the outcome is inevitable.
Cheers...no Flames...Just Kahonies.
RTR
I dont think anyone is interested RTR. This is the tech forum...go take your one man pissing contest somewhere else.